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Interview with a former Bethelite who now knows TTATT

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JWStruggle

JWStruggle

10 жыл бұрын

Trever was raised in the truth and was made a Ministerial Servant at 17, was a pioneer and served for a few years at headquarters in Brooklyn New York and he shares some of his experiences. Over and over there were things that alerted he and his wife that something was terribly wrong with the organization; the way people behaved and treated each other and his family was not in line with Jesus' words.
He and his family have faded and are now being shunned and his parents and siblings will have nothing to do with him and even shun his small children. The Watchtower mindset and culture is so ingrained that his family have stiffened their position on rejecting and ostracizing him and and their grandchildren.
Trever shared some interesting perspectives on things that I had not before considered and I want to thank him for his courage to share this and use his real name for this video. He wants all JWStrugglers to know that anyone is free to contact him at: treverbargas1@juno.com
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@rapturews
@rapturews 10 жыл бұрын
I am an atheist, and I have never had any ties with JW. I am not even sure how I stumbled upon your videos to be honest. I just wanted to say that I am so thankful that you had the courage and the strength to do everything you have done these past few years. I have watched some of your videos and I read a large portion of the transcript from your disfellowship trial. What you have endured is enough to make most people break, but you continue to be strong. Even as an atheist, I believe 100% that everyone should have the right to worship God and love other people in their own, personal way. Through some research and your videos, I can see that Watchtower strips people of that freedom, and basically controls their members through fear. My heart goes out to you as well of the thousands of others that have had to live with so much fear and confusion. I just wanted you to know that you are such an inspiration to me and many others as well I am sure. I agree with what you wrote in the trial transcripts, that if you can help even ONE person become free from the fear instilled by this organization, then all of this work will be well worth it. Once again, EVERYONE has the right to love God and love others in their own way. I wish you nothing but the best in your future!
@soyboy72
@soyboy72 10 жыл бұрын
As a nurse at brooklyn bethel, now I'm a former bethelite, I can count many people put in the safe room for suicidal tendencies. Or who actually did it, very sad to see this firsthand.
@lindalawton5399
@lindalawton5399 7 жыл бұрын
Horrible; did any of these stories ever make the NY newspapers, I often wondered?
@pauletteforman
@pauletteforman 6 жыл бұрын
Linda Lawton Talk about newspapers and reporting incidences, allow me to tell you what pissed me off about the double standard in the org, especially toward women: My oldest sister [then 25 y.o.] and I [just 16 y.o.] were on our way to spend the night at her new home one summer Saturday evening in 1981 when we were suddenly accosted at gunpoint, pistol whipped, and raped by two assailants. The incident devastated both of us. A very kind elder accompanied us and our Mother to the hospital along with the police. The elder stayed with us at the hospital from 10:45 PM to 4 AM despite having to go to work that morning! The next day, that same elder visited us with the Presiding Overseer who barked at me for going with my sister ....😔. She asked me to go with her to help her decorate her new place. Neither of us foresaw what was about to happen. He essentially blamed me for being raped! No comfort, not crag in the storm. None of that elder supportive stuff. I knew Jesus would have NEVER talked down to me like that. The next week at the meeting, the secretary elder approached us and said the entire congregation knew what happened to us because they read it in a local newspaper. When we challenged the elder to tell us which newspaper the story was in, he said he didn't know which one. My sister and I asked the detectives working on our case if it was in the papers. The detectives adamantly said it was not because that would be violating victim's rights. They also wanted to know which newspaper the story was in but none of the elders could tell them either. Somebody was lying. Well, a week later the elders decided to give a local needs talk about "Dinah". This really cut me to the core of my soul! I knew that talk targeted us and it was misapplied. My sister and I were going HOME - to her new place. WE were NOT cavorting with the "daughters of the land" like Dinah was in the habit of doing! Yet, the elders found it appropriate to discuss that awful story knowing what happened to us as if we did something wrong. As if we ASKED for that to happen! For 10 long excruciating minutes the brother kept digging in on the fact that Dinah was raped for not obeying her father Jacob and blah, blah blah. I felt like we were being raped all over again! They didn't give a damn that he was misapplying the scripture. But all along I kept feeling that there was a cover up. That some of the married elders went blabbing their mouths off to their nosy elderette wives and THAT is how the story really got out. No confidentiality at all! That was also the day I started to question things and that was the day I lost who I was. I lost myself. I mean for years I was a psychological MESS! Being stared at and labeled as not good enough for marriage by the false prophetesses and uppity elders wives. I had goals of pioneering and Bethel service since I was a kid! I got baptized at 15 and was really looking forward to a spiritual career. After that tragic event, however, I wasn't the same "Abigail" or Shunamite they older sisters used to call me. I was now tainted. Used. No damn good. It wasn't until I got disfellowshipped 2x when I finally sort therapy to save myself because I was surely going to kill myself on several occasions. After hearing that you're no good long enough, you start to believe it. I nearly lost my mind and the Witnesses sat back and watched, hoping I'd prove those judgmental Pharisees right. Lo! And behold! 30 yrs later, F.O.I.A [FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT] enabled me to gain access to the archives of every newspaper in NYC to see if there was an article about the robbery and rape incident. I was also able to retrieve the police report and the court documents as part of my therapy and healing. Guess what? NONE OF THE NEWSPAPERS HAD EVEN MENTIONED THE STORY! NOT ONE NEWSPAPER and believe me I hunted and scoured every one of them. So now I knew who lied. I shared this with you to say this.....the way rape victims are treated in the org is horrendous! Their callous actions and twisting scriptures to suit their purpose is a common maelstrom that stigmatize and ruins lives. What kept me going is Jesus' loving example, my beautiful grown son, and that one loving elder who sat with us in the hospital all those hours. He is no longer a Witness since 1995. Yes, they pick and choose what needs to be printed and broadcast to the congregations, and keep tragic events at Bethel hush hush. And they pick and choose who to drive nails into when they want to project authority on the lowly. But Jehovah sees EVERYTHING and knows EVERYTHING. And later down the road, some of those same elders had to be either removed or disciplined for some infraction or false step. There is A GOD. This I know.
@jivinjuju
@jivinjuju 9 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that you got yourself and your family out of that cult. Just pray that your other family wakes up too some day. Leaving was the best decision you could have made for your family.
@jeantucker4540
@jeantucker4540 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing but a money making cult
@danh.8261
@danh.8261 8 жыл бұрын
I liked his application of the scripture about having no natural affection. I had never considered it that way, but it is a perfect example of why the shunning policy is destroying the natural affection among family members.
@martinsanchez8909
@martinsanchez8909 6 жыл бұрын
I never was a JW and never will be, but my heart goes out to those that want to exit this movement, I'M BAFFLED over the corruption within this movement from the top all the way to the new convert, I'm praying for all the escapees
@SanuraMoore
@SanuraMoore 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story! Each one helps us all so much!!
@brocktalon
@brocktalon 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview. Trevor hit it right on the head and his story matches my experiences exactly in that Bethel and the JW organization in general systemically promote a lack of love and natural affection, pettiness and nepotism. So sad and so true. Hang in there my friend, you have many who are pulling for you and your family. We love you even if your own parents should not.
@tonyprime5029
@tonyprime5029 10 жыл бұрын
Wow this was amazing! Thanks for posting!
@g-manc.1899
@g-manc.1899 5 жыл бұрын
Awsome interview, you have some of the best interviews out there. Hope you're doing well, thankyou.
@eliminator1152
@eliminator1152 10 жыл бұрын
I wanted to be a missionary. So glad I didn't. I would be stuck in a foreign country without anyone to help me get home.
@courtneywaldon4609
@courtneywaldon4609 10 жыл бұрын
I remember wanting to go to Bethel. So glad I did not, I would not have been to deal with all the constant control and nitpicking. Thank you for sharing your story Trevor! #ttatt
@lamardavis7074
@lamardavis7074 10 жыл бұрын
And to think my mother used to tell me that only the most holy folks can make it to Bethel
@eastbaysf
@eastbaysf 8 жыл бұрын
I had a sister shun me because she heard me say shit!.. its true..She had snuck up behind me while I was walking alone in a park .. I almost fainted and yelled "shit".. the look on her face was horrific.. she reported me to the elders!! Seriously.
@MegaFlash2001
@MegaFlash2001 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to call the number at the end. It’s a sales call really encouraging help
@jamesmercer6042
@jamesmercer6042 9 жыл бұрын
My mother became a Jehovah's Witness when I was ten I have plenty of stories I can tell but the one that hurts me the most is I asked my mom can she really tell me that my wife and kids her grandkids and myself her son are gonna b killed at Armageddon because I'm not a Jehovah's Witness yet I don't lie I don't steal my only real sin is that I don't believe in what Jehovah's witnesses preach what kind of God would kill kids because there parents do not believe why give us free will just to take it away thru fear
@timspangler8440
@timspangler8440 9 жыл бұрын
James, you are correct....God is NOT that way. In fact, he is so good and loves you so much that he gave his only begotten son to die for your sins. Please James...put your faith in Jesus.
@Lucy2086
@Lucy2086 9 жыл бұрын
I feel for your pain...please youtube Bill Donahue on the real truth of the bible...the beautiful truths of the scripture is not what RELIGION is teaching...they have twisted it to support mind control - as in Government (to govern the mind - CONTROL) When you see what he has uncovered you will be shocked at knowing that truth starts with YOU...Peace!
@sunshineleonwilliams9902
@sunshineleonwilliams9902 10 жыл бұрын
At about fifteen years of age i wanted to go to bethel as it was trumpted up as the best place to spend ones youth.i never did get to go due to various circumstances.now after learning of so many facets of discontent by many who have had the chance to go there along with my own terrible experience of the way you can be bullied and treated by those in authority who thinks that their are your lord and master.i'm surely glad i din't. bullying is real along with all this apostate name calling and shunning...there are indeed many practices in the org that are not Christ like .
@BeGoodNow5
@BeGoodNow5 9 жыл бұрын
Have you left?
@sunshineleonwilliams9902
@sunshineleonwilliams9902 9 жыл бұрын
BeGoodNow5​ I have not left Jehovah or loss my faith in the ransom provision given through his own beloved son Christ Jesus.....I just drifted away from serving men and being under the control and influence of mortal men who thinks that salvation comes through them rather than Christ by acting pharisacal.....Rather than keep becoming a slave to men, and giving to them worshipfull honor....I've decided to let my worship go to God and to obey God rather than men....AMEN.
@BeGoodNow5
@BeGoodNow5 9 жыл бұрын
Good, that makes me very happy to hear that. So many in our position, after coming to a knowledge of some of the things discussed on this sight and many others, loose all love for the True God, some even fall away to believing in Satanic doctrines like the Trinity after befriending worshippers of those faiths. Many loose their believe in God all together and start down the road to changing their lives to more closely correspond to that of the people of this immoral world system, thinking that they have found freedom. And yes, they have found freedom of a sort, but not the type that leads to life. That's because of them not having enough insight to realize that the 'Org', as they call it, does not equate to the Glorious and Righteous God Jehovah. Also of not understanding that the holy scriptures show that there hasn't been an earthly organized people of His, that did not eventually leave Him and go off into apostasy. Even the Christian congregation of the 1st Century eventually left the teaching of our Lord Christ Jesus and went of into apostasy after the death of his Apostles. So it is no real wonder that some of the issues presenting themselves today within the association of JWs have arisen. This shouldn't be a surprise, because hasn't Satan been working hard to undermining it? What did Christ Jesus say at Matt 13:24-30, 36-43. But as he has taught us, a very serious cleansing is coming the way of the True Christian Congregation when the "Refiner" of Malachi 3:1-18 arrives at the "Temple", which contrary to fictitious latter-day WatchTower prophecy, hasn't happened yet! Yet it may be one thing to go out from under the umbrella of the WTS, which may indeed be loosening some very authoritarian chains from a person, but why would anyone want to renege on their dedication to the True God and be induced to loosing their love for Him because of the actions of men and situations, that scripture has forewarned us about? They have truly fallen at the first hurdle of the race, especially when the real fiery tests are still future. That is not to say that some have not undergone some very real and serious trials already, which the WTS may have a lot to answer for from what I can determine, yet I am not judge to be able to lay the blame squarely at anyone's feet. God will deal with those who are doing the stumbling, and those who are transforming what should be a "Resting place" with their "Command upon command", and scattering His sheep. You on the other hand, do not let anyone on this sight or anywhere else allow you to experience "ship wreck" concerning your faith as so many have! Keep well.
@sunshineleonwilliams9902
@sunshineleonwilliams9902 9 жыл бұрын
BeGoodNow5​ I am fully rooted and grounded and I rest my hope and trust in God's eternal love, mercy and justice which will be meeted out to each and everyone according to their deeds, whether good or bad. Amen, my brother. keep your faith and trust in Jehovah God and his dearly beloved son Christ Jesus .Amen.
@natalielove6934
@natalielove6934 9 жыл бұрын
Where is pt 2 of the audio of Mariuci's story
@BALCACER
@BALCACER 9 жыл бұрын
Good ! Another one that is a winner !
@matilda4406
@matilda4406 7 жыл бұрын
That's what does it for me, the way they treat people is not right. Yes, so many little things that just add up to an ugly picture.
@romenpheonixx7005
@romenpheonixx7005 10 жыл бұрын
I've never been to Bethel @JWStruggle, but oh boy should you interview me. Good videos by the way.
@JWStruggle
@JWStruggle 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Romen. Drop me an email at JWStruggle at gmail.com and give me an outline of your story!
@4jesus4truth38
@4jesus4truth38 10 жыл бұрын
Good interview. I just listened to it with my mom. She made a good point about shunning: doing it without knowing why proves it's a cult.
@green2stayecoswdmarketingn339
@green2stayecoswdmarketingn339 9 жыл бұрын
'The ramifications of this Corporations is seriously causing such a destructive effect on the social fabric of your country,Sadly it will permeate right to the decision and law legislative bodies that make the very serious decisions of governing your entire country,But even worse than that, this disruptive and destructive influence (I believe) is now affecting your national policy making and even more seriously your foreign affair policies and views,particularly of different cultures and religions and the manner in which you handle these matters.I do not live in the United States but there are without a doubt new alliances and suspicions regarding your handling of these affairs, the narrow view of God,morals and the order of treatment of societies of peoples has been greatly influenced by the self righteous piety stemming from religions such as the Watchtower Society and others similar to it.This no doubt would please them as they are quite happy to become a self destructive self fulfilled twisted prophecy,dragging your country and the rest of the world into the hell of their obsessive and psychopathic view of God and his purpose for mankind' Thankyou for your candor if gives me hope that not everyone is blind to the blatant manner in which this organisation destroys the good of communities,neighbourly common sense and basic love of fellow man,I only hope your elected officials,judges leaders and peace enforcement representatives also see these important logics, but more importantly decipher a diffusion of power of the evil of institutions such as this organisation, in time for the will of good men to be the guiding force of the future and not the ramblings of God hating corporations such as this' Thanks.
@42amylou
@42amylou 9 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me what TTATT means?
@raybyrne7714
@raybyrne7714 9 жыл бұрын
42amylou The Truth About The Truth
@barderia1
@barderia1 10 жыл бұрын
Jehovah teaches you to Love and forgive... personal issues need to be set aside. Truly and fully serving Jehovah you shall over come. You will feel it in your heart and it will change your life...
@matthayes533
@matthayes533 5 жыл бұрын
B leslie, meaning... his parents should love and forgive him and be restored to their son and their grandchildren? or does that kind of love fail?
@TheScrewedGeneration
@TheScrewedGeneration 10 жыл бұрын
I guess that since the Wt removed many verses from the NWT I believe in 1984, they'll have to remove the story of the prodigal son since it contradicts the Wt.
@hiway280z
@hiway280z 9 жыл бұрын
I guess it does. He welcomed him home and didn't shun him.
@zachd2277
@zachd2277 6 жыл бұрын
Can you help me? Did I hear him say the organization has asked to be called, “the mother”? If so, do you know where it says this?
@zachd2277
@zachd2277 6 жыл бұрын
Never mind, I found it. Here’s a link to a website that has all the watchtower info. The only time I have heard of someone refer to “the mother” was a family member that got into witchcraft......now hearing the Org wants us to refer to her as “the mother”, scares the crap out of me.....I have family still in this organization! mmoutreach.org/jw-mother.
@estherrivers6840
@estherrivers6840 4 жыл бұрын
@@zachd2277 the 'Mother' referred to in the pagan faiths is Mother Earth/Mother Nature.. nothing more. I studied the pagan religions and a lot of lies have been told about it over the decades. I found it fascinating and quite pure in its teachings.
@croptriangle7253
@croptriangle7253 9 жыл бұрын
"Are you in the truth, brother?" Let's examine that expression. The very expression, being "in" the truth is an oxymoron. Which makes more sense, to be "in the truth", or, to have the Truth "IN US"? Even that expression can lack integrity, as our imperfect nature may not manifest honesty in all things, nor at all times. Therefore, where "truth" is concerned, perhaps it would be better to include it in our speech this way... We must "seek" the truth. We must come to "know" the truth. We must be "committed" to "act" [and speak] in truth. We must come to be "responsible/accountable" for the result of the truth.
@TeresaRust
@TeresaRust 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!!
@norbertobreda
@norbertobreda 9 жыл бұрын
Remember what was said about the Matthew 24:34? "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.". 1914? First world war? Matthew 24:14?
@Malala1974
@Malala1974 10 жыл бұрын
This was a great interview no doubt. Only, the force of this message was slightly weaken by his constant use of "raised in the truth etc..." when we know that the watchtower is an organization founded on lie
@bible4truth
@bible4truth 10 жыл бұрын
1. In all the false religions, you have to go through some man on earth to get to God, whether its a man (priest) or a committee. ; 2, they make sure you have to 'earn' / work your way towards God.; 3. they deny the Godhead--God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit and particularly the deny the deity of Jesus. God has blessed some to escape this snare. Praise God!
@gloriayoung392
@gloriayoung392 8 жыл бұрын
Forgive please my iPad it has a mind of its own with the spelling
@dinomorell5163
@dinomorell5163 9 жыл бұрын
I'm currently D.F'd & I have seen & heard plenty of things that were unbecoming of a Christian by some of the friends.The double lives & anything else that many different people do that does bring reproach on Jehovah's name & His Organization! And like ravenous wolves just waiting to attack & have an excuse to nit-pick Jehovah's people.The Apostate & others that go by any mistakes or 'flaws' in the Organization has convinced them that Jehovah's Witnesses are a false,unchristian etc. group or cult! Jehovah allows people to do things even if it is displeasing in his eyes.Unfortunately He has always dealt with this type of behavior since our first parents,Adam & Eve.He's had to make future provisions,in order to fix mankind's mistakes!But just because friends in the Organization world wide & at Headquarters have made mistakes accidentally or intentionally.Doesn't mean the rest of them are the same & those who cause any to stumble in the Organization will have to answer for their actions! We're all different types of people with different kinds of backgrounds,temperaments so on & so forth.Some have things they really need to work on & some can do that a little quicker than perhaps another can!But none the less Jehovah still continues to bless His loyal faithful servants world wide because He knows that they know what the Truth is about him & His Son Christ Jesus!Those who are doing wrong in His Organization,bringing reproach upon His name are going to answer for what they have done! OH such a frightening day to face Jehovah on,with having allowed fear of man & selfish motive to take root & possibly becoming blood guilty as well! Eph.4:1,2;Matt.6:12-15.
@BeGoodNow5
@BeGoodNow5 9 жыл бұрын
Do you intend going back?
@dinomorell5163
@dinomorell5163 9 жыл бұрын
BeGoodNow5 But of course! Truth is Truth & Jehovah's organization is the channel he's using to make this known & give mankind their one last chance!
@BeGoodNow5
@BeGoodNow5 9 жыл бұрын
Dino Morell Good, get back as soon as you can. However know this. All the stuff being discussed on the net is not without basis. Please, please, please, go back with your eyes open and understand that men are making the decisions by which the WTS and the association of brothers under its umbrella are being guided at this time and not God or Christ Jesus, for if the men at Brooklyn Bethel are really the 'Faith and Discreet slave' of Matt 24, they are doing an appointed work in the Masters 'absence' and will render an account as to what they did when he returns, which quite obviously hasn't happened yet. You are dedicated to Jehovah God and Christ Jesus, not to the Watchtower Society. The congregation exists to help you to become a mature Christian, not to dictate to you every facet of how you should live your life and to rule over you. JWs have the basic teachings correct, but their interpretation of latter-day prophecy is a complete mess, as the scriptures foretold, many are content to have their "ears tickled." That is not to say that JWs are not God's chosen people in these later times, we certainly are, and for the reason that you already know, having dedicated and baptised yourself in His name and the name of our Lord, Christ Jesus. But be careful to glorify God, for many amongst us have fallen to glorifying the society, believing that by doing so they are doing God's will. Hopefully, you know or will learn the difference! Keep well.
@sugarlovedreadlock
@sugarlovedreadlock 9 жыл бұрын
Dino Morell You're scared to step forward and really look! Its hard, I know, but that's what makes it a mental trap. Hope you take that step one day and look.
@dinomorell5163
@dinomorell5163 9 жыл бұрын
Nadine Coles Scared to look at what exactly?Please elaborate.
@centrededeveloppementspiri4885
@centrededeveloppementspiri4885 8 жыл бұрын
damn how can you make sure that he is a real former one.
@DoctorWonka
@DoctorWonka 10 жыл бұрын
Good interview, but I wish you (and anyone) would quite using the pharase "raise in the truth". It is NOT the truth! Period. You should instead say, "raised in the Watchtower organization", or something along that line.
@deekid311
@deekid311 10 жыл бұрын
you have to understand that it's hard to weave that phrase out of your vocabulary, especially when you've been using it for so long. just because a person is out of the WT, it doesn't mean they completely abandon the Witness lexicon. phrases like "the truth" and"worldly" might be forever ingrained in their subconscious and they might have a freudian slip and say it. that's how influential the society is
@gloriayoung392
@gloriayoung392 8 жыл бұрын
I am behind in your videos please understand these young ones need support from God Jehovah I have heard of night mares of Bethnal they are Alot of Bad teacher s beware
@DeLa3raGeneracion
@DeLa3raGeneracion 10 жыл бұрын
What does TTATT stand for?
@JWStruggle
@JWStruggle 10 жыл бұрын
TTATT is: The Truth About The Truth. Incidentally this has been twice submitted to Wikipedia and they have twice rejected it as a new entry because "not enough people know what it is"... COME ON PEOPLE LET WIKIPEDIA KNOW WHAT TTATT IS!
@kimberlyalexander9691
@kimberlyalexander9691 7 жыл бұрын
JWStruggle the truth about lies... maybe tell the TRUTH.... that might help your campaign...pay attention
@Mellow845
@Mellow845 8 жыл бұрын
I smell disfellowship here...
@natalielove6934
@natalielove6934 9 жыл бұрын
Mariuca's story. Sorry type o
@bretherenlee1404
@bretherenlee1404 9 жыл бұрын
lev 19:28 YOU must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves
@ladyhollman9534
@ladyhollman9534 8 жыл бұрын
Christians aren't under the Mosaic Law : Galatians chapter 3
@bbuttercup7204
@bbuttercup7204 7 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a tattoo in honor of me finding out about the silent lambs, The Australian Commission, and the GB being a part of the UN for 10 years, after they taught us the UN was the wild beast of Revelation. Tit for Tat and that is that
@bretherenlee1404
@bretherenlee1404 7 жыл бұрын
God does not like tats
@bbuttercup7204
@bbuttercup7204 7 жыл бұрын
I don't like being lied to, I don't like child abuse, I don't eat animals , we are no longer under the law, and my body is a temple. It's time to redecorate.
@bretherenlee1404
@bretherenlee1404 7 жыл бұрын
tats draw attention to the person and is immodest . if God wanted you to pollute your body with tats he would have said to israel it was okay
@joeldawson8506
@joeldawson8506 7 жыл бұрын
what is ttatt
@joytoyouandme4593
@joytoyouandme4593 7 жыл бұрын
Page Crawlers -Its stands for The Truth about The Truth-
@tachaclaudio11
@tachaclaudio11 6 жыл бұрын
What’s TTAT?
@deeaxenhammer4817
@deeaxenhammer4817 6 жыл бұрын
tachaclaudio11 The Truth About The Truth.
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