Interview with David Steinbuhler, Developer of Smaller Piano Keyboards

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Hugh Sung

Hugh Sung

Күн бұрын

In this episode of A Musical Life, we meet David Steinbuhler, a 5th-generation textile manufacturer who developed a passion for creating piano keyboards that can accommodate pianists with smaller hands. Together with pianist Christopher Donison, David is trying to develop the Donison-Steinbuhler Standard to create a consistent format for smaller keyboards and help promote their adoption in the music world.

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@MusicalBasics
@MusicalBasics 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm making a video on David Steinbuhler too. Thanks Hugh for taking the time out to visit him and give him this documentary!
@JoshuaFaulks
@JoshuaFaulks Жыл бұрын
I love that video!! 😊😊😊😊
@JoshuaFaulks
@JoshuaFaulks Жыл бұрын
I also really have trouble doing big chords and playing harder songs because of my hand size.. I can barley play octaves 😅
@toastyoreos9584
@toastyoreos9584 2 жыл бұрын
The fact this has only 6k views right now really proves that not a lot of people have seen this. It's sad, I'm sad. This should be @everyone'ed to every pianist in the world
@fionabegonia7802
@fionabegonia7802 3 жыл бұрын
These narrower-keyed keyboards make a tremendous difference for pianists with small hands. Hopefully, in the future, they will become as common as 3/4 size violins, etc.
@paskpianos
@paskpianos 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in touch with new projects here: paskpiano.org
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 2 жыл бұрын
I find it quite ironic how enormous Steinbuhler's hands are. That's empathy.
@la-civetta
@la-civetta Жыл бұрын
Yes! A rare man who saw the potential in another human's idea and performed ingeniously on it.
@kristopherdetar4346
@kristopherdetar4346 2 жыл бұрын
I had dreamed about this modification since the late 70’s. You Sir are a genius for creating this for pianists.
@cashglobe
@cashglobe 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was ridiculous that there weren't many different sizes for the piano keyboard. Imagine if all Upright Bass players had to play a full size upright, or if all drummers had to play on the exact same layout of a kit, etc etc. I have pretty small hands, would love to try one of these out and be able to experience what it is like to play having larger hands!
@la-civetta
@la-civetta Жыл бұрын
If more people would think like you in this way, the world would be better. I guess many people see things in the world an go with "That's how it is, you cannot change it." Of course you can, but many people do not dare to question the status quo. It's like Steve Jobs said: "Almost everything you see, manmade, has been created by people not smarter than you. Once you really believe that, you can change the world."
@la-civetta
@la-civetta Жыл бұрын
This is amazing, long due and Donison, Steinbuhler and other people involved are heroes of the music instrument industry!!
@tejasb1239
@tejasb1239 Жыл бұрын
I saw this on Lionel Yu's channel, and this will solve many of my problems of having small hands.HIGH TIME piano companies like Yamaha, Roland, Kawai, Steinway and Sons, etc reach out to Mr. Steinbuhler for alternate size keyboards and maximize their piano sales and customers!
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 2 жыл бұрын
David is a benevolent wizard. Thanks for the fine interview, Hugh.
@olgaalbasini7865
@olgaalbasini7865 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God this is amazing. I have never heard of this before and I am a professional pianist. I have quite extensive hands for a woman but I did have pain in my forearms some years ago, and I am sure that wouldn't have happened with a smaller size that suited me. I also think this is why there are same amount of female and male prizewinners in violin competitions but not so in piano competitions. I really hope this will change in the future! Thank you Hugh for the interview and Mr. Steinbuhler for his amazing work!!
@PriyankaThakur
@PriyankaThakur 6 жыл бұрын
If I ever move to the United States my investment would be this piano by this great man and I would by the smallest size. Unfortunate enough to not even reach an octave. Hell I don’t care about how difficult it would be to transition I will do it and I will play the smallest always. Piano is my passion not profession, all I need is a smaller keyboard to play effortlessly and enjoy and be self satisfied.and I am sure most of the Asians will be in the same boat as I am. Makers should understand that Europeans are not the only ones playing piano. And m sure many of the Europeans girls will benefit as well.
@vprajapa
@vprajapa 2 жыл бұрын
You play guitar really well and sing great. I started out with playing guitar myself. However I always loved the sound of piano so now I am learning piano. I'm in U.S and as much I want to get with this person, it is too expensive to get another new pianp and if I wanted to switch the keyboard of my existing piano it would be expensive the move the piano to there and back home. I wish I had known about his before I bought my piano.
@PriyankaThakur
@PriyankaThakur 2 жыл бұрын
@@vprajapa thank you so much. its good to know that you are learning piano as well, may be i can learn from you some day. i get very dissapointed when i cant play a few chords just because of the span and theres no motivation left to complete that piece after that. these people are trying to get portable piano makers to get into making the smaller keyboards. which if successful will make them cheaper and accessible. they do have a petition on their website. sign it if you can spare a few minutes. good to see you here😀
@vprajapa
@vprajapa 2 жыл бұрын
@@PriyankaThakur Well if I had opportunity to teach you piano ever in my life would be an honour. You can play piano without being able to reach 8th or 9th. Search for jonah ho on youtube, which will definitely give you inspirations. :)
@KALSAFilms
@KALSAFilms 7 жыл бұрын
As someone with small hands and aspirations of being a professional pianist, I think it would be incredible to be able to play and perform in a piano with smaller keys. Mr Steinbuhler has to created something remarkable, but it is yet to become a standard. He should invest in marketing it to great audiences, show professional pianists with small hands performing the great works of Liszt and Rachmaninoff effortlessly on his keyboards. I would really like to buy one of those, but it won't be of much use if my city's concert hall doesn't have one for performers
@michaelfuria4257
@michaelfuria4257 6 жыл бұрын
mainstream piano makers are very slow to make any new innovations in keyboard design like octave widths. Most are still stuck in 1890 technology.
@androidkenobi
@androidkenobi 6 жыл бұрын
it sounds like as long as it's not a steinway u can take yours with u and just stick it in there
@douglascutler1037
@douglascutler1037 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelfuria4257 - Repetition compulsion, sunk-cost fallacy, appeal to ancient wisdom fallacy, tradition over logic. Much innate human cognitive bias at play here. Even extremely intelligent musicians are susceptible to such errors in critical thinking. Plus, piano and keyboard makers are no longer artisans but bottom line oriented, risk-averse businesses.
@musictramp41
@musictramp41 4 жыл бұрын
Can they apply this idea to digital pianos? I would love to play a Nord or a Rhodes with a 7/8th keyboard.
@jazzytrumpet
@jazzytrumpet 2 жыл бұрын
yes they did it to Kawai mp11se in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kL6cntF6krDHZGw.html ( I know your comment is 2 years old but I post this just in case you hadn't found the answer yet and still wanted to know)
@jonos138
@jonos138 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I wish electronic keyboard/stage piano manufacturers would make smaller version keys. I have small hands and cannot stretch to some notes. It can also cause aching fingers on the notes I can stretch too. There are so many pianists with the same problems, I don't understand why this hasn't become the norm. Surely it would be a bit easier for electronic keyboards too and less costly to produce. Having more choice can only be better.
@Gjermund-Sivertsen
@Gjermund-Sivertsen 3 жыл бұрын
Genius. Thanks for creating this video. The website of his is down. Where can we order a keyboard like that?
@CunninghamPiano
@CunninghamPiano 3 жыл бұрын
You can contact Cunningham Piano to order a reduced size keyboard: cunninghampiano.com
@douglascutler1037
@douglascutler1037 2 жыл бұрын
Steinbuhler has switched over to a non-profit. For the new site search: DS Standard Foundation
@greatjourneyw451
@greatjourneyw451 Жыл бұрын
I would love to own a keyboard that fit my hands, so I can play those huge cords, and also play faster at the same time with those cords, I hope they start selling them as commonplace one day
@PSlo0over
@PSlo0over 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way for Mr. Steinbuhler to design narrower keys for digital pianos? I have an 88 keys digital piano and it's painful playing with the full-sized keys. Would really love if there were keys that could maybe be placed on top of the actual keys? Don't know how that would work but I cannot afford an acoustic piano to get Mr. Steinbuhler's custom smaller keys so I'm hoping something would be developed for digital pianos.
@PassionPno
@PassionPno 2 жыл бұрын
Steinbuhler's keys cost as much as an acoustic piano.
@PSlo0over
@PSlo0over 2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionPno Oh no that means I'll never be able to play a piano 🥲
@truthpopup
@truthpopup 5 жыл бұрын
My hands are about average size and I can play most of the major tenths with the left hand, except for Db-Ab-F and Ab-Eb-C. On the first, my left thumb tends to hit the E along with the F, and on the second, the B along with the C. Using a MIDI keyboard, I get around that by confidently hitting both the E and F, or the B and the C, and editing out the unwanted notes in a MIDI editor. If smaller size keyboards become available in MIDI keyboards, I will be interesting in buying one of those.
@paskpianos
@paskpianos 4 жыл бұрын
Expecting a keyboard from Europe using cutting edge technology soon - see paskpiano.org
@ValkyRiver
@ValkyRiver Жыл бұрын
I have to hit the corner of C in order to play Ab-Eb-C
@Hvranq
@Hvranq Жыл бұрын
It is very simple to replace the keyboard of a piano. There is no logic reason for only one standard size especially if it is based on exceptional large hands.
@stevensommerfeld6799
@stevensommerfeld6799 2 жыл бұрын
How can I purchase one of these? I have a Yamaha Clavinova I could bring to David for a refit with the keyboard.
@searchers
@searchers 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if any pianist, with enormous hands (e.g. can reach a 12th, 13th or even 14th) has ever asked for a larger keyboard, or wider keys. Pianists such as Rachmaninoff, Lhevinne, Artur Rubinstein had very wide stretches. And Anton Rubinstein had very thick fingers. Perhaps Anton and Artur Rubinstein, who were both infamous for hitting many wrong notes, could have been more accurate with larger or wider keyboards.
@hughsung
@hughsung 7 жыл бұрын
Fascinating question. I remember my old teacher Jorge Bolet struggling to fit his enormous hands in between the keys at times. The problem with designing a larger keyboard is that I believe you then have to redesign the entire piano body to fit - not an easy task!
@rhondaboyle189
@rhondaboyle189 7 жыл бұрын
From statistical data on pianists' hand spans, anyone which a reach of that magnitude is extremely rare. An 'average' Caucasian male with a 9 inch (22.9 cm) max span can play a 10th, but not particularly comfortably. For further information, see www.smallpianokeyboards.com. Women, on average, have a maximum span which is one inch (2.5 cm) less than for men.
@michaelfuria4257
@michaelfuria4257 6 жыл бұрын
yes, playing between the black keys can be a challenge with wide fingers. good point.
@pawncube2050
@pawncube2050 5 жыл бұрын
Me, many people I know and from my family have 11ths 12ths and 13ths, its somewhat annoying that sometimes you just want to hit one key and you end up hitting 2 >.
@douglascutler1037
@douglascutler1037 2 жыл бұрын
@@hughsung No, I don't think that's necessarily correct. It could be done. A normal piano keyboard has extra space occupied by the 'cheek blocks' or small wooden blocks at either end of the keyboard. This unused space could be reassigned to accommodate something close to maybe a 5% to 8% increase in overall keyboard width. It would be the same kind of adaptation as the Steinbuhler reduced-width keyboard except in reverse. The reduced-width modification is achieved by offsetting the angles of the key shanks towards the centre of the keyboard and you would simple offset the shanks to the outside to achieve a wider overall keyboard width. No need for a new main instrument. But what was the precise issue with George Bolet's hands? Most pianists do not not complain of having hand spans that are too wide. Usually they boast about this. Wide finger tips is another matter altogether. Fats Waller had big hands with a wide span AND wide fingers. It is said he would sometime grease his fingers to make it easy to negotiate in between black keys. That is the real issue for wide fingers, the space between blacks. So why not make a specific adaptation of the black key dimensions? Indeed, Steinbuhler has already done this to a degree. The traditional manner of shaping a black key is to give it a convex or slightly outward slanting sides, like a mild pyramid shape. But this shape actually impinges on the strikeable area between black keys where lay white key tails. It's actually rather inexplicable but hey, tradition is tradition. But Steinbuhler correctly realized that space between black keys would be at a premium in a reduced width keyboard and actually makes his black keys with narrower sides. The problem for a concert pianist is moving around from piano to piano. Steinbuhler has sought to address this issue with easily interchangeable keyboards and combined action stacks. So just now it occurs to me as I'm writing that Steinbuhler could an an to his product line: a keyboard of conventional width except with black keys modified to accommodate very wide fingers, i.e., blacks keys with straight sides or even ever so slightly narrowed individual width as well.
@hellopsp180
@hellopsp180 5 ай бұрын
I want a digital piano that can do this
@Hamachingo
@Hamachingo 2 жыл бұрын
Don't church organs and harpsichords typically have narrower keys than the standard 88 key piano but also have quite a lot of variation among individual instruments? Pianos are pretty expensive and hard to move so I get that you wanna have a one size fits all thing. Yamaha and Kawai could quite easily pull off offering different sizes, just go by octave width and offer the keyboard in 130, 140, 150, 160, 170 millimetres. People will probably go for the happy medium and not even know it's a centimetre narrower per octave than old-school. If anybody ever tries to order the 170, just compliment their genitals a lot and up-sell them a keyboard with "more range".
@iz6566
@iz6566 Жыл бұрын
One size fits all is a lie. In many situations, it leaves out more than half of the world humanity. Women and non-white men often don't fit this discriminative one size fits all. We need to turn this around. We nned to have things designed fitting as many people as possible - or design various (or adjustable) sizes: pianos, phones, medical instruments, hand tools, car interiors etc etc
@studentjohn35
@studentjohn35 7 жыл бұрын
The rather extreme angle of the end keys over the balance rail are going to create touch weight problems. Too many compromises.
@douglascutler1037
@douglascutler1037 2 жыл бұрын
Steinbuhler actually patented an improvement to triangulate the highly angled key shanks at the extremes of the keyboard. This measure gives rigidity and strength. The rest can be accomplished with normal weight balancing that is done on any keyboard.
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