Why Europe Fell Behind the United States

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Into Europe

Into Europe

Күн бұрын

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Into Europe: This video analyzes the commonly repeated narrative that Europe is experiencing a decline, facing a crisis, and falling behind the United States and China economically. The GDP per capita graph compared to the United States since 1995 shows a noticeable divergence, but the reasons for this are not as straightforward as some suggest.
The video explores the different perspectives on Europe's economic decline and debunks some common myths, including an ageing population, the absence of tech giants, and supposed laziness among Europeans. It also examines what sets some European countries apart from others, and how they have managed to thrive despite the challenging economic climate.
The video presents an objective analysis of Europe's economic situation and raises the question of whether there are signs of hope for Europe's economy in the future.
00:00 The Myth of Europe's Economic Decline
00:55 1-Why GDP isn't everything
02:56 The Daily Upside - Sponsor
04:02 2-Europe's Productivity Problem
05:50 3-Europe's Failed Economic Transition
08:23 4-How Different Countries Have Done
09:51 5-The 4 Different Futures of Europe
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@IntoEurope
@IntoEurope Жыл бұрын
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@xianxiaemperor1438
@xianxiaemperor1438 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video
@xianxiaemperor1438
@xianxiaemperor1438 Жыл бұрын
I think all European countries are going to need a higher fertility rate of let's say 2 children or 3 children per woman, more affordable housing, more high-income* economies in the Balkans/''Eastern'' Europe, more Mutual aid projects between European countries that benefits everyone (ideally), a further expansion of the EU to include Moldova, Ukraine, Albania, North Macedonia, Serbia plus Bosnia and Herzegovina and Montenegro, land value tax revenue to spend on public services/a citizen's dividend and more military spending like spending 2% or 3% of European countries' GDP on European militaries to catchup with the US potentially in the future.
@angelcabeza6464
@angelcabeza6464 Жыл бұрын
the US is not homogenous that already disproves your video lazy European
@jankompos2330
@jankompos2330 Жыл бұрын
dude why you taking france as snowflake,are you feeling alright? imagine you losing everything due to made up tax payments,you should inform yourself ,before insulting,and have a reason to insult as well
@mile_381
@mile_381 Жыл бұрын
​@@angelcabeza6464 irrelevant
@ilpazzo1257
@ilpazzo1257 Жыл бұрын
"European countries can be categorized in these things, and then there's France." I think this statement is timeless.
@jankompos2330
@jankompos2330 Жыл бұрын
dont f with france ,you might get a burning dumpster thrown into the bank of france and black- rock corporation owned by the rotschilds
@spider6660
@spider6660 Жыл бұрын
France is unique in many ways. They have big tech, utility and luxury companies which give a majority of tax to the government.
@powerthirst1478
@powerthirst1478 Жыл бұрын
@Crista Ferrari-Girault Europe is in decay tho lol
@ronnie9187
@ronnie9187 Жыл бұрын
I remember an anecdote about a meeting between the Prime Minister of France and the Prime Minister of Italy. At the end of their discussions, the Prime Minister of Italy whispered in the ear of his French counterpart " You know our wine is better than yours! ". To which the French prime minister looked at him for a time, and replied, "Maybe that's true, but our wine is more expensive!" And from that you see again that France is simultaneously both a southern and a northern country.
@jojolafrite90
@jojolafrite90 Жыл бұрын
@Crista Ferrari-Girault What's your problem? Some repressed hate against France? Like many that follow that trend for... Reasons.
@Raymondjohn2
@Raymondjohn2 8 ай бұрын
Some economists have projected that both the U.S. and parts of Europe could slip into a recession for a portion of 2023. A global recession, defined as a contraction in annual global per capita income, is more rare because China and emerging markets often grow faster than more developed economies. Essentially the world economy is considered to be in recession if economic growth falls behind population growth.
@maga_zineng7810
@maga_zineng7810 8 ай бұрын
My main concern now is how can we generate more revenue during quantitative times? I can't afford to see my savings crumble to dust.
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@usieey 8 ай бұрын
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@swiggyhunter4682
@swiggyhunter4682 Жыл бұрын
As a worker, I would rather live in the EU than US. If I owned a business it would be a different story.
@alr6111
@alr6111 Жыл бұрын
You get taxed to death as a worker in the EU
@cannedfeeling0338
@cannedfeeling0338 Жыл бұрын
taxed but not gunned to death
@ursulasmith6402
@ursulasmith6402 Жыл бұрын
​@@alr6111 no
@viperking6573
@viperking6573 Жыл бұрын
for now, but you won't in 50 years, and your kids won't
@TheRockkickass
@TheRockkickass Жыл бұрын
@@cannedfeeling0338 I’d rather run the risk of getting shot then have the government steal my money even more than it does in the usa
@andrasadam8256
@andrasadam8256 Жыл бұрын
You went over and beyond with this video, especially with interviewing an MEP. Great content, and great to see how far your channel has come!
@iGhostr
@iGhostr Жыл бұрын
Szerintem is 🫸🫷
@gurhanweyrah3930
@gurhanweyrah3930 Жыл бұрын
I think the US is equally facing challenges but you forget to mention the biggest advantage of the US over Europe is its energy independence and high agricultural output both of which are very crucial
@HShango
@HShango Жыл бұрын
That's why The USA can sustain themselves, Europe on the other hand not so much.
@jokuvaan5175
@jokuvaan5175 Жыл бұрын
EU really needs renewables to become energy independent and to cut ties to the authoritarian oil and gas giants of Russia and the middle east
@vinniechan
@vinniechan Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the US is one federal state and the EU is not
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Жыл бұрын
@@HShango the US also just has a better geography then Europe has. The Mississippi basin is simply overpowered
@PradedaCech
@PradedaCech Жыл бұрын
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Er, no? Large swaths of the Western US would be bone-dry without irrigation.
@ncuco
@ncuco Жыл бұрын
Hello! I heard that in 2022 Poland's economy surpassed Portugals. Being Portuguese living in Poland i find the comparison between Southern countries and Eastern fascinating. Future video perhaps? Eastern countries have only recently entered the EU while southern have been in for decades. Will the eastern economy surpass the south? Work ethics, politics, etc.
@hshdudhshduduxubes1162
@hshdudhshduduxubes1162 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the billions poured to Poland by the EU
@mile_381
@mile_381 Жыл бұрын
2021 Poland gdp per capita: 18k 2021 Portugal gdp per capita: 24.5k Poland hasnt surpassed Portugal yet
@oldchannel6736
@oldchannel6736 Жыл бұрын
@@mile_381 "2022 Poland's economy surpassed Portugals." *posts 2021 gdp per capita* Reading comprehension: D-
@2hotflavored666
@2hotflavored666 Жыл бұрын
@@hshdudhshduduxubes1162 You forgot the billions poured to Portugal by the EU
@Gnefitisis
@Gnefitisis Жыл бұрын
​@@2hotflavored666 Was Portugual destroyed by WW2 and then forced into a Communist economy? Yeah... Portugal is just lazy.
@hersdera
@hersdera 7 ай бұрын
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@KCKnowsBest
@KCKnowsBest 6 ай бұрын
What country isn’t facing hardship post Covid? U.S economy is doing the best out of all G7 nations. It’s the only country that has brought inflation down from 8% to now 3%. You think countries in Asia, Africa are having it easy ?
@DivinesLegacy
@DivinesLegacy 6 ай бұрын
@@KCKnowsBestit’s a bot bro
@maggiepie8810
@maggiepie8810 Жыл бұрын
I'm grown up with horses, and something that I really don't get is that many economists don't see the value in ensuring the health and welfare of a workforce. Workers that are properly fed, get enough time to rest, and gets time to spend with family and friends will always be more sustainable and productive in the long run.
@marcv2648
@marcv2648 Жыл бұрын
There isn't much incentive to work in Europe. You really don't get ahead by working there, so why work at all?
@alessandrorocca5826
@alessandrorocca5826 Жыл бұрын
@@marcv2648 lol what? 😂
@maggiepie8810
@maggiepie8810 Жыл бұрын
@@marcv2648 What do you know about leadership?,
@marcv2648
@marcv2648 Жыл бұрын
@@maggiepie8810 Not sure how leadership figures into this. Government shouldn't be involved in the personal affairs of people and how they spend their time. Government's only role is to protect the nation from external threats, settle differences between citizens and uphold the basic rights of citizens. That's it. Once your government takes on the role of entitlements, your society is starting down the road of decline. There are no exceptions.
@marcv2648
@marcv2648 Жыл бұрын
@@alessandrorocca5826 Where has Europe led the world since the inception of the welfare state? Pretty much nowhere. State funding of large industries to copy America. That's it.
@aint_just_whistlin_dixie
@aint_just_whistlin_dixie Жыл бұрын
Everybody mindlessly points to GDP to measure different countries, but it is hugely flawed as a stat. It doesn't value the return on investment for economic activity. If a road to nowhere is built and then crumbles, the "value" of building that road is the same as for a road that ppl actually use, so both are added to GDP. This becomes a problem for measuring China's economy since they've built many "ghost cities" and other sham projects. Also, the value added to an economy from such things as better health care / less violence are not measured, which is a problem for the US, which although it is an insanely productive & hi-tech economy, has many places where the toll on people from such things is high. One number can't measure everything.
@xtc2v
@xtc2v Жыл бұрын
GDP also includes debt....not many people realise this
@lours6993
@lours6993 Жыл бұрын
I suggest life expectancy and % of people in poverty as complementary measures. US life expectancy has been falling for years. Also, who benefits from GDP growth? In the US all of the benefit goes to the top 1-10%, the rest get poorer.
@williamthebonquerer9181
@williamthebonquerer9181 Жыл бұрын
​@@xtc2v what type of debt are you referring too and in what sector?
@xtc2v
@xtc2v Жыл бұрын
@@williamthebonquerer9181 household consumption and public spending. Both figures will naturally include debt
@gspaulsson
@gspaulsson Жыл бұрын
What we need to measure is aggregate utility.
@ricardosmythe2548
@ricardosmythe2548 Жыл бұрын
The US has had the advantage of holding the world's reserve currency giving it free reign on its printing press without the economic pains that normally come with overspending. The US wasn't touched by ww2 either Europe had to be rebuilt while the US was building up its manufacturing base to fill the gap Europe couldn't anymore.
@okm58
@okm58 Жыл бұрын
marshall plan
@ricardosmythe2548
@ricardosmythe2548 Жыл бұрын
@@okm58 how does the marshal plan negate the facts laid out above? Holding huge amounts of foreign debt just added to the party and gave nations cause to back the petro dollar. I'm not knocking it I'm just calling it as it is. People should be aware, world reserve currency parties only tend to last 110 years at most
@gaoth88
@gaoth88 Жыл бұрын
​@@okm58 cooking stove. . . . You need context my man not just a single word to "make your point".
@reesehendricksen1871
@reesehendricksen1871 Жыл бұрын
@@ricardosmythe2548 may I ask where you are getting the world reserve currencies only lasting 110 years? I haven’t heard this figure before, and am now curious.
@gspaulsson
@gspaulsson Жыл бұрын
rein, not reign. A currency is worth what it can buy. The USD is the world's strongest currency, because it is backed by the world's biggest, most diversified, most stable and most transparent economy. Give up on the myth of "printing money," a propaganda point for gold and bitcoin hustlers. Central banks are tasked with managing money supply to maintain a low but positive inflation rate: low, to encourage investment; positive, to discourage hoarding. MAGA went ape when it hit 9.1% in June, forgetting that the world is dealing with the pandemic and its aftershocks, the deepest crisis in living memory. Since then, the Fed has wrestled it down to 5% as of today, aiming for a target of 2%. "Blame Biden" is not a viable economic theory. Inflation calmed down when the US went off the gold standard: tying a major economy to a volatile commodity is madness - just ask Venezuela. The right mounts its favorite hobby-horse, "government overspending" and the supposedly crushing debt burden. The current level of the US national debt is a result of $6 trillion in deficits run up under Trump. Republican theory: throw a party on the national credit card when times are good, with no visible effect on an economy that was already doing fine, then blame the Democrats, who follow the advice of professional economists, not right-wing rabble-rousers, constantly having to clean up the mess. Biden has done a pretty good job of restoring the economy to health. The best way to think of government borrowing is that it's like taking out a mortgage: you are not in trouble if you can keep up the payments, and what your children inherit is not a crushing burden but a valuable asset. The right has been wailing "debt, debt, the sky is falling" since forever, and the sky hasn't fallen yet. largely because America gets over its infatuation with idiots and gets back to boring, sensible governance. Republican economics is all bullshit that hustlers, hucksters and the idle rich feed to gullible voters who never learn. The red states have the worst educational systems, the shortest life expectancies, the highest crime rates and the weakest economies in the US, yet they keep falling for the same bullshit over and over.
@Andman8210
@Andman8210 6 ай бұрын
Quality of life is better in the United States, more space between houses, bigger houses, and most of all more land.
@AB-dd4jz
@AB-dd4jz 6 ай бұрын
lmao you never lived in Europe to spout so much bs
@picklerick7207
@picklerick7207 5 ай бұрын
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@grandmanitou6563
@grandmanitou6563 18 күн бұрын
In shitty car centric suburbs, there are lot of things better in the us, but that aint it chief
@CMAZZONI
@CMAZZONI 9 ай бұрын
Salty europeans complaining that the US had a headstart to everything while they sip on wine and drink dutch coffee with french croasaints. China and India have pretty good tech sectors and they were super poor in the 90s
@cristiandecu
@cristiandecu 6 күн бұрын
This is exactly what pissed me off; we are taxing all businesses to death while the rest of the super powers are investing heavily in the tech sector. And then our buttocks are shaking whenever Russia flexes its muscles or the US presidents changes.
@soul8938
@soul8938 Жыл бұрын
The fact that 2 world wars were practically the main stage in europe and most of it was in ruins while the us profited the most during both its short of a miracle how well the eu has been doing.
@LaVaZ000
@LaVaZ000 Жыл бұрын
Research about the Marshall plan...
@Daniel-ih4zh
@Daniel-ih4zh Жыл бұрын
But they stagnated well past ww2
@mrsupremegascon
@mrsupremegascon Жыл бұрын
@@LaVaZ000 Which gave huge industrial benefit to USA and basically opened the European market to all American companies.
@crazydinosaur8945
@crazydinosaur8945 Жыл бұрын
@@LaVaZ000 yes they gave money, but far from enough to rebuild the continent, (and the east was more or less plundered by the soviets) and a good chunk of the money was used to buy from the US anyway so the money came back. the Marshall plan, was not as much an giveaway, as it was an investment, and it paid back manyfold not saying that it didn't help europe it did, but it was not as simple as you implied
@themariokartlick
@themariokartlick Жыл бұрын
@@LaVaZ000 the Marshall plan’s benefits are greatly overstated by American sources. The correlation between the countries that got the most money and those that subsequently did the best is just not that strong, and even for beneficiary countries it basically represented a 0.5% bump in GDP growth over the course of three years. Most of the “rapid recovery” seen during the period was mostly just the result of investment being redirected towards productive industrial use rather than the war machine. It was important, but more for political reasons than economic ones…
@martinhartecfc
@martinhartecfc Жыл бұрын
Related to what you said about lower working hours being a choice, I want to add something about the size of firms having two sides too. I spent a little over 8 years washing dishes in firms of different sizes and I was definitely more productive when working for big firms (due to better equipment, and larger and more efficient dishwashing machines, machines for cleaning the floor instead of a mop and bucket, etc). However, these were also by far the worst jobs I ever had in my life. A rather degrading uniform, literally being required to use a special staff entrance, working relationships based purely on hierarchy, a complete lack of recognition for hard work (or even the feeling that they know you exist). Don't get me wrong, there's an element of hierarchy in small firms too. Your boss is still your boss; but that's not the ONLY relationship you have with them. They notice when you work hard or help them out by working to cover someone, you use the same entrance they do, the "uniform" is basically the requirement to use your common sense and you mostly work with the same people every day, forming part of a team. We spend so much of our lives at work that I feel that there's something similar to be said here (regarding smaller firms) to what you said about the decision to work fewer hours. This kind of thing massively affects quality of life and the US has an even bigger mental health crisis than we do for a reason.
@catalinpreda4666
@catalinpreda4666 Жыл бұрын
Quality of life in Europe is vastly better then the US in so many ways, I think "falling behind" is a win in disguise if the alternative is destroying your planet & society for profit. The real danger here is not being able to afford it in the future if we're not effective and strategic in increasing productivity
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 Жыл бұрын
Special entrance I see Scullieries are still a thing
@vinniechan
@vinniechan Жыл бұрын
Going above and beyond is good sometimes but what u don't want is it gets normalised and end up employer pitting employeea against one another and ripping off staff (which is quite prevalent in Asia) It's all about balance
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 Жыл бұрын
@@vinniechan In Europe a work culture of employees backstabbing or ratting each other is a very, VERY big no no because of historical reasons. Many European countries lived thru dictatorships in which people snitching on each other to the authorities was commonplace, whether it was under Nazism and fascism or under communism. Especially in Germany nobody wants to be reminded of the days of the 3rd Reich or the DDR where so many people were informants for the Gestapo and Stasi. Americans were especially spoiled by never having to live under any dictatorship, let alone TWO dictatorships, which cannot be said for EU countries, many of which only getting democracy in the 1990s!
@vinniechan
@vinniechan Жыл бұрын
@@fungo6631 Peter Zeihan put it nicely Geography takes care of most problems for the Americans I think the arguement titled a bit one sides at times in Europe It would do well just slightly titling to the other side The mind set is too left leaning by global standards and no way it's sustainable
@JMM33RanMA
@JMM33RanMA Жыл бұрын
Congratulations to the presenter on excellent research and presentation. I was a "practical linguist," specifically an ESL/EFL teacher. I taught English language and presentation skills. As a result of my profession, I automatically try to detect the nationality and accent of anyone to whom I am listening. Like the presenter, I have what is sometimes referred to a floating or midlantic accent. Overall a great channel and I'm happy to have found and subscribed to it.
@atix50
@atix50 Жыл бұрын
He's excellent 👌
@LordAus123
@LordAus123 8 ай бұрын
The presenter’s accent was characteristically French. It did not sound mid Atlantic at all.
@JMM33RanMA
@JMM33RanMA 8 ай бұрын
@@LordAus123 My observation was general, not specific, and there is no single agreement on what midlantic means. Someone whose French mixes Quebecois and Parisian elements could be so designated. The Yankee New England accent can sound like a mix of American and British English, but is not "midlantic" because it consists of five to seven related dialect native to the New England population.
@AlFreeman-xy4jy
@AlFreeman-xy4jy Жыл бұрын
Joined. I learned more today in economics by reading the comments than in years of videos and newspaper articles. Congratulations and thank you!
@rikZw
@rikZw Жыл бұрын
"As a Frenchmen i am hesitant to stroke the ego of the French further" as a Dutchmen i've never expected to hear that in my life! Great video btw liked and subbed looking forward to what else you got.
@Andre-by4su
@Andre-by4su Жыл бұрын
Me thinking he was actually Dutch for some reason, combined with this comment confused me immensely.
@MegaUMU
@MegaUMU Жыл бұрын
@@Andre-by4su i was thinking the same. At like 5:35 he even pronounces Groningen in a very Standard Dutch (ABN) way especially the notorious G that many speakers of English have a hard time with.
@Fitzwewels
@Fitzwewels Жыл бұрын
I was really surprised to hear you were French. With your 'European English (American) Accent' being so good, I thought you must've been Dutch. That is something I wonder about. Why do Europeans always seem to prefer to replicate American accents?
@MTTT1234
@MTTT1234 Жыл бұрын
Well, American soft power in social and culture aspects (like Hollywood etc) gives American accents a fairly large reach.
@viewer-of-content
@viewer-of-content Жыл бұрын
Also the American accent is closer to the "natural" accent that English was spoken with for atleast ~500 years preceeding the 1800s when the "Brittish" accent became a popular thing that spread across UK Institutions. Neither the UK or USA dialects are perfectly consistent with older English dialects, but the USA Pronunciations and Vocabulary tend to be older and stay more consistent than the UK which regionalise and fracture more often.
@dale6947
@dale6947 Жыл бұрын
The US is the largest English-speaking country, so your average English teacher is likely to be American
@joaquimbarbosa896
@joaquimbarbosa896 Жыл бұрын
For me, its easier, specially when most videos are from americans and not british, so one is more likely to watch american content
@sami19090
@sami19090 Жыл бұрын
@@dale6947 I don't think so. At least in my country American/British english teachers are really rare. Almost all english teachers are locals who have studied english language in university
@dersven4122
@dersven4122 11 ай бұрын
Great content, I have been looking for content on this topic for so long. I would like to watch more videos on Europe’s economy with data and objective forecasts
@c4knowledge562
@c4knowledge562 11 ай бұрын
Us: I want to be successful Western Europe: I want to enjoy life
@northwestthrills3453
@northwestthrills3453 11 ай бұрын
being successful can also be how some people want to enjoy there life
@fbabarbe430
@fbabarbe430 Ай бұрын
​@@northwestthrills3453there are also a lot of succesfull Europeens enjoying life. I have the idea that Americans think that Europeens overall lead a medocre life without any prosparity.
@gramma677
@gramma677 Ай бұрын
@@fbabarbe430 The important thing is people should be able to live the life they want to live and their country should be so prosperous, there shouldn't be any struggle for survival. Most relatives I have that are old, do not care about life happiness at all, they grew up hard and value hard work as a virtue. Which gives their lives meaning and importance. I know Italians that revel in their history and art, and gain meaning from learning and appreciating the arts. America is so prosperous you can live in a commune with a bunch of hippies, become a workaholic investment banker and live in a NYC apartment, become a fisherman. You can really do whatever you want, most countries in the world struggle just to have food for their kids and they have to hustle everyday just to survive, but never prosper.
@HShango
@HShango Жыл бұрын
Europe has been around for so long, I'm actually not surprised Europe economically is no longer powerful like that anymore. But I do not expect the decline to be drastic.
@BOY_NAME_
@BOY_NAME_ Жыл бұрын
Take some time on your month and a half mandatory vacation to really think about statement😂
@tomizatko3138
@tomizatko3138 Жыл бұрын
@@BOY_NAME_ Bullshit answer
@Be-Es---___
@Be-Es---___ Жыл бұрын
Looking at its infrastructure both fysical as digital, you'll get a totally different view.
@checkcommentsfirst3335
@checkcommentsfirst3335 Жыл бұрын
@@BOY_NAME_ L
@vexzi3963
@vexzi3963 Жыл бұрын
@@BOY_NAME_ Gladly, keep working buddy.
@hp8825
@hp8825 Жыл бұрын
This video is insanely good researched. Well done and please make more off this viedeos.
@marcv2648
@marcv2648 Жыл бұрын
No, it's entirely one-sided. It has weak excuses for all underperformance. He even invokes austerity. If austerity is ever a problem, it simply means that government handouts are far too large a portion of your economy, and there is very little incentive to produce. Austerity can not exist where the population is not dependent upon the state for redistribution of resources.
@davidnorman6348
@davidnorman6348 Жыл бұрын
This is not my subject so I am grateful to you for this comprehensible and well-explained video. Well done!
@imhotepjasonduncanson6068
@imhotepjasonduncanson6068 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for providing this summary.
@quintiax
@quintiax Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clear (and not doom-scenario-esque) explenation! If I could recommend one thing, it would be to add sources in the description. Seeing as you literally went to Brussel to talk with an official I have no doubt this video isn't thoroughly researched, but it would be nice to be able to find the sources you used if some of us wanted to dive into the concept a bit deeper :)
@IntoEurope
@IntoEurope Жыл бұрын
Hey! I added the script with (most of) the sources in the description. So feel free to check it out! I am still very far from academic standards with my note-taking/research process. Cheers, Hugo
@quintiax
@quintiax Жыл бұрын
@@IntoEurope Thank you a lot!
@markkalsbeek5883
@markkalsbeek5883 Жыл бұрын
​​@@IntoEurope hey Hugo, I've just spent the last month streamlining the researching - note taking - writing procces because I'm about to start my literature review for my master. I think it might be interesting for you. My goal is to be able to capture the important parts of what I read, be able to find them later and to reference them in the final work with the minimum amount of hassle. The core is using zotero and obsidian together. Zotero is a reference manager where you can read pdf's and take notes. Via a plugin this syncs to obsidian where you can write and reference. This procces has a lot less friction than the conventional academic LaTeX + a bib file method. So when you're researching, I can really recommend research rabbit for finding studies and exploring related studies in an area. I hope that that is any kind of helpful to you!
@gianlucapistoia8993
@gianlucapistoia8993 Жыл бұрын
I think the work you do is so incredibly important, that's the kind of transparency, which creates empathy, we (as European) need and you help with that
@NazriB
@NazriB Жыл бұрын
Lies again? Soundtrack HZ
@freskom
@freskom Жыл бұрын
Its not true at all america is facing many more problems then the eu
@ericshutter5305
@ericshutter5305 Жыл бұрын
This video is completely b.s. Without context you can do everything with (false) statistics...
@ozzyoz1495
@ozzyoz1495 9 ай бұрын
How can rhe US have a population advantage ? The EU has close to 500 million people 25% more than the US
@MrIGameHard
@MrIGameHard 7 ай бұрын
Was going to comment the same thing, keep in mind this is a EU biased video, and it (including the comments) pick and choose what they want to see (ex. Yes the US had higher pop growth but the EU has higher pop overall, which matters more) to overall downplay the situation and paint it in a better light
@silence7070
@silence7070 Жыл бұрын
I remember one occasion I was in Spain. My car broke and there was a plenty of services that only worked from 10 to 14. Biznis (stonks meme attached). And about that time they banned uber because taxists went protesting. Of course there is no fun in driving when you can't scam tourists, is there? And then they ask how are we in world have crisis and fall back from global economy.
@spyrossrules
@spyrossrules Жыл бұрын
it would be cool to see a video about these tech start-ups and what aspects of the tech/electronics market europe is and is not competitive in overall
@FrankHeuvelman
@FrankHeuvelman Жыл бұрын
We in the Netherlands don't need to be competitive. ASML for instance is a Dutch company that has an absolute monopoly in building the latest 5nm computer chip making equipment. Everyone other country is years behind. We dictate the terms for doing business and Biden knows it.
@joaquimbarbosa896
@joaquimbarbosa896 Жыл бұрын
@@FrankHeuvelman The problem is that we can't be sure if ASML won't get surpassed by other company. Is it hard? Yes, but not impossible. We can't rely solely on ASML and a few others to carry us
@arctix4518
@arctix4518 Жыл бұрын
@@FrankHeuvelman Popular last words: "We don't need to be competitive". That's how companies like IBM, Kodak, Siemens, Nokia fell behind from their leading positions. ASML might be a market defining monopolist. But Philips was that, too many decades ago. Look at Philips now... Defending first place or becoming first place. For both cases, you need innovation... for the last even disruptive innovation.
@raquetdude
@raquetdude Жыл бұрын
Regarding the recent American policy on tech /green investment, French politicians said that if they did what the USA did they would be labelled as Communist. The free market is dead and the EU is just now waking up to it on an intentional level, get ready for the state to start playing a bigger role as it now is in America.
@stevens1041
@stevens1041 Жыл бұрын
@@FrankHeuvelman netherlands is doing well. None of this video really applies to Netherlands-low gov debt and massive trade surplus from export of high quality goods. Even my cousin, who is Italian, moved to Netherlands for work.
@Masonrich
@Masonrich Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see the differences in productivity and growth between countries, I never knew there was such a stark difference between the regions. Very nice video!
@afr11235
@afr11235 Жыл бұрын
As always, an interesting discussion. I think the key difficulty is differentiating between voluntarily low work hours and involuntary factors. For example, in the US there are far fewer days of vacation and paid holidays. On the other hand, unemployment is much higher in the EU. For adults it’s around 6.5% versus 3.5%, and for youth it’s 15% versus 9%. Much of this is structural, owing to less flexible labor markets and business regulations. Without question, US workers face the risk of more pain from economic cycles and life’s misfortunes, but this is also a policy decision to foster a more dynamic economy that has led to higher incomes.
@cyphonephor1909
@cyphonephor1909 Жыл бұрын
Your comparison stats are correct for unemployment at face value but note that the US definition of unemployment is more restrictive than the EU's, contributing to a lower headline rate (I read it would be 1-2% higher following the EU definition). Also note that the overall EMPLOYMENT rate (% of adults in work) is higher in Europe than the US as there are more American disconnected from the labour force
@tylerclayton6081
@tylerclayton6081 6 ай бұрын
@@cyphonephor1909 US unemployment rate is currently 3.8%. Which is much lower than most of Europe. Our labour market is healthier and hotter than Europe because our population is younger and growing much faster compared to Europe’s older, soon to be declining population. The US added 300,000 jobs in September and 150,000 jobs in October Don’t know what statistics you’re reading but if it helps you cope then by all means, keep coping. US economic growth and productivity growth has far outpaced Western Europe for the last 15 years. That is a fact. US GDP Per Capita of $81,000 in 2023 is 70% higher than the UK and France and 50% higher than Germany’s. And that gap is only growing The US economy grows at 2% to 3% while Western Europe’s grows at 1% to 1.5%. If that persists for another 10 years, the gap between the US and Western Europe will be the same as the gap between Western Europe and Russia.
@tylerclayton6081
@tylerclayton6081 6 ай бұрын
And it’s not that Americans work too hard, it’s that Europeans that don’t work hard enough. East Asian economic giants like Japan, China, South Korea and Taiwan all work even harder than Americans. They work longer hours than us and have less vacation time or holidays. Americans have to work as hard as we do to keep up with East Asia. Europe is just lazy and will continue to decline in productivity if it continues to be lazy. In China they have a 9:9:6 policy. That means you work from 9am to 9pm, 6 days a week. That’s what we’re competing against in the US . If we don’t work hard, we will be surpassed
@Vulturexify
@Vulturexify 6 ай бұрын
@@tylerclayton6081 This claim that somehow working more hours makes your workforce more productive and therefore generate greater economic growth is pure nonsense. If that were the case, everybody would make more money by just working harder.
@avengerulsasuke5814
@avengerulsasuke5814 5 ай бұрын
@@tylerclayton6081 I have not fact checked what I am about to write, but I think Americans work more hours than the Japanese.
@SelfReflective
@SelfReflective 11 ай бұрын
I am from Croatia. We lost 1 million people in the last 30 years, about 20 percent of our population. And other countries down south are in an even worse shape. Europe, southern Europe at least, is dying, while gloating over every mass shooting in the US. As if that's gonna matter while we rot and decay.
@mile_381
@mile_381 11 ай бұрын
Pa ne umire, eno u 🇨🇿,🇪🇪,🇱🇹,🇵🇱,🇸🇮 ljudi počeli i da se vraćaju a mladi i ne odlaze toliko kao pre 20-30 godina
@SelfReflective
@SelfReflective 11 ай бұрын
@@mile_381 Postoje podaci, popis stanovništva, broj rođenih, broj umrlih. Jednostavna matematika.
@Croz89
@Croz89 Жыл бұрын
I think the issue is partly cultural. Europeans, and european businesses in particular, are more risk averse than their US counterparts. Many would rather stagnate and survive than risk their company for a chance to out-compete their rivals. That means the enormous investments into productivity growth are less common in Europe than the US.
@thomasgrabkowski8283
@thomasgrabkowski8283 Жыл бұрын
Also the fact that laws make it much harder to grow and expand businesses in Europe and also European governments are less willing to bail out bankrupt companies than the US
@MegaRitmos
@MegaRitmos Жыл бұрын
It's all due to over regulated economics with too many restrictions to the business, plus natural European laziness
@ayoCC
@ayoCC Жыл бұрын
​@@MegaRitmosover regulated is not really the problem. There's no good specific examples for not being able to expand in Europe due to regulations. The problem really is that if you're a company in one country, you cannot expand naturally to the entire euro zone like in America, because of language. There's also a missing a proper state R&D. The EU has no r&d goals. Menahwile the USA is spending big on military tech and space r&d which consequently becomes consumer technology. They can then use patent laws to get a slice from copies. In the tech space americans have one agglomeration zone, silicon valley. It's the perfect place because the industry is already there. You can look at your neighbors and it's highly competitive and serves a global market so it has incredible resources while also the need to innovate. The EU also has a big problem with unequal opportunity. Newer regions are middle income countries and need industries to flourish. Even a domestic version of their service works. We know that circular economies actually works. The USA has as strong consumption market, meaning if global demand were to fall off, you'd still have a strong economy, because people are earning enough to consume. I think that Europe needs to accelerate equalisation with a solidarity tax, and macrons strategy of European university. Universities set up by he EU in newer countries with top priority and competitive curriculums. This will spawn industries and draw existing ones to the site. Solidarity tax would mean richer regions pay 5% more on any capital gains, meaning money made from investing in stocks, dividends or gained as interest from a bank, above 800 a year. Tbh increase it to 10% on capital gains above 20k. And that money is purpose bound and goes directly to the newer members. Purpose bound also means though that it's tied to democratic endeavors and preferably, if multiple countries cooperate on a project they can get extra money from the 90 billion (until 2024) fund for innovation in Europe. The next fund for innovation will still largely hold the money from pre 2024, seems like they didn't use it much. I don't like the fund because people are supposed to come in with proposals and a business plan. The EU needs to use it actively too and seek out investments
@MegaRitmos
@MegaRitmos Жыл бұрын
@@ayoCC mostly agree, but I was talking mostly about small and midsize business, not transnational corp giants, they're able to take care of themselves obviously
@ayoCC
@ayoCC Жыл бұрын
@@MegaRitmos mhm true true, small to middle class income companies. from 1-50 employees. Depends on the industry though, they're not really prone to innovate, unless it's a company like Biontech making RNA research and stuff. They'll mostly make incremental improvements at best, or replicate improvements made in by other companies, and might be in danger of being outcompeted by a bigger player. Their advantages are being highly custom and communicative with the customers. They can provide tailor made solutions that a big multinational won't bother to do. The only way to innovate those industries is do it like japan did with optics and force them to pay for their own research together, they get directly taxed to pay into improvements they want themselves. They pay and come together and have to choose what their money goes to. Maybe it's some weird software, or some other solution. Not a solution for everything though and i doubt american middle class companies aren't seeing the same problems.
@derekarnold3665
@derekarnold3665 Жыл бұрын
Very informative and little to disagree with. Might have been helpful to talk about why Silicon Valley was such a success for example; access to investment, Universities and last but not least entrepreneurs are less risk averse. It's cultural thing.
@sonnyng9701
@sonnyng9701 Жыл бұрын
It's a perfect convergence of government (JPL, Livermore), academia (not just the average unis which are plenty but top-notched edu powerhouses and global R&D leaders like Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech, etc.), venture capitalists who "adventurous" and--something you neglect to mention--diverse talents (remember, more than 40% of all start-ups are foreign-born entrepreneurs including Sergey Brin, Elon Musk, . It's like a United Nations for nerds all over the world clamoring to get a piece of the digital pie. European software developers who manage to find their way to the Bay mentioned that SV is like a tech haven where they can think, innovate, "move fast and break things" like like Zuckerberg and Musk (and the late Steve Jobs) without having some European bureaucrats constantly breathing down your shoulders. Having spent my childhood in Paris and Lyon, I can tell you that the French as a culture and people--which I LOVE--would never fully embraced such diversity regardless of what their PC media and officials pontificate.
@pierregibson6699
@pierregibson6699 Жыл бұрын
Great concise work
@grek9117
@grek9117 Жыл бұрын
Usa: money, money, money China: work, work, work EU: where should i go on vacation 🤔
@87leafar
@87leafar Жыл бұрын
True
@aeuropeannotbritish7754
@aeuropeannotbritish7754 Жыл бұрын
@@87leafar more like could i go to s vakation in 50 years?
@0xBytes
@0xBytes Жыл бұрын
What you said, in the beginning, matters a lot! We did trade GDP for quality of life and that's important. Europe is not in economic decline it is growing at a steady pace for a long time with some ups and downs. What we lack in Economic Richness we make for in Wellbeing. I think that's a major important point that we should not shrug off to the side.
@MegaBanane9
@MegaBanane9 Жыл бұрын
Yea, this feels a little bit like a (probably unintentional) promotional video for US-style hypercapitalism. Referring to their companies as "better managed", because they're riding on short term benefits rather than long term sustainability, which makes them more "productive" for the moment, is certainly not how I would describe it.
@Ploppismus
@Ploppismus Жыл бұрын
Very true. The EU Served as a modell for all regions on the planet. Steady growth and cooperation aswell as a priority of quality of life is a model everyone deserves
@MsAnaheimgirl
@MsAnaheimgirl Жыл бұрын
You mean we Americans are fat and stressed. Agree with both but we have fun too and are very productive.
@liviuadrian1101
@liviuadrian1101 Жыл бұрын
But it is still true that the EU fell behind in technological advancements that determine the future economy. How the EUs plan for renewable energy and sustainability has stagnated due to lack of funds and investments and short term profit driven plans being the only projects that are currently in development. This shows an EU unable to find out what its future plans are and how to apply them them to more than just a regional level. An EU that mostly just reacts to crises by applying patches in hope of it holding together with lots of uncertainty for what will be next
@franknwogu4911
@franknwogu4911 Жыл бұрын
europe has some of the highest youth unemployment about 20%
@samoni47
@samoni47 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Although I don't agree that the UK is now on par with southern Europe. It's s bit of a stretch. Figures are grim but it's not yet that bad.
@amcraft2031
@amcraft2031 Жыл бұрын
This has been an amazing video, and has been great for my optimism!
@napoleonsdauphin
@napoleonsdauphin 8 ай бұрын
Your channel is very impressive!
@fjuvo
@fjuvo Жыл бұрын
Great video!! A bit off topic- how did you learn such amazing English? As a Frenchman it seems impossible for me to loose the accent 😅
@Mindforprogress
@Mindforprogress Жыл бұрын
he is Dutch...it helps haha
@fjuvo
@fjuvo Жыл бұрын
@@Mindforprogress Didn’t he say he was French as well? 11:20
@PradedaCech
@PradedaCech Жыл бұрын
The country abbreviations used in the graph are a bit confusing. LI and LA could both be either Latvia or Lithuania, while LI could also be read as Liechtenstein, and LA as Los Angeles. And Poland is PL, not PO.. :) The population of about half of the CE (Central European) countries actually stagnated or slightly grew. There is no dramatic population decline across the entire region.
@troglodytesrus
@troglodytesrus Жыл бұрын
Those are the internationally recognised abbreviations though. You'll see them on car license plates for example. You learn them eventually
@adamperdue3178
@adamperdue3178 Жыл бұрын
CH always gets me as an American because I forget that it's 'Confederation Helvetica' or something similar, for Switzerland. I'm always like "Wait, did Czechia switch to CH or something when they changed their name?"
@PradedaCech
@PradedaCech Жыл бұрын
@@troglodytesrus yeah, you do learn them eventually. Latvia is LV, Lithuania is LT, Poland is PL, Portugal is P..quite some errors there.
@marcv2648
@marcv2648 Жыл бұрын
LA is Louisiana buddy. Learn that. Yes, it's official.
@wilhelmsarasalo3546
@wilhelmsarasalo3546 Жыл бұрын
Good job/ Please keep them coming.
@nhoyle8609
@nhoyle8609 Жыл бұрын
I also think the GDP graph is slightly exaggerated as the data is specified as using the current USD FX rate. Most economists agree that it's very difficult to predict long-term exchange rates and if you look at, say, the UK ion the mid 2000s, on current FX rates it has performed poorly against the US but if you take the spot rate up to 2008, at some stages GBP@USD was over $2 to £1, so at the time the performance was much more on parity / superior.
@Siranoxz
@Siranoxz Жыл бұрын
Europe simply has different priorities compared to the US and China when its about economic growth. Europe wants to work towards unified efforts that everyone benefits from instead of corporate lobbies deciding on how things should be prioritized to fill their own pockets over regulatory rights of the citizens. Europe wants to maintain a living standard that is satisfying for its citizens. Instead of Americans or the Chinese working all day and having barely any free time to collect themselves.. Europe also wants to compete among itself instead of the US and China, then it understands also that European products can be standardized a lot faster, what needs to happen is that European companies are being financially supported more to prevent US or Chinese tech giants from acquiring them, and create a healthy competitive market. A thriving tech sector in Europe means more European centered standardization and therefore faster adoption of European technologies. At least that's my opinion on this matter.
@raquetdude
@raquetdude Жыл бұрын
Regarding the recent American tech/green industry policy, French politicians stated that if they copied America they would be called Communist for how left wing the policy is. If America is going that far left on investment even with private firms the EU and European nations need to agree to nationalising or greatly investing into the sector so the state has a role within it in Europe.
@arkad6329
@arkad6329 Жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true European
@Ploppismus
@Ploppismus Жыл бұрын
Insightful
@Siranoxz
@Siranoxz Жыл бұрын
@@raquetdude Regarding the political spectrum in America, it literally infects European thinking into American mindset. Somehow if some political outrage happens in the US then all of sudden its a European problem too. We need to steer away from that nonsense. And focus on our priorities instead of looking American problems as Europe is facing it own issues. So it is true that American policies are seen way more backwards in Europe then Americans see it themselves. If Europe wants to nationalize investments in tech sectors then it has to be set in regulatory agreement and countries agreeing to it, but that will not be easy either. But it could definitely trigger a tech sector boom in Europe.
@Purple_flower09
@Purple_flower09 Жыл бұрын
The French and German tech sectors are small and well behind that of the UK. Yes the UK is a basket case in many respects, I don't need to be reminded of that thanks in advance.
@FOLIPE
@FOLIPE Жыл бұрын
Well, post-2010 the US did relatively well, East Asia did very well, while Europe has seen something like Japan - stagnation. Clearly the demographic side is improtant. Maybe in the future we'll talk of a high income trap at around 2/3rd of the US GDP per capita (like we talk of a middle income trap at about 1/5th)
@nomobobby
@nomobobby 10 ай бұрын
HIgh income trap- a failure to move from high tech manufacturing to new technology based economy, like the Middle income trap's failure to advance past simple manufacturing? Interesting theory, but we'd probably need more data to see it though.
@uchennanwogu2142
@uchennanwogu2142 9 ай бұрын
@@nomobobby its mainly correlated to demographics
@AndriyAndriyAndriy
@AndriyAndriyAndriy Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks
@Galloh
@Galloh Жыл бұрын
Hi there, love your videos! In general your accent and pronunciation is really on point. I think for Maria Joao you missed it. The J is not pronounced in a Spanish way (assuming you're Dutch; similar to the Dutch ch), but more like the French J like in "je suis".
@EUMadeSimple
@EUMadeSimple Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@Victorceme
@Victorceme Жыл бұрын
Nice video and very well prepared! I would be interested on hearing more about the EU closing the tech gap with the US
@MegaRitmos
@MegaRitmos Жыл бұрын
Too late, unfortunately. The gap will only expand
@jannisclaussen
@jannisclaussen Жыл бұрын
Great Video!! :D thanks for your work!
@HollowSleep
@HollowSleep 9 ай бұрын
Much appreciated
@joaquimbarbosa896
@joaquimbarbosa896 Жыл бұрын
I'm thankfull you mentioned the subsidy tatic, we can't just keep subsidizing literally every single sector that we want to atract. Specially with the net-zero industry act, we should be more focused on developing future technologies, then trying to atract technologies other countries dominate the entire suply chain (like China on solar pannels)
@matejzganec6183
@matejzganec6183 9 ай бұрын
I mean the US is doing just that with the Inflation reduction and Chips act, and it's working out for them nicely.
@joaquimbarbosa896
@joaquimbarbosa896 9 ай бұрын
@@matejzganec6183 Except those 2 are coming at the cost of a gigantic deficit, wich they can afford because dollar is the worlds reserve currency. Also, their lower energy prices + much more companies in the field also help
@matejzganec6183
@matejzganec6183 9 ай бұрын
@@joaquimbarbosa896 at some point we have to make it more attractive for the companies here. EU/EEA enterprises are literally shifting their businesses overseas because of this approach and lack of incentives. We still have a lot of highly educated young people from EU and abroad that flock to us for our cheaper education. Need to oncentivise them to stay and not just educate so that the US can reap the rewards. The cheap energy and dollar as a reserve currency isn't something that is new. It's not something that can be a barrier to our industrial policy. Energy too would have been a hell of a lot cheaper had we started the transion on time and not allowed lobbyists in the 00s/10s to derail it in favor of natural gas.
@joaquimbarbosa896
@joaquimbarbosa896 9 ай бұрын
@@matejzganec6183 They often receive a lot of incentives, what they complain about is how hard it is to employ and fire people, how much paper work there is, the high energy prices, stricter regulations etc. Thats literally the reason they need financial assistence to invest in the EU. And in energy a good first step would be not closing NPP's unnecessarely. We have potencial, but hose things hold us back and we often just make tings even worse
@danspencer4235
@danspencer4235 Жыл бұрын
This seems like a well-balanced report that was thought out carefully. Thank you!
@MogManDog
@MogManDog 9 ай бұрын
Germany is a high austerity country, and they refuse to spend in education. It's one of the issues that is never discussed in any political talk show, because every party will lose in it. Essentially they gave up on educating people. Every company is only willing to higher people who have 5 years of experience (who is giving it to them?) and if they educate it comes with a horrific wage that is not enough to pay the ever increasing rent. So instead they try to brain drain the needed workforce from elsewhere, there is even a university in Tuzla, Bosnia i Herzegovina, which educates doctors specifically for Germany. But it's only partly successful, because there are way more attractive countries than Germany.
@kevinvandijk-treeonline4586
@kevinvandijk-treeonline4586 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work!
@Mishima505
@Mishima505 Жыл бұрын
Say what you like about Europe but at least I can walk in to a shopping centre there without fear of being gunned down by a madman with an assault rifle.
@mile_381
@mile_381 Жыл бұрын
😂thats extremely rare and you have a higher chance of dying by a lightning strike
@OhioGoogle
@OhioGoogle Жыл бұрын
Dude, you think a shooting happens everyday? I lived all my life in the US and there has been no threat or even a shooting in my life
@hansiuwe6759
@hansiuwe6759 11 ай бұрын
@@mile_381 "From 2006 through 2021, 444 people in the United States died from lightning strikes." " In 2019, the total number of gun-related deaths in the US was 33,599. In 2022, the number of deaths rose to 44,290 - a 31% increase. 647 during mass shootings"
@potatoeater7022
@potatoeater7022 10 ай бұрын
yeh i would hate to be in the eu where there was alot of terrorist bombings and someone beheaded people in france so scary
@danz1182
@danz1182 8 ай бұрын
Great video. A couple of additional things to consider: it would be extremely difficult for the EU to go toe-to-toe with the US in a creative economy strategy for a number of additional reasons. One big one is the different approaches to bankruptcy. The US bankruptcy code is an underappreciated super-weapon in an innovation economy. US businesses and creators can take more chances and actually more easily find funding given the way the US economy allows the cabining of risk via its extremely liberal bankruptcy system. The US economy, even before the current tech wave was all about creative destruction. Second is the nature of US antitrust laws. In the EU, the philosophy is that competition is best served by protecting small firms from big ones. This can result in anti-consumer outcomes and can protect weaker firms that probably should be allowed to die. In the US, competition law is focused on consumers. The system tolerates larger and more dominant firms so long as the existence of those firms benefits consumers. Europe cannot birth a Meta or an Alphabet or an Amazon because it would strangle them in their cribs. Third is labor laws. Entrenched interests naturally restrain innovation that would make them obsolete. If there had been a strong ferrier's union when the car was invented, they would have lobbied for laws to keep people on horses. This is understandable. People who have developed skills over years are going to resist changes that make their skills obsolete. Unions can give those people much more impact and the EU has far stronger unions that the US. Fourth is fundamental tax policy. The US allows those who create to keep much more of the fruits of their labor. One can make a terrific case that the EU way is fairer and that Jeff Bezos could lose 80% of his wealth and not really notice, but that does not change the fact that the US attracts capital in part because of its tax structure and that imbalance is not going to change anytime soon. Fifth is relative economic independence. The US has the world's least involved economy - meaning it relies less on external trade, imports and exports, than any other economy. This insulates it from shocks better than economies that are not as self contained. If China completely disappeared from international trade tomorrow it would be inconvenient for the US, but not a disaster in the long run. It would certainly impact the US less than the EU. The US just is not as reliant on international markets. The net result of all of these, assuming that do not change, is that the US is likely to continue outpacing Europe in growth for the foreseeable future.
@MeGawOOt99
@MeGawOOt99 9 ай бұрын
The problem with playing catch up is assuming everything will go in the same trend like on a graph but honestly no one talks about the compounding effect of past revenues of an large tech firm vs future growth of startup. Simply put having a company like Apple with a huge war chest but have been less innovative. They can simply buyout their competitors or use litigation or buy out key crititcal patents and IPs to prevent or stall any startups competiting in their industry space. The best analogy is if there was two kingdoms. Kingdom (A) had huge revenues from trade and taxes. Kingdom (B) finally caught up to Kingdom (A) after 8-10 years in revenues. Kingdom (A) can use its revenues from 8-10 years to buy and train an army to go mess up Kingdom (B). At this point, its about leaderships and execution. Large tech firms have a lot of room to manuver and can make errors and still survive. But if the startup mess up even once, it's over.
@RoninTF2011
@RoninTF2011 Жыл бұрын
Good and insightful video. Thanks
@supermash1
@supermash1 10 ай бұрын
Ireland has "powered forward"? It's a small country that doesn't do much of anything other than host a post office box headquarters for global corporations to avoid paying taxes.
@guydreamr
@guydreamr Жыл бұрын
Great analysis, well-reasoned and researched. In addition to fragmentation and a less competitive economy, one might add that overall Europe tends to be much more bureaucratic and highly regulated than the United States, and this is especially true regarding the labor market and the ease of starting new businesses. In the US, it tends to be much easier to hire and fire employees at will and for companies to otherwise restructure themselves, among other areas. This structural flexibility makes a difference.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 Жыл бұрын
In Ireland the Workplace place commission handles workplace cases but can pass it on to the courts
@jwil4286
@jwil4286 Жыл бұрын
In addition, it’s easier to start a company in the US
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 Жыл бұрын
@@jwil4286 Very easy in the UK hence why the Covid 19 British government Covid procurement happened
@RabeltCorez
@RabeltCorez Жыл бұрын
To be honest this video is so bad that you are changing statistics and using the most liberal definitions posible, lets try to make a coherent argument against this mess: 1) You are using per capita numbers in most of your figures except in the GDP figures, most probably to mask a higher gdp per capita that is independant of the growth in population, which comes thanks to using per capita intead of aggregate gdp. 2) GDP is a measure of total spending, not any other fancy name you want to put it, it takes private spending, goverment spending, investment spending and the net trade balance; from this we get that it is not wealth, actual or future, it is spending; the goverment spending is factor in by a 1 to 1, in the income to spending relation, this makes no sense due to the goverment spending not being subject to free market pricing which means we dont even know if the goverment spending is actually worth a 1 to 1 conversion or if it is a lower worth; we also get that future worth of the invesment is neglected, so the invesment spending means little to nothing too. 3)Productivity is of little use due to using GDP as a basis of the measure, but even ignoring the previous problems, YOUR way to use the measure is wrong at best, in bad faith at worst, you can clearly see that the EU-27 productivity is below the USA, but for some reason you take the best ones to compare the entire US, why not use the most productive states from the US vs the european ones, because the US perfoms better; apart from that, Norway is a petro-state and Switzerland is not at all similar to the Eurozone or the EU-27, not sure why put them in the same group. 4)Your numbers for productivity are not index to anything but the dollar, ignoring the purchasing power of those dollars in different countries, and even states, here is a ajusted one " chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/www.bls.gov/fls/intl_gdp_capita_gdp_hour.pdf " , on page 11 you can see how skewed your data is. 5)Productivity can be affected by the tax burden put on top of working, and earning, more, for example putting a special tax to extra hours, or increasing the taxes on income, or changing the brackets for the earned amounts; it is obvious that increasing the punishment for working makes people only work in a more productive way, but it makes it less rewarding for those that want more money and dont care about losing some productivity, leading to a fake productive appearance that hides people being discouraged from working as much as they want, because black markets for labor doesn´t seems to exist. For the rest of the video I cant even my braincells from dying when you are ignoring everything about economic history.
@trackingthecoreofstuffandm2310
@trackingthecoreofstuffandm2310 Жыл бұрын
@@RabeltCorez (5) there hasnt been one study that proves your number 5 pi0nt whatsoever." Plus the economic growth in the USA has been fueled by financial markets and credit of which europe doesn't have similar credit conditions. How can you explain that the average workerer haven't seen their wages grow in the last 4 decades
@dutchman7623
@dutchman7623 Жыл бұрын
This doesn't make much sense. Imagine Mexico and Cuba joining the US and Texas and California leaving... what would GDP do? Relatively poor, though high populated, countries entered the EU and relatively rich UK left. And though they are doing well, each extension after the original six members meant a drop in GDP, because Benelux, Germany, France and Italy were, and still are, the rich core of the EU. And you can say, Sweden, Danmark and Finland joined the EU, all rich countries, but together they have less than half the population of relative poor Romania. When the EU could have seen the same average growth in GDP like the USA in spite of accepting many former east block countries, it would have been a 'Wirtschaftswunder' of unknown and unprecedented proportions. Restructuring and rebuilding the eastern economies takes time and needs to be gradual, east Germany still leaps behind west Germany after reunification. It is impossible, and unwanted, to reset hundreds of million people to west European standards, it is a process that will take time and we do grant them time to adapt.
@TheSam1902
@TheSam1902 Жыл бұрын
Super accent !! J’ai cru que t’étais anglais mais y’avais un “je ne sais quoi” français là dedans. Bonne vidéo, très intéressante
@sordmasta6646
@sordmasta6646 Жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is... Europe sadly has a demographics problem resulting in economic decline, but allows for a better life. While USA is a richer country with rich CEOs and an extreme dog-eat-dog mentality. In my opinion, the purpose of advancement is not big numbers and tall charts, but to provide a better life for humanity. Europe gets it.
@lucasgrey9794
@lucasgrey9794 Жыл бұрын
There was a time when we were more progressive than Europe and then Ronald Reagan happened.
@marcv2648
@marcv2648 Жыл бұрын
@@lucasgrey9794 America is far too progressive, that's why we are in decline as well.
@lucasgrey9794
@lucasgrey9794 Жыл бұрын
@@marcv2648 We're not progressive at all. How can you look at our healthcare system and genocidal foreign policy and call us progressive?
@rudysmith1552
@rudysmith1552 Жыл бұрын
The hard work of a previous generation can only get you so far not a single person alive was there for the founding of the top 10 European companies.
@lucasgrey9794
@lucasgrey9794 Жыл бұрын
@@rudysmith1552 You have a lot of nerve directing blame for decline on the young generation when they have *zero* political power. The boomer generation are the ones that mucked things up irreparably.
@retepeyahaled2961
@retepeyahaled2961 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Predictions about the future of Europe are nearly impossible at the moment; the war in Ukraine can go terribly out of control, China and North Korea are making trouble in the far East, climate change starts causing real problems for Southeren Europe, the recent trouble with a few collapsing banks might be a sign that a major financial crisis is near, the energy market is very instable and things are not made any better by a policy that blindly chases any opportunity to go all electric - but that is a topic for an entirely different discussion ;).
@thomasdelancey5105
@thomasdelancey5105 Жыл бұрын
Nice work
@shoppinmadnesz22
@shoppinmadnesz22 8 ай бұрын
*Not to mention US is very close with both its northern & southern neighbors - they have huge trade agreements with each other. Canada also has a stable, advanced economy & Mexico is rapidly growing despite all of their other... problems*
@michaelferriss4594
@michaelferriss4594 Жыл бұрын
France is the best EU member country in my opinion. Better demographics, food surplus, energy surplus, and colonial empire ties. They also in my opinion are one of the top five best militaries in the world. when you think of nations that have food, energy, good demographics and security. France to my understanding conducted the Mali campaign demonstration of force projection, what other militaries can do that? Poland also has great economic growth potential.
@joaquimbarbosa896
@joaquimbarbosa896 Жыл бұрын
Their noecolonialism makes it harder for the EU to engage with african nations. Besides they to have problems, like their pensions and not so good manufacturing sector. Moreover they often times disrupt the EU, like blocking the pipelines from Iberia to Germany through France
@peacockjive6847
@peacockjive6847 Жыл бұрын
It's the addiction to soccer holding you all back.
@mo_3924
@mo_3924 Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as soccer
@peacockjive6847
@peacockjive6847 Жыл бұрын
@Mo_392 yes dear
@261i7
@261i7 10 ай бұрын
it's called football
@omitbadgers5664
@omitbadgers5664 9 ай бұрын
I still can't get my head around this guy is french and speaks english without being held at gunpoint
@IntoEurope
@IntoEurope 9 ай бұрын
The gun is off screen ;)
@dalymaddox8254
@dalymaddox8254 Жыл бұрын
in the uk i dont think this applies (3) because our industry is a heavy service based and financial based ( 20% ish of gdp) with a growing quantinary industry. with a small secoundary and primary industry
@juanmartin1729
@juanmartin1729 Жыл бұрын
It's important for europe to strive for independence in high technology areas, especially considering that they may not have achieved the same level of independence as china did in the 80's in areas such as military, space(their own international station), technology (internet), manufacturing, and economy. It would be great if europe can work towards reaching a level of competitiveness with both china and the usa in this domain.
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 Жыл бұрын
China is not independent LMAO, it needs western technology so that the dirty red communist bandits have what to steal. If the tap gets turned off, China won't have what to steal...except Russian tech...that is already relabelled Chinese tech.
@user-ji3zl4vd9b
@user-ji3zl4vd9b Жыл бұрын
Now subtract Cheap Russian gas and ads the cost of costly LNG to it.. Not a hater, just pointing out the facts here, hopefully Europe turns energy independent using green tech implementations..
@mariacheebandidos7183
@mariacheebandidos7183 Жыл бұрын
every technology china uses is foreign, mostly from the US, so china is very dependent especially on the US. which is why china is so scared of US sanctions.
@disposabull
@disposabull 10 ай бұрын
European Space Agency pays into the international space station, has it's own independent launch capabilities, it's own satellite networks etc If you add up the military spending of the EU & UK, it's more than China spends in USD terms. But our militaries are much better. For example planes are only allowed to take off from any of China's aircraft carriers if there is an alternate landing site available. China can't yet do night landings or bad weather landings on a carrier, making them effectively useless. UK, France, Spain and Italy can all design, build and operate their own carriers and have a century of experience with them.
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 10 ай бұрын
@@user-ji3zl4vd9b Qatar, Azerbaijan and Algeria also exist. Russia isn't the only one producing gas.
@tobiwan001
@tobiwan001 Жыл бұрын
I would also want to point out that productivity in Northern Europe including France and Germany are roughly the same as the US and barely lost any ground. The eurozone crisis mainly hit southern Europe, Brexit blew the Uk apart (although they had a productivity problem before) and Eastern Europe is catching up, but from a much lower level. So it is a mixed. The US is currently above the potential GDP growth through a decade of massive deficit spending.
@tobiwan001
@tobiwan001 Жыл бұрын
@Jeffrey Dick it’s not that easy. It easier to finance deficits when you borrow in in your own currency. Most of the developed world does that. It is even easier when you have a widely used reserve currency. The US roughly makes up 55% of holdings while the euro makes up 25%. So theoretically the US can borrow more. But that is not necessarily just an advantage. You still must balance money in and outflows and the US was barely keeping up that balance and even if you just borrow in your own country, that still means you still have to balance that eventually by either taxation, inflation or simply stealing from the capital owners. So far investors money has kept flowing in without too much dividends flowing out. So far investors bought bonds and the new investors covered the interest on existing debt. At some point the debt buildup has at least to slow down significantly.
@tobiwan001
@tobiwan001 Жыл бұрын
@Jeffrey Dick borrowing is not a bad thing. But there is a borrowing too much. On your description of the functioning of the fed I disagree. That is legally correct but economically irrelevant. And it is not unique. The Swiss Central Bank is not owned by the government and you can even buy shares. The German government does not borrow either and it does not issue the bonds. It’s done through and agency. It’s economic effect is similar. I think most economist agree that the US overdid the deficit spending during Covid. Which was hard to estimate. So that’s not a blame. But you can see that growth was above potential growth, inflation spiked and the savings rate turned negative after an unusually high savings rate during covid. If you now have a prolonged downturn and higher interest that could serious eventually. Not in terms of a collapse those fears are IMO overblown but in the form of a prolonged reduction in potential growth.
@DavidZinselmeier
@DavidZinselmeier Жыл бұрын
you are wrong about productivity. Didn't you listen? When you work 10 hours less a week, it kills productivity in anyone's economy
@user-su5ws4nc2g
@user-su5ws4nc2g Жыл бұрын
​@Jeffrey Dick fed is a central bank as well as other central banks that are not controlled by their government and are independent like the judiciary but chairman employed by the government. fed name is not the central bank because americans hate that name. It's not a central bank in name, but it's exactly the same role as other central banks and how it works.
@jotteredits
@jotteredits Жыл бұрын
@@DavidZinselmeier productivity in economics is defined as output per unit time. Therefore it is not affected by how long you work for.
@ParameterGrenze
@ParameterGrenze Жыл бұрын
Your stuff is good. Feed algorithm, feeeed
@rasmuswhitehorn5240
@rasmuswhitehorn5240 Жыл бұрын
Americas coping mechanism for having low HDI is corporate-esque KZfaq videos with twice as large a budget for graphics compared to research.
@wussrestbrook1200
@wussrestbrook1200 Жыл бұрын
Euro cope for getting paid 20k is their precious hdi which france has the same of idaho lol face reality
@aym9246
@aym9246 Жыл бұрын
US and China have the highest GDPs with the most competitive tech and electronics giants, Europe on other hands has the best quality of life: the life expectancy, the human development index, the happiness index, the democracy index, the consumer rights, the data privacy protection, the freedom of movement, the free healthcare and education, workers rights... You have to choose between capitalism and socialism, private companies vs citizens...
@ilynomad
@ilynomad Жыл бұрын
"You have to choose between capitalism and socialism" no, you don't. Europe is capitalist.
@aym9246
@aym9246 Жыл бұрын
It is indeed capitalist but moderatly compared to USA
@ilynomad
@ilynomad Жыл бұрын
@@aym9246 US employs a perverted version of capitalism. It's almost corporatism.
@oluwaseyijohnson3162
@oluwaseyijohnson3162 Жыл бұрын
@@aym9246 it is just as capitalist just with more social programs
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
@@aym9246 US has similar living standards as the EU, similar life expectancy, similar happiness index, similar democracy index, similar consumer rights, better freedom of movements, similar workers rights. It's behind in data privacy(kinda), free healthcare and education though. So the US is similar or ahead in most respects while still maintaining higher growth and maintaining its global share of GDP to boot. The US is the middle ground between China and the EU, and is why its arguably doing better than both.
@LCTesla
@LCTesla Жыл бұрын
GDP is a can of worms... it actually represents the cost of produced goods, which is equated to value under a value theory that considers all costs justified. So if a country overspends on military, education and healthcare (sound familiar?), this shows up as higher GDP. Purchasing power can then be compared and adjusted again, but this is a very contentious process with no single right answer...
@HShango
@HShango Жыл бұрын
That's why I think GDP isn't everything. We shouldn't measure all growth by that
@pedritodeportugal6
@pedritodeportugal6 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@onurturhal6814
@onurturhal6814 Жыл бұрын
Great video mate👍
@onurturhal6814
@onurturhal6814 Жыл бұрын
❤ Form 🇹🇷
@mile_381
@mile_381 Жыл бұрын
​@@onurturhal6814 from
@technojunkie123
@technojunkie123 Жыл бұрын
I’m shocked, you’re French accent is so subtle when you’re speaking English that I thought you were Irish at first!
@Chocolate-wb1bu
@Chocolate-wb1bu Жыл бұрын
The U.S. also has trillions of dollars more debt than the EU does. Are you really more wealthy if that wealth is borrowed from future generations?
@mile_381
@mile_381 Жыл бұрын
most of their debt is owed to americans so you cant compare those 2 😂The US is always paying off it's debt and always taking on more. That's normal.
@Seventh7Art
@Seventh7Art 8 ай бұрын
GDP per capita is not what matters to citizens. Purchasing Power is what determines how rich you are. What can you buy with what you earn?
@smokeisagoodboy
@smokeisagoodboy Жыл бұрын
Good points covered, Still i find it very vague points, Its already a lost battle.
@doug282
@doug282 Жыл бұрын
It’s not always about GDP. Us Americans can be miserable.
@rudysmith1552
@rudysmith1552 Жыл бұрын
But it doesn’t matter if the long-term prospects of Europe are completely erased
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
Romans were probably miserable as they conquered the Mediterranean, while other societies were happier. Also, Americans aren't exactly miserable when compared to Europeans anyway.
@Amantducafe
@Amantducafe 11 ай бұрын
@@stephenjenkins7971 Debatable
@gontrandjojo9747
@gontrandjojo9747 11 ай бұрын
@@stephenjenkins7971 I still believe the average European has a better life than the average American. The USA is a paradise for rich people, but for middle and lower class it's pretty bad compared to Europe.
@aswinhanagal4293
@aswinhanagal4293 11 ай бұрын
Americans tend to exaggerate how bad things are in the Us
@venmis137
@venmis137 Жыл бұрын
11:26 I assume Britain would also fit in the "France" category somewhat, given the sluggish economy we've had for the last decade.
@venmis137
@venmis137 Жыл бұрын
Fuck I should really watch the video before commenting. Though I wouldn't say that Britain is southern Europe levels yet, though brexit will probably bring it down to that level, the fundamentals of the british economy are (according to my knowledge) more sound than those of the southerners.
@barmybarmecide5390
@barmybarmecide5390 Жыл бұрын
Britain isn't Italy yet, but we've got a worse demographic situation than many northern European countries let alone France, for years have had terrible productivity and GDP growth and have generally suffered from chronic underinvestment in key sectors, including the public sector, and large swathes of the country have been left behind. Brexit really was a coup de grâce, now the City's bleeding firms to New York and Paris, brain drain to greener pastures across the channel and the pond has skyrocketed and we're a smaller diplomatic and economic presence on a world stage that's again shifting towards bloc politique. I'm not saying it's the apocalypse, but definitely we're downgrading from an eminent position as one of Europe's big 3 to a position that Italy now occupies
@barmybarmecide5390
@barmybarmecide5390 Жыл бұрын
@@venmis137 you're right tho about our economy's fundamentals being in a sounder position than Spain's or Italy's, but our metrics are trending in a pretty grim direction and Spain's (and most of Southern Europe's) are generally improving across the board
@williamthebonquerer9181
@williamthebonquerer9181 Жыл бұрын
​@@barmybarmecide5390 the UK has the lowest medium age in northern Europe and arguably the least bad demographic situation in all of Europe
@williamthebonquerer9181
@williamthebonquerer9181 Жыл бұрын
​@@barmybarmecide5390 Italies GDP was bigger in 2012 than in 2022. The UK Would have to be having a recession for a decade straight to reach Italy levels
@mariussavatier4155
@mariussavatier4155 Жыл бұрын
As a Frenchman, I feel that ambition is not sufficiently rewarded here. Incentives do not encourage risk-taking and hard work and ultimately do not lead to innovation as in the US.
@aeuropeannotbritish7754
@aeuropeannotbritish7754 Жыл бұрын
A FR**SH PERSON!!!!🇩🇪
@semaph0re
@semaph0re Жыл бұрын
if you are skilled it is best to escape France, or any of the other high tax western EU countries. You can try eastern europe, where taxes are low and your efforts are rewarded - or move to the US.
@Henry-teach-Chinese-in-jokes
@Henry-teach-Chinese-in-jokes 8 ай бұрын
I like watching various viewpoints to try to make comprehensive understanding of the world and ourselves. I hope more people can learn Chinese to get comprehensive firsthand information about China and seek more job opportunities. Know yourself as well as your partners, competitors, adversaries…..
@ckr3167
@ckr3167 Жыл бұрын
As an American, I’m really surprised. We’re constantly hearing how Europe is better in every conceivable way.
@Chris-pq3wp
@Chris-pq3wp Жыл бұрын
Economically Europe is far behind the USA. The continent is reliant on legacy brands. There are very few start ups and large tech companies as Europe is not entrepreneurial and penalises success
@ckr3167
@ckr3167 Жыл бұрын
@@Chris-pq3wp interesting. Hopefully EU and US can learn from each other on what to do and what not to do.
@jameshenry6855
@jameshenry6855 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't read into this analysis too much. HDI/life expectancy is lower in USA than Europe. GDP means very little.
@williamthebonquerer9181
@williamthebonquerer9181 Жыл бұрын
​@@jameshenry6855 when you say Europe do you mean France or Albania? And when you say the USA do you mean Maine or Louisiana?
@fjuvo
@fjuvo Жыл бұрын
@@williamthebonquerer9181 You compare the average. And the comparison is between the US and the EU. Not Europe vs North America
@Kevin-fq3zh
@Kevin-fq3zh Жыл бұрын
OMG the thumbnail!! hahaha 😆😆😆
@TomerCohenillumenati
@TomerCohenillumenati Жыл бұрын
Not European nor an American, but this was really interesting to hear. Well done!
@MichaelWilliams-nh3hv
@MichaelWilliams-nh3hv 9 ай бұрын
You left out the defense component. Europe must address this critical sector (defense) which will impact other sectors coverd in this report.
@aanchaallllllll
@aanchaallllllll 8 ай бұрын
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@goddesssalem4842
@goddesssalem4842 4 ай бұрын
Europe is nothing but a puppet state to the US. Don't ever get it confused
@Hession0Drasha
@Hession0Drasha Жыл бұрын
Language barriers preventing ease of crossborder employment, is definitely the biggest barrier to competition with the usa. That's why northern european countries appear to have such an advantage, it's their command of the english language.
@Siranoxz
@Siranoxz Жыл бұрын
That is why the EU is advocating to standardize English among EU countries.
@thundurr
@thundurr Жыл бұрын
@jko jko most jobs where? "northern languages"??
@Vincrand
@Vincrand Жыл бұрын
@@thundurr In northern countries I guess.
@jonharrison3114
@jonharrison3114 Жыл бұрын
@@thundurr I don’t think you read all the comments lol
@ArnoutVanhulle
@ArnoutVanhulle 4 ай бұрын
Amazing video! However, I think you can add Belgium to the category of France, looking at its debt.
@Spirit-dg5xi
@Spirit-dg5xi Жыл бұрын
Well done
@Menelvagorothar
@Menelvagorothar Жыл бұрын
If we measure development just by GDP, then we can se a problem. If we allow ourselves to percieve development also in metrics other then GDP, then the perspective can change. Measured by HDI, the EU is already better than the US, let alone if we use inequality adjusted HDI. I think that the EU has overall a different perception of what is welfare and we should not strive to become a copy of the US, because we might not like it in the end and it might not fit with our values and conceprtions of welfare.
@oluwaseyijohnson3162
@oluwaseyijohnson3162 Жыл бұрын
HDI of United States is .921 HDI of EU is .891
@finflop8276
@finflop8276 Жыл бұрын
@@oluwaseyijohnson3162 Should probably check what countries come after the US in HDI and how many of them are European.
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
@@finflop8276 We're talking about the EU as a whole, though. You can't pick and choose, lest we start talking about individual US States which blow apart most European nations.
@finflop8276
@finflop8276 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenjenkins7971 Wouldn't exactly call it fair to compare the US HDI directly to the average HDI value across EU nations. Specially since countries in the EU come from so different backgrounds and starting points. You will for example note that some of the most poorly performing countries come from the Balkans, which can be mainly credited to suffering cause by the Yugoslav Wars. My point here however is to argue that European countries that have had decently long history of stability and freedom. Have been HDI wise doing rather well despite the European decline in GDP.
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
@@finflop8276 OP is the one that started talking about GDP and HDI between the US and EU, I'm not the one that made that first comparison.
@Christophe.C
@Christophe.C Жыл бұрын
Very informative information! Un grand merci!
@humbugswangkerton9972
@humbugswangkerton9972 9 ай бұрын
Simple: not unified (less efficient governance), less hours worked, and still the residue affects of WW2/Coldwar (smashed up and lost market share to North America which is very difficult to get back). An aging population doesn't help plus less access to natural resources (Russia not reliable and other sources farther away)
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