Intro to Crosstalk and demo (Japanese/Polish, complete beginners)

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7 жыл бұрын

Explanation of Crosstalk and demonstration.
I demo Crosstalk with my friend Kamil, I speak Japanese, my friend speaks his native Polish.
We are both complete beginners and started the conversation with virtually zero knowledge of the other person's language.
Crosstalk is a way of doing language exchange, in which each partner speaks only the language that the other person is learning.
It's more efficient than regular languages exchanges, less stressful, allows you to pay more attention, can be used to start learning a language from zero, and is generally just a lot of fun.
To learn more about Crosstalk, you can read my blog post about it:
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@Cypekeh 4 жыл бұрын

Watching this as a Pole learning Japanese was really fun.

@TheJoshuaMatos 3 жыл бұрын

My mind is blown right now. I've been a bit skeptical of "comprehensible input" with respect to foregoing more traditional methods. Though I still have reservations in terms of the "comprehensible input" methodology being the best for everyone, this video motivates me to fully incorporate the method in both learning and teaching languages. Thank you so much for backing up what you teach. I clearly have much to learn!

@chickpease Ай бұрын

Why skeptical? This is how we all learn our native language/s.

@siphomlambo9534 4 ай бұрын

Pablo it feels really strange hearing you in English. I have done over 200 hrs on DS and I am so used to hearing you in Spanish. Thanks for the wonderful work you have done with your team. I have progressed so fast using the "natural way" - acquisition

@driftingpaperboat 3 жыл бұрын

I believe in this method! When I was little I listened to my mom's family speaking their dialect a lot, and I can speak it even though I never tried to speak a word of it before. I'm looking for a cross talk partner who speaks Spanish or Japanese, I speak English and Chinese, if anyone's interested let me know.

@chester6685 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, Have you found a partner yet? I'm learning Chinese and I'm interested in this method, I speak Spanish. Let me know if you’re interested...

@brandongarcia2765 5 ай бұрын

It never occurred to me that there are METHODS of doing language exchange. So this is pure gold to me.

@stevencarr4002 3 жыл бұрын

Your English accent is very good.

@rock1803 Жыл бұрын

実際のCrossTalkのやり方が、とても参考になりました。実際に試してみます。ありがとうパブロ。

@amyaccount7935 Жыл бұрын

This reminds me of the conversations i had with a guest when i was 8yo. She did not speak anythink other than chinese, just VERY little english, and I could only speak german, hello, Thank you and sorry in english. We drew pictures of trees or a house or dog, and try to understand But this looks way cooler and way more fun! Would love to try it :))

@lauraaxelsen6128 3 жыл бұрын

Love it! I have also read the blog explanation. Let's say you start this way with a new language. How often do you suggest meeting with your cross-talk partner? What happens as far as your learning of the language? Do you then remember certain words and then go study other methods and the other methods and the cross-talk reinforce each other? Do you remember more and more words as you continue cross talking? At some point do you start speaking your target language?

@pabloroman1 3 жыл бұрын

Do it as much as you can! At least an average of 1h a day is good to see progress. Crosstalk doesn't require you to use other methods. It is enough to acquire vocabulary, grammar and pronunciation. Sooner or later you will also want to get other sources of input, though, since there's quite a bit of vocabulary that doesn't usually come up in regular conversation. Also, you will need to read a lot if you want to be able to read fast and to learn how to spell.

@dan3696 Жыл бұрын

You know Kamil?!? I met the dude not even two months ago in Izmir. Small world! 😂

@timothyrice1621 2 жыл бұрын

Cuando volvera la barba?

@tsuchan 4 жыл бұрын

I'm enthused by the idea of Crosstalk, but I'm concerned it requires a kind of learning skill I don't have. For all the drawings, I could pick-out very little meaning from the Polish words Kamil said, even while understanding almost every word Pablo was saying. When I did, it was with some big clue. For example around 19:15 Kamil points to a snowflake and says 'śnieg' pointing to the snowflake Pablo had been drawing for some seconds. I got that one because it sounds like 'Schnee' in German (which actually is the word as I heard it) and because of the snowflake Pablo was drawing, and because I already understood what Pablo was saying. But my impression is that Pablo was understanding hugely more from the conversation than I was. Whereas, around 28:48 Kamil starts drawing a snowboard next to the guy skiing. Pablo understands and says something like 'ka bolga' (?) that I didn't recognise in Ja/Es/En and I was completely lost while K&P seemed to understand each other well. Watching the session, I realised it needs skills of being able to instantly encapsulate an idea in a very simple illustration, and of instinctive body-language gestures I've never developed (perhaps even culturally learned to suppress). And at the same time as my CPU is busy with both of these, try to focus on the meaning of the unknown language. I'm at the same time enthusiastic about the promise, but doubtful I could do it. Anyway, I'm going to try to find someone to try it out with. Although probably not in languages where either of us are ab initio.

@pabloroman1 4 жыл бұрын

When we were talking about skiing I actually said: スキー…かボードか？ That said, such a small thing doesn't need to throw you off! There was very little meaning really communicated by that question, it was actually just me throwing a guess at the question that Kamil was asking. Maybe you are expecting to understand many of the words? It's not like that at all at the beginning. I picked up almost zero meaning from the actual words that Kamil said. I relied on his drawings, and what seems reasonable for the current context, and always allow a great deal of ambiguity and uncertainty to be present. You need to focus on what you are understanding, and ignore all the noise and all the things that are not important for understanding the message. To communicate by drawing is certaintly a skill. You can get better at it by practicing Crosstalk, but also by watching Dreaming Spanish videos, or other videos by people who follow my style.

@tsuchan 4 жыл бұрын

@@pabloroman1 Ahhh. Got it now. Thanks! (In fact I'm really bad at hearing skills... I can even hear conversations or songs in my own languages for minutes before I gradually realise their in English.) Anyway, thanks for your advice. I am going to give Crosstalk a try as soon as I can arrange a session with someone. By the way, it was really great to hear you speaking Japanese... just like being with a long-time friend.

@driftingpaperboat 3 жыл бұрын

@@tsuchan I want to find a cross talk partner too. I speak English and Chinese, am learning Japanese. Let me know if you're interested 🙂

@tsuchan 3 жыл бұрын

@@driftingpaperboat Well, Japanese is L2 for me: you'd be better with a native Japanese cross-talk partner. (Plus, I'm learning Spanish at the moment, and sometimes say Spanish words in Japanese, and Japanese words in Spanish... 😳.) But lots of luck with your Japanese. It's my favourite language. ❤️

@driftingpaperboat 3 жыл бұрын

@@tsuchan oh I see! Thanks. Yeah I often mix up japanese and Spanish too lol. All the best in your language journey:)

@adei17 Жыл бұрын

hay algún video donde se ejemplifique el crosstalk con dos aprendices que tengan un nivel A1 o A2, quizás B1?

@NOmad847 3 жыл бұрын

こんばんは!コロストーク凄く面白いですよ！PabloさんのDreaming Spanishというのはチャンネルで始めて見つけたけど、今まで一度も見たことがない! Pabloさんは今どれくらいの言語で話せられるんですか。

@MystaHector 3 жыл бұрын

It seems like you have a fake beard :P Or like you were stuck on a desert island :D Either way I love your Spanish videos :) I am also Polish and learning Spanish

@apostolic7rox 4 жыл бұрын

I'm struggling with finding a language partner. Every person wants to practice speaking their English and want me to practice Spanish (or whatever language I'm learning at the moment). I try to explain it but....maybe they just don't want to or think it won't work for them? What would you suggest for how I should approach this?

@pabloroman1 4 жыл бұрын

I always explain how I want to do it before I meet with people. Around half the people are okay with doing crosstalk. Some people still tell me that I should practice speaking, but I tell them that it works for me and that I've done it before multiple times and they usually accept that. Are you living in an English-speaking country? Maybe the people you find already have a high level of English? You could try looking for people with a lower level of English.

@apostolic7rox 4 жыл бұрын

@@pabloroman1 Thanks! I also shared this video to hopefully clarify it. I think people assume Crosstalk and Language Exchange are synonymous when they are not.

@xsoccerdork 4 жыл бұрын

Hey there! I'm a native English speaker from the States and would be glad to try out Crosstalk with you!

@xsoccerdork 4 жыл бұрын

Oh oops! I see you're probably looking for a NON-English speaker.

@apostolic7rox 4 жыл бұрын

@@xsoccerdork Yes, you're correct lol.

@Malaestro Жыл бұрын

Do you still use this at an intermediate or advanced level? I speak Italian every day with my partner but I also want to level up my listening skills, do you reckon crosstalk with some non- fluent English speakers could actually be more beneficial, potentially? I guess sometimes I use speaking as a way of avoiding listening (out of fear of not understanding), so I might get a lot out of the Crosstalk.

@Mihai_9999 Жыл бұрын

Crosstalking is doable at any stage and it’s the best activity you can do, at any stage.

@tommys234 Жыл бұрын

Hey Pablo! I was wondering what some of your methods for finding crosstalk partners are, and if you had any tips on doing crosstalk virtually while keeping it as comprehensible as possible?

@smorrow 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I don't get how you're supposed to find people. Whatever people you could do it with, they're IN your country, meaning they already speak your language. It's asymmetrical.

@JordiRosell Ай бұрын

D'això els catalans en sabem força. Una cosa, i fer-ho al revés? Vull dir, ambdós parlant el "target language".

@Elias-xx5ff Жыл бұрын

Also say I live in Texas and want to learn Spanish via crosstalk, but most people I know already know English and Spanish very well, and I know English very well but spanish not really even at an A1 level, will that still work?

@bryanalejandrofigueroagarz8633 8 ай бұрын

Hey, if you are still interested in learning spanish, I could help you, I am from México, I would love to try the crosstalk method, I am good at reading in english (Maybe around B2), but writing I am like (A2) and speaking and listening I would be like A1 and A2 respectively, what do you think about it ? we could practice together.

@Elias-xx5ff 8 ай бұрын

@@bryanalejandrofigueroagarz8633 hello!! I haven’t been practicing cross talk for awhile, I stopped because I felt it wasn’t helping me a lot as a beginner, which I still am in Spanish. I am still trying to learn though. I don’t really follow the DS dogma as much anymore. I would still say I’m A1 in everything. No puedo hacer mucho con espanol. No puedo leer, hablar, escribir, o escuchar y entender muy bien. Tengo mucho cosas que necesito trabajar en.

@bryanalejandrofigueroagarz8633 8 ай бұрын

@@Elias-xx5ff I understand, maybe if you are willing , we could just práctice using another method

@Elias-xx5ff 8 ай бұрын

@@bryanalejandrofigueroagarz8633 what did you have in mind? There isn’t much I’m able to do, I haven’t done speaking practice at all so there isn’t much I’m capable of doing, right now I just listen to beginner content and study vocab.

@bryanalejandrofigueroagarz8633 8 ай бұрын

@@Elias-xx5ff we can práctice basic vocabulary together (i.e. things like water/agua dog/perro so we would be doing basic pronunciation with a native)

@TuomasLeone Жыл бұрын

This was asked below, but not yet answered so I'm bumping it up in hopes that you see this Pablo. I too wonder about this working with someone who's already fluent in your native language. I'm just starting my Spanish language learning journey but Engish is my native language and most people I have access to are already very fluent. Can this still work? Thanks and I'm enjoying your super beginner videos!

@MisterGames Жыл бұрын

Watch a video by Dr brown using something similar for Arabic. Instead of the arabic speaker drawing, he had them talk about and explain existing images from magazines, kids books and so on. He brought the books in for them. He did a lot of his initial few hundred hours like this. After he did normal exchanges but still wanted them to explain drawings and other images to him. ... He now uses simple stories to teach spanish and has many videos on youtube of him doing it.

@EOTS105 10 ай бұрын

@@MisterGames Can you send a link? I couldn't the videos you're talking about

@smorrow 7 ай бұрын

Yeah I don't get how this is supposed to go when the two people are at different levels.

@vitaliys5234 Жыл бұрын

Прикольно слушать польский, зная русский)

@El-Camino-de-Matteo Жыл бұрын

ISO crosstalk spanish partner who wants to learn english I am having a very hard time finding a partner for this, and any potential partners do not understand the method and I lack proficiency in their language to explain it properly.. Any tips on how to find a partner? Is there an instructional video in spanish or with spanish subtitles that I can refer my potential partners to?

@ania3827 Жыл бұрын

Hi, are you still looking for a partner? English is not my native language, but my level is somewhere in between B2/C1, so if you're still interested I'd love to speak with you - as you might have assumed I'm learning Spanish, but similarly to you, I have trouble finding the right partner. My accent is not flawless, you can hear in the pronunciation of some words that I am a foreigner, but I speak clearly hence don't think it will be an issue, and if so we won't have to continue:) let me know what you think!

@El-Camino-de-Matteo Жыл бұрын

@@ania3827 hello. I am trying to learn Spanish. What is your level, approximately?

@bryanalejandrofigueroagarz8633 8 ай бұрын

@@El-Camino-de-Matteo Hey, I am from Mexico, I could help you to learn spanish, we could do the crosstalk method

@JayHines1005 7 ай бұрын

⁠@@ania3827Ania, I am learning Spanish as well and I am a native English speaker. Let me know if you would be interested in trying something like this.

@coolitdown Ай бұрын

OK... I'm gonna be that person... That beard... 🥵

@dodgingcars 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Pablo, I'm not sure if you will see this. I'm interested in finding a Crosstalk partner for learning Spanish. I live in Los Angeles, so I know plenty of Spanish speakers in real life. However, they are all fluent English speakers. Will this method still work when one of the speakers is already fluent in the other language? I'd like to ask some friends/family to see if they would be willing to do this with me -- but I realize they won't really benefit from the experience (they already know English). I assume that as long as they are willing, this method should still work, correct?

@followtheenglish 10 ай бұрын

It will work. Try it. :) I have a crosstalk partner now where she speaks Spanish, and I speak English. She knows English, so I am the only one getting any benefit from it. I am now at the advanced level, so no need for drawings.

@elanovaia6455 Жыл бұрын

Hi! Maybe somebody who speak Spanish want to learn Russian from zero?? Let's Crosstalk!!

@bryanalejandrofigueroagarz8633 8 ай бұрын

I am from Mexico (Native spanish), I would love to learn russian, Crosstalk would be pretty cool.

@unknown-otter 27 күн бұрын

Asking the same thing! I'm on intermediate Spanish level, if someone catched up their Russian to at least a beginner level with Elena, then let's do a crosstalk, haha!