Introduction to the Rosicrucian Order AMORC

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RosicrucianTV

10 жыл бұрын

The rosicrucians are a community of philosophers who study natural laws in order to live in harmony with them. www.rosicrucian.org
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@juneahernauthor
@juneahernauthor 10 жыл бұрын
A well explained and attractive presentation. I am happy I made the decision to join. What my studies have offered me are invaluable as a citizen of this world and a spirit of the Universe. So Mote it Be.
@rosadebraun2183
@rosadebraun2183 10 жыл бұрын
I really love the images, the sound and the vibration that this sound produces. The video is a mass of peaceful energy. I congratulate all the Fratres and Sorores that participated in the elaboration of it. Great job!!
@hermanzweering258
@hermanzweering258 7 жыл бұрын
Its a so important massage in our days where people are deeply divided; in essence we are all connected. The Order gives you the oppertunity to experience this connection in your self.
@judyjewett
@judyjewett 10 жыл бұрын
The video gave a wonderful explanation of The Rosicrucian.
@SuperQueenBee45
@SuperQueenBee45 10 жыл бұрын
Glad to be member of AMORC.
@herbernst7611
@herbernst7611 10 жыл бұрын
It is fitting that this succinct, informative video opens with "Claire de Lune" -- music composed by Rosicrucian composer Claude Debussy. Good choice!
@miahamilton-smith6090
@miahamilton-smith6090 10 жыл бұрын
Profound love and blessings
@paulinecrespin6712
@paulinecrespin6712 10 жыл бұрын
AN EXCELLENT AND COMMON SENSE VIDEO. THANK YOU AND PEACE PROFOUND.
@bluedan82
@bluedan82 10 жыл бұрын
after a lot of looking around at different esoteric orders, i believe i am ready to seek out an involvement with the rosicrucians. once i finish my own personal readings i look forward to making contact with this group n my area. let me just say, it's not easy seeking out a legit mystery school, there are so many fakers out there, but i feel like the RC is one of the more trustworthy groups.
@TheCiprianG
@TheCiprianG 9 жыл бұрын
How did you work it out in the end?
@rafaelromaovieira6012
@rafaelromaovieira6012 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Peace Profound!
@MCSEknight
@MCSEknight 10 жыл бұрын
This was a very nicely done video and very informative. I've often been asked; "who are the Rosicrucians, and what do they do"? This video will make it a great deal easier to answer those questions. Thank you for your work and service!
@pro-py6dn
@pro-py6dn 8 жыл бұрын
om doing a research for socities and you helped me a little bit
@JennyLeeTours
@JennyLeeTours 10 жыл бұрын
Well done! thank you!!
@lia49
@lia49 10 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@gillesasselin5691
@gillesasselin5691 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this excellent, down to earth (so to speak!) video. I especially like the variety of speakers. Happy New Year!
@johnleyba5315
@johnleyba5315 7 жыл бұрын
thank you soo much for this wonderful facts of knowledge. a true blessing
@AmyDitolla
@AmyDitolla 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice introduction to our beloved order!
@TheGuardiansecurity
@TheGuardiansecurity 10 жыл бұрын
Peace Profound!
@josehormazabal1465
@josehormazabal1465 8 жыл бұрын
Just became a member
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC 8 жыл бұрын
+jose hormazabal We are thrilled to welcome you into the Rosicrucian Order AMORC!
@richierichardson3616
@richierichardson3616 7 жыл бұрын
+RosicrucianTV i would love to become a member
@elyonael-rae7741
@elyonael-rae7741 7 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video. Thanks
@MrAndrew535
@MrAndrew535 10 жыл бұрын
Additional: Therefore given this is the definition of choice, how then, can we either identify the mystic or the product of mystical experiences. To that end one ought to draw one's attention to the operative word in this definition which is “knowing”. Therefore, the mystic accordingly would be an individual who at any given moment or era produces previously undiscovered knowledge in any given fields of intellectual inquiry, more specifically through means other than conventional, or through independent abstraction that tradition would not permit. Mysticism is often synonymous with the term “mysterious” or mystery, which could be characterized as a linguistic fracture resulting (from a historical perspective at least) in religious, philosophical and scientific incongruity. As one might expect, when one applies this definition to the history and development of mysticism, it is not difficult to see that it has become exponentially less mysterious, (as should be the case in the evolution of an intelligent species) Ironically enough largely due to mystics. This definition presents a number of questions among which are, under what other names are mystics recognised or accepted, even though contemporaries may not apply that specific term. I would suggest genius, prophet to name but two, and I would also stress, with no causative factors associated with their respective institutions, for reasons which can be examined in detail in another piece. This is not to suggest that the mystic possess exclusive ability, on the contrary. Such would be as much a product of all progress intervals which preceded them as much as the higher brain function with which they selectively engage. Incidentally, higher brain function and training is quite simply a contradiction in terms whether a tradesman or professional. No amount of politeness is going to change that fact. All one can do is recognise the fact if one is to progress.
@RyanScarbrough
@RyanScarbrough 8 жыл бұрын
Wow!! This looks incredible. Signed up. Thank you.
@cashholiday8911
@cashholiday8911 7 жыл бұрын
are there any churches in san diego? I only saw oceanside but thats almost an hour away.
@endwatcher
@endwatcher 9 жыл бұрын
Can someone comment on whats different from all the orders "C+R, AMROC, etc..etc" and if you chose a different group other than AMORC, why?
@MartinBittner
@MartinBittner 8 жыл бұрын
+endwatcher From my own experience: AMORC is authentic Rosicrucian order. From reading: CR+C is also fine. They have the same roots. AMORC has publications written in modern language (good for foreigners like me), CR + C uses the original publication, written in older English. The differences are most likely cosmetic. You can try both if you want.
@pharaohegyptian4245
@pharaohegyptian4245 8 жыл бұрын
I am Egyptian and I have been visited in my dream any times by a Pharaoh which i figured out later that he looks like Akhenatonand told me find the it is a rose in the cross, you gotta find it! I am searching for the Rose in the cross since a while and it leaded me here :D but i still do not understand anything about anything and I dont know what is rose and what is the relation between the rose and the cross and is this roiscrucian thing..can someone help or explain me anything?
@illuminatioracle
@illuminatioracle 9 жыл бұрын
2:28 black jeff goldblum
@seshatshaman1014
@seshatshaman1014 9 жыл бұрын
"Seshat opens the door of heaven for you" - Spell 10 of the coffin texts.
@JQUICK21
@JQUICK21 8 жыл бұрын
There is no place Heaven. That is simply a state of being. Heaven, Hell, Satan, Devil, Adam and Eve are all stories that were spoken of to educate dummies about spiritual truths.....I am sure you know this and maybe you are questioning this statement you quoted and wanting to know why they say such things.
@whitestar49
@whitestar49 9 жыл бұрын
How does this Rosicrucian Order AMORC differ from the Rosicrucian fellowship in Oceanside Calif???? I am very curious to have this questions answered by a smart mystic, both sound good , but I have been more familiar with the Oceanside group & got the Book Cosmo Conception from my Mom , who got that book from the Oceanside group , is there a difference between theses 2 groups of Rosicrucian's ???
@yousuck4012
@yousuck4012 9 жыл бұрын
+whitestar49 RF is a Esoteric Christian based order as opposed to AMORC which is the re-boot of Rosicrucianism, the original society.
@JQUICK21
@JQUICK21 8 жыл бұрын
Christian based order? Somebody here asked the people who posted this video why a member must sear an oath on the bible and they got no response. Anything christian or of or from the bible is something I will run away from as fast as I can......but we don't know about these people here because they have not taken the time to answer such things......
@mrp3066
@mrp3066 8 жыл бұрын
cheer up guys ;)
@CarmenMolanes
@CarmenMolanes 9 жыл бұрын
ts very important carmen fron spain
@Lamborafa
@Lamborafa 8 жыл бұрын
They keep saying we, are they part of it🤔🤔🤔
@evcorchado
@evcorchado 9 жыл бұрын
By the way the link to join says Page doesn't exist :/
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC 9 жыл бұрын
enrique velez The link appears to be working correctly now. Thank you so much for letting us know.
@evcorchado
@evcorchado 9 жыл бұрын
+RosicrucianTV I live near Quakertown, PA. Are you in any way affiliated with the Rosicrucian order temple that's there? Or are they a different one?
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC 9 жыл бұрын
+enrique velez Here is information on AMORC Rosicrucian groups in PA: sites.google.com/a/amorc.rosicrucian.org/pennsylvaniarosicrucians/
@Arawashj
@Arawashj 9 жыл бұрын
Onzin
@carolforman1233
@carolforman1233 9 жыл бұрын
If you want the Truth, Jesus is the Truth! Get a revelation of Him and He will set you Free!
@DackLazy
@DackLazy 9 жыл бұрын
Carol Forman santa claus is better
@3maord
@3maord 10 жыл бұрын
I joined AMORC in 1964 or about 50 years ago. I like this post, nothing has changed. What were said here are things that were said since decades ago.
@julirensch
@julirensch 10 жыл бұрын
My journey to the portals of Rosicrucianism began in 2012...my only regret is that I did not begin sooner! Observer Jules
@CorporateLady1
@CorporateLady1 10 жыл бұрын
Well done video. I'm very glad to be a Rosicrucian. I've learned so much over the years, and still learning. I'm on the right path, as we say a Rosicrucian is a walking question mark.
@leofiorenzo1074
@leofiorenzo1074 9 жыл бұрын
"He who descends below must have balance."
@carelynrayne2369
@carelynrayne2369 10 жыл бұрын
As a long time member I am quite pleased, its a lovely video. So happy for the freedom of the internet an KZfaq. What a blessing! Gratitude.
@MaestroAntares
@MaestroAntares 10 жыл бұрын
Much better than some of the previous videos. Much greater production value. H. Spencer Lewis was a firm believer in the power of the moving image to present and explain metaphysical concepts and teachings. Perhaps some of the older productions could be digitized and shared. I can remember seeing them at the old NYC Lodge quite a few years ago. Ralph Lewis lead many expeditions to sacred places with a film crew in tow. That's one tradition that should be revived as well. I'd gladly offer my services to the English GL if required.
@AMORCGLE
@AMORCGLE 10 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for this excellent video. Fraternal greetings from the Spanish Grand Lodge. Peace Profound.
@azardb
@azardb 10 жыл бұрын
A real blessing to be a member of the Order, eternal gratitude for serving and receiving the fruits of the Devine.
@jesterdekay
@jesterdekay 10 жыл бұрын
I’m glad this video has been made to expose more people to learning what it’s about. I also enjoy how it was edited.
@Axelrodenz
@Axelrodenz 10 жыл бұрын
The events of daily life takes us away from that inner peace and consciousness, and this re-introduction takes us into that sublime aura of an intelligent existence. Make this like a daily presentation and atonement for us Rosicrucians, by an "Alert" to our IPod, Android, Cell etc!
@joelsellers3470
@joelsellers3470 10 жыл бұрын
Has given me a great inner peace and made me more conscious of the cosmos, and the natural nature around all things. Great Video. Peace Profound be with you-all.
@evcorchado
@evcorchado 9 жыл бұрын
I'm always doing research on ancient history and their beliefs so I find this Order very interesting, thanks for this intro! :)
@Lourdesmz
@Lourdesmz 10 жыл бұрын
Peace Profound... Light, Life, and Love.
@hhgordon
@hhgordon 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video == beautiful explanation of Rosicrucian beliefs and goals, nicely photographed.
@Travis_Tr
@Travis_Tr 10 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Thank you!
@inggalese
@inggalese 10 жыл бұрын
Thank for posting this video.
@jamierichard3129
@jamierichard3129 10 жыл бұрын
Blessings of Divine Love to All Life Everywhere
@soulstitchgaming
@soulstitchgaming 10 жыл бұрын
This makes sense to me. Complete sense.
@elviseric
@elviseric 10 жыл бұрын
HI Excellent presentation, great video.
@Sbranashotokan
@Sbranashotokan 10 жыл бұрын
Paz Profunda!
@anaemiabag
@anaemiabag 10 жыл бұрын
i have alot of respect and reverence for this.
@lindacaldwell9017
@lindacaldwell9017 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video......
@MrAndrew535
@MrAndrew535 10 жыл бұрын
Whenever one puts pen to paper or draws breath to communicate with another, one must always and without exception, define ones terms precisely, coherently and with respect to a consistent and demonstrable frame of reference. Using these principles I would offer for consideration, a brief critique of the above AMORC video presentation, starting with a term with which I have had most experience and exposure, which is the concept of the mystic or mysticism. The most intelligent. indeed the only intelligent definition of mysticism I have encountered to date is simply “the art of knowing”. This definition of mysticism (unlike any other) lends itself perfectly to scientific examination, both from contemporary and historical perspectives.
@user-cd8mp6cm6b
@user-cd8mp6cm6b 9 жыл бұрын
Nice I am member myself.
@MickGoodman
@MickGoodman 10 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. It would be nice to know who it is speaking.
@marcushenson20
@marcushenson20 7 жыл бұрын
What Is the musical piece in the beginning?
@GlennElliottKeller
@GlennElliottKeller 7 жыл бұрын
What about those who, for the sake of argument, do not wish to elevate their consciousness? What happens to them?
@onaziwilsonattah6912
@onaziwilsonattah6912 7 жыл бұрын
I just want to be member to learn about ancient history and know more about the ORDER inorder to gain more light but the problem now is that I won't be able to support the order by paying dues
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Onazi, Most of the Order's publications are available for free here: www.rosicrucian.org/texts. This will give you an excellent foundation in the Rosicrucian teachings, which will help you when you are ready to become a member.
@CateHamad
@CateHamad 10 жыл бұрын
Peace Profound!
@venuspsychic
@venuspsychic 8 жыл бұрын
very interesting
@gerardlefrancois4746
@gerardlefrancois4746 7 жыл бұрын
It is a Great Association of Humans.
@chicchi1682
@chicchi1682 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not mystical/spiritual person at all. But I love learning Ancient Mathematics so are there many booklets in this order dealing with that and we allowed to join other orders in order to get more information on our fields of interest (mine Ancient Egyptian Mathematics)
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Chic Chi, Here is one of our books on mathematics: www.rosicrucian.org/rosicrucian-books-the-universe-of-numbers You can find other publications here: www.rosicrucian.org/texts. And yes, you are welcome to join other orders in addition to AMORC. There is so much to study!
@chicchi1682
@chicchi1682 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your response seems fascinating.Will look into it.
@mitchelleprincess7801
@mitchelleprincess7801 8 жыл бұрын
very interesting,thanks
@jossmaryant3161
@jossmaryant3161 10 жыл бұрын
SUPER VIDEO A+
@josehormazabal1465
@josehormazabal1465 8 жыл бұрын
I live in Casselberry, fl. I 'll would like to know the address to any local group, thanks
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC 8 жыл бұрын
+jose hormazabal Hello Jose, Here is information on all the AMORC groups in Florida: sites.google.com/a/amorc.rosicrucian.org/floridarosicrucians/
@covingtonbp
@covingtonbp 10 жыл бұрын
Can we share this video?
@brendaalleyne5177
@brendaalleyne5177 10 жыл бұрын
Please let me know how I may become a member and begin these studies.
@karenwark
@karenwark 10 жыл бұрын
Hello Brenda, You can apply here: www.rosicrucian.org/about/join We look forward to welcoming you into the Order!
@thomasfree5305
@thomasfree5305 7 жыл бұрын
+RosicrucianTV Hi :) How deep goes the RoseX knowledge/wisdom? Does it goes deeper than; Abrahamic traditions, Hermetic traditions, Sun Worship (before the Egypt 18-19th dynasty)? Im very curious from exactly which direction RoseX originated? Thanks :)
@Hispanam1
@Hispanam1 10 жыл бұрын
I don't hear very well. Therefore, I prefer to read. Much as I wanted to hear all that was spoken, I could not. Is there a place where I can get the text? Thank you for sharing the video; I hope to be able to enjoy soon.
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC 10 жыл бұрын
Hello Daisy, Thank you for reminding us that text is good! We will create a transcript and post it here. In the meantime, you might find this to be a good read: www.rosicrucian.org/rosicrucianism
@alexwelo7775
@alexwelo7775 9 жыл бұрын
RosicrucianTV the link is "broken" i.e., page not found.
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC 9 жыл бұрын
alex welo The link appears to be working correctly now. Thank you so much for letting us know.
@garyhiles
@garyhiles 10 жыл бұрын
I live in Brisbane, Australia and would love to join the order here in Brisbane. Can anyone point me out in the right direction.
@karenwark4795
@karenwark4795 10 жыл бұрын
Hello Gary, Here is information about the Order in Australia: www.amorc.org.au/ We are delighted by your interest in becoming a member!
@garyhiles
@garyhiles 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Karen, I actually found this site the other day and have been put in touch with the order here in Brisbane! Thanks for sharing.
@garyhiles
@garyhiles 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Karen, happy to report that both my wife and I are Rosicrucians and have been since January of 2015.
@karenwark
@karenwark 9 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful Gary! We are so happy to welcome you both into the Order!
@garyhiles
@garyhiles 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Karen
@3762302
@3762302 10 жыл бұрын
Hi, this video is great. First, I want to say that I'm South African and see myself as a Christian. I do like elements of this order so far. However, I'm confused after looking on other pages, and some say it's satanic, or has satanic elements in it, some say it's an occult, but not a religion? it appears that it's totally acceptable by Christians, but to some, it's not. there are odd symbols of the order that looks secretive. and a bit dodgy, if this is a secret society, why is it so easy to join, and there's a website etc? If someone can help with these questions? I'd like to know more about this order. G.T.
@orangeandyoghurt
@orangeandyoghurt 10 жыл бұрын
Hello Gerdes, I had the same questions. I've been a member for several years before I learned that there are actually many orders who call themselves rosicrucian orders and claim to be the original/oldest/what not. I have nothing against other rosicrucian orders per se, but I was shocked when I found out that many of them have aspects and elements which I do not support, e.g. very expensive membership fees and satanic or sexual rituals in the temples. AMORC has nothing to do with those! Consequently, it is important to check the exact name and symbols of the order, so for AMORC the triangle pointing downwards with a loop at the top side and in the triangle a cross with a red rose in the middle. AMORC is not a religion; it encompasses members of all kinds of religions and beliefs and also non-believers. They also make clear that it is also not THE way to gain access to mysticism, but it is A way. So I guess it depends on how narrow and strict your religious beliefs are. If you have a very narrow and strict understanding of your belief, then you might not accept some of the contents. They do follow principles, but nobody tells you what to belief. You are also asked to think critically about the contents and to pick only what you can accept as good for you. So you receive informations - what you do with it is up to you. =) And should you not like it at all, you can cancel the membership at any time. I hope that helps, greetings from Germany! As far as I know you can always email the order nearest to you and ask for more information.
@3762302
@3762302 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support. ich spreche auch Deutsch als mein dritte sprache ;) ok cool, I'm from South Africa Pretoria, and a bit conservative, and read through some of the first monographs, some of it I discard but some are quite interesting. I can keep open mind, but not for everything as I'm a Christian Vielen Dank, G.T.
@burtjames7185
@burtjames7185 9 жыл бұрын
Hello Gerdes, You are wise to inquire first - As you can see from the fanatical attacks on the Order from Henry Tretault above -ignorance, hate and fanaticism runs wide among the ignorant - one example - the hexagram mentioned in his diatribe is an ancient Greek sacred geometry symbol - derived from Pythagoras - Not a masonic one - and for the record, the Nazis killed somewhere between 20- & 60,000 masons, along with Jews in their death camps Secondly the term "Occult" means hidden = like a occult fibia in medicine, or Mars that are occult (hidden) by the moon at a certain stage - fanatics see everything "hidden" as of the devil - poor souls The essence of the mystery schools, is a search for the science of the soul, the integration of the soul and spiritual growth. Unfortunately the ill-educated do not perceive any spiritual approached outside their own religion, and everything not understood must then of necessity be of the devil. The fact that mystery schools has been going since at least 6 centuries BC, and are still going strong, might be an indication of the perennial value they give to mankind (The great mystics of all ages has given us our current knowledge - Plato, Socrates, Pythagoras, Aristotle, Jordano Bruno, Galileo Galiley, Johannes Kepler, Isack Newton, Albert Einstein - where would our civilization be without them ? ) May you be blessed on your quest for the mystical elements of the soul - keep searching Regards - a Fellow Pilgrim on the Way
@rachelellis9404
@rachelellis9404 9 жыл бұрын
I will gladly assist you as I stood in the shoes where you stand now. It's very confusing, but once you understand, it makes perfect sense. All these, religions, aka, philosophies are the same in that they seek "self promotion." Rosicrucians, Freemasons, Illuminists, Club of Rome members, Luciferians, Skull and Bone, etc...they're all the same. They feel that Christianity is a restriction to thy self, and that through alchemy and black magick, they can transfer themselves into gods and use energies to gain desired outcomes. Jesus, of course, knew of these kind and their popularity and that's why he clearly states that the ONLY unforgivable sin is "Blasphemy against the Spirit" (Matthew 12: 31-32). Calling yourself or saying that you can "transform" into these godlike states is what Jesus was talking about. Hence, the number of "secret" societies that promote these idiocies.
@geraldbennett7035
@geraldbennett7035 9 жыл бұрын
Gerdes - dig deeper into this group. They are the mysteries (Mystery Babylon) referred to numerous times in the Bible. They are Illuminists. They are not Christians. Run from this deceit. Their "knowledge" or "Wisdom" is junk. They are Satanists because they seek illumination..
@josehormazabal1465
@josehormazabal1465 7 жыл бұрын
Rischi, try to read, Mastery of life
@educatedrock
@educatedrock 10 жыл бұрын
how does one become a Rosicrucian
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC
@RosicrucianOrderAMORC 10 жыл бұрын
Hello Todd, You may apply here: www.rosicrucian.org/join If you would like more information, just let us know.
@gillesasselin5691
@gillesasselin5691 10 жыл бұрын
Depending on where you live, Todd, you may want to visit a local group. Some activities are open to non-members and will give you a taste of what is being discussed and practiced. If you're ready to join, by all means, please do so!
@JosephDRupe
@JosephDRupe 9 жыл бұрын
Don't get confused with what people say and the truth. All religions practice ritual and meditation with symbols. If one thinks God is not bigger and more magnificent than the KJB Bible then this planet is doomed. The Bible is a very magical and wonderful book of truth but listening to fear mongering comments will never let your ears be circumcised or your eye Peirce the veil. If you want to know the truth and allegory of Balaam read the story for yourself. If you can tell me what the white stone Jesus talks about in Revelations is and who and what the bright and morning star is I cannot take your words for truth. After all God says in Isiah 45 " I from the light and I create the evil" So once you realize that Then just ask only God and Yourself Why. Take other people's words into consideration but if they are shooting judgment immediately it's prob half true at best.
@ncprice777
@ncprice777 9 жыл бұрын
People understand only what their consciousness is able to receive at that time. For such people, simple religion and its dogmas are a sort of spiritual play-pen in which to keep them safe. It's frightening to think of how strong willed such people are, and of the havoc they could wreak if not for those dogmatic constraints?
@DackLazy
@DackLazy 9 жыл бұрын
Joseph D. Rupe bible sucks fairy tale dick
@DackLazy
@DackLazy 9 жыл бұрын
it is a fairy tail but fools think its real.
@DackLazy
@DackLazy 9 жыл бұрын
***** the bible also has been translated incorrectly multiple times and is meant to be read metaphorically but idiots teach it literal. plus books that were suppose to be put in the bible were kept out. instead of blindly believing in something you should research your religion. the bible is a pile of shit because of politics. look up constantine and the council of Nicea
@DackLazy
@DackLazy 9 жыл бұрын
***** nope, never heard of him but I'll definitely look him up
@mantis877
@mantis877 8 жыл бұрын
If you are a philisophical and educational organisation then why do you swear an oath on the bible or the religious text of that region upon initiation? I don't expect a honest answer as in that oath you also swear to lie rather than reveal the truth. You also fail to mention the Rose and Crosses Babylonian roots, but then what would I know, I am not a "illumined one".
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