Introduction to the Wild T2 Theodolite

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The Maine Surveyor

The Maine Surveyor

Күн бұрын

Here's some of what I've learned about the Wild Heerbrugg T2 Theodolite. If I've gotten any of these concepts wrong, please let me know in the comments section.
Wild T2 Manual:
ugastro.berkeley.edu/ay122_fal...
Practical Field Accuracy Limits for a Wild T2 Theodolite:
apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltex...
Standards and Specifications for Geodetic Control Networks:
www.ngs.noaa.gov/FGCS/tech_pu...
Virtual Archive of Wild Heerbrugg - T2
shop.wild-heerbrugg.com/index...

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@TheMaineSurveyor
@TheMaineSurveyor 3 жыл бұрын
My apologies if this video is a bit too extemporaneous in delivery. My purpose is to review some key points about the T2 to make sure I have the proper understanding and to receive correction from individuals with a deeper knowledge of this equipment than I have.
@JesseKozlowski
@JesseKozlowski 3 жыл бұрын
Not at all. Great stuff.
@waynetucker1389
@waynetucker1389 3 жыл бұрын
Having used a T2 and T2E I am probably more familiar with the T2 and the methods behind Class I and II standards. By following these protocols it’s possible to achieve consistent raw closures of 1/million. To learn these protocols required a one term class in geodesic measurement systems using T2 and T3 instruments. Those protocols are too complex to discuss here and require a strong background in observational mathematics. Thanks for the video. Doc
@waynetucker1389
@waynetucker1389 3 жыл бұрын
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@funkymuskcrat73
@funkymuskcrat73 2 жыл бұрын
We had a T2, but I only got to use it once when our total station was in the shop. It was nice to use because of the craftsmanship and quality of the movements movements, but too slow without an EDM. That was at least 25 years ago so I don't remember enough to help you.
@algentry1
@algentry1 2 жыл бұрын
It's pronounced like Bill. Vild. I'm a retired Land Surveyor. I worked from 1970 to 1997. Those instruments are like a Rolls Royce. Thanks for the time you put in to make this video. We had a Kern DKM1. Inverted image and a Lenker Rod. Nightmare material. Thanks again.
@philkaftan5950
@philkaftan5950 9 ай бұрын
Im a survey student at UMaine. My professor let me sign out a T2 for the weekend. this video was extremley useful as there arnt any youtube videos specific to this instrument. Thank you for putting in the time to make this video is was a huge help!
@larryscott3982
@larryscott3982 3 жыл бұрын
I have a T2 where the index offset (offset is not error) of 3 minutes. And by doing the arithmetic reading F1/F2 it returns a Zenith angle accurate to 1 second compared to my other instruments. Reducing index offset to near zero is just convenient allowing for F1 only reading, as in topo shots, or distance reduction. For elevation determination, F1/F2 reading is always done, regardless of how small the index offset is. The vertical circle level vial is many times more sensitive the horizontal level vial. The main reason for the the ‘split bubble’ is the bubble changes size drastically with temperature. The fluid is alcohol. And as it heats up, the bubble is compressed. By using the split bubble, that change in size of the bubble has no effect.
@RichardKinch
@RichardKinch 3 жыл бұрын
The astronomic measurements you found mentioned aside in the Wild T2 manual are an interesting application of the instrument. I acquired a similar vintage "analog" theodolite, the Topcon model AG-30B, specifically for an astronomic calculation: to plummet benchmarks for a precise true-north line on a concrete slab for an observatory, allowing polar alignment of the telescope equatorial mount. I couldn't find any instructions on this topic, and had to re-invent the procedure. It's not difficult. You sight Polaris on the theodolite crosshairs (on a clear night), lock the horizontal angle to zero, and quickly note the date and precise time of day of the sighting. Running Stellarium on a computer, you set it to the date and time of the sighting, and it will report the azimuth angle of Polaris, which will be slightly off zero since Polaris is not precisely on the north celestial pole (this Polaris azimuth would have been calculated with an ephemeris in the old days before software methods). You apply that azimuth as a correction to the theodolite horizontal angle, and the scope now points true north, within the limits of accuracy of the instrument! You can then plunge the scope to mark two or more colinear benchmarks on the floor, aligned with true north. It occurred to me that you can use any star in Stellarium's extensive catalog for this purpose, preferably low on the horizon; you just have to note the precise time of the sighting. If you have the patience to wait to make the sighting at the time of the stars ""transit" (when it crosses the celestial meridian), then you don't need the azimuth calculation, which is zero at the transit time. Essentially, the point of light of a distant star is your surveyor's rod and turning point! You've made a primary measurement using only natural objects, without depending on prior surveys or benchmarks.
@MrBundybear3
@MrBundybear3 Жыл бұрын
Been rediscovering our T2 (c.1980) while cleaning up. My surveying career is just at the point where this with bolt-on EDM and/or a measuring band, and astronomical observations for meridian were still in use when I studied and started work. Joyfully, we have the illumination kit and backlit targets, and with some futzing around they work too.
@josegermanparra6064
@josegermanparra6064 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your video and the links! after 35 years of using one in the university I found a 1960 model and are now struggling in learning how to work with it.
@TheMaineSurveyor
@TheMaineSurveyor 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! The manual is very helpful, but I found I had to read some sections several times to understand it. But, after several sessions of operation, I've found that the T2 is every bit as accurate as the very best modern total stations.
@funkymuskcrat73
@funkymuskcrat73 2 жыл бұрын
Aw, the old Wild T2, great instrument.
@jakrepp6554
@jakrepp6554 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this
@larryscott3982
@larryscott3982 3 жыл бұрын
If you’ve only ever been using a TS with a DC, a T2 is whole ‘nuther ball game: Pencil and paper notes. And angle sheets for newbies is a good idea.
@nadavdanieli
@nadavdanieli 3 жыл бұрын
@20:40 is the bottom reading (2) tell you the low digit of minutes (e.g 2'43".6", 12'43".6" ,22'43".6" etc.) and you make which i is by which the upper degrees reading is it closer to?
@__RR__
@__RR__ Жыл бұрын
Hi! When reading hz and vz angles with the vernier scale (not the micrometer yet) , do you confirm that your dividing mark can only fall on a tenth of gradian or 10 minute interval? Meaning that in the upper window, your dividing mark will only ever be on a line, or exactly in between a line, but never, say, 1 quarter of the way?
@sakeheydenrych5693
@sakeheydenrych5693 2 жыл бұрын
Where can i get the pdf manual? I have the T1 but no manual.
@larryscott3982
@larryscott3982 3 жыл бұрын
A total station, digital theodolite, is not more accurate than a T2. A total station is just faster. T2 is the best. The battery pack is mostly to accommodate night work. But in daytime it’s nice. I use the battery lighting about 99% of the time.
@JesseKozlowski
@JesseKozlowski 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Wild Heerbrugg became Leica, then Hexagon acquired Leica.
@TheMaineSurveyor
@TheMaineSurveyor 3 жыл бұрын
On some survey supply websites, the Leica NA2 auto level says "Wild Heerbrugg" on the side. www.allenprecision.com/leica-universal-series-automatic-levels
@potterma63
@potterma63 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the intro. This should be a fun journey. A couple of questions. Are you saying “face 1” and “face 2” or phase? Is that the same as shooting from 1 to 2 and then 2 to 1? Sorry, no civil engineering ☹️
@TheMaineSurveyor
@TheMaineSurveyor 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Potterma63! I’m saying Face 1 & 2. It means to point at the target, read the angle. This is face 1. Then turn the instrument 180 degrees, and reverse the scope and aim at the target in this reversed position. Read the angle again. This is face 2. The horizontal angle will be 180 degrees different between face 1 & 2. The zenith angles in face 1 & 2 will add up to 360 degrees. (There will be error in each axis that needs to be corrected, but I’m speaking generally.)
@potterma63
@potterma63 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMaineSurveyor Great, thanks!
@ReinoGoo
@ReinoGoo 3 жыл бұрын
Phase one is face 1, and phase two is face 2.
@larryscott3982
@larryscott3982 3 жыл бұрын
Face 1, Face 2 means the same thing as Direct Reverse. Also face Left, face right, same thing.
@paulodiola5155
@paulodiola5155 Жыл бұрын
how to clain theodolite wild T2
@b0b5m1th
@b0b5m1th 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to own a Wild T2. I used one at university, and in the first few years of mining. I enjoy the field adjustments that are available. I picked up Sokkia TM1A this year, which required some adjustments. The silvering on the vertical and horizontal circles has flaked off over the years, making them difficult to read.
@TheMaineSurveyor
@TheMaineSurveyor 3 жыл бұрын
The numbers on my horizontal circle are a bit faint, but legible. The vertical scale, which is what I really wanted the T2 for, is bold and dark, very easy to read. I'm very happy with it, overall. I tried to buy a Sokkia off a guy last year, but even though he doesn't use it, it was the first instrument he ever purchased. He couldn't let it go for sentimental reasons, which I get.
@b0b5m1th
@b0b5m1th 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMaineSurveyor I completely understand. My wife was a little surprised when a large orange box arrived and I spent many hours in my workshop, fettling.
@TheMaineSurveyor
@TheMaineSurveyor 3 жыл бұрын
@@b0b5m1th I'll bet! They're so much fun! Before I got the T2, I asked the seller if the image was inverted, if it had the split-bubble vertical collimation level, and if it was graduated in DMS, grads, or mils. Additionally, if I ever buy another one, I'll ask the seller to take a photo through the microscope of both horizontal and vertical scales. It helps to get as much info as possible if buying one of these instruments online.
@b0b5m1th
@b0b5m1th 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMaineSurveyor is yours an upright or inverted?
@TheMaineSurveyor
@TheMaineSurveyor 3 жыл бұрын
@@b0b5m1th Inverted. I've worked with it for several hours over the last few weeks. It's still strange aiming at the target through the inverted view. How about yours?
@larryscott3982
@larryscott3982 3 жыл бұрын
Here is the vertical bubble coincidence. The misalignment in this vid shows about 3 arcseconds. So, 1 second is easily resolvable. kzfaq.infonPhOZmGuTNg Note, a manual level uses the same method of leveling. Auto levels have their own set of issues. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNukaLB2rN68k5s.html I have 6 subtense bars. They’re fantastic but really tedious. At 300 feet, 0.01 feet is achievable, but takes time. To get 1:30,000 distance accuracy, the Subtense angle has to be accurate to 0.15 arcseconds. And there are procedures for that level of accuracy. In the 1950s, measuring across a rivine: definitely worth it.
@markprange4386
@markprange4386 3 жыл бұрын
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