Iran, Israel, and The Middle East: Stopping The Slide Into All-Out War

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How will Israel respond to Iran's attack? What is Joe Biden's long term plan for Ukraine? What has Liz Truss' new book revealed about her short spell in Downing Street.
Join Rory and Alastair as they answer all these questions and more on today's episode of The Rest Is Politics.
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00:00 Intro
01:17 The history of the relationship between Iran & Israel
06:30 Iran, Israel and US response since the drone attack
14:28 Joe Biden's growing to-do list
15:37 Why doesn't Ukraine get Israel's level of support from its allies?
17:14 How the drone attack can grow into something more serious
19:25 Impact on Ukraine and the hierarchy of alliance
23:56 Why we need to talk about the South China Sea
26:55 US naval power (and decline?)
33:49 South Korean Elections
43:47 Has Liz Truss done a deal with Elon Musk?
45:18 Liz Truss experience and management style
59:17 Outro

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@dmt472 Ай бұрын

12:35 oh please the Iranian response was "so extreme" that they sent a majority of crappy drones, a few missiles, in waves, with 2 days warning, and aimed entirely at military bases 😂That is as mild as you get for killing 16 people without warning, and on foreign territory

@onebeanyboi9204 Ай бұрын

I agree with you it was clearly not an attack meant to cause anarchy. However, comparatively, it is extreme compared to previous responses like the military manoeuvres mentioned by Alistair and is extreme in the context of Israel believing there would be no response or very little.

@DuanRussel Ай бұрын

I agree. in my opinion its like this: Israel hits Iran breaching a serious international convention of not attacking embassy, kills 16 people. Iran strikes back with what appears to be fair warning to Israel and the US. These strikes appear to be mainly to save face at home. If Israel was on the side of regional peace (a joke i know) they would leave it at that. instead they are attacking Iran back and continuing the escalation safe in the knowledge they will drag several western nations into a war if wider war breaks out. Israel is the rogue state. and the future will not look kindly on them if large scale war breaks out.

@simonpriest4345 Ай бұрын

Rory + Al C both prove here how establishment they really are. All the moral moral high ground with Ukraine but completely incapable of applying the same moral equivalence with Gaza.

@Bevan1988 Ай бұрын

@@onebeanyboi9204 No country should expect no response to attacking another nations diplomatic missions.

@thomasburkhart5078 Ай бұрын

@@simonpriest4345sorry but you seem have to missed their discussions on Gaza over the last half a year. And Gaza wasn't even the topic today

@frankwitte1022 Ай бұрын

I very much enjoy listening to a podcast where I can disagree with things in the knowledge that the folks I disagree with give their arguments a lot of thought and so it is absolutely worth listening to them.

@howmanybeansmakefive Ай бұрын

10:05 (Freudian?) Slip there Rory. Think you meant Mahsa Amini by Iran. Not Shireen (Abu Akleh) by Israel

@tariqmanchester Ай бұрын

Iran gets slapped with restrictions and negative comments, whereas the bombing of a consulate/ embassy in Damascus gets no condenmation at all. How quickly we have lost our moral high ground is shocking. But telling.

@mtb5778 Ай бұрын

I thought exactly the same.

@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Ай бұрын

Iran is literally launching missiles at all global commercial shipping in the Red Sea. What are you talking about? They have no immunity ANYWHERE. This country has declared war on the world.

@newogame1 Ай бұрын

This

@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Ай бұрын

Iran is an openly genocidal regime that has attacked global shipping and oppresses their own people. What were three generals doing in a consulate in Syria? Do you think they were having a tea party?

@MyFluXx Ай бұрын

@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Don't use your brain! Repeat after me, West Bad!

@adamjackson6887 Ай бұрын

Come on guys...how would we know about the "disgrace" of UK Pork Markets without Mrs Truss...

@jimb9063 Ай бұрын

You would have thought she'd have suggested a bigger bazooka for those prison drones...

@adamjackson6887 Ай бұрын

@jimb9063 I don't know if you've read "politics on the edge" but she'd apparently suggested Dogs had been brought in to bark at the drones to which she was told "you're barking". Rory came up with the remarkable idea of...fixing the windows so drones couldn't be flown in. For some reason key decision makers in the prison administration suggested was impossible.

@Joe90V Ай бұрын

Well unless her comic mentions cheese imports I won't be reading it.

@philipmulville8218 Ай бұрын

Oink, oink 🐽

@Bekamorphosis Ай бұрын

Yeah when they were talking about her odd way of communicating, I was visualising her facial expressions in that speech 🤣🤣

@wayneburchell6346 Ай бұрын

Liz Truss as the Queen in Blackadder.... now I can't unseen that!

@samueljeffries8671 Ай бұрын

Hi guys, I have a question for Rory. Will your lectures at Yale be uploaded onto the university's KZfaq channel? I hope you see this message and thank you for the great program ?

@paulheydarian1281 Ай бұрын

Does he have anything worth saying? I mainly listen to this podcasts becuz I enjoy their clever put-downs of Liz Truss and BoJo.

@goosex3644 Ай бұрын

@@paulheydarian1281lol

@_arshadm Ай бұрын

I think the game changer is that cheap drones can overwhelm missile defense shields, if you can send thousands of drones interspersed with hyper sonic missiles.

@simonpriest4345 Ай бұрын

Not just drones. You still need some air defence to deter fighter jets

@philipmulville8218 Ай бұрын

Rory's explainers are the stuff of legend. I tip mon chapeau.

@simonpriest4345 Ай бұрын

Yeah I love the way he misses out all the unhelpful bits on how we got ourselves into this pickle to begin with

@chrisjordan4210 Ай бұрын

Does anyone not remember the banner headline in the Daily Telegraph the day after the Truss / Kwarteng mini budget...Allister Heath's "The greatest budget I've ever heard", never heard him again?

@UKRYKERRIDER Ай бұрын

Have to say these two guys are clearly very knowledgeable and well read. I like listening to their conversations, easy to listen too…

@JelMain Ай бұрын

Better than well-read, experienced. As am I.

@LouisMenotti Ай бұрын

😅 @@JelMain

@JelMain Ай бұрын

@@LouisMenotti Rory knows me, personally. Dana's chum, who laid the groundwork for his time in Afghanistan.

@gmw3083 Ай бұрын

Also, biased.

@JelMain Ай бұрын

@@gmw3083 So? It's called knowledge. If you've never done anything, it's a poor foundation to critique at this level. I have, and so know what I'm talking about.

@Ozahmed 29 күн бұрын

Gloss over 1953, gloss over oppressive regime of the Shah, gloss over our support of Saddam in war against Iran. Iran is a product of disastrous foreign policy over 70 years.

@bobsingh7949 Ай бұрын

I really appreciate the global roundup and insight you chaps provide. Greetings from Alberta Canada

@MeganLeibovici Ай бұрын

Fwiw, it was not the embassy that was struck in Demascus. But rather the consulate? Why the consulate would be right next to the embassy, I don't understand. It was most definitely an attack on Iran, I was just surprised Rory was not more specific.

@waltermcphee3787 Ай бұрын

On hierarchy of support, you miss the fact that UK and America signed the Budapest Memorandum to support Ukraine for them giving up their nuclear arms with which Russia would never have invaded. We have a duty to support Ukraine in any way to uphold their independence which we do not have with Israel.

@plebius Ай бұрын

Iron shield not iron dome. Iron shield is what the Israelis call the multilayered defence provided by allies aircraft with iron dome backing it up. The Iron dome is the missile defense system. They gave the impression, that this was a long held prepared contingency for an attack from Iran. Also what I have heard no one mention, Israel has struck facilities in Iran numerous times in my lifetime. (Does everyone forget the attack on Iran's Nuclear facilities.) edit : the airstrike not stuxnet.

@StephenYuan Ай бұрын

They've also assassinated Iranians. Meanwhile Iran has been supporting Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis. They've been going back and forth for decades.

@paulheydarian1281 Ай бұрын

Is any of it made in China? 🤔

@richardfinlayson1524 Ай бұрын

America is always having a go at China but it is always " Chinese aggression" if China doesn't want US ships sailing right off their borders. I'm not pro China but I'm not pro America either, the Americans are just as aggressive and have a history of undermining other countries governments,and what about all the stuff they don't tell us.

@djakorla 20 күн бұрын

Best sign off ever!! “Join your local anti-raids. Goodnight!”

@legringogordo Ай бұрын

Should James Daly be prosecuted for wasting police time if his second politically motivated request for a police investigation also proves without merit ?

@johnduffy79 Ай бұрын

love this. rory should get back into politics. he is a caring decent man. my dad was a miner and rory was his type of man, honest and bright. he seems to care and listen

@farhaddizadji4063 21 күн бұрын

Hope countries have learnt a lesson not to gang up against Iran/ Iranians.

@josheves6436 Ай бұрын

Is anyone acknowledging the sole aim of the Iranian nuclear missile programme? It has one goal and one goal only and Rory failed to mention it..

@IanDoesMagic Ай бұрын

Speaking as an American lefty, it's hard to want to spend money on global policing when we're failing our own citizens. I don't buy that we've made things worse, I think the global west has hugely benefitted from American military power, but our European allies have been coasting under that aegis. We have big problems at home and it's time to turn our eye inward.

@16252 Ай бұрын

Abandoning Ukraine is not going to get universal health insurance or lower medication for people in the United States.

@IanDoesMagic Ай бұрын

@@16252 no one said it would. In the video they implied the left's issues with the American military machine is that it causes more problems than it solves, but the issue is significantly more nuanced than that. Frankly it's an outdated political take.

@JohnCox-ut3cv Ай бұрын

Rory didnt mention Mossadegh in his history of Iran. A massive oversight.

@isaaner7761 Ай бұрын

In his history of Israel Rory "oversaw" the King David Hotel bombing, the murder of the UN mediator and the Deir Yassin massacre. More prejudice than oversight methinks.

@ariadne.thread Ай бұрын

The State of Israel came into existence a couple of decades ago, NOT thousands of years 😂😂😂

@requiem1723 Ай бұрын

"The problem about these regimes is that you can cherrypick people who make very extreme statements about the others": so unlike our own dear nation, or our cousins across the pond.

@SN-sz7kw Ай бұрын

Don’t think that was the point. I think the idea is to recognize that rhetoric, whatever the source, does not necessarily equate to policy.

@newogame1 Ай бұрын

This

@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Ай бұрын

Someone pointed this out to me the other day: Why is Marjory Taylor Green one of the most powerful congress people in America right now? She's only been in office three years. She represents a nobody district. She doesn't understand ANYTHING about congressional procedure or how to whip. She can barely even manage the etiquette and language she's supposed to use while speaking on the House floor. She's been embarrassed multiple times trying to push bill she didn't have the support for. So how did this really quite unskilled congress person become a household name who sets fundraising records for the GOP? It's because left wing media puts on her on TV every day.

@simonjones4855 Ай бұрын

@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoatShe is nowhere near the most powerful. Far, far from it.

@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Ай бұрын

@@simonjones4855 Good thing I didn't say that then. Arguing is so much easier if you just make up what your opponent says instead of reading. MTG raised $3.2 million in the first three months of 2021. For comparison, AOC raised $728 thousand.

@paulok2153 Ай бұрын

Thanks guys love how you come out the trenches to boot the ball about

@prasadrao2895 23 күн бұрын

When historians look back into American history in a hundred or two hundred years, they will say the start of the end of the American empire began with American intervention in Afghanistan.

@ALuckyDonkey Ай бұрын

9 dash line feels like a joke. Like when you haggle, you go for the most outrageous number you can think of first.

@paulheydarian1281 Ай бұрын

Are you any good at bargaining? 🤔

@suhailmu Ай бұрын

Your discussion left out Mojahedin-e-Khalq and Baluch dissidents that have carried out numerous terrorist acts in Iran, apparbrtly paid by Israel. Iranian regime is repressive-but we need to cover more of the details of what they experience, too

@kutlumzrak2689 Ай бұрын

There;s one omission. ISrael's air defense didnt shoot the majority of those 300 missiles. US navy from the supercarrier in mediterrenean and US air force presence did.

@adr12346 Ай бұрын

Great discussion. I would very much like to hear your thoughts on possible ways the war might end in Ukraine. It seems to me that the only guarantee Russia wouldn't try gaining even more of Ukraine several years after it's end, would either be to join NATO or to have some sort of constant, neutral peacekeeping force along a carved out border. Both of these would be unacceptable outcomes for the parties involved. So, while I agree this war appears unwinnable for Ukraine, especially given material Western support is waning, and I don't want more unnecessary bloodshed, how could the war realistically end?

@richierich7609 Ай бұрын

Stuxnet virus (actually called Olympic Games by the US and Israel) was a splashy media event, but if you look at the graph of enriched material produced by the country, it's a parabolic arc going upward and where the virus was used is a tiny, insignificant squiggle you need magnification to see. It was a television event. It didn't meaningfully interrupt the enrichment.

@simonpriest4345 Ай бұрын

😂 @rory you lost me saying “the shah and Israel had a close relationship”. Convenient of you to omit the fact that we put him there after getting rid of the democratically elected government.

@Sai_Saracen Ай бұрын

Well, it seems that there was also a state of Israel 1000s of years ago !!!!

@estherroman9292 Ай бұрын

@@Sai_Saracen Yeah - funny how that little untruth gets slipped in - dang lmao

@randscott4676 Ай бұрын

Convenient for you to omit that what replaced the Shah was a dictatorship religious autocracy that is the biggest world wide sponsor of terror.

@richardoldfield6714 Ай бұрын

Not relevant to this particular video, but here's a suggested future topic to cover: anti-democratic revolutionaries who disguise themselves in conservative clothes and are increasingly replacing genuine conservatives. In this context the political philosopher Dr. Vexler has spoken about “… conservative politicians who cease to be conservative but continue to wear conservative clothes. They pretend to play the political game as we all accept it should be played with respect for democratic process, for counter-majoritarian institutions, for checks and balances … but in fact they are authoritarian. They want to break the democratic game.” kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hNp2oqRh0czNYps.html He also refers to other ‘conservative’ politicians who don’t necessarily want to break the democratic game but are open to that happening - or even participating in that happening - if becomes helpful to their political career advancement. Such politicians are, at the very least, reckless in their attacks on the institutions that help to sustain democracy.

@den264 Ай бұрын

America's friends are called "allies" Iran's friends are called "proxies " Goebles speek !

@roseblue3368 Ай бұрын

Iran knows russia is on their corner

@StHat20 Ай бұрын

Yes, Iran has joined BRICS this January. To save the Israelis from themselves, America and Europe need to say to Netanyahu, enough is enough. You are going to self destruct with your provocative attacks on neighbours and the horrendous ethnic cleansing and occupation of the Palestinians. Either Israel ends its occupation and alters its racist position toward the indigenous people there and give up this zionism, or we will no longer support your society. The world can't tolerate you anymore.

@jamesjamey8596 Ай бұрын

If you read a few lines of Iran's historical interactions with Russia you'll understand that isn't true. Historical facts aside, the Russians do control Syrian air space. So the Israeli strike was willfully ignored by the Russians

@4as856 Ай бұрын

So they think!

@mtb5778 Ай бұрын

ukraine is a massive country to defend. Israel is tiny in comparison. much easier to defend a small country against missiles and drones.

@jamie_ar Ай бұрын

Bit odd to see footage on this of Alistair messing about on his phone while Rory is talking about his experiences with Liz Truss - not sure if he's actually being rude or whether it's a bit of an editing mistake as, when he does chime in, the lighting in his room looks different suggesting the footage is from different times of day...

@FireflyOnTheMoon Ай бұрын

He often does fact checking on points brought up on the podcast while someone else is talking. He will say he found a stat / book etc relevant to the conversation

@fghezelbash8731 21 күн бұрын

these two were in intelligence services. this level of incompetency is really dangerous.

@A_kiwis_view Ай бұрын

Rory did not go back to the installation of the Shah by the CIA, after the assassination of the democratically elected prime minister as part of the Cold War. Since then Israel, Britain and France have become proxies for the USA., destabilising the Middle East. The region will be in a forever mess between Jews, Muslims and Christians until the West leaves the neighbours to sort out their differences.

@dexstewart2450 Ай бұрын

Er - Israel's strike on an Iranian Consulate ?

@chrisjames1924 Ай бұрын

2+2=5

@Dansinge81 Ай бұрын

Why is the conversation on Iran? Israel attacked Iran first in this instance?? Why isn't the conversation about Israel? This is all vey strange. I don't understand.

@user-ho4rv6kg8u Ай бұрын

Mayhar Tousi might be able to explain.

@dmt472 Ай бұрын

Because it doesn't fit the narrative. Even mainstream media has framed this correctly as a retaliatory attack, it's disappointing to see it in this podcast

@LouisMenotti Ай бұрын

@dmt472 Did you expect better from these two?

@SN-sz7kw Ай бұрын

Um. You did listen to the history portion, right? And do understand who is behind the proxy attacks on Israel? 🤔

@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Ай бұрын

20,000 Iranian rockets have been launched into Iz. What do you mean Iz attacked first? Who do you think funds Ha, Hez and the Hou? Iz is SURROUNDED by Iranian aggression.

@moonmonkey303 Ай бұрын

Made me laugh about Truss's weird body language. Like a few recent conservatives she also wields the weak fist waggle first started by Boris.

@bjrnhjjakobsen2174 Ай бұрын

Steve Coll have written “The Achilles Trap” Saddam Hussein, the United States and the Middle East, 1979-2003 - very nice👌

@purplemonkeydishwasher5269 Ай бұрын

16:00 disagree. I think we stepped in here to stop a 3rd party escalating a conflict. Interesting idea that Iran basically said we expect you to stop all of these missles and this was just a way to cause Isreal a bit of a headache logistically.

@elizabethhancock9333 Ай бұрын

Very interesting about the South China Sea. Have you read professor Anthony Carey’s ‘The history and sovereignty of the South Chins Sea’?

@HKrules Ай бұрын

I don't think that the English version has been published yet, Chinese only. I for one will try to read a copy when it is available.

@izikbiton147 Ай бұрын

You forgot ballistic missiles in your in the title.

@chrisp4170 Ай бұрын

These two are brilliant together

@bell1095 23 күн бұрын

Not an "embassy" was attacked in Damascus !

@supergroovy8346 Ай бұрын

What is the difference between terrorist groups and resistance groups?

@ishubaba4202 29 күн бұрын

and how long will it be before you’re at The Hague

@460mas Ай бұрын

Rory that’s an understatement Cyrus the great is called the messiah in the Hebrew bible. The Iran Israel war is one of the stupidest things in history.

@Ravengagepvl Ай бұрын

Modern Iran and Israel also have virtually nothing to do with events that transpired thousands of years ago.

@michaelshanahan4042 Ай бұрын

I think that was more than a minute though 😅

@fghezelbash8731 21 күн бұрын

12:35 -> response was EXTREM 13:58 -> i am surprised that the response was not more violent Two contradictory statements within 2 minutes.

@hash062 Ай бұрын

Israel has gone rogue.

@5kribbles Ай бұрын

Isreal is "a Theocracy and is in the grip of conservative hard liners" Strange Rory only uses that language to describe Iran. The only reason this hasn't spiralled completely out of control is for the restraint and pragmatism of Iran

@MyFluXx Ай бұрын

Israel is not a theocracy, come to your senses 😂

@Caladonia Ай бұрын

Israel is doing nothing as America have stepped away from them.

@hash062 Ай бұрын

@@5kribbles We know about America, but here Government and opposition is bought and paid for by Friends of Israel lobby.

@5kribbles Ай бұрын

@@MyFluXx you prefer Ethnoreligious aparthied state? Sure I suppose that is more technically accurate, but it's a distinction without a difference for people living under the boot of the regime. Which country has a greater population living under its control without any democratic voice.

@petedennis5694 Ай бұрын

Will Ukraine be our Czechoslavakia ? Why wouldn’t we be just as dumb !?🐾🇩🇰

@adaptiveaussie2216 Ай бұрын

Uhm pretty sure the strike in Syria Israel did it wasn't actually an embassy and the was legally a legitimate target.

@olliegrant205 Ай бұрын

Should've mentioned the map men video about the South China Sea!

@paulhicks3595 Ай бұрын

Iran ( singular) IS playing the long game.

@flamboyentpromotions3471 Ай бұрын

The description of Hezbollah seems to have missed the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982, which was instrumental in the creation of Hezbollah. Surprised Rory missed that

@JelMain Ай бұрын

Because you cannot impute a movement to a single event.

@flamboyentpromotions3471 Ай бұрын

@@JelMain lol, that was the biggest single event, and you can't properly contextualise Hezbollah without mentioning 1982

@carpeddiem6042 Ай бұрын

Iran response to consulate is extreme, Israeli response to hamas is well measured? Propaganda propaganda propaganda

@tomgraham6071 29 күн бұрын

Why should Israel expect Iran not react to its attack on their embassy and their rightful attempts to develop nuclear power? No, I don't want Iran with nuclear weapons, but if some hold them, others will want to acquire them.

@lucysteiner4556 Ай бұрын

You treating us as fools to think we don’t know how the Shah came to power in Iran. Don’t erase history dude.

@ricesnot Ай бұрын

Alister Campbell opinions on the middle east, how useful

@FireflyOnTheMoon Ай бұрын

yes

@richardthingsilike9562 Ай бұрын

Rory just tell it like it is about Liz shes mad as a box of frogs and lives in a world of her own!

@4as856 Ай бұрын

Interesting observation. You tube states there is 12 coment but actually there are so many.

@alphasierramike2091 Ай бұрын

When you talk about Israel you need to speak about Lebanon and the fact there is this political/military faction dominating the politics or is stalemate? Alasdair read the article in Le PoInt. How does the situation in Lebanon affect the Israeli story and Syria.

@andrewrobinson2565 Ай бұрын

Iran IS playing the long game. Dumbing down has gone TOO FAR 😂🎉.

@pakelly99 Ай бұрын

re china reclaiming taiwan, to the best of my knowledge, the prc has never ruled, administered or had any say or presence in taiwan. just thought it was worth mention for any confused by the “reclaiming” term, habitually repeated without any interrogation of whether the term is used in any coherent sense.

@StoicViper Ай бұрын

A minor clarification: Israel recently targeted a military compound in Damascus, eliminating several IRGC officials (Gen Mohammad Hadi Hajriahimi, Gen. Mohammad Reza Zahedi and five other IRGC officials were eliminated). Contrary to initial reports by Iranian-state media suggesting an embassy strike, this action primarily aimed at disrupting Iran's support for regional proxies like Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah. This strike is part of Israel's ongoing efforts to counter IRGC activities in Syria, particularly their support for various militant groups. Iran supports these proxies in an effort to entrench its network of influence and undermine regional stability. I think it's crucial to understand this context to fully grasp the situation. While Iran operates across the MENA region, supporting regimes like Assad's and fostering instability through proxies (Hezbollah, PIJ, Hamas, Houthis, PMU, et al.), Israel's actions are often framed as "escalatory" or in need of restraint. This double standard overlooks Iran's history of aggression and indiscriminate attacks against civilians and Coalition personnel in the region, which often receive little international condemnation. Even this recent mass attack by Iran via drones and cruise missiles designed to maximise civilian casualties, thankfully intercepted by joint international partners and the Iron Dome, was not spoken about prior when it was telegraphed with the same language of deescalation. Contrast this with Israel who is urged to deescalate even when targeting legitimate military targets. This inconsistency highlights the need for a more nuanced understanding of the situation, imo.

@newogame1 Ай бұрын

This

@ismaelquigley4900 Ай бұрын

Where are you getting your info that it was a military compound and that Iran was striking civilian targets in its recent attack? This seems like bad propaganda - very similar format to pro Russian accounts.

@user-mb8op5hx7h Ай бұрын

James Bagge 🇬🇧 Independent for Norfolk. Why because we need Norfolk security Not insurcure acts of Trust .

@AR12341 Ай бұрын

I think Iran gave detailed info... bear in mind they also used very old and slow missles/drones which were very likely used to test the defences. The missiles which hit the airbases were very likely the actual payload which was meant to reach it's target (which it did....very successfully) and the rest were just dead weight to keep the defence system busy.

@jimb9063 Ай бұрын

Well done chaps. I was shocked to learn that two thirds of our prisons are patrolled by eagles flying from eyries in the EU. This is a disgrace!

@davidpearn5925 Ай бұрын

How do you fail to even mention Mike Johnson and his being owned by Donald Trump with his refusal to sign anything that the vast majority in Congress approve of.......the hardware for Ukraine ???.

@den264 Ай бұрын

There is a great interview with the Shah of Iran by a very well known American TV presenter. If you thought the Shah was totally pro America and pro Israeli, wrong ! He made many anti Zionist comments in that documentary. He was a highly intelligent and well informed diplomat, and ex president of Iran.

@PublicEnema Ай бұрын

A lot of rewriting of Middle Eastern history from RS omitting the legacy of Jews living throughout the Middle East and western interference in self determination. All of their foreign policy interventions have led disastrous consequences

@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Ай бұрын

*All the ones you know about. I like to say the CIA are like eyelashes. You only notice them when they've failed.

@paulgilliland2992 Ай бұрын

Can you honestly explain Israel’s complicated historical narrative in 60 seconds? I think he did an ok summary.

@FireflyOnTheMoon Ай бұрын

It's not "rewriting anything" - it's a five minute synopsis.

@GibsonFender Ай бұрын

Morning chaps

@nickyd922 Ай бұрын

What is Russia's role in the middle east? They seem to be the agitators. Also wasn't the hamas attack flagged as a retaliation for the killing of Soleimani?

@dannydetonator Ай бұрын

Idk about Soleimani (might be overreach), but there is certain evidence of Kremlin not only supporting, but sponsoring HAMAS and other Muslim Brotherhood factions. This Gaza-Israel war certainly played in their favour in more ways than one in the big picture. Mostly on info-war front it has divided the "western" unity, main goal of their hybrid-war right now. HAMAS uses every page from Russian black-propaganda book, to the point i'd believe Roskomnadzor psyop offices trained to make or helped to spread their messages. True along the fake ones, obfuscating the real situation and statistics just as they do on Russia-occupied territories. Confusion and polarisation of western public are some of their common goals.

@BarefootLorrie Ай бұрын

Interesting that Stewart uses “conservative” almost as a dirty word.

@shabbydabbydo314 Ай бұрын

It wouldn't suprise me if the Iranians negociated the response with the usa, implicitly at least. It all seemed very performative and they needed to respond and usa needed to put netenyahu back in his box.

@davidcooks2379 Ай бұрын

Well interestingly, they managed to put Netanyahu back on top instead. He now has green pass to go to Rafah

@shabbydabbydo314 Ай бұрын

@@davidcooks2379 from one perspective. From the other he's been slapped down in terms of the response he can give to Iran and maintain western backing.

@AnonymousAlcoholic772 Ай бұрын

The state of israel that didnt exist for 2000 years? They Iranians had strong relations with a non existent state for 2000 years? Has he lost his mind?

@paulheydarian1281 Ай бұрын

Never allow inconvenient facts interfere with the grand narrative, that's the Western Media's approach. Rory probably meant the Israelite tribes, since the idea of nationhood is a fairly modern concept.

@deirdreseymour8927 19 күн бұрын

Yes, I noticed that. REALLY Rory!!

@richardhartman490 Ай бұрын

did the bomb actually drop on an embassy, or next door ?

@nickj1968 Ай бұрын

Splitting hairs?

@fragglet Ай бұрын

Stuxnet was by the US NSA, not Israel.

@jamesjukebox2386 Ай бұрын

The British army is a cub scout movement, the once largest Navy in the world, is now barely in control of it's own territorial waters, we are a side show in any conflict, so the more isolationist the Yanks become, we need to get real.

@martinfrances107 Ай бұрын

That comment about David Cameron and Liz Truss... is superb

@damienprevot2599 Ай бұрын

Absurd theatrics? Was that a jab at me?

@ge3neva Ай бұрын

Unlike at the end of World War II the demographics are fully stacked against Russia. The numbers the lost were visible in the population pyramids but many of the young soldiers dying now will never have families. The long term impact on Russian Economy and society of 150000 deaths is almost incalculable

@stephenderry9488 Ай бұрын

Of course it is important to differentiate between Russian federal citizens from the distant rural oblasts and republics that make up the majority of those casualties, and ethnic Russians from the industrialised Moscow-St Petersburg axis that so far are largely untouched by the conscription drives.

@davesy6969 Ай бұрын

And both sides have nuclear weapons.

@FireflyOnTheMoon Ай бұрын

The podcast is just two blokes having a conversation - this is their person reflections, nothing more.

@garyclark6727 Ай бұрын

israel got a slap, they need to calm down!

@mtb5778 Ай бұрын

what happened to the F16's which Ukraine were being given?

@tisFrancesfault Ай бұрын

Its still happening.

@mellowmarkable Ай бұрын

Some aircraft are currently in Romania and the Ukrainian pilots are being trained to use them. The RAF are/were also training pilots I think (saw a short clip at the end of the recent MOD Ukraine documentary on the Ministry of Defence KZfaq channel about this, I think?)

@markendicott6874 Ай бұрын

Liz Truss.......the poundshop Farage that would be an insult to all good Poundshops (nothing can insult Farage.)

@jacquelinerafferty6071 Ай бұрын

I wish these so called pundits would do their homework. The iron dome and other top defences of the Israeli airfields did not work. The 2 airfields from which the attack on the iranian consulate was atacked were successfully hit plus as I understand a major intelligence/radar complex in the golan heights was completely destroyed. Jacqueline Rafferty

@lorrainegregory908 Ай бұрын

Interesting discussions as ever guys but OTT with personal remarks about Liz Truss. Not necessary.

@BengtSviu Ай бұрын

If Iran and Israel have no diplomatic relations they do not respect each other diplomats and embassies and need not adhere to the diplomatic norms toward each other. Jordan is another matter, I suppose, but Jordan was not party to the attack on the Iranian consulate.

@pauleng883 Ай бұрын

Campbell discussing current wars and gaining financially from discussing war is truly laughable given his history.

@ExiledGypsy Ай бұрын

It is impossible to seperate the emotional from rational even between these two. The ghost of WWII is still with us. No one seems to be able to seperate the images of Holocaust from Gaza, Jews from Israel, Iranians from Mullahs. No one mentions that Israel too is a theocracy like Iran and doesn't have secular constitution which is really what is archaic. If it were a secular regime with a secular constitution, then the so called two state solution would not be necessary and the Israeli parliament would not be dominated by Old Testement Zealots. It is like back to the time when the Pop dictated Europe's foreign policy. At least everyone is now moving to the danger of nuclear winter rather than ethics. That is a good thing while disappointing. At least it is more difficult to lie about nuclear winter than the level of empathy for human suffering.