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@j0rgos971 Жыл бұрын
This is actually very true. Of course us finns don't neceserly realize it 'cause of how good we speak the language but a big part of the vocabulary has shortened versions. For example: kaksikymmentä = kakskyt jne. It's quite impossible to speak any language on the natibe level and I can believe you have had hard time studying finnish, but keep it up!
@blackheavyblans Жыл бұрын
When you play hide and seek example and have to count very fast you can say "kakym"
@theblindbandit6533 Жыл бұрын
I’m finnish on my fathers side and I have yet to learn the language it just seems sorta intimidating starting off Edit: would appreciate any suggestions
@NeonDucker Жыл бұрын
@@theblindbandit6533 don't even try if you are going to stop half way but If you want to be good at Finnish just keep trying until you get good we understand english well
@theblindbandit6533 Жыл бұрын
@@NeonDucker thx 🙏
@GothamClive Жыл бұрын
The problem is that Finns don't adapt to foreigners. I tried to learn and speak Finnish, but oftentimes I didn't understand things. When I told people that I don't understand and asked if they could repeat what they said (En ymmärä voitko sanoi se udestan )(or something like that, it was a few years ago)) They repeat the exact same words in the exact same speed but louder. The volume isn't the problem for us foreigners.
@marialindell9874 Жыл бұрын
Then there is me; a nightmare Finn who speaks in a mix of atleast four dialects at the same time 😂
@holymacarenafin2319 Жыл бұрын
Im from close to jkl and copy everyones dialects 💀 JUST CANT HELP IT
@GothamClive Жыл бұрын
But why do you have to speak to foreigners like you speak to locals? +I often wonder why Finns don't get that it would help to simplify their language when talking to foreigners. It happened to me many times that I tried to speak Finnish and didn't get what the other person said (They got what I said) Then I asked them to repeat because I didn't understand and they used the exact same words in the exact same speed, but louder. You discourage people from learning the language. Especially in Western Finland here the locals speak English to each other because they have Finnish or Swedish surnames. I can communicate better in Finnish with foreigners who don't speak English than I ever could with Finnish people. And that's just on Finnish people being, well, let's say Finnish.
@gabrielgabriel5177 Жыл бұрын
Yes and 10x speed
@henriikkak2091 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Savonian, East and West Tavastian, and North Ostrobothnian.
@Arcanist665 Жыл бұрын
@@GothamClive it sounds like you've had some bad experiences, and I'm sorry that my fellow finns did this, but you're exagerating and saying things that aren't true. Finns like when people try to learn finnish, and do speak as clearly as they can if asked to. However, speaking in kirjakieli feels very ackward to many finns, so people can easily slip back into the more comfortable way of speaking, puhekieli. There's also another aspect to your problem. And that is that most finns speak english. Because you both know english equaly well, it's a better method of communicating than finnish. Therefore, when finns have official business with foreigners, they speak english to communicate better. Yes, this doesn't help you learn finnish, but that isn't the job of a cashier at S-market.
@sampohonkala4195 Жыл бұрын
You still have the option of being the quiet Finn; never say a word, never listen and always be perfectly understood.
@mirzaabreunykanen695811 ай бұрын
😂
@Kotifilosofi Жыл бұрын
I watched a Finnish soap opera (yes, Salatut Elämät lol), and suddenly I realized how weird it sounded when all the characters spoke the general spoken language without any noticeable dialects, despite the characters' age or background. I know it's to make the characters more appealing to the audience regardless of the region they live in, but it just ends up sounding "clinical" and "bland" to everyone haha.
@elderscrollsswimmer4833 Жыл бұрын
One appeal of Tuntematon is that the Characters speak their dialects.
@Kotifilosofi Жыл бұрын
@@elderscrollsswimmer4833 yeah, feels more real.
@jout7388 ай бұрын
@@elderscrollsswimmer4833 They still understand eachother, while some have very weird dialects and way of speaking finnish language.
@Bjornerokk Жыл бұрын
Had a coworker who lived in Finland 20 years, she sometimes struggled to understand me because of my dialect, it was so funny, she looked stunned and asked, what language are you speaking??? and I laughed and answered FINNISH!
@IrishinFinland Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MrEqtube Жыл бұрын
Then it is you, who had a problem! Of course, when communicating, one always considers who are the recipients and adjust accordingly. You just acted in a rather selfish manner, IMO.
@Bjornerokk Жыл бұрын
@@MrEqtube What the hell man? that was funny moment and an example how strong dialects are in Finland, we both laughed about it and of course I explained to her that I am from another province and it is my strong dialect, of course I said to her I try be more aware of it. MrEqtube I find it really rude you coming to me blaming me having a problem and that I act in selfish manner, I can't just turn it off, you know that? Btw do you happen to be from USA?
@antcommander1367 Жыл бұрын
accent in rauma isn't dialect. its it own language
@Bjornerokk Жыл бұрын
@@antcommander1367 I dont know how people in rauma speaks but they have own accent? Is It because it is close to border with sweden?
@Alexandros.Mograine Жыл бұрын
This meme is too much on point! credit for coming up with a great finnish skyrim meme.
@IrishinFinland Жыл бұрын
😆🤟🏻
@SolidoNaso.8 ай бұрын
Miraak, the first foreigner to speak Finnish. The first Perkeleborn
@IrishinFinland8 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@MichaelAfton353 ай бұрын
Me who teached my little sister (when i was a kid) how to say, kalja and perkele, there’s nothing else you need to know as a finn (btw those were her first words, she still remembers and is not happy😂)
@tinou3462 Жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how frustrating this must be, when I went to a school with a lot of foreign students they had to remind me to speak "normal finnish" because I speak with a very noticeable Savonian dialect.
@kmeanxneth Жыл бұрын
Because when you learn Finnish you learn written Finnish (the official Finnish) but Finns use spoken Finnish + dialect. :D
@ReasonAboveEverything Жыл бұрын
I had a friend in high school who had lived in England and Ireland till he was 13 since 4. He was Finnish and could speak Finnish fluently. Brother was 17 when we met and even he could not keep up with my short amped up southwest dialect. When you cut words in half and combine them into new words that you then sometimes shorten, is it still the same language.
@Ganmue Жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how hard finnish must be to comprehend, when even most finns struggle to understand regional dialects and idioms. At least people are chill.... about speaking english
@herrakaarme Жыл бұрын
Finns understand each other pretty well. However, if it's someone from an alien realm like Savonia, then things can get challenging.
@Ganmue Жыл бұрын
@@herrakaarme Heh, aina savo mainitaan. "Ihanan" poikkeuksellinen alue.
@Taistelukalkkuna Жыл бұрын
@@Ganmue Suattaahan tuo ollannii, vuan suattaa että ei.
@madamada219 Жыл бұрын
This is cap. Every Finnish person understands each other. There might be some dialect words that are spoken only in certain areas but there isn't that big barrier between. But yeah might be hard for foreigners who learn Finnish to see difference between "minä" and "mä".
@herramirtsaaja9032 Жыл бұрын
@@madamada219 "cap" ja on murteiden välillä, murteiden käyttö on vaa laskenu nii paljo, et kaikki ymmärtää toisiaa, mut jos ottaa vaikka jonku vanhuksen lohjalta ja toisen vanhuksen seinäjoelta nii ei ne toisiaa kauheemmi ymmärrä Saa selkoa mistä aiheesta puhutaan mutta yksityiskohdat jää sumusemmiks
@d4gg3rm0th Жыл бұрын
And then there are the finns who talk in that weird accent that even some people that are finnish theirselves can't understand
@hugopitkanen7178 Жыл бұрын
Suomi mainittu
@purj0853 Жыл бұрын
Torilla tavataan
@Surrur_the_gamer Жыл бұрын
Thats so true
@henriikkak2091 Жыл бұрын
The culture shock between, say, North Karelia and Satakunta is real. Natives of these areas don't necessarily understand each other.
@perttisuorsa4678 Жыл бұрын
They DO understand each other. There are some dialectal words which might cause some trouble but not much. I have never met a Finn whom I would not have understood. People say that people in Rauma speak an incomprehensible dialect. That is not true att all. The famous Rauma dialect is dead. I have been to Rauma. I am originally from Kuusamo. I have been to Kuopio. I have no trouble communicating with people in Kuopio.
@papi_dummy5 ай бұрын
even savo dialect? i heard they have some unique grammar and pronunciation@@perttisuorsa4678
@cerpida Жыл бұрын
yritäppä kuunnella karlajan murretta (ja ettiä)
@lottaraatikainen3942 Жыл бұрын
Tai Rauman murretta ;)
@twodyport80807 ай бұрын
Haha too true.
@deaganachomarunacathasaigh43444 ай бұрын
Its like learning Irish in Dublin or Laois and going to Conamara, Dúiche Sheoige, Iorrais, Acla, Gaoth Dobhair, Uibh Ráthaigh, Corca Dhuibhne, Múscraí or An Déise and hearing the dialectal differences.
@CubaNectie Жыл бұрын
It's funny how yet, I still hate reading puhekieli in anything else than txt messages haha.
@GreySectoid5 ай бұрын
Don't worry me from Savo and my new friend from Turku didn't understand each other at first at all either.
@ohadish7 ай бұрын
i think thats why its recommend to watch movies or stuff in the langusge you are trying to learn, so you can learn how to speak as if you were a native, thats how i learnt my english, its not perfect but its certainly close enough. im from israel for context
@Talvekuningas Жыл бұрын
ei tea kuidas ma siia sattusin. teeskle et mina pole siin. ok ok üritan sisse sulada.. ja ja jo minä puhuhuta souuomikkieli. olekken souimilaninnne. jja hyvi pääiva.
@TurmoilDot Жыл бұрын
Tuo taitaa olla eri kieltä, viro/eesti? 🤔
@Talvekuningas Жыл бұрын
@@TurmoilDot pitää paikkansa! Peab paika! Olen viro. I like both. They’re so goofy.
@kimmoj2570 Жыл бұрын
I will never speak english like Irish speak it. Neither do you finnish. Irish people has that really nice singing note on their speak, which is impossible to hide. It sounds very pleasant also to Finns. You will be OK. Every time you open your mouth, everyone knows you are from abroad. And not from east.
@GothamClive Жыл бұрын
When I was living in Belfast people tried to simplify their language and speak as close to received pronunciation as the could. People in Finland don't switch from puhukieli to kirjakieli when talking to me and they don't slow down. Even though my English is way better than my Finnish. No Irish person ever spoke to you in the local dialect, because they know you wouldn't understand that. Finnish people actively discourage people from learning their language.
@Ichigoeki11 ай бұрын
I've tried helping Finnish learners while in Japan, but I always end up mixing grammar from spoken language in, or even swap to it altogether if I relax too much. T-T
@None325339 ай бұрын
Im from Finland
@rootkite8 ай бұрын
Kyl se siit! ❤
@eskoikonen33064 ай бұрын
Slang and the chav-speak is beneath the puhekieli and dialects live their own lives.
@dasmarkopo Жыл бұрын
Ha ha!
@O43 Жыл бұрын
I speak finnish and in my opinion this is both true and untrue.
@roosalolxofficial Жыл бұрын
Esim hi is hei or moi
@tomirasanen9614 Жыл бұрын
Oikein suomalaiset ei edes osaavat Suome😂
@P1kk156 ай бұрын
Ihan totta
@ilikevideos4868 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, even finns might not understand Savo dialects
@roosalolxofficial Жыл бұрын
Finnish is easy language
@destinychild4659 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣😎🤣🤣
@konstatuominen6288 Жыл бұрын
So better not go to Solstheim
@Finlandia207 Жыл бұрын
Oh you have no idea how finns spoke few hundred years ago even we finns today barely understand our anchestors
@IrishinFinland Жыл бұрын
I have a video about "old Finnish" nearly ready!
@GothamClive Жыл бұрын
Why does that keep you from speaking kirjakieli to foreigners?
@Letmegoalready10 ай бұрын
Me in the corner crying beacuse i know english better than finnish (i am finnish perkele mut en tiä miks en osaa suomee nii hyvin kun englantii 😅)
@abu-faasfalluulle69433 ай бұрын
😢
@Jounisteri Жыл бұрын
Minä puhun suomea😅
@vennirajala9766 Жыл бұрын
Sama
@IrishinFinland Жыл бұрын
Jep
@cerpida Жыл бұрын
Mäki puhun suomee
@mirzaabreunykanen695811 ай бұрын
Ehkä 😂
@Toopter2 ай бұрын
Yes, true. Heres some unreadable finnish for non finnish people: Moi tänää tilin kaupasta ja käytin noin 72.52€ joten se ei ollut kauheesti. Armeija tasoni on suihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas. Ja keksin kaikki nämä minun päästäni :D