Ironjawz vs Idoneth Deepkin | Age of Sigmar Battle Report

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Жыл бұрын

The unstoppable WAAAGHHH of the Ironjawz has finally made its way onto KZfaq as Bard debuts his homegrown Urruks. Standing against him is Spider and the Idoneth Deepkin. Will it be a green tide victory, or a wash for the Idoneth?
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@ThisNameWasntUs3d
@ThisNameWasntUs3d Жыл бұрын
Ah, a clash of the titans. Bard... vs Bard's dice rolling. Let battle commence
@thebardTT
@thebardTT Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Thornsworks
@Thornsworks Жыл бұрын
Yeah someone needs to perform a dice cleansing ritual on Bard stat. There is some kind of curse in effect.
@adept5500
@adept5500 Жыл бұрын
🎲 🎲 … 🎲
@hannahgeraghty4201
@hannahgeraghty4201 Жыл бұрын
I don't play AoS at all and barely unnderstand whats happening, but these reports are still so fun just because of you guys!
@thebardTT
@thebardTT Жыл бұрын
Thanks Hannah!😊
@JK-nx1ww
@JK-nx1ww 9 ай бұрын
​@@thebardTT Hello! I just came here after binging on your on demand AoS content to leave you a message. Your Ironjawz army is stunning. Fletcher's work on the studio armies are genuinely awe inspiring but your orruks genuinely look great alongside them and don't stand out at all, which I think is a truly impressive feat. I haven't seen many comments complimenting your paintjob and I just really felt I needed to let you know that you've done a fantastic. I've paused your ironjaw bat reps several times to get a good look at them. I really hope you paint some more soon. I'd love to see your work on the new models. All the best!
@Haloister
@Haloister Жыл бұрын
You can't fool me by painting Cabbage red, I'd recognize that distinctly circular silhouette anywhere. Cheers to Bard for bringing Gordrak, always a fun character, even if when his Mawcrusher's painted green makes them look vaguely like a murderous head of cabbage.
@tristanbidwell7515
@tristanbidwell7515 Жыл бұрын
The Idoneth Deepkin are always fun to see in action. Their models are stunning and their playstyle is fun to watch. Plus it's obvious that Spider has a blast playing them. It's been interesting watching new players come in and find what armies best suit their playstyle in sigmar. Definitely helps me as I'm trying to figure out what armies to start with myself.
@bobafebobsledder4833
@bobafebobsledder4833 Жыл бұрын
everyone needs a mate like bard to play wargames with, even if hes rolling like bard hes having a ball
@thebardTT
@thebardTT Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy! Always gotta be having fun! It’s a game after all! Happy wargaming!
@harleymills8862
@harleymills8862 Жыл бұрын
@@thebardTT Think players with that kinda of mentality are what make warhammer great, can't wait to see more of these battle reports
@MovedAsMountains
@MovedAsMountains Жыл бұрын
May not change things but Gordrak can give the same command to up to three separate units in the same phase for one CP. So you all your lovely piggies and the cabbage could have had All Out Defence in the first Idoneth shooting phase. Just so you don't have to worry about saving it in the future.
@thebardTT
@thebardTT Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip buddy! My 3rd game with the Ironjawz so still getting used to them! That’s great to know and have used it before for Mighty Destroyers, but useful utility too. Although like you say not sure if it would have saved the piggies from the harpoon onslaught!
@MovedAsMountains
@MovedAsMountains Жыл бұрын
@@thebardTT those poor Piggies! A fun game all the same. With Orks we win or we Waaagh! 👍
@StrangeKvol
@StrangeKvol Жыл бұрын
@@thebardTT To be fair; with Lawrence's "lovely averages" I'm not sure anything would have save those piggies 😅
@thebardTT
@thebardTT Жыл бұрын
@@StrangeKvol this is true 😂
@StrangeKvol
@StrangeKvol Жыл бұрын
I really prefer AoS to 40K after you started making these battle reports! My only big gripe with AoS (and would love to hear what veteran AoS players think about this!) is the lack of a Toughness characteristic - a model wounds a rotting zombie just as easily as it wounds a dragon; it seems weird?!
@rabidmonkey6797
@rabidmonkey6797 Жыл бұрын
My own take on it is that removing toughness as a step is one of AoS's biggest strengths for improving turn flow. It's still there as a concept but it's baked into the save step. Whenever you have a characteristic that requires information only the other person has, you have to stop the mental processing of the step you need to got through, do a mental update based on what they tell you, including any buffs/nerfs, check how that will impact your roll, and then continue. With sigmar you remove that step and replace it with a modification of your stats only. That massively reduces load. In 40k the way to get around this is to memorise what every armies toughness is. It's basically the only way to get good at deciding what is a good trade and what is a poor trade at that specific step. As for it feeling weird think of the steps this way instead: To hit is the base likelyhood of hitting anything - not just the thing you are fighting. To wound is the base likelyhood of wounding anything - not just the thing you are fighting. The Save & any Ward saves are where the toughness of the thing come into it. A dragon may have thick scales (so a good save) and be pretty resilient to damage (a ward), the zombie has no armour (no save) but might be pretty resilient (a ward).
@maxxamillion528
@maxxamillion528 Жыл бұрын
Im the other way tbh. No interset in AoS, I wish they'd just stick to 40K. Each to their own I guess.
@simonhogg5476
@simonhogg5476 Жыл бұрын
That's what the save characteristic is for, it is the armour of the unit being hit. So you don't damage a zombie and a dragon the same as the zombie will have a 6+ save and the dragon a 2/3+ save. wound roll is a bit of a misnomer in AoS, think of wound rolls being attacks not actively blocked/missed and the save roll the armour saving the model from actually suffering damage from the strike.
@robertviscomi8199
@robertviscomi8199 Жыл бұрын
Love the recognition of taking what’s fun over what’s competstive. Love love love the aos content. Id you want fun and a challenge , the kruleboyz just got a lot of points drops and have some decent lists.
@johnbrock2182
@johnbrock2182 Жыл бұрын
Great battle report. A few rules things. The shiver only gives one shark exploding 6s. Also, sharks only get 3 bite attacks unless something is wounded or killed within 6”. So it’s best to start combat with the non exploding guy first (the cabbage died so it didn’t matter in this game). Finally, the lord doesn’t give +1 to hit for mounts. So they hit in 3s not 2s.
@visuellegedanken
@visuellegedanken Жыл бұрын
Thanks, everything I wanted to point out but looked through the comments first. Cheers!
@brianwagner8291
@brianwagner8291 Жыл бұрын
As a 40k player no matter how good of a turn I have if I don't know what my opponents units do I'm always nervous. I imagine AoS is similar.
@kalleejnar
@kalleejnar Жыл бұрын
Just FYI, you can use All out defence 3 times with Gordrak, like in Idoneth first shooting phase! :)
@JANMICHAEL22
@JANMICHAEL22 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! My 2 favourite armies, ironjawz and idoneth! I hope I can see more lovely videos with these 2 armies! Cheers!
@derekoswick6599
@derekoswick6599 Жыл бұрын
Great battle & great job presenting! Love to see the Deepkin on the channel, they're my favourite AoS army. Couple things I noticed, since I know it's difficult to keep the rules straight between several armies and across multiple systems: Bard: The Great Hand of Gork explicitly says the target of the spell cannot move in the subsequent moving phase. Maybe you had something that I missed that overrides this. But given you rolled an 8 on the charge (see 26:42), and you would have had to be more than 9" away in light of the spell placement, not being able to move would have mattered. Spider: As I've seen a few others note, only 1 Shark per Shiver gets exploding 6s, the Akhelian King aura doesn't affect mounts, and the Leviadon could have had a mount trait. What I haven't seen mentioned is that the King's aura does affect himself (at one point you mentioned he only hits on 3s, and disregarded at least one roll of a 2, but he benefits from his own +1 aura). Also, maybe this was just done off camera or the King was too far away, but don't forget about the King's other weapons (ie the falchion, don't think I saw you attack with it), and the deepmare's impact hits and attacks as well (the latter have the same 2" reach as the bladed polearm). Effectively, you saw that the Deepkin have some cool tricks, but it turns out they can hit even harder than you had thought! Love your content, keep up the great work! Also thanks for bringing a Leviadon for the battle; they're just the best army centrepiece.
@andreasrasmussen195
@andreasrasmussen195 Жыл бұрын
Ohh its so lovely, to see you guys enjoying AoS lately. Keep it up!
@luisaviles2058
@luisaviles2058 Жыл бұрын
I love 40k and starting to find interest in AOS. These models are beautiful and the battle reports for AOS seem more interactive. I love it please keep up the amazing work.
@ZK-sz8vs
@ZK-sz8vs Жыл бұрын
really glad to see some Age of sigmar games! i used to mainly play 40k, but after trying age of sigmar about halfway through its 2nd edition i've really gravitated towards it more and more, its now my main game. i just find its much more of a brawl and less of a turkey shoot than 40k. no 72" broadsides or basilisks to blast my orcs off the field lol
@daytonobre5774
@daytonobre5774 Жыл бұрын
not sure if it was mentioned but the king only effects the riders and not the mounts with the plus 1 to hit. All good though. Love seeing you all taking AoS to the channel. Always growing pains with new game systems specially when so used to 40k rules. Cheers
@obsessedpsyco
@obsessedpsyco Жыл бұрын
Idoneth Deepkin have rituals that can be used in every game. It's worth remembering that if you have a tidecaster in the list, not only can he be a Gellation champ, he allows you to use two rituals. Using the first and second rituals means turn1 you basically can't be shot, Turn 2 you add 1 to run and charge rolls. Couple this with the king's ability to make units count as high tide in turn 2, you are talking two game turns of fight first and not being shot.
@smatta84
@smatta84 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I missed this one in my feed…time to set my bell for some TT AOS
@youthanasia8767
@youthanasia8767 Жыл бұрын
Hope you like piloting the fish elves. I’m guessing they’ll be just fine in the hands and rolls of the Spider
@TNAralwaysfun
@TNAralwaysfun Жыл бұрын
I see AoS I tap like, I see Spider and Bard, I tap Suscribe 100 times lol
@consolescrub4031
@consolescrub4031 Жыл бұрын
Not to ruin the sentiment but you just opened the notification menu 99 times I believe. (Also 100 times would put it back where it started so I would hope you were subscribed beforehand lol)
@cooljoe500
@cooljoe500 Жыл бұрын
Iron Jawz were my first AoS army. I just wish they had more than three non-hero units.
@lordcastellan6091
@lordcastellan6091 Жыл бұрын
Haha brutal. Missed some helpful rules in Ironjaws but to be expected with a new army. More important, iron jaws are the premier alpha strike army. You need to out deploy your opponent so you have the choice to go first. There is rarely a reason to run anything other than a Battle Regiment core Battalion for that reason. Tough luck on the dice though as well. But if you let deepkin chose their engagements you’ll quickly end up sleeping with the fishes.
@hans8102
@hans8102 Жыл бұрын
Nice battle guys. Like the IDK!
@eo8240
@eo8240 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of building a small Deepkin force while i wait to see if there's a Flesh eater courts refresh. This game might be convincing me to make them my main army. Seem like a lot of fun to play.
@TinnierLemon
@TinnierLemon Жыл бұрын
@Spider, when you used the shiver rule at 46 minutes in only one of the allopexes within the shiver gets the exploding hits. Not that I think the orks would have survived but still
@tiktikboom2371
@tiktikboom2371 Жыл бұрын
The paint work is amazing, fletcher is amazing.
@Fatalcowboy
@Fatalcowboy Жыл бұрын
Gordrakk can issue commands to 3 units so in the opening shooting phase you could have all out defense him and the pigs.
@chriscameron9519
@chriscameron9519 Жыл бұрын
Those armies... they're so beautiful... 🥺
@johnbrock2182
@johnbrock2182 Жыл бұрын
Just so you know the turtle is a totem so he can issue commands and has an 18 range. Also,what is the turtles mount trait?? He gets a free one along with the king. His void drums are usually made 150 range.
@kyleparys6253
@kyleparys6253 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@Dino-xz9dd
@Dino-xz9dd Жыл бұрын
Id recommend using the App instead of the books to look up warscrolls. For Orcs the Gore-hacka was changed to rend -2. Also if you don't want to run the Pig-alpha-strike list I'd recommend looking into playing the big wagh faction with Ironjaw infantery. The stacking buffs make them really enjoyable
@TrebleAmp
@TrebleAmp Жыл бұрын
When is the bad moon descending over the ttt studio? :D
@leejesm
@leejesm Жыл бұрын
24:47 Morsarr guard redeploy, the unit ends out of coherency. To my eternal chagrin...units of 6 models must be within an inch of 2 other models of the same unit. I know, I get this one wrong too with the guard... if you want to widen up, put two in the back longways, and 4 in the front, maybe slanted: _ _ / / / / or dumbbell it, assuming they can't just snipe out one model. if they can, you wanna avoid this, as they can take out a middle one and get a 3 for 1 --- --- --- --- --- ---
@ThijsSchrijnemakers
@ThijsSchrijnemakers Жыл бұрын
that was one scary sounding Endless Spell
@adamray7249
@adamray7249 Жыл бұрын
Hooray Sigmar content!!!
@filippovezzoni386
@filippovezzoni386 Жыл бұрын
A great game!
@ianspeare539
@ianspeare539 Жыл бұрын
Can’t think of a fish beginning with J but then says jellied eels…doesn’t say jellyfish 😂😂😂
@redfoxvoice
@redfoxvoice Жыл бұрын
Jellyfish aren't fish though ;)
@angvelsan2287
@angvelsan2287 Жыл бұрын
Amazingly paint!
@StrangeKvol
@StrangeKvol Жыл бұрын
Also, we really wanna see Spider vs Chef - Idoneth vs Nighthaunt 🤩
@raikoumaru
@raikoumaru Жыл бұрын
How did you do the rocks the sharks and such are on? Is it foam or maybe plastic rocks or something else? I collect Idoneth and really hate the flight stands
@j.rivera1974
@j.rivera1974 Ай бұрын
"Mr. Cabbage" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jessesutton7985
@jessesutton7985 Жыл бұрын
52:10 Yeah, pretty sure everyone was saying the same at home. What horrible thing did Bard do to an old gypsy to get this kind of luck?
@thechaoshobbit1105
@thechaoshobbit1105 Жыл бұрын
Are those alternative heads on the deepkin eel riders and allopexes?
@judgemoffatt4326
@judgemoffatt4326 Жыл бұрын
Cast the dice into the fire, Bard. Stop the curse at its source! ;P
@josephrigley8974
@josephrigley8974 Жыл бұрын
I don't really care for AoS but it is Orks and I love Orks.
@Kollider115
@Kollider115 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget desperate action on the 2nd players turn. 2 heroics could have given the mega boss a heroic action on top of cp!
@alessandropatria1027
@alessandropatria1027 Жыл бұрын
anyone knows what kind of trees are those on the scenery? I'd love to have some of them to build a table scenery
@dewseff8492
@dewseff8492 Жыл бұрын
my fav ironjawz list is 3 mawkrushas 2 warchanters and 4 units of 5 ardboys, just big dragons doing all the work globbering everything
@gilowadept
@gilowadept Жыл бұрын
Dont know if Idoneth is crazy overpowered or Ironjawz rolled as poorly as I make life decisions.. great battle either way, fun and full of energy 😃
@tylerhoch8146
@tylerhoch8146 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see some Flesh Eating courts content. I’m getting into the game and that’s where I’m starting 😁
@tomeknowik2050
@tomeknowik2050 Жыл бұрын
FEC are not in great place right now but I would suspect they should get new Battletome this year
@parkerbutynski500
@parkerbutynski500 Жыл бұрын
Ardboyz should have shields that give them 6+ ward. Every 5 models gets 2 shields and there's no reason to not take them, maybe not a difference in the game but they can be annoying to kill because of it.
@keirandromgool
@keirandromgool Жыл бұрын
Jellyfish!
@redfoxvoice
@redfoxvoice Жыл бұрын
Not a fish!
@keirandromgool
@keirandromgool Жыл бұрын
@@redfoxvoice Neither are crabs and turtles, but they're in the army, so I think an aquatic theme is important here :P
@redfoxvoice
@redfoxvoice Жыл бұрын
@@keirandromgool Sorry, thought this was in response to "names of fish beginning with the letter J"
@DicingAfterDark
@DicingAfterDark Жыл бұрын
Oh Bard..... Your dice..... Your dice must hate orcs....
@thebardTT
@thebardTT Жыл бұрын
They are fickle beasts 🙈
@davidwasilewski
@davidwasilewski Жыл бұрын
Cabbage vs fish. Who can win this culinary nightmare clash?
@adamray7249
@adamray7249 Жыл бұрын
Thralls are glass cannons, holy sh*T
@samevans1813
@samevans1813 Жыл бұрын
@Spider take Lotann! The +1 to wound for all Idoneth within 12" is bonkers good. Plus he's got a fighty octopus with a club. What's not to love
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Жыл бұрын
Definitely! Going to try him next. Last game was filmed before I got some great advice about Lotann!
@rodforehand2192
@rodforehand2192 Жыл бұрын
@@tabletoptactics He's Ishrann too, so you get the rituals when you field him.
@MysterySemicolon
@MysterySemicolon Жыл бұрын
There's an old saying, "Difference between victory and loss is one goal." This was such an interesting play out with the armies. I've never seen ironjawz before and had only seen the deepkin once before. More AoS, please.
@EinheriV
@EinheriV Жыл бұрын
Great game! But Gordrakk only having a 4+ is absolutely idiotic..
@ZelunWanderer
@ZelunWanderer Жыл бұрын
Well that didn't take long for Spider to start accidentally writing OP lists. Well, I have no idea about Sigmar but I've heard the, "wow, that was a bit stronger than I thought" speech a few times before...
@MattTheMaddragon
@MattTheMaddragon Жыл бұрын
i prefer the eels over the sharks. i have been let down by the sharks every time i bring them.
@aaronbowen205
@aaronbowen205 Жыл бұрын
Comments for the Comment God! Engagement for the Algorithm!
@davidstevenson9039
@davidstevenson9039 Жыл бұрын
Aos seems fun. But insanely hard and unforgiving. You could have one or two bad turns and it’s over.
@Kimtanashino
@Kimtanashino Жыл бұрын
It's very fun. No especially hard but can be unforgiving depending on situations and armies. I had several games that were settled in 2-3 rounds and some were it was tight until the 5th round ! Heavy shooting armies can be frustrating if your army is squishy no matter how much wounds (heal points) you have. But Idoneth aren't a gamebreaking army and it's a pretty hard one to master (because very squishy as well).
@davidstevenson9039
@davidstevenson9039 Жыл бұрын
@@Kimtanashino thanks for your view, much appreciated. Hard to see from afar on KZfaq. Perhaps Spider is very lucky with his rolls!
@destendgem
@destendgem Жыл бұрын
Bard, considering how you pronounce Behemoth, you wouldn't have happened to grown up watching Robot Wars, would you?
@thebardTT
@thebardTT Жыл бұрын
Yesss Robot Wars was my jam!!
@klakhouse
@klakhouse Жыл бұрын
the player going 2nd gets 2 heroic actions and also gets to pick 2 battle tactics on this battleplan. wouldnt have made much of a difference but good to remember.
@jonathanhaynes9914
@jonathanhaynes9914 Жыл бұрын
Go deepkin
@valacan
@valacan 4 ай бұрын
This is so weird. Seems like everything in the Idoneth army hits on 2, wounds on 3, has 1 rend and does 2 or D3 damage. That does not seem balanced.
@sympathderseefahrer420
@sympathderseefahrer420 Жыл бұрын
People don't know that, but eating Orcs does go conform with a vegan diet! ^^
@SableTwoSeven
@SableTwoSeven Жыл бұрын
They're fungus after all! But as a lover of greenskins, I've gotta say that seafood tastes great too! 🤣
@TheAmazingMikey85
@TheAmazingMikey85 Жыл бұрын
The constant mispronunciation of “thrall” and “Akhelian” is driving me up the wall.
@Thornsworks
@Thornsworks Жыл бұрын
Yesssss lol at those beautiful greenskins
@petercollins2528
@petercollins2528 Жыл бұрын
lol it's hard to watch these terrible dice roles from ironjawz
@jayjericho617
@jayjericho617 Жыл бұрын
Awww, hoped for more boarding action or 40k.... there is a lot of AoS here on freeview lately.... not my up of tea at all. Voting for more 40k/Boarding Action / List analysis
@simonhogg5476
@simonhogg5476 Жыл бұрын
you can become a member if you want specific content, the Aos is a welcome addition.
@jayjericho617
@jayjericho617 Жыл бұрын
@@simonhogg5476 I was a member. Canceled my sub on the beginning of a month - lost the complete month of access I paid for.... so I am reluctant to subscribe again
@Basil_Ghothickovitch
@Basil_Ghothickovitch 15 күн бұрын
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