4:38 "lives are complicated and shit happens. shit happens and that's fine, that doesn't mean that we're any less friends just because we don't talk like everyday." -Mousey ❤

I’m glad mouse says this because so many times I feel terrible for not reaching out to my friends, doesn’t matter how much time has passed you’ll always be my friend

This reminds me of Silvervale and her implications that Vshojo girls never talked when as mouse says you can always reach from your side and people got stuff going on

The problem is if only one side is reaching out while the other doesn't because they're busy or whatever, but still engage in conversation and hang out with others on the regular, the one reaching out is gonna feel ignored or dismissed or even abandoned. Friendship is a two-way street, yes. That's why BOTH parties need to reach out, not just the one.

Growing up I wish people were just honest to me like so many times they’ve strung me along and honestly these days I don’t have the mental capacity to worry about if they really see me as their friend

I get this. When my friends are busy i usually am fine with waiting for them however long usually and would still happily spend time with them and enjoy playing with them like they never left. The only time it gets depressing for me is when i reach out to my friends and they decide to ignore me more so till the point they need me vs the opposite. Sure im happy to still spend time with them, but when they leave no room for times for me to talk about myself really, or openly show they don't care, i personally eventually find myself being drawn away from them once it seems like they dont really enjoy being around, well me. Otherwise, happy to be with those i care about. Always stick by the ones who enjoy any time you spend with them, doesnt matter if its little or alot of time. If they are happy being around you, and you with them, these are the kind of friends you should always stick with, whether you are close with them or not.

My friend didnt talk to me for a whole year because a lot of shit was going on, now we are still best friends and constantly send each other things that make us laugh. that one year didnt change anything

The thing is as noted Friendship is a *TWO* Way Street... and while sure, there are those that might try to monopolise your time., I'd argue that what always frustrates me is that I'm just as busy., I have just as much shit going on as all my old friends. And sure, it's great to sit down every month, or few catching up like old times; but the problem I've noticed is that whenever someone has something come up in their lives., such-as a Marriage, Baby, Moving, Job, etc. They'll get a new group of friends., whom they're around, talking to 24/7 and will talk about incessantly whenever you do catch up... and *THEY* are not the ones ever reaching out. You end up feeling less like a Friend., and keep in mind some of these people were at one point one of your closest friends; you might've set them up with their Husband/Wife., been at their Wedding, helped them move, etc. And again, the second they have that _new_ clique., it's like you're forgotten completely. I mean it doesn't take much to just say "Hey", "How are you?" every month or such, does it? When I do have old friends who've not spoken to in a long time., and it's always because I stop trying to keep in contact; I mean it's exhausting constantly being the one to TRY to reach out, only to get a response once in every say 10 attempts; but they contact me., I'll always respond ASAP (which is usually within the day) even if it's just "Hey, would love to catch up but not free until XXX" And keep in mind anyone who knows me., knows that Socialisation is already exhausting just generally for me... it's alot of effort to maintain contact with people; and it seems AS we've got Social Media and it's become MORE convienant to simply have a 5min conversation wherever and whenever... well it seems much easier for people to just freeze you out in favour of those they see and talk to daily. I'm not saying "Talk to me every second of the day!"., just pick up the damn phone once a month to say "Hi, you still alive?!", especially as you get older; that's a real possibility ONE of the reasons your contacting said person is to let them know of ANOTHER funeral for someone you both knew.

People need to understand that they aren't entitled to your attention 😅

This is one of those situations where it's hard for people to be objective _on both sides._ As the ladies said, they're not _trying_ to ignore you, they just have other shit going on and other people to prioritize. But on the "friends'" side? _If you wanted to make time for someone, you would make time for them._ Even if it's just a text here and there, if they're the only one reaching out, that's not really a friend. It's an acquaintance. I mean, Mouse is literally hanging out with a friend in this clip. She talks to Connor _daily._ Yes, they're both easier to make time for as they can hang out WHILE working, but from what I understand, they chat a lot offline as well. Soooo... yeah. _Speaking objectively, as someone who's been on both sides of this situation... That's not a_ REAL _friendship._ It's 1 person desperately trying not to let go of someone they cared about, only to watch them slip through their fingers anyway. Nobody is to blame! (Usually, at least). Some people just aren't meant to stay in your life, and you can't prioritize _everyone._ Whoever you choose to spend time with, _whatever you choose to spend your time doing,_ that's who and what you want most out of your life. _If it wasn't, you'd do something to change it._ Think of it this way: _Everybody wants a 6-pack.._ But most of us want to relax on the couch, watching TV, enjoying pizza and soda _more._ You just haven't admitted it to yourself.

mouses extendo arm is cool, lol

However there is limit to this, I believe. If I have friend on discord, and I suddenly notice our conversation for last half year, is me talking to myself, while they are active, I think something is wrong. Especially if some of those messages were yes or no questions, like "Are you going to be here anytime soon?" If he said "No", I would be like "Ok, fair enough". Because I understand that people have live beyond discord. But If I just see that guy active in groups, while ignoring me to point that he do not answer to question like this, I starting to get offended. What is this supposed to mean? Why am I suddenly talking to myself? And honestly it is bit humiliating.

It is very telling that vtubers and vtuber friends need adult friendships explained to them. "Oh we haven't talked or hung out in X amount of time, you're not really my friend" first, welcome to being a fucking grownup. That's how life is when you're an adult. People have lives, they have work, they have shit to do. I can go months, even a couple of YEARS, without seeing or talking to a friend because we both have our own shit going on. The true test of friendship is that when you do have a chance to talk or hang out, you just pick up where you left off like no time has passed. Second, Mousey is absolutely correct about the other person not reaching out either. You cannot complain that someone isn't talking to you if you are not making an effort to talk to them either. My mother used to say: is *your* dialing finger broken?

god its good to hear someone say these things i though i was a bad friend to being busy for months on end and not able to make time.

once my sister in law got upset my spouse and i didnt know she was struggling bc the only place she mentioned that she wasnt doing well was INSTAGRAM bitch, we dont use social media. let alone to the point of stalking the people in our lives across ALL platforms. we were even LIVING together at the time - fucking TALK to us! in contrast, one of my besties and i are both disabled. we go AGES without talking bc our health often gets the better of us. but whenever we DO message each other, its a wonderful reunion filled with love and laughter and even if one of us of having a hard time, we're there and still do our best tp make the situation less shitty. the real ones will be there when you need them, as long as you yourself are an adult about it and TELL THEM

I think she brings up a point but i gotta say i think most are wanting a best friend while you are looking for just a friend. I feel into this trap i have a great group of friends, but i aint going to lie im jealous of the fact 2 are straight up best friends. its a complicated thing being friends and its not a one size fits all, but it does suck that if your the one putting the effort into the friendship it can hurt that the other one doesn't.

100% about Silver. And Mouse is right. You cant expect people to just drop shit and come running when you call. EVEN wrose.. No one is a mind reader. You have to talk like an adult. if you want your thoughts known. . The time period Silver sited that mouse "stopped" talking to her.. Mouse was super insanely busy. Not only was she trying to buy a house.. ( remember the first house fell through), Mouse got sick ... then after she got better, she got long form covid. Working on finding another house and bought it. The coordinating an entire construction/ remodel so the new house can accommodate her. ALL while still being sick ( on top of her normal illness) Then the packing and moving. Then there was all the preping for her birthday stuff too which is months in advance. Mouse was BUSY AF during that time. Any adult would have understood that instead of whine about it. Like seriously though. This isnt high school anymore.

"I am your friend and I'll lend a helping hand But you gotta try and help yourself before I can"

The Kind of "friends" you dont need 1) Fair weather friends( they are there when your life goes wrong) 2) Friends only there cause they wants something from you(especially emotionally needy ones that wanf all your time....."hemoroid" friends) 3) Moochers of your generosity and or Status that bail when your money/food/beer/etc of Statuz is gone

I literally have a friend whom I talked to twice a year because life happens. It's like we spoke yesterday every time we talk, besties.

That "you have no reason to not communicate" thing is painfully true. Semi-recently, I had plans with a friend to hang out. Even checked in a couple of times to make sure plans were still going and talked to her extensively a couple days prior. Radio silence from her the day of until I got snippy about the lack of communication, and how this has been consistent from her. I got a two minute voice message back by text scolding me for getting impatient and about how she's going through stuff and I'm being selfish. When, how could I have known given she never told me?

word, when she says "even if two years passed, we're still friends" like it's friendship not a subscription, doesn't matter how much time passes, reach out

i love how down to earth mousey is, and she realy hits the nail on the head imo! a day only has 24 hours, and theres always so much to do, just because i dont speak to someone every day dont mean i dont care about them, it just means i deal with shit or not time for myself or my family or w/e else... and the best friends are those that realise this, and dont make a drama about it, i have friends i havent talked to in years, but when we get in touch, its like we saw the last time days ago and not years, and we catch up and have a good time and thats that ^^

I have a friend, of which we both consider each other brothers. sometimes we dont talk for half a year and still consider each other brothers despite the disconnect and shit we go through from each other between that time. He had some time free last week and we had a barbecue, it was great.

She’s probably referencing Silver and Vei.

Hmmm, I just chalked this up to being autistic but from my perspective friendships do not deteriorate through absence. They deteriorate through negatively impactful actions. Like that one time an ex-friend told me I deserve the passing of a loved one because of the attitude I had over something he wasn't willing to budge over. It was something really simple, I even made compromises, but he did not want to accept that. That shit meant I simply cut him out of my life. If that shit never happened I would have still regarded him as a friend. And it seems like it is always the neurotypical people that were the ones to go: "Oh, you haven't spoken to me in such a long time, are we even friends anymore?"

Got a buddy who's been in the Military for almost 5 years now, hung out with him not long ago when he came back home for a bit, still my fucking best friend even though we haven't really talked much in years. Same thing will probably happen when he's officially back in another 4 ish years.

I can definitely relate to Michi because I will go several months at a time without talking to my best friends, primarily because we are all busy adults and we all live in completely different parts of the country, so it’s difficult to find time to connect…but there’s often occasions I’m just not in the mood to talk to them. The good news is my friends are very understanding of this and don’t gripe if I go a long time without talking to them. IMO, if friends give you a hard time because you’re not taking time out of your busy day to talk to them, I question the friendship and wonder if it’s really worth it to be friends with someone like that. Personally, I’d rather have no friends than have friends that are extremely demanding and selfish.

Yeah I'm with all this. Even when I was still trying to find work when I still lived in California at the time before I moved, I had this friend that just wanted me to hang out with him 24/7 pretty much and I told him I can't always do that even if I have nothing going on I can't. Because I was trying to get my life back on track. He kept telling me that he got it and that he would go into his "But I'm not that kind of person I need interaction", never actually getting it cause it was the same thing every time. And I got that but I would tell him you can't just keep forcing others to hangout when they don't want to. Even when I wasn't working in the house I was living in my grandpa was paying for it so I had things to do around that house. And I got that he was going through a bad time when his marriage fell apart. And I was there for him in the beginning but he just kept self destroying himself and expected his friends like me to just keep baby sitting him. So when I got the chance to move out of state and try to build up life again I did. I met someone great and started working as soon as possible. I always left it open at the time to call me up and talk but when I got busy working and what not I would have time sometimes to call up my family and what not to talk to them. One of the last times I talked to him when he was sober he called me and then tried to say it was an accident I could tell he was trying to get me to move back but I wasn't going to. And then came the drunk phone calls again after just one again I ended up blocking him and Haven't talked since. There comes a point in time you'll have a friend like this and yet we all need those who care about us to help lift our spirits at times. But there's a big difference in that and what he did, I got that it was a heavy blow to him when his marriage fell apart but the thing he didn't see and he even got mad when I told him that he and her just weren't really all the great for each other if they were fighting all the time and wanted others to fix it for them. So Try not to be marriage/relationship therapist to others and make that clear to them that you are there for them but even if you're not working but you still have some responsibilities that you can't always be available. Also sorry this was so long.

I have one friend I don't talk to for years at a time, but we're still bros to this day, and we haven't gotten to hang out at all since Highschool, which was 14 years ago now

This is as normal as it gets. You won't be in high school forever. People have lots of stuff to do. It is what it is.

Honestly I struggle with this all the time but that’s why I only have a few friends so can manage them better. I try to hangout with whoever I can but I don’t beat myself up about it if I can’t. My friends are very understanding but I don’t like getting in habit of waiting for them to text me me whenever. I try to check up here and there and I hope they do the same. If we drift apart due to different obligations I’m fine too. I grew up a lot with friendships drifting so I’m not as sad as other people but I try to manage my friendships better because being an adult is lonely. You want to have secure group people constantly around you. But hey my friends are more like family to me so.

This is why I'm addicted to being alone, it's just not worth the effort dealing with people.

I got people I haven't talked much to in years, but we're still good whenever we do talk or meet up.

Ehh. When you are the only one that reaches out and its treated like you are being a bother then fuck it. That shit is on them. Aint nobody got time for that.

Mouse has the friend mentality of a male. We can go 30 years and all of a sudden see each other and talk as if we just saw each other the other day.

Oh boy… she didn’t name anyone, but I know someone that will probably feel called out Edit: I see the person I’m thinking about was mentioned in the comments multiple times

I feel this all the time, I always get so upset whenever I come across like I’m ignoring my friends when in reality I just have to spend some time with myself. It doesn’t mean I don’t like being with them when I have free time, and it’s hard to communicate that properly in this day & age.

tbh I used to be those kind of friends where I had complained about friends not hangin out with me anymore, that was 10 years ago (when I was 18 years old) but life goes on day by day I learned that just because the days arent like old days doesnt mean we arent friends anymore, we are still friends, learned to be happy for your friends and will be around when you and your friends have the time to hang out but thats most like every blue moon and thats okay. I learned to not focus on how lonely I am and focus on your goals and things you enjoy. those friends that constantly get on you for not hanging out with them and gas light you, its most likely jealousy. jealous about popularity or that you have your life all situated and they dont, or other things. sry that you went through that with your friends you considered close to you. hopefully they realize that their behavior caused a loss of a friend that cared for them :

omg.. same mousey~!! this is just me too.. and im glad that friends are like that too.. we may never talk everyday like we used to but if you reach out for me.. or if i reach out to them.. i know that we are friends regardless if we talk for 2 or 3 times in a year..

I'm not a talking guy. I don't need social interaction to live. I've lived 12 months without talking to people and I'm fine.

I dont know…I feel like I’m on the opposite side of this with one of my childhood friends right now. At first I kept trying to make plans but he cancelled once and other times he was just ‘too busy’. I always see him going out and hanging with other friends on his story. I know he’s not lying about being busy but I also know he could make time for me if he really wanted to. I’m busy too so the fact that I’m willing to make time for him but he won’t make time for me hurts me. In the time we haven’t been hanging out I’ve made new friends thankfully. If he ever wants to be back in my life I’ll welcome him but I’m done expending energy trying to keep the friendship.

It is a two way street and there needs to be a balance but if someone is high enough up on your priority list, you will make time for them. It is very rare that you just cannot make time for someone even if you have a job that's intensive. That's not to say that you need to be hanging out every day or every week, but when it gets to the stage where you aren't even talking anymore you need to be honest with a person if they're invested in you, be honest and tell them that they're not high enough on your priority list. Nobody is entitled to your attention but you're also not entitled to their friendship if you're unable to provide anything in that aforementioned 'two way street'.

As someone who graduated high school in 2020 (I’ll let you imagine how it felt), ever since I’ve been craving so much attention from all the friends I knew. I’ve never experienced isolation of that capacity ever in my whole life (heck we ALL didn’t). And ever since I’ve been wanting to get back together with ALL my friends again. The problem? We’re literally adults now, and they’ve moved on. I still have a hard time accepting the fact that they have so many responsibilities, mainly because this whole isolation shit really messed me up. Most of the people I’ve talked to were at times just for conversation, okay maybe I did follow their socials and such, but that was it. There were only a few people I actually physically hung out with more than all other people combined. And I want to grow that. I don’t want my mutual circle to be limited to just a few people and that’s it. Like I actually want to grow my social life and experience life the way it’s meant to be, not just to be stuck in the corner like the typical lonely kid in school (I was sort of that kid back in elementary). Yeah, meanwhile I respect everyone else’s time and privacy, I will try and look for ways to meet some more people in ways that don’t clash with our responsibilities.

my college friend group gets together for a new years party every year. the other 364 days of the year we don't even text each other. but if you saw us during that new year's party, you'd think we hang out every week.

Everything Mouse said. I feel the exact same way and it is the way I live my life as well.

You know, all I'm hearing are "these people want to make things simple but at the same time make it complicated" All I can say about these types of people is that they're just not mentally mature. Typically, you'd probably think they're not worth the time, but a more constructive way to go about it is point them in the right direction to help them, don't just drop them and do nothing, that only makes it worse. Best give them something that'll actually help them grow as a person. After that, give them some time and just wait until they feel like they're ready to come talk again.

I've been on both sides growing up but now I know, that personally it would be better to just cut it then and there, you don't have time/want to make time to hang out constantly, well its time that we drift different ways but next time you get the feeling to of wanting to hang out or talk with me again, you've become a past acquaintance that id rather not invest my friendship/time in being around, I've had some past friends that I couldn't keep going out to meet them due to moving a lot farther away which made me hang out with them way less often, and when I finally did hang out with them it was brought up if I even wanted to hang out with them, small things like that kept happening and I felt bad when I didn't/did hang out because I had other stuff going on that made the effort to hang out with them seem like it was hanging to a friendship that has gone its separate ways and me having more important things going on, so I let them know that I'm glad I was friends with them but I more than likely wouldn't be able to visit/do long distance and told them my reasons for cutting contact, which they didn't like but when I moved on it felt better knowing they didn't have me weighing on their minds.

When the comment section is literally that type of friend Mouse described...

I understand were shes coming from. it kills me that i dont talk to my friends all the time, or see them as offten as ied like. thx mouse for the wisdom.

this always makes me think of when sliver left and how she burnt so many bridges behind her acting like a little kid blaming others of not speaking to her. new flash, people dont always have time and some people can go months without talking and when they do there still as good friends as before. if you want to talk more you be the one to contact people

Me and my best friend literally never talk or text but when we see each other irl, we're back to being best friends with no awkwardness

I know it's a serious topic and that it's about something else, but I wanted Connor in this conversation 😅

It's so weird looking at Small mouse's pov of being a block tall in Minecraft.

Mouse is hella mature

It's always a two way street. I think it's perfectly justified to express your needs and frustration they aren't being met, but also understand the answer might be no. There's responsibility both way and reminding people of that is sometimes needed. But yeah unfortunately it can be there's no match. Figuring that out is part of the process and sometimes there's friction. But as someone once told me: 'friction can also polish'

That was such good advice Mouse. I lost a few friends because they didn’t address an issue they had with something I said or did and vice versa. I wish I had said something at the time and I wish they had also. I miss them to this day.

I had to learn a few hard lessions about the friends I wanted to be around. One dont drop drama on their lap or unbottle your anger and frustration. Probably the reason I ended uo losing a friend over a girl.

ah yes, the people who will have high expectations for you in the relationship (any kind), but dont apply those high expectations to themselves.

God I feel this so hard man, my brother was always like "You work all the time and you don't hang out with us." I work in armed security and I need to fund ammo and training every year and always train bc you can get into a fist fight or gun fight and you NEED to be aware of everyone who walks in the door and if they have a weapon or not. I told him this exact thing mouse said and he is still not getting it. Since then I have had to distance myself from him bc of how he acts bc he doesn't have a job or a real one anyway so he is ignorant of how it really is. I wish it wasn't the case but what can you do?

"You don't have time for us since you blew up" AKA "where's all the famous money we expect from you now?" If you have friends like that, they're not your friends anymore, they just expect to be your entourage for profit.

Same, I can talk to friends I havent for years and itll be like it was just yesterday

i cant relate since i dont have friends and when someone wants to be my friend, i reject them. the only people i want to give my time and focus is my family

I feel frustrated and sad after this. It bothers me that many people have this idea that a relationship like a friendship has one well defined meaning, and if someone else has a different want or need in regards to that relationship, they must be immature and wrong for having that want or need. I feel scared to ask my friends to hang out at this point because I don't want to come off as "too much". I think part of my feelings also stem from being defensive as well. My life is admittedly very easy, and I have far more time than my friends. I'm scared of them deciding to cut me out of their life because they have decided I am too annoying, so I don't talk with them as much as I used to. And I WANT to talk to them more, because I CARE about them. These days, I spend most of my time alone, and most days I realize I haven't spoken a single word out loud the entire day. I don't hate the girls here for having a busy life with priorities and boundaries, but it hurts to know they would see me as immature in how I feel about friendships. Everyone is different, and the definition of a friend is different for everyone.

It's kind of cap. If you care about people, you would reach out, even when you get busy. We have to MAKE time for our friends. If you go three years without reaching out to someone, you may consider them a friend, but you are not a good friend. You are using your fame as a justification to kind of be a crappy friend.

People who complain you don't spend enough time with them, that is more of a reflection of them than you. Like Ironmouse said it's a total two way street. Sometimes you have to teach people how to treat you. If they're really a true friend, they won't mistreat you on purpose and they will respect the fact you have your own life.

The same mouse who was yelling at connor for not giving her a heads up about some random thing.

Extremely mature for someone literally stuck in their room. I'm losing excuses lmao

As adults it takes a lot of effort to keep up with people. You just don't have the time anymore. If you have issues like being autistic or ADHD, you have to also consider your social battery, as general life tends to drain it. I recently connected with an old friend from the Xbox360 days & nothing had changed between us. We're just a good bit older now. Some people like myself & Mouse are just like that. Time apart doesn't dull friendship or care. I feel bad for the people who NEED to always stay in touch or they'll lose their friendship & care for others.

It may be a two way street, but the willingness to reach out differs. People who have jobs, do not have "hours" to dedicate to talking to someone, or "just one" person. Streamers are not your psychologist. Many people see the stream end, and then immediately try to jump in the streamer's DM's not realizing that that time with the streamer is over. Once a streamer gets to a certain size, someone has to act as a filter between the streamer and their viewership for the streamer's own sanity. It's then a privilege for those who actually are the streamer's friends to continue to have access to them. Like mouse makes new friends all the time, I don't see anyone going "Oh, that mouse, never has time for me anymore". I personally prefer seeing Ironmouse hang out with AICandii, Haruka, and Henya. They always are down to hang out, play anything, and the atmosphere is never hostile. But who Mouse can hang out with depends on how hard her meds have kicked in, and when she last had plasma.

" There is not enough time. We have responsibilities that we need to attend to. " Preach!

Got old friends reaching out to me after 12 years. And not few moments later, do you want to join this pyramid scheme.

Not to mention, out of sight out of mind. When you get busy, you just dont think about some people sometimes especially when you dont talk everyday

You can really tell that some of these people never had to put up with real jobs and/or real friends. Ironically Mouse fits the bill (due to her condition) but she is somehow one of the most mature and respectable person in this space 😂

I totally understand and I agree. It doesn't matter how long it's been, if we are friends and have our own lifes, work and other things to take care off, I don't mind not talking for a while because that shouldn't hinder or jeopardize our friendship. The only thing that personally gets on my nerves is when people only reach out when they want something from you. I don't mind listening to their problems and I try to give my perspective on things and what I would do and since I'm more the person that listens to others and help rather than talk about my own problems, I have no issue with that. But when it comes to friends you haven't had contact in a while and they only reach out if you could help them with something and that is the only time you are able to spend any time or even get a message from them, then that's when I find it problematic to keep up. I try do make an effort to hang out and spend time when time and schedules allow it, but if you do that a number of times and each and every time has to get put off to where you haven't heard from the person you try to hang out with for months, just to get a "could you help me with xyz" and nothing else is when I also restrain from reaching out for a bit if that's the only thing we even get in contact. It's sad losing friends because of this, but that's life. I don't mind it that much, it's just sad to lose contact with friends you had since school and the times you spent together having fun, just to get treaded as a "favor guy" whenever something comes up for them, but if you need help, the hand isn't extended back to you.

*COUGH* SILVERVALE *COUGH*

I've got friends I haven't talked to for months. But they're still my friends regardless. We also know the other one has their own life as well and things they have to do.Mouse said it perfectly when it was mentioned people have responsibilities, jobs, etc.

**cough** Silvervale **cough**

People getting upset when you have stuff to do is always a rough one, I've had to lay that out to people sometimes when they get upset that someone's not around, I'm like, they're busy or ill and gotta rest etc and thankfully the people I know now are understanding about that, but some people in the past weren't so understanding. As for me, I rarely reach out to people and I tell my friends that because I get caught in the daily cycle doing the same things with the same people and have to consciously break that cycle myself sometimes to catch up with friends. Also that time at work helps me because being around people too much can get too much unless they're really close and I find sometimes the smallest things can get annoying when normally they're fine, a little space helps.

Watching mousey build with that grabber thing is kinda satisfying also who’s the other voice because it’s not matara (unless she’s sick) it’s definitely not henya and it’s definitely not zen and it’s not haruka and I don’t THINK it’s hime so I think it has to be either geega’s or michi’s

I've had to deal with this as well, and I'm guilty of doing these things, though I have learned over the years that, like what you said Mousey, friendship is a two way street, and if they never reach out to you, and you reach out to them, yeah it kind of becomes an issue of whether or not you both are wasting each other's time. I've had to stop talking to a couple because they were cowards and wouldn't say things to my face and instead would rattle off shit to my friends and then my friends would tell me about it and agree with my sentiment, and they even defend me when I'm not present so, that's a good way to know whose really you're friend and whose not. If they have your back when you aren't around, that's a true friend right there. I have a good number of real honest to god true friends and that's something that is in short supply these days it seems, for a lot of people. I also feel like sometimes it's better to not be friends with certain people because if they aren't present during your worst times, then they never intended to be your friend in the first place, they just wanted to see you at your worst and that's how they determine if you're a good person or not. Adversity tends to bring to light a lot of things that we didn't know about ourselves. It's only during our struggles that we really need to look within ourselves and find strength to carry on. I've had to learn that the hard way, and I'm always pretty good about giving my friends their space, I sometimes don't talk to them, I try not to be a burden on anyone in my life, even though they may say I'm not, I know that part of me will always be that considerate, which is why I'm in therapy and I have a psychiatrist, because if I hadn't had those things, I wouldn't be here today, for sure. Friends are nice but sometimes even they can't help you, you have to help yourself.

Thats all nice and so on but dont forget that you can lose friends because you dont see them anymore bc of distants oder long time. And not everyone is like that, it would be nice but it isnt as easy like that. If both sides dont stay somehow in touch in 5 years, 10 or 15 years it is like you arent friends anymore. I lost some good old friends this way. People say with FB, Insta etc you cant lose the connection....only if they use it or you know their social media names of them.

barely focused on the conversation... BUT i wanna know WHAT MODPACK IS THAT?! i wanna play that!

Mouse herself said to dr K that she got hurt by friends that stopped coming around, only to never reach out in months

I stopped being friends with someone because of how they acted and what they said to a certain person that means a lot to me. I tried to see if they would take it back, but it was inevitable. For them to disrespect them was to disrespect me. That’s why we’re no longer friends. And the worst part is, it didn’t just happen to me

Ex-friend, broke up our friendship because I couldnt message her everyday and no, she never tried reaching out first. I had to be the one to reach out, otherwise its a "you haven't changed".... Like bruh, Im working, and busy, and stressed.

Glad a popular Vtuber said this. There are folks who are so bratty and demanding, and they will get pissed and block me and cancel me somewhere else cause I wouldn't give them my utmost attention. I work a full time job, I dont have time to give a shit about bratty behavior. Most of the time, folks that are bratty somehow do not have a job other than "influencer" or "creator" with no productive projects behind it. I can understand Mousey's annoyance on the whole thing since she is trying her best to be productive in a crazy world.

i agree if almost 100% of things said in this video, YET, in the era of the internet if you don't have 2 minutes to hop in discord just to say a good night or w/e quick and basic stuff... IDK

What a lot of people don’t understand is that if you haven’t been talking to your friend for a while and the last time you talked there's nothing bad going on between both of you, most of the time, there’s nothing to worry about, just reach out.

Considering if other people are friend or not, for me, is not 2 person's job. It's different than love relationship. Idc if they consider me their friends or not, what i know for sure that I consider them as a friend.

I'm VERY bad at reaching out. It's for this reason that people I haven't talked to in YEARS, I still consider friends. It's also because we didn't part on bad terms. We just drifted apart.

Having a work in a company so youll spending time to corporate world investing your energy your mind to a task that is need to be done every single day its no joke scenario ive been working for like 3 years now and im still learning btw .. but most of the time i try to message of my friend but it is what it is if they dont reply its ok and if they reply its ok ... we have all busy moment in our lives we need money to live to pay rents and bills to pay ... like food your car your motorcyle for a maintenance and people come and go don't force yourself to someone who doesnt value you .. especially if your working or whatever stuff your doing ... we all have busy lives .. stay to those friends who are still with you no matter what happen

Damn iron mouse dropping nuggets of truth and wisdom

I have friends who can vanish for an extended period, and nothing changes. We don't miss a beat. The "friends" who do aren't actually your friend. This take is possibly the most based shit I've ever heard!

I feel bad if i don’t talk to people sometimes.. i feel bad if i forget

The word for those people is "Selfish". Its not that they dont understand, they totally do, but when they are the center of the universe, your stuff to do, doesnt matter so they gaslight you into thinking otherwise and you are the "bad one". Its their nature! In my opinion you should never be friends with that type of people unless they respect your time/space, if not its beter to let thrm go foe your own good.

If you write someone a text message and they don't respond for like months or years, just fuck em, ya know.

Ive had moments where they would make plans with me but then the moment that happens they ghost me or say, "yeah ill join you in a call." and ill sit there waiting for them to join me and they never do and thats what upsets me

What about when she was gaslit by Vshoji to hate Nux? That shit is still disgusting and I'm disappointed in her for doing all that to Nux.

I partly agree with Mouse and partly don't. Sure people do get busy, and I know that I could go months without talking to some people and still be friends. But we all have phones, it's not that difficult to send a funny picture or short or text just to check in every now and again. It also depends on the friend. Some people I could go years without contact and still be friends with, and some people I may loose interest in after a year or so if they don't show any interest. But that's ok too. Not every friendship needs to last.