Is a 500cc Bike REALLY Better Than a 300cc?

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Yammie Noob

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3 жыл бұрын

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@yammienoob
@yammienoob 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you check out how to win the CBR500R for free on www.yammienoob.co !
@JesBdoinItAgain
@JesBdoinItAgain 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see u make a "so you Want a ZX25r.."
@vejanoalexander
@vejanoalexander 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't win 😢
@MrPagro21
@MrPagro21 3 жыл бұрын
Stop lying🤥🤨 Yamaha fanboys (Mt 03 34hp 18ft) and Cb500f 44hp and 28ft. I live in the uk and no mt03 can keep Up with cb500 or ktm and ninja 400. I have test ride the mt03 big downgrade from cb500f feel like a 250cc has no pull just hp. Stop lying and do a drag race quarter mile so people can see the truth.
@GeekOT1
@GeekOT1 Жыл бұрын
What would you recommend as an alternative to the CBR500R?
@Gofr5
@Gofr5 3 жыл бұрын
"Won't keep these bikes for long, 8-12 months". Me, on my third year with my 500R. O_O
@Heinzriko
@Heinzriko 3 жыл бұрын
me on my fith year with the 500R xD
@DiselSun
@DiselSun 3 жыл бұрын
me on my 190 for 1 year
@dongaboo280
@dongaboo280 3 жыл бұрын
Me on my zuma after 5 years 😬
@landonschlemmer2424
@landonschlemmer2424 3 жыл бұрын
Got a Kawasaki Vulcan 500 LTD for my first bike three years ago. Only now am I looking for something bigger. In production for over a decade, so the used parts are plentiful. Best starter cruiser imo
@rocketrollsvlogs7625
@rocketrollsvlogs7625 3 жыл бұрын
Had a CB500X for three years.
@randalljames1587
@randalljames1587 3 жыл бұрын
I have never meet or seen anyone that makes fun of someone for riding a smaller bike. As long as you are riding its all good. Be it a 50 cc scooter or a busa as long as you are having fun.
@bendover460
@bendover460 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody has ever said anything negative about my gsx250r...and Im in Harley heavy territory. Generally I get a 'nice gixxer...oh wait is that the 250 model? Bet that gets killer gas mileage!' Or 'that looks cool i bet its a lot of fun to ride' the closest I ever get to criticism is 'ya planning on swapping out the exhaust?'
@ALizardInCrimpson
@ALizardInCrimpson 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my friends roast the shit out of each others cars and bikes, but I would never make fun of a strangers bike. I'm happy to see someone riding
@randalljames1587
@randalljames1587 3 жыл бұрын
@@ALizardInCrimpson agreed
@sighenel6038
@sighenel6038 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. This false narrative is what makes beginner riders create that insecurity that would later botch their decision making in choosing the bike they want.
@lollygaggin6332
@lollygaggin6332 2 жыл бұрын
I ride a 15 ninja 300, all the guys from gsxrs to scooters to harleys all talk n wave at me. I’m a beginner too, but it’s amazing man
@strongocho
@strongocho 3 жыл бұрын
so basically the takeaway is to shop for a bike based on ergonomics, not displacement.
@jayneversober1370
@jayneversober1370 3 жыл бұрын
Should always have that mentality
@jjyy8289
@jjyy8289 3 жыл бұрын
you should buy based on value not ego.
@HexYan
@HexYan 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Exactly. People that go on and on about displacement and SPEEEEEED are the ones that usually die on liter bikes :D also....I obviously don't think everyone is like that. Just a little bit of a joke (kinda true though)
@eduardomenchaca1916
@eduardomenchaca1916 3 жыл бұрын
Thankfully for me, I’m the average US height for a male (5’9) so I fit in basically every motorcycle ever
@WTF1wr1ownage
@WTF1wr1ownage 3 жыл бұрын
Power wise theyre probably the same, but constant cruising and around town 500s are definitely more calm and relaxing to ride. Speaking out of my own experience ofcourse
@RUBBERNMETAL
@RUBBERNMETAL 3 жыл бұрын
I agree it feels planted and give you that big bike feel with bigger tires and comfier seats. Had a 500 it was a great bike.
@jonasv19
@jonasv19 3 жыл бұрын
Performance is virtually the same but the power delivery on these two bikes are very different. While the CBR500R has plenty of torque in the low to mid rpm range, it doesn't have a whole lot of hp in the top RPM's. It kind off dies down and leaves the sporty rider wanting for more. The MT-03 on the other hand only starts making torque in the mid range, and the bike only starts to feel alive when you wring it's neck. Two years ago I was stuck choosing between a CBR500R and a Ninja 400. I like the looks of the Honda A LOT better, the ergonomics fit me better etc. I ended up choosing the ninja 400 because it's just a nicer bike when you want a sporty ride. Plenty of torque in mid range, lively in the top RPM range and a good bit lighter as well.
@WTF1wr1ownage
@WTF1wr1ownage 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonasv19 agree 100%
@grumpysquid
@grumpysquid 3 жыл бұрын
The 500 is more relaxed on freeway speeds. The 300 MT buzzed at 8500 rpm at 80 mph. In town, the MT short gearing requires lots of shifting but is fun and sporty rowing through the revs.
@jamesl9327
@jamesl9327 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I've owned an R3 and now a 500r. The 500R has more power readily available in the lower RPMs whereas the R3 keeps all the power up top. In stop and go traffic on the freeway, I constantly found myself downshifting for more power. With the 500, just give it a twist and the torque will do the work. So for track, an R3 would be more fun because you can rev it out. In town, 500r all day.
@Miroch
@Miroch 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in india: a guy is driving around the city with his hot gf with that Mt 15 yahama 155cc
@stream4938
@stream4938 3 жыл бұрын
lmao ikr we still have most of our bikes in 125- 650cc segment
@ChrisWolf75
@ChrisWolf75 3 жыл бұрын
Ya but that's India and small displacement bikes are some people's only mode of transportation. In America bikes are usually more of a toy then people's daily so it becomes one big d**k measuring competition. Also Ive seen the videos of people riding around India on Kawasaki H2s and other big displacement bikes and they turn heads. What I don't see is people turning around to look at the scooters 🤷‍♂️
@hughverespinoza3926
@hughverespinoza3926 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisWolf75 come to the philippines, everybody riding a fucking scooter. Lmao
@ChrisWolf75
@ChrisWolf75 3 жыл бұрын
Hugh Luzon I've been in the Philippines Manila and Davao city I've seen it 😆
@dibyajyotisarmah2726
@dibyajyotisarmah2726 3 жыл бұрын
Lol bhai...sahi baat...🤣🤣👍💯
@eliotsalandybrown
@eliotsalandybrown 3 жыл бұрын
Music in the background is a little annoying and distracting. I liked the classical music you used to use, felt classy, distinct, and relaxed the mind.
@Joe0sanad
@Joe0sanad 3 жыл бұрын
The real reason that the 500 is having just 7 hp over the mt is the A2 license its on the edge of restrictions.
@fivespeed3026
@fivespeed3026 3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the 500 could make some decent gains from a tune.
@sganzerlag
@sganzerlag 3 жыл бұрын
The cb500 can make more power, but not that much more. Here in Brazil, where there is no A2 restriction, the cb500 makes 50.4 HP. The cb500 is a great bike, don't get me wrong (I own a 2014 cb500f and love it). But it needs to be priced competitively to the MT03, for that's its competition. It is roughly as fast as the mt03, even when the cb is in its unrestricted version.
@babyvanta
@babyvanta 3 жыл бұрын
@@fivespeed3026 Not really. Honda’s motors are generally putting down the most power they possibly can out of the factory.
@fivespeed3026
@fivespeed3026 3 жыл бұрын
@@babyvanta Not from what I’ve seen. Most manufacturers put all sorts of restrictions in the ECU to keep it Euro 5 compliant. I know it’s not going to be putting out 70hp or anything but I still think you could get some nice 5-10hp gains throughout the RPM’s just like any other modern motorcycle.
@jjyy8289
@jjyy8289 3 жыл бұрын
@@fivespeed3026 if all you're doing is changing the fuel mapping you won't see many gains on any bike. Manufacturers know what they're doing most of the time and they usually do a good job. You could maybe smooth out a few dips in the torque curve which will improve the overall ride but won't do much for power. For most people a beginner bike is just that, a bike to start on, so doing a bunch of work to it just isn't worth it because it costs money and will lower the bikes value. But if you plan on keeping your beginner bike then yeah, a 500 like the honda is a great platform for turning it into a track bike or something. You still won't be getting 80 hp but you could maybe squeeze like 10 - 12 extra horses out of it.
@PinkMuffin420
@PinkMuffin420 3 жыл бұрын
Man. I've had my ninja 250 for almost 11 years. Still kicking it.
@lexroet1215
@lexroet1215 2 жыл бұрын
You can have just as much fun on a small bike as you do with a big one. Recently I went from a 102hp bike to a 47hp absolutely no regrets I have more fun with the smaller bike.
@havikhobbies
@havikhobbies 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Honda 500 twins strong point is the torque delivery. It has a very flat torque curve and produces 90% of its peak torque not much after 2000rpm. This makes the engine very flexible and forgiving and precise gear selection less important. The 5hundos are a largely understressed power plant that is better suited to someone who wants to do lots of highway miles during the week and still have a rip on the weekend. Think of the CBR500R as a relaxed sport tourer rather than a track weapon.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 3 жыл бұрын
The displacement jump from the "500" to the 650 is actually larger than from the "300" to the "500". The MT-03 displaces 321cc and the CBR500R displaces 471cc, just a 150cc difference. Whereas the Z650 is nearly a true 650 (649cc), making a 178cc jump.
@sipsimies1588
@sipsimies1588 2 жыл бұрын
@Bilal Khalid really
@A--lex
@A--lex 2 жыл бұрын
And the horsepower jump is huge Mt03/r3: 42 hp Z400/ninja 400 : 45 hp Cbr500/cb500 : 48hp Z650/ninja 650: 67hp Mt07/r7 : 74hp Cb650r/cbr650r : 94hp
@johnmccrossan9376
@johnmccrossan9376 Жыл бұрын
I never understood why manufacturers were allowed to get away with this stuff, sure for cars when it's measured in litres and, in America it could be measured in gallons, it makes sense to call anything within 50ish ccs the round number but for tiny moto engines every cc counts
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Жыл бұрын
@@johnmccrossan9376 They're named for the class they're in, not for the engine size. On the flip side the Ninja ZX600 has a 636cc engine and Ninja 1000 is 1043cc.
@johnmccrossan9376
@johnmccrossan9376 Жыл бұрын
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 fair enough thanks for letting me know
@ahitunabowl7961
@ahitunabowl7961 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing for my morning dump!
@sebastiangeorge7714
@sebastiangeorge7714 3 жыл бұрын
In the evening?
@gearoidsheil9787
@gearoidsheil9787 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiangeorge7714 different time zones
@rubberneck2855
@rubberneck2855 3 жыл бұрын
Happy plops my friend
@rubberneck2855
@rubberneck2855 3 жыл бұрын
@@gearoidsheil9787 yeah, I'm eating breakfast in Scotland and someone in America is thinking of heading to bed while Chinese people are looking forward to finishing work and going home to dinner.
@ankush_tesla
@ankush_tesla 3 жыл бұрын
Taking a dump as well..
@torin1001
@torin1001 3 жыл бұрын
My MSF instructor said "Is more fun to ride a small bike fast than to ride a big bike slow"
@nealaddams8235
@nealaddams8235 3 жыл бұрын
I was told them same
@capo8871
@capo8871 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone fucking said that by now
@ChrisWolf75
@ChrisWolf75 3 жыл бұрын
The same principle applies to women 👍
@Hitomatoma
@Hitomatoma 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisWolf75 Wait, what? 🤣🤣
@Ytorg-d7y
@Ytorg-d7y 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hitomatoma 😂😂😂
@rgjr2376
@rgjr2376 3 жыл бұрын
Man. another great intro. I needed that. TY for putting a smile on my face.
@suvrosarkar4419
@suvrosarkar4419 3 жыл бұрын
Papa yammie bless me ! I have finally graduated to being a bikeless- squid to being a real squid Booked the svartpilen 250 today since I got sick and tired of waiting for the 401 to launch in india 😅
@aayushkumar-sp6zy
@aayushkumar-sp6zy 3 жыл бұрын
Grest choice buddy
@saumilnihal5866
@saumilnihal5866 3 жыл бұрын
Dude the 401 is in india
@HarshSingh-nb1cc
@HarshSingh-nb1cc 3 жыл бұрын
Lol seriously 😂... But the word in the market is that it will be here in India by Jan or Feb 2021.
@DrKampfpudding
@DrKampfpudding 3 жыл бұрын
A svartpilen 250 exists ??? From Husqvarna ??
@saumilnihal5866
@saumilnihal5866 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrKampfpudding lmao yeah You’ll find everything with a lower displacement in india. Stuff like the duke 200 cb160 etc
@infinity8x3
@infinity8x3 2 жыл бұрын
No one ever mentions the reliability of the Honda engine, and the fact that's it's easy to work on or have work done to it.
@2WCapo
@2WCapo 3 жыл бұрын
Paid 6k out the door for my CB500F (new), at that price I think its worth the upgrade as the Honda tends to hold its value.
@BrandonADVdad
@BrandonADVdad 3 жыл бұрын
resale resale resale!!!
@user-wn8iv1ve7d
@user-wn8iv1ve7d 3 жыл бұрын
If you buy second hand bikes, comparing honda cb300 and cb500. Here in Aus wasn’t much difference in the price. $500-$1000. I paid $4000 for cb500f
@traviss.3329
@traviss.3329 3 жыл бұрын
I got mine brand new for 4400 out the door 👀
@bowsama07
@bowsama07 3 жыл бұрын
Lol shoulda bought a mt07..
@JR-jw2du
@JR-jw2du 3 жыл бұрын
My first bike was a CB500F and i ended up holding onto it several years after i had the coin to buy a triumph (which i now have). Theyre a bloody good starting bike.
@damienvalites4515
@damienvalites4515 3 жыл бұрын
How stable is that Honda cbr500r when it MAINTAINS a higher speed? I heard up at and past 75mph it plants it's weight way better and don't shake as much. Not to mention the reliability of that Honda engine (life of atleast 150,000 miles) and you don't have to rev out as much when you stay with the flow of traffic. I seen a lot of "track guys" bash the hell out of the cbr500r during reviews as they analyze the price but if you buy one two years back with no miles on it (brand new 2018 model now) you can usually get a cbr500r for $4500 to $5000 and Honda haven't changed the bike that much in the last two years. The #1 bike people like to compare/contrast the cbr500r to is the Ninja 400 because the Ninja 400 can move faster from 0 to 60 so people usually pick the Ninja 400 over the cbr500r. But people don't usually favor a cbr500r based on speed, Besides the cbr500r being a really great looking bike, they get it because it's a solid, reliable commute bike with a hell of a lot gas mileage (60 to 75mpg for the cbr500r is outstanding) plus it doesn't shake at higher speeds when it's staying with the flow of traffic. How many guys do you see often say that with 300cc bikes they feel less safe on the highway because they feel too rev'd out once they get to a decent rate of speed and why the hell would you want to buy something you know you're gonna sell later or trade out of anyway? Some people have different outlook on buying a BEGINNER bike but if I had to pick the most solid "BEGINNER BIKE" for COMMUTE that you're way more likely to keep as an additional bike as an additional bike for added mpg and "not trade out of" or re-sell later on, I'd definitely pick the cbr500r (bought new 2 years back or USED with very few miles on it).
@James-qr5hx
@James-qr5hx 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a sport bike person, but what I will say is everything you just said is exactly why I'm getting the Rebel 500. Perfect for the commute, great gas mileage, will last years in all weather and enough power for the odd journey on the motorway. I don't need anything else. Yes, a big cruiser would be nice later as a pure sunny weekend toy, but for anything else a 500 to 650cc engine is easily enough
@MrPagro21
@MrPagro21 3 жыл бұрын
I did 95mph with wife 60ml and back no problem.
@dylanmorse8739
@dylanmorse8739 3 жыл бұрын
On my CB500F, I've ridden the interstate at sustained 80+ MPH on multiple occasions, with a couple of times hitting up into the 90's. The bike's speedo (actually both of my recent Hondas) are within 1-2% of the GPS when using Google Maps on 2 different phones. The bikes are geared a little short (for city commuting purposes I suppose), but any of the CB500/Rebel500 bikes would be a good bike for occasionally hopping on the I-40, compared to anything smaller/lighter.
@jjyy8289
@jjyy8289 3 жыл бұрын
Most people can't afford more than one or two motorcycles at a time currently so their outlook on a bike goes something like this: starter bike for cheap, trade it for a good all around bike (ie a middleweight naked or adv) then when that's paid off get one for fun (sport, dirt, touring). I'd love to have kept my little 250 honda that I started on but it just wasn't in the budget. And that's the main downfall of the 500s, they don't provide nearly the value of the 300 class. Yes they are more planted and stable on highways, but since most people will only have their beginner bike for a little while it's just not worth $1-3k to have a bit more of a stable, comfortable ride. If you can afford to keep your first bike, or only want one to commute with, or maybe your commute is mostly on highways then yeah I'd understand getting a 500. But it's rare that anyone meets any of those conditions. If you plan on starting with a small displacement bike the 300s are just better value for the vast majority of people.
@needparalegal
@needparalegal 3 жыл бұрын
You will wreck it long before you get to 100k miles...
@WL2K
@WL2K 3 жыл бұрын
You should have compared the 500F against the MT03... its naked, I think has shorter gearing,and costs a little less than the 500R, making this comparison much more valid
@timsretirementjourney8323
@timsretirementjourney8323 3 жыл бұрын
Just from an observation the R3 looks cheap compared to the Honda. I'd also guess on the highway the Honda would feel more planted and comfortable being that it's heavier.
@tomalba7
@tomalba7 3 жыл бұрын
You should see the r3 in person I saw one a few weeks ago I thought it was a way more expensive bike and also I thought it was a larger displacement pretty surprised
@simey5639
@simey5639 3 жыл бұрын
I'd probably get a r3 but the seat is way too low for me
@bboykiddblack
@bboykiddblack Жыл бұрын
Correct
@justinlyons5159
@justinlyons5159 3 жыл бұрын
Josh is gonna bring a great new rider perspective to the channel... I'm excited to hear his opinion more often
@ethanleno5259
@ethanleno5259 3 жыл бұрын
i’m not
@hilmiyahya3027
@hilmiyahya3027 3 жыл бұрын
We south east asian could never relate the term "small bike" on these 300 if not the 500. Here, a 250 too fast for the road, even a 150 is decent to go highway at 60-75mph
@ignaciorudloff1520
@ignaciorudloff1520 3 жыл бұрын
Why, they have more power because of the lack of regulations, or everyone use a slow bike on big roads?
@rollakid
@rollakid 3 жыл бұрын
@@ignaciorudloff1520 South east Asian here. I would actually say it's the sheer amount of traffic. There's probably the same amount of motorcycle as cars on the road at where I'm staying, most of them mopeds (think honda super cubs) between 100-150cc. the 150cc mopeds would be able to do 75mph easily, they probably weight between 200-250lbs. 250/300 are considered to be entry into "big bike" territory. And in Indonesia/Malaysia, anything over 250 would involve more tax and/or different license.
@ignaciorudloff1520
@ignaciorudloff1520 3 жыл бұрын
@@rollakid for what I can tell you have less emissions regulations, therefore your engines have more punch. I have seen videos going 150 km/h on a 150 cc like wtf that's owesome. And all the new models are tested and released there
@rollakid
@rollakid 3 жыл бұрын
@@ignaciorudloff1520 hmm I'd say that the stock standard motorcycle isn't far off the rest of the world, but enforcement are weak. A lot of illegal mods for 150cc bikes, increase bores and strokes, new engine block, intakes exhausts ecu, and with lightened parts you're looking at 100-120kg machines dyno 24hp at the wheel. Typical men weight 50-70kg here and you can probably do the math...
@pmwaffle9348
@pmwaffle9348 3 жыл бұрын
You guys use km/h not mph. Those bikes 125cc are not going 100-130kmh without hitting redline on 6th going downhill
@mejiaxel19
@mejiaxel19 3 жыл бұрын
Next time you guys do the 0-60 a timer in one of the corners would be helpful! Great video!
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 жыл бұрын
Ninja 636 makes 125hp. Ninja 650 makes 67hp. That 14cc is really holding it back
@jawz3102
@jawz3102 3 жыл бұрын
Like a fat girl in a civic.
@blaze00366
@blaze00366 3 жыл бұрын
A 4 cylinder vs a 2 cylinder different classes I have a 98 cbr 600 f3 105 hp
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 жыл бұрын
@@blaze00366 for power and speed 4 cylinder is much better than a twin.
@lexroet1215
@lexroet1215 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrishart8548 the difference is mind boggling, my old cb600 2008 4 cylinder had 102hp my current cb500 2019 2 cylinder has 47hp
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexroet1215 all the old 500's used to make 60hp gpz500s cb500s etc not 600/4 power but still not bad. Loved my 1989 gpz500s in red/white with the 16" wheels. Looked better than the later one. DOCH liquid cooled 8valve was cutting edge in 1986.
@MrKillervincent
@MrKillervincent 3 жыл бұрын
Both of these bikes also had the a2 licence restrictions in mind, you dont have to restrict either of them on a2 (even though the cbr500 is on the limit) where as the mt07 and cbr650r have to be restricted to be a2 legal, like the ninja 650 too 👍 Basically as spite said the cbr may have a bigger engine but it isn't so highly tuned to rev out so have a similar output (and hondas are expensive in america but actually pricedpretty competitively here in the uk)
@jameshenderson9830
@jameshenderson9830 3 жыл бұрын
Really good content guys.
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 3 жыл бұрын
Yams you can hate all you want but I love the Honda cb500f. It got plenty of power for a new rider. Its more comfortable and feels more premium than any other starter bike out there. And has good torque and fuel economy. The only reason this bike only makes 47hp is so it’s A2 compliant. Which doesn’t matter here in the US. I’ve seen cbr500rs with a tune and exhaust make 58hp to the wheel. The potential is there, it’s just not utilized for us here in the states
@halfinger912
@halfinger912 3 жыл бұрын
If it can do wheelies it suits me just fine
@paxas03
@paxas03 3 жыл бұрын
Why comparing the naked mt03 and not the r3 with cbr? Would make more sense.
@richardmcknight4147
@richardmcknight4147 3 жыл бұрын
OR the Kawasaki 300 even!
@2wheelsonly614
@2wheelsonly614 3 жыл бұрын
Cuz ge probably doesnt have 1 to compare.
@cristi_mx
@cristi_mx 3 жыл бұрын
Cuz the mt 3 and r3 are basically the same except the fairings
@original_wave5080
@original_wave5080 3 жыл бұрын
Because the mt 03 has the exact same engine and is practically the same built except for the fairings.
@jamesl9327
@jamesl9327 3 жыл бұрын
The only differentiator would be appearance and ergonomics between the R3 and mt03. They're main focus is power delivery
@Globeldrifter
@Globeldrifter 2 жыл бұрын
that was helpful thanx x
@trunktoyz
@trunktoyz 3 жыл бұрын
Great intro music!
@anirudhps1150
@anirudhps1150 3 жыл бұрын
This video is such a eye opener!!
@Strdyaftrnoon
@Strdyaftrnoon 3 жыл бұрын
You know it doesn't matter in our country tho😂
@anirudhps1150
@anirudhps1150 3 жыл бұрын
@@Strdyaftrnoon haha nothing matters in our country
@toby5280
@toby5280 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet papa yam providing me with much needed info! Thanks papa yammie!
@coldmoonlight6361
@coldmoonlight6361 3 жыл бұрын
Great music choices
@cityfisherman89
@cityfisherman89 3 жыл бұрын
so glad i am past the point of wanting to go fast my 300 is just fine
@bulletproof4716
@bulletproof4716 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I ride the Honda Grom now
@garymcaleer6112
@garymcaleer6112 3 жыл бұрын
Great Intro, Bro! The sound of a Spanish bull fight! Who shall be the victor?
@dylanmoe4320
@dylanmoe4320 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for steering me in the right direction, got a ninja 650 2021
@thechosen5805
@thechosen5805 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people think you will keep a smaller cc bike for only 8 months to a year. How about just as long as you would keep a bigger cc bike. Why do everyone want something bigger and faster and the speed limit in the us on highways ranges for 55-75.
@Noyon23
@Noyon23 3 жыл бұрын
Great intro papa yam😃
@Sunnyside845
@Sunnyside845 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a cb500f cuz of these gas prices and couldn’t be happier. Also insurance is $12 a month in NY
@lastdimestudios
@lastdimestudios 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly in the uk when they moved the age up to 24 and then recently you have to pass your big test on a 600. The 500 and lower cc are mainly aimed at the sub 24 year old.
@GromGuy19
@GromGuy19 3 жыл бұрын
One benefit not mentioned is that with the 500 you have a lot more power down low in the revs
@BonjobyBasketball
@BonjobyBasketball 3 жыл бұрын
Idk Yam, I've got a cbr500r, rearsets and clipons for sportier ergos, decat and lowered the front triples for better tipin. And I run laps around 300s at our local track. The extra torque really helps on the drive out of corners. And the extra weight isn't really noticable once I adjusted the geometry.
@arniet1
@arniet1 Жыл бұрын
And according to google etc, the cbr500r does 70mg whereas the yam r3 (which would be a fairer equivalent than the mt03 in terms of sport bike styling) does less than 50mpg. Correct or wrong?
@benton211
@benton211 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I did learn
@sammibooy1
@sammibooy1 3 жыл бұрын
Couldnt agree more with the point made at 7:03 I too am a larger dude (6'1" 225lbs) and am relatively new to bikes and do mostly in town riding (25mph-50mph). So bikes like the CBR500R are perfect bikes for me.
@marcusespinoza2961
@marcusespinoza2961 3 жыл бұрын
The intro was like a baby F9 video. Neat.
@yanierolivera4678
@yanierolivera4678 22 күн бұрын
“So, those extra 50 cubes slow down the bike”. 😂. What a comment!!
@tmmmedia731
@tmmmedia731 Ай бұрын
This is the kinda stuff I need to know!
@lemalujnr23
@lemalujnr23 3 жыл бұрын
The Honda CBR500R is not sports bike but more a sports tourer as it has 17.1 litre tank vs MT03 with 14.0. So for US it’s better touring mileage and more comfortable for taller riders without having to rev it hard all day. MT03 is fun but I would prefer the 500 for the longer highway rides.
@grumpysquid
@grumpysquid 3 жыл бұрын
My 2020 MT03, 8500 rpm at 80 mph. About 52 MPG
@syrex4213
@syrex4213 3 жыл бұрын
That may be a good comparation in US but in Europe it's not. Those bike are made for those with a2 license. In Europe you can get the A driving license at the age of 24 or after you had A2 license for at least 2 years . From my point of view Honda it's the winner: better quality, more stable, more reliable, comfortable, more than enough power to play with while you learn to ride and lower fuel consumption.
@josephmichael4219
@josephmichael4219 3 жыл бұрын
Does that apply in every part of Europe? I live in Spain and I just recently got interested in riding motorcycles and have yet to get my license. I'm 23 and will be 24 in a couple of months. I always heard about this, but whenever I search on the internet, there are never any results saying that this is true... maybe it's not the same?
@someone-eg3mc
@someone-eg3mc 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephmichael4219 it's the same in all europe
@minnsminns
@minnsminns 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephmichael4219 The guy that replied to you is wrong, it is absolutely *not* the same in all of Europe. The licence classes A1, A2 and A are the same but the ages are decided by the country as long as A1 is 16 or more, A2 is 18+ and full A is 20+. Best thing is to ask a school in your country who will know the actual answer, not some random person on KZfaq.
@minnsminns
@minnsminns 3 жыл бұрын
@@someone-eg3mc it isn't...
@tiagofigueiredo2529
@tiagofigueiredo2529 3 жыл бұрын
@@minnsminns In Portugal is the same 🤷‍♂️ A1=16, A2=18, A=20 or if you never had a motorcycle license, at 24 you can take your A category license.
@imagamerful
@imagamerful 2 жыл бұрын
Yammie: Don’t be a spec sheet warrior Also Yammie: Don’t buy the Honda 500, it’s too heavy
@bk83082
@bk83082 3 жыл бұрын
Just focusing on displacement while ignoring cylinder count and configuration. "The 500 class" was around well before the ninja, even if we're talking modern era sportbikes. I'm going to ride my interceptor 500 with 69(nice)hp and 12k rpm redline.
@dustinstewart9027
@dustinstewart9027 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@marcalampi5036
@marcalampi5036 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video
@dibyajyotisarmah2726
@dibyajyotisarmah2726 3 жыл бұрын
Damn the poetry..!! 🤣🤣👍💯
@dumbcat
@dumbcat 3 жыл бұрын
i had a ninja 300 for a while. it was great riding alone on back country roads but on the busy freeway i was almost run off the road by a van i had trouble accelerating away from, and almost run down in the city by a honda i had trouble pulling away from
@Bamboomerz
@Bamboomerz 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2015 CB300F and now a 2005 GS500F. I haven't found a huge difference either except that the GS500F takes on the highway MUCH better. I like getting out on just some highway cruises and it DEFINITELY has a noticeable difference. That being said I missed the nimble nature of the 300 and also better brakes... From my experience I would definitely say its an upgrade but don't get them new... Just buy a used 500. Unless you stay in the city mostly then the newer 300 class offers more stuff like ABS and better handling. I do miss my 300, if I'm only commuting the highways the 300 is nice.
@jayblow77
@jayblow77 Жыл бұрын
The 7:09 point was extremely helpful for me. I big and tall like your partner and need to find a first bike that fits me.
@alainpaquin627
@alainpaquin627 3 жыл бұрын
Like you mentionned, the CB500R would be better for bigger people than the MT-03. Power to weight ratio, they're both pretty close. As far as price wise, it's normal to see a higher price on the CBR500R for several reasons: fit &finish, roomier, more stable on Hwy's because of its weight, its longer wheelbase. its larger tires and its "full fairings" which also add to the cost. BTW, my girlfriend has a 2019 CB500F and she likes it a lot even if she's had many bikes way more powerful (CBR600RR "road & track", GSX-R600 "road & track", FZ6, FZ6R(2), SV650(2), FZ-07). I also have a 2019 R3 to enjoy when riding with the girlfriend on some rural roads with nice curves even with more than 40 years experience on road & tracks and more than 800,000 km in North America (US & Canada) and one trip in Europe. Ps. I still have a 2020 MT-10 & a 2018 GSX-S1000F to ride and for the first time in many years, I don't have a track bike in 2021 but I may do one or two track days on the MT-10. Good work btw, keep going. AP from QC, Canada.
@andrewmilhoan3568
@andrewmilhoan3568 3 жыл бұрын
I picked up a CBR500R as a replacement for my aging 5th gen VFR. I’m a big dude like Spite so the slightly roomier 500 vs 300 is a good thing for me. The VFR was awesome for highway riding, but I would much rather take twisty back roads and the VFR is a pig weighing 100lbs more than the 500 and you feel it riding around town or on tight technical roads. I’ve ridden pretty much every configuration of sport bike from 1000cc to 250cc and I think the 500R is a great middle ground for a commuter and weekend backroad runs. It’s typical Honda quality, it’s predictable with handling, and very forgiving to rider input errors. It’s vanilla like most Honda bikes, but as I get older the thought of splatting on the road at 130mph seems less and less appealing. There’s fun to be had on this bike, and you can give it the beans without losing your license. I do agree with your point about the bike being way overpriced though, it really should be closer in price to the Ninja 400.
@mikefreedom8881
@mikefreedom8881 2 жыл бұрын
Up here in Canada, the bike cost almost a full thousand less for some reason ($6,300 USD), which is reasonable.
@scaryman101086
@scaryman101086 3 жыл бұрын
300 and 500 cc are mostly a2 license (europe max 35 kw) while 600/650 cc are full a license. That is what makes these bikes quite similar on hp and (raw)performance.
@linepulse
@linepulse Жыл бұрын
residual value, second hand demand market, suspension and brake operation, maintenance, dealership locations, after sale service, stock availability, service intervals.... Typically things I wanna know and test once you start comparing these kinda closely linked displacements. The comments have been super interesting. Very useful.
@ariealberto6499
@ariealberto6499 3 жыл бұрын
you guys read my mind with this video I was wondering if I should wait for the 490 lineup of ktm or just go right now for a 390 I know you're not discussing this particular bikes, but still Good input
@FierceMotorworks
@FierceMotorworks 3 жыл бұрын
I think people don't talk enough about mid and low range when comparing HP and torque figures. If I'm in top gear and I want to pass someone, I'm sure the CBR500 would have more low end grunt and acceleration than the MT03 that needs to be above 7k rpm to make the same power. Open the throttle vs. downshift AND open the throttle
@carlll6101
@carlll6101 3 жыл бұрын
Christ, background jingle is horrid and it's interfering with main content
@BasedGrimace
@BasedGrimace 3 жыл бұрын
I turned the video off, can't do it
@TheG60528XiJinPing
@TheG60528XiJinPing 3 жыл бұрын
It's certainly less than ideal
@tjcmoto5484
@tjcmoto5484 3 жыл бұрын
The music should barely be audible not as loud as them talking.
@noahdamico569
@noahdamico569 3 жыл бұрын
Might as well have a fire crackle In the background
@MrSneakmind
@MrSneakmind 3 жыл бұрын
It's terrible agreed, I honestly prefer yammies older videos
@RUBBERNMETAL
@RUBBERNMETAL 3 жыл бұрын
Had a CBR500R it’s a great bike. It’s the same argument I have with other guys in my country where the Yamaha R25 is popular: why would you get a 500 that has the same top speed as a 250? It’s not all that. The things on paper you need to consider too are built quality and reliability. The 500 is a bike that is undertuned so you’re never really pushing the engine and I’ve hit top speed it’s so stable I feel it could do with a bit more power. It’s comfier over long distance, more planted and Honda quality is unbeatable. But if I was 18 years old, I wouldn’t listen to myself lol
@Tadena22
@Tadena22 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for it to have a bad ass exhaust
@anotheryoutuber_
@anotheryoutuber_ 3 жыл бұрын
would like a running stop watch on those o-60 pulls
@TheWesternPacific
@TheWesternPacific 2 жыл бұрын
America had the flaccid Ninja 250 @ 36hp / 375 lb wet in the 80s and 90s. Meanwhile Australia and Japan had RGV250s @ 62hp / 345lbs wet. Best beginner bike ever
@Ichibuns
@Ichibuns 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember right, there're something with the stock cams in the Honda 471cc that can't handle the higher rpms that are required to reach the power it could achieve. For a P-twin it has a low redline. The motor could easily be improved to fix this but then it wouldn't be A2 compliant. What you end up with is relatively good low end grunt for a P-twin A2 bike.
@franzsinisco2985
@franzsinisco2985 3 жыл бұрын
Super nice intro 👏
@levitillie4960
@levitillie4960 3 жыл бұрын
Always Sunny? Nice Yammie, nice.
@isaacdelima1825
@isaacdelima1825 3 жыл бұрын
Another hit job on a great bike
@doublett4193
@doublett4193 3 жыл бұрын
That naked bike sounded dirty and I love it.
@alandzack5508
@alandzack5508 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, You should make vidoes about Supermoto aswell as these sport bikes and so on, Would be great! -Cheers
@vwjet357
@vwjet357 7 ай бұрын
Small bikes like the ninja 250 have their place as a good commuting bike for city/backroads. Winding backroads with lots of corners, even going 40mph feels pretty nice. I ride both my Ninja 250 and Yamaha Zuma 125 on these roads and only need to get to 50mph, but I often go 60mph on either bike. This kind of riding is really fun for a lot of people like me.
@BreezyRider66
@BreezyRider66 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about us riders who are of a certain age and in the process of downsizing. It's personal of course but for me at 55, currently riding a V-Strom 650 the CB would appeal for being smaller & lighter but still a "grown-up" bike, by which I mean comfortable enough and capable of long distances. The MT-03/RC390/390 Duke/Tracer 300, etc. I'd find a bit too frantic/high revving and not really very suitable for longer distance riding. Most of us would probably be less concerned about the price difference than younger riders and more likely to buy a bike outright than take a PCP deal...
@samuelgarcia1734
@samuelgarcia1734 3 жыл бұрын
Now the trident is out and looks amazing just get that for the frist bike
@hoppilandkalle
@hoppilandkalle 3 жыл бұрын
You know I all ways wanted a Honda cbr 500r but I couldnt get it at the time also I was underage but I got my fathers old gs when I I got my license he gave me his old gs and after riding it for about a couple of months now I still want the honda cbr 500r but I mean I love my gs It was the first bike I ever owned but like lord yammie says add the number of bikes you own +1 so... but yeah love going off road on my gs but it would be nice to have a full road bike but ADV bikes are still pretty epic!
@WhiteMetal_
@WhiteMetal_ 2 жыл бұрын
Btw this music is 00:01 liszt 's Hungarian rhapsody no.2
@danny9405
@danny9405 3 жыл бұрын
Kept trying to decide whether I wanted to start with a 300 or a 500 and ended up with a used 750 from Craigslist. Wasn’t my first choice but apparently my bike is a good starter bike so we’ll see.
@WilsonFabrication
@WilsonFabrication 3 жыл бұрын
learned how to ride on a ninja 250, picked up a ninja 500 a couple years ago and now its turbocarged, also have an aprilia rsv mille but i still take the 500 out once in a while. i think everyone should own a super simple to work on and modify bike like the ninja 500. perfect to learn how to ride and how to work on bikes and crazy easy to make it your own
@dezzywikins
@dezzywikins 3 жыл бұрын
Love my ninja 500. My first bike and my favorite that I've ridden
@M82Predator
@M82Predator 3 жыл бұрын
My first season riding. About 2500 miles from July to now, bike is a 2020 ninja 400 ABS. I plan on keeping it for at least 2 more seasons. If I wanted to go to a zx10r, R1, or an RSV4 would that be fine to jump from 400 to a bike like that? Thanks. I did take the MSF last year.
@scrambler9014
@scrambler9014 3 жыл бұрын
Ktm 490 series has started there production, it will presented in eicma by the end of the year 2021 and reach the global market by 2022. These 490 machines are gonna be super woww. I own a 390 duke cannot wait to see them and hop on them.
@BikerBrad72
@BikerBrad72 3 жыл бұрын
Make a pillion video where you talk about the pros and cons etc and take eachother on the back xx
@780_triple5
@780_triple5 3 жыл бұрын
PAPA YAM! I know they're not quite comparable to the naked/sport models, but how do you think the Rebel 300 and 500 fit into these categories? Do you think they're comparable/competitive models at all? They definitely have the market for short learners (often females) up here in Canada!
@HightLink
@HightLink Жыл бұрын
Got the cb500x and I love it. Yes, sometimes you feel the need for more power but I think that will be the case with any bike once you start to get used with it. What I don't like is the way it leans on the corner as it's the X version.
@finleyl.2822
@finleyl.2822 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping me make up my mind. I was debating a Kawasaki Ninja 250r vs 500r. I think the 500r is a better fit for me
@seinfeld11123
@seinfeld11123 3 жыл бұрын
I like this format Yamm!!! just one thing. when you compared the acceleration between R3 and cbr. do them together aka a race. just looking at 2 bikes revving. no real reference.
@fidjdbdjficbfk7944
@fidjdbdjficbfk7944 3 жыл бұрын
Why put them on the track ? The CBR 500 R is a beginners bike for street use. Its a great allrounder with nice ergonomics and a cool look. R3 is the little brother of racing machines. Its basicallly made for the track and the curves and will be a mess in the streets if there is a little more traffic
@xenofonzabetakis9013
@xenofonzabetakis9013 3 жыл бұрын
well the lower rev range has its advantages in some aspects. I personally prefer the sound of a lower reving engine plus lower revs equal less vibrations and less stress on the engine plus it offers more bhp. I think a cb300x for example would be a bit of dissapointment
@theclash181
@theclash181 3 жыл бұрын
I know nobody asked but @the pieces in the beginning: Hungarian Rhapsody No.2 (I think) by Franz Liszt
@NN501st
@NN501st 3 жыл бұрын
So what I’m getting from this is that my used 600cc FZ6 was a good starter bike for me.
@mikeloipou5467
@mikeloipou5467 3 жыл бұрын
Let's go I love papa yam
@seancooper779
@seancooper779 3 жыл бұрын
I had to switch off before the end of the video because the music was doing my head in.
@stefanhansen5882
@stefanhansen5882 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your show, and I have a question, since I am looking to buy myself a bike: Why do you make it sounds like it's obvious that these two bikes are only to be owned for less than a year???
@dori3590
@dori3590 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a comparison between the cbr500r and the r3. Im lookin to get 1 of those in the near future =). Keep up the good content!
@Devans1227
@Devans1227 3 жыл бұрын
MT03 is basically a naked R3.
@gronkgrunk
@gronkgrunk 3 жыл бұрын
R3 may be a little lacking in power but makes up for cheap maintenance & flexibility as an all rounder. Engine's quite reliable, it can take all the daily abuse without any problems. Been riding mine for 5years now and it's perfect as a fun, daily ride.
@billybradley1455
@billybradley1455 9 ай бұрын
The honda rides and pulls so well. Makes usable torque without making a fuse. My 500f out pulled a 700 a few weeks ago pulling a step hill. Thanks to the gearing, I might drop 1 gear as opposed to 2 or more.
@frinto4771
@frinto4771 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Indians..., They took our superbike and made it their beginner ones. ( Or wise versa)
@nikhilnihalani9077
@nikhilnihalani9077 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! This hurts sometimes.
@babyvanta
@babyvanta 3 жыл бұрын
We also took your luxury cars and sell them as economy shit boxes.
@draig3963
@draig3963 3 жыл бұрын
@endangered species he is probably a 12year kid just ignore whatever shit he is typing, he is one of those who dont know anything about india.
@frinto4771
@frinto4771 3 жыл бұрын
Btw, the way I meant it superbikes are like we usually start with the 125s and the 150s. We still has the literclass bikes and they are our superbikes.
@the_number_one
@the_number_one 3 жыл бұрын
@oreo2k Yeah. I am not sure what these guys are talking about. Haha
@mattslobodin6654
@mattslobodin6654 3 жыл бұрын
What about the Honda Cb1? 1985 399cc Great naked bike from the 80s. Had one and loved it. I'd like to see it matched up with the 399cc class of today
@richardhopkins9493
@richardhopkins9493 2 жыл бұрын
Question, which do you prefer in the naked bike clash between these two bikes. Kawasaki Z400 or the Honda CB 500F. I am up there in my years and I would still love to ride a bike again but I don’t want anything too heavy or too fast. I love your videos and I value your advice. I am 5 11”and I weigh 175 pounds.
@Mike40M
@Mike40M Ай бұрын
Have a 2013 Ninja 300 as my modern road bike. At 5'8" it fits me like a glove. As a classic roadracer, I don't need more than 110MPH on a road bike. Effortless cruising at legal speeds. On track days vice-free good handling and adequate brakes. Of course passed on straights but late braking and fast cornering makes it competitive to many bigger sports bikes. Only time I've wished for better suspension was when touring the Isle of Man Mountain Course. I like the lack of low end torque which makes it similar to my old RDLC and Manx. Though enough low end power for a beginner. The modern 500 class bikes are a bit overweight for my taste.
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