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Short answer: Yes.

As a computer science major who will soon be working in NYC as a software engineer, I agree with many of the points in this video. My first-year salary will exceed $100k after only a bachelor's degree. Although this is due to a combination of several internships done during college, the cost of living in New York, and sheer luck and blessings, many of my peers are also finding roles with great compensation. if any high schoolers, college students, or even people out of school are considering learning how to code, I strongly urge you all to make the leap.

Short answer: yes. Graduated with one in December 2018. Now I make 80K at my job as a Full Stack Engineer. The best strategy is the degree and an internship or paid work to get a job. It was well worth it.

One of my classmates from college was a former software developer. He managed to break into the field without a CS degree but the company he worked for had to downsize. They decided to lay off all employees who didn't have a 4-year degree. It's an anecdotal example but having a degree in CS or a related field is a good investment for increased job security within such a volatile field of work.

Doing my cs degree right now. Not gonna lie, it sure ain't easy but it's definitely something I love doing!

Here's another con: CS is not an easy degree to get. I'm currently a graduate student in computer science and I also teach freshman computer science courses (I'm a teaching assistant so I teach labs, professors give lectures), and from what I've seen, at least 40% of the freshmen entering computer science will be weeded out by the end of the year. Or as Tren Black would say: business by christmas. Also very important: contrary to what a lot of people think, CS is NOT software engineering. You're not just going to be writing code all the time, you're going to have to study algorithms, data structures, formal methods, discrete math, computer architecture, etc. If you don't like math and you're not good at math, you better buckle up and start reviewing or you too will be "business by Christmas".

It's been 4 years since graduating with my computer engineering degree. Pay is amazing. Benefits are amazing. Flexibility is amazing. The projects are (usually) interesting. There are so many openings in computing. There are so many business opportunities as well. It's absolutely insane! I think companies are really, really desperate for talent right now. I got lucky ending up in Silicon Valley but there is no doubt in my mind that the degree is extremely lucrative anywhere in the developed world. At my university, computer engineering was 85% computer science, 15% electrical/electronics engineering. It's functionally equivalent to computer science as far as the industry is concerned. I chose to take robotics electives in school but don't actually use those skills in my job. I'm just a standard software developer/engineer. Haha. I have a friend who went the boot camp route and struggled a lot in the field, being the first target during layoffs and having to learn A TON of stuff that boot camps just don't cover. With some tutoring and some years of on-the-job training he is doing OK now, too. I'd definitely recommend the degree route as it lays the complete foundation and gives you the flexibility to learn about some of the more advanced specializations like machine learning, artificial intelligence, programming languages, computer graphics, game development, distributed systems, and more in a controlled learning environment with ample timing before jumping straight into the subset of the industry you're interested in.

One of the biggest cons when it comes to getting a computer science degree that you mentioned at the end but wasn't specifically part of the Cons list: It's hard as FUCK. If you struggle with math at all you better be prepared to work your ass off and be very ready for the real possibility that you're just not going to be able to complete it because it's too hard for you. Also a lot of people think that Computer Science is the same as software development, but it's not. So you really have to research and make sure you know what exactly it is before you decide to get a degree in it vs. teaching yourself programming and whatnot. Also ALSO it never ends. You constantly have to keep up with new technologies or languages that are getting developed all the time and it's basically a continuous learning process for the rest of your professional life or risk falling behind and getting canned, so if you're not interested enough to really love it in college there's a very real chance you'll get burned out. And I'm not being one of those guys that says "Don't do it unless you wanna dedicate your life to it or you'll never make it," but at the same time you really have to be okay with the fact that it's not a "learn in school then just go do it and never have to study again" type of career.

We need these types of videos in veterinary and nursing degrees, there are so many misconceptions about the two fields your help and expertise would be great

Thanks man. This reassured me that even if my entrepreneurial ventures go to shit, my CS degree is a good safety net.

I'm a Computer Science major and a few months away for graduation. Your videos have helped me out. Great job keep it up!!

Do finance next please! And maybe the benefits/ drawbacks of getting a masters in finance

I got a 2 year Computer science degree from a Community college. It cost me 14,000. Now I make 80k a year.

Just finished an ap computer science exam. Great timing!!😂😂

Hey man, absolutely loved this video. Your personality and presentation with a dose of honesty. I appreciate it and keep doing what you love, or start doing it. Keep up the great work and wish you well.

Thanks for this man, been on the fence about a CS degree. Definitely going for it now.

My dad has a long story about getting into computer engineering with only a degree in finance. He says that at the time it was out of luck because there were some companies around where he lived which had a high demand for software engineers. He got trained, and he tried as hard as possible to get the job and then did. He said it’s better to actually major in computer science or engineering rather than to take the big risk of no college education. He said getting the first job was like “It’s either I get this job and then can work as a software engineer with the credibility of the job, or I will never get to work as a software engineer again.”

Good work!We need more of these videos. Are you going to do a buisness tier list? Looking forwards for that video.

Definitely! If there is one thing I am continuing to force myself to learn it's computer science. With the movement of the market to where it is today, computer science is crucial for pretty much every job. And for the jobs that don't require it, being able to involve it into that job will only push you ahead of the competition!

The career counselor and instructors at the university that I attended used to say that there was a shortage of programmers and that jobs were falling out of the sky and that all students would find a job. When I would talk to graduates, most students never found a job and the job market was saturated. Graduate school was full of students all waiting for their big break.

I have a mechanical engineering degree but my job is pretty much just pure coding XD. I should have studied software engineering because I like it a lot better. To me it just feels like a puzzle game that I get paid for. I absolutely hate fluids dynamics and thermodynamics because of all the equations and math involved. I do some mechanical stuff sometimes but mostly it’s just developing algorithms, measurement software, and GUIs. I like how you can easily just create something using your keyboard. I even automated some stuff in my home so I can just control it from an app on my phone from anywhere in the world. Before I hated coding because I didn’t understand it at all but the more I learned about it the easier it became and more resourceful I got. I remember it once taking me an entire day to get one single line of code working when I originally started and it was so painfully frustrating. Now I can finish what my boss gives me a week to do in just a few hours most of the time.

man your the greatest you give the best advice and the information I ACTUALLY NEED in the perfect amount of time

Breath of fresh air. To the point information just does it for me.

I love the office references through your videos! 😂 I've been fighting between whether to go for CS or MIS.

Damn you're working hard, love your computer science videos, giving the video a like😊

Your channel is helping me. I’m 34 years old trying to figure out what to do with my life. I got my associate in arts degree but I’m thinking of getting a bachelors in finance or theater. I’m now pondering computer science as well. I definitely don’t want to waste money on a worthless degree. College is hard lol.

Since the day I started to work with you, I know I've changed a lot which really helped me to become a better person inside and out. You are one of the reasons why I'm always trying my best. Thank you so much You know I appreciate you so much.

Thanks for making this video Shane. Your channel is gonna be huge one day!

This entire channel is a lifesaver, thank you

I’m so excited I will be majoring in CS next spring 😲 I was a psych major and will be getting my associates (I thought helping people was what I wanted to do) however I’m an introvert, not a people person and I work for amazon and help with the website, I love it. I know that a degree will help me in terms of job opportunities.

This was very helpful, thank you✌🏻

Please make a video comparing physics, engineering, computer science It's gonna be extremely helpful

I really love all your videos. And you are THE ONLY KZfaqr who actually reply to everyone's comments. Thanks for the great content and I really learnt a lot from you. And I clicked the subscribe button the moment I finished your first video. Keep up your good work and I will always support you!

your video is very educating for me, i love it ! keep up the good work

Thank you so much for this! Some people say that it’s a useless degree and there are some that are saying it’s one of the best. I’m definitely going for the degree now after watching. =)

This encouraged me to start a CS degree. I love programming since high school and STEM fields in general, but my parents wanted me to do finance😕

Starting computer science in exeter in september. I was kinda nervous, this video helped me chillax

really appreciate your work i dont know where i would be without you

Thanks for making these videos they are super helpful I appreciate it

Hey Shane would you do a science major tier list? I feel like it's an area that's kind of overshadowed by the other STEM fields and would be a good idea to look into. Also awesome video by the way keep up the good work!

I’ve never been really good at math, Ive always gave up on math. I’m currently in the Navy as an active duty member and I don’t plan on retiring in the Navy. I want to challenge myself. I also want to prove to myself that I can achieve something that others like myself don’t usually achieve. Not for bragging rights, but to break down the barriers of being a black women in Tech, there is about only 3% of black women in the Computer Tech field. Could someone please give me some advice? I would really appreciate it. ❤️

I’m in the tech space, although I didn’t do a CS degree. I did an engineering degree and got a 2.7 undergrad gpa. My engineering field had very low job demand and it was impossible to enter without a PhD. So I was unemployed with a low GPA for nearly a year. I worked my ass off to learn CS skills. I taught myself everything with online free classes and projects. Now, I’m a data scientist for a company in Silicon Valley (data science can be entered by any math related grad) and making well over 100k. However, I work remotely from home in a much lower cost of living area (Midwest). Lower taxes than California, but the same salary as the rest of the data scientists there. So yeah I get to work from home in my pajamas making a lot of money. I think that if you really want to do this and want the life that comes with it- work your ass off to become good at CS and math. Anything is possible. The effort is well worth it in the end. A CS degree helps, but if you didn’t get one and want a CS job, you can definitely pivot. On the idea of outsourcing- it won’t really happen to you if you’re decent. The best CS minds are located in first world countries at the moment. Companies generally outsource only if they can’t really afford a good CS person or can’t afford one.

Great video,👍very informative

Absolutely, the people that are telling no, are hurting you. They already know how difficult it is. Especially if you are at a disadvantage.. just be ready to work

You should do a video on a BA vs a BS in computer science.

I've done two degrees, one majoring in compsci and pscyhology, the other in marketing and information systems. By far the compsci degree offers the most in terms of flexibility past graudation. You can build your own apps / products, work in essentially whatever industry you want (as pretty much every industry has tech), you're also able to work remotely and have your pick of cities worldwide. You also don't need a degree to get into the industry. I've done a similar video talking about the pros and cons of a CS degree, but this was a good explanation, cheers Shane!

The amount of smoke sizzling from my brains in Calculus is proof enough that CS is worth it.

Thank you dude. This video is really helpful..

Thank you for this video. I am on the fence about this particular degree path. I defintely see a future in it but I have always been TERRIBLE at math. I'm currently and audio engineer and sound designer looking into getting a batchelors in Computer Science and Game Audio. It seems like a logical step for remote work but I have reservations. Does anyone have any experience in that particular field that might be able to give some advice?

Comp E is where it's at. Very easy to break into the tech field with the coding you learn in the degree but also protected against outsourcing because the EE skills you learn aren't just something anyone can pick up.

You're a guru of careers! Thanks 😊

Thank you so much! Its helpful.

Really excited to enter this subject. Might go to university this year for it.

Maybe one about MS Financial Engineering. Kudos to this channel.

8:20 I am from Egypt and yup, plenty of companies are outsourcing here. I do think outsourcing will increase because more and more people in my country are learning English.

Very Good Video, Stright To The Point

Currently working on my BACS while doing a full stack MERN bootcamp in hopes to break in before I finish school. Best of luck to everyone 😁👍👍

1.is 3 am 2.i like your videos 3.thanks for giving us hope of CS

These comments are absolutely different from what other people are saying. I became so unsure about my path in getting a CS degree. This was very reassuring

Love this video

As a Computer Science major, I greatly appreciate this video. Thank you! ☺️

I’m a junior at high school I wanna focus on my future I’m not gonna listen to these bozo’s saying college isn’t worth it and I came across your channel. Ima be binge watching this for a while lol. I’m thinking of and my family recommended me to major in comp sci, I’m not the best at math but I am dedicated to get the check

You gotta keep updating, many old timer in the late 90 mainly cobol programmers got kick out of their field due to the lack of experience in C++, Java, oracle etc those guys mostly out date in their mid 50. So if with the 4 generation language getting its popularity maybe a few year from now 3gen language will be out date soon

I'm a CS major but dropping out, I love coding and am good at it but that's like becoming a camera engineer/designer because you're into photography. For computer science you have to be able to think abstractly and be fairly creative, while applying that abstract thinking to a structured framework. + You gotta be willing to put in tons of work. Best of luck to yall

Personal Time Stamps.(Don't mind it). [Jobs] 1:56 [Positives] 2:01 3:35 5:56 6:22 6:53-7:07 7:09 [Important] 2:30 3:25 11:56-12:17

im starting college and ive been focusing on getting to this course, hopefully it is actually worth the time. will return to this video after some time to give my experience.

I've worked with computers for nearly 30 years. I didn't get a degree, but was working as a technician, and took a basic class through the local community college, and wrote a scheduling program using basic on the first IBM XT that my company bought. From there I worked up through the ranks, ended up in SCADA (system control and data acquisition) which is a niche field, but good for job security. My US company ended up merging with a UK company that liked outsourcing. Pretty much the entire IT department got outsourced, quite a bit to India, and the only company employees in IT ended up being project managers. Folks with IT skills that supported automation (hands on) ended up keeping their positions. And often, they worked away from headquarters, had more job freedom, which is nice. For hiring, it was over a decade ago that we even considered someone without a degree. We went from hiring out our team level, (outsourced HR), so when we needed someone new, they ran an online job hunt, and we were only allowed to interview folks that made it through the outsourced HR. So, I'd recommend that a degree is a necessity if you want to work for a huge corp. I'd say my job satisfaction is very good, but I love getting down to the bit level, and troubleshooting issues. I don't do as much anymore, but I used to put in super long hours. (base salary, no overtime) As you noted about keeping your skills current, that is a must in the computer industry. You have to put in lots of your own time learning new skills if you want to stay relevant. Not bad if you like constantly learning new skills, but if not, probably not the area for you.

Calc 2 in the fall, shooting for UF’s Computer Science program following a couple years of self employment as a custom trim carpenter/handyman after deciding I didn’t like nursing 😅 I’m 32 but I loved my python course and I love the analytical challenge of coding, and I actually enjoy calculus. I’m stoked to have finally made a decision. (Im also really tired of being broke!)

Hey Shane, I really appreciate your videos even if my degree is useless 😂 This may sound a bit random but could be a video idea. Could you do maybe a video on Jobs that the military could train you in if you really want to retrain as something? I think they do give someone loads of options if someone wanted to get paid to retain as something with regards to a skill and future job. It’s something that I am currently considering given my silly degree 😂

The biggest con of cs degree- it is very hard for some people to understand

Planning to do CS so thx a lot!! 😊

Thanks man!

Great video! I have bets on the automation hype train as well, would you also look at other engineering degrees like Robotics/Mechatronics and Control Systems Engineering?

Never got the CS degree, I never even finished college. I switched majors twice and was racking up debt some dropped out. I ended up teaching myself CS and finance on my own. As someone who is a self starter and an entrepreneur this was the better option for me.

With CS you can jump in many disciplines like Data Analitics, Cybersecurity, AI, Machine Language, Geographic Information Systems (GIS), and more because of the programming background. In my case I getting a MS in Cybersecurity and I want be a more hacker than developer because that takes more skill and more demand than software. Very hard to outsource the job.

I’ve actually been thinking about this a lot...I got accepted to a few colleges and have done research for like 2 years lol so I hope it works out

I'm about to get my AA in IT and I'm debating on weather or not I should go for the cs bachelor's degree. The main worry I have is the math because higher level algebra was a struggle for me. If I do decide to get the bachelors it will only be 2 years because I will have the AA. Any advice is appreciated.

I was so happy to bump into this path I'm in highschool and I'm very good in AP maths and computers this made me so happy 😂. I am passionate about this job .

@Shane Hummus - The Success GPS can you do one on Informatics and the best programs for it.

As a 44 yr old I was looking into CS, but hearing about ageism it gives me pause if I really want to pursue it. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ it would suck to get the degree but then not being able to get a job because I’m considered too old! One of the main reasons I liked CS was because of getting a job working remotely. I have some thinking to do. Great video by the way very informative.

I think this man deserves more likes!

Ageism is definitely a factor in the IT field. I got my degree in CS and worked for 20 years as a developer, but now my skills are obsolete and I can't even get a job doing tech support. I am currently in school studying for a nursing degree.

Please research about the different fields and different kinds of jobs in Computer Science, and break them down one by one, explaining what each one of them entails. It would be a good video to learn about the different kinds of specific jobs such as mobile development, artificial intelligence, cyber security, etc. There are a lot of general videos on KZfaq, but very few specific ones that go into such details. For example which specific CS jobs pay the most, require the highest degrees, are in demand the most, etc.

I worked as an associate for about ten years. Currently doing my MSc CS. Its hard, but some how fun. Oh ...and my Uni has a real campus.

I'm 19, I'll be 20 in August, I'm Italian, I'm on my first year studying International Relations, and I even though it's a field I've been interested in for some years of my life (I'm not sure if I'm that passionate about the subject) I don't feel like it's going to bring me anywhere, I'm thinking to move into another city, with a more prestigious university (probably the best public university in the country, and public universities in Italy are excellent) trying to have the same degree but optimising my possibility of having a satisfying job, but I see from some statistics that only 20% of people that come out of aniversity with that degree have a job in which the degree would be relevant (it's a statistic relevant for the whole country though, coming out of the best university would get me a higher probability), and I also see that average pay is like 17400€, that's roughly 20000$ a year, even though again, it's a country-wide statistic where most of the figures come from people that don't actually get into the field and are just regular employees in public and private agencies, and a big chunk of them also has part-time jobs, so not an ideal indicator of what actually getting that degree in the best university and getting in the field would look like, but I'm so uncertain that I'm actually thinking I might trash this first year and try to get a degree that looks more promising, and after trashing everything (medical, law school, economics) except computer science I have this funny idea of trying to get a computer science degree. Fact is, I'm comically bad at math, but in recent years I've become more interested in both math and programming, and I want to learn how to code and be competent in the field, and I thought that perhaps challenging my status quo and actually getting into a more difficult challenge might be stimulating for me (even though international relations is not easy at all), and I don't think I lack the mental ability to learn at least what's needed to get me into a computer science faculty. So I kinda got this idea, am I fucking out of my mind? Am I dreaming about changing faculty because I have three big-boi-thousand-page exams that await me? Perhaps.

could you in future say where you get the information, because it would be seriously helpful! thanks!

For the people who are reading me. My dream is to study two careers now, I have in mind that they are: 1. Computer Science & Computer Engineering or 2. Computer Science & Economics. Honestly, I would like someone to explain to me what could be the best option and why. Is computer science better than computer engineering? I appreciate your time. Thank you.

Currently in highschool here in the Philippines, I've already planned all that I want to do. Wish me luck!

hey man great video, currently about to finish my first semester toward my cs degree. I see a ton of people on reddit and other places online talking about not being able to find a job after hundreds of applications, is it genuinely that tough to land a job or are these people doing something wrong?

My CS has taken far, but I wish I minored in MIS. I had a few friends in MIS that had higher salaries than me early on. I would say do internships while in school. Look at certifications as well. I took a look at my school's current curriculum, and they're including certifications within the major now.

Hi! I came across your video and am more confused about what I should be. I'm a senior in high school and can only think of 3 possible careers: software engineer, financial manager, and computer science. I'm thinking about majoring in computer science because of the pros, but I'm terrified that I'm going to fail or not understand the material. I like solving math problems and want a job that ensures that I'll get a job after college, pays well, and will let me understand the material even more. I also know nothing about programming, even though it looks interesting, and just for more information, I want to go into a California state college instead of a university to save money (will i be able to get a high paying job even if i'm not going to a university?). I'm confused about everything honestly, since I don't know what classes to take in college or even know if I'll be able to handle everything. I've watched a few videos on what computer science is (pros & cons) and it seems very difficult. I know the only person who can stop me is myself, but I just want to know people's opinions on what my career should be. Please let me know your thoughts on what I should do!

Hi Shane. Thank you for this. I've been heavily conflicted between Economics and Computer Science. If possible, can you make a video on Economics degree as well please?

Great vid can you do a information technology

yeah thats it im teaching myself to code so that when I get to college I will be at least a little prepared

I just viewed this video and definetely changed my mind of becoming an economist thanks for this guy🥰

I wanted my son to take this.. We did talk about Comp Sci before. Anyway, nice content

im thinking either: Computer Science, Law Degree, or MBA

6:36 - Personal Note: • Remote Jobs Will (Usually) Pay Lesser Than Working In Major-Cities For Mega-Corporations Directly.

Hello Shane. I did a bachelor in Life science, a master in Genetics, and now I want to pursue in computer science. I thought about doing a master, but after watching your video, i wonder if a bachelor in CS is the most appropriate. I have some programming experience from my master in genetics (python, R). I'd love to know what you think is the best path to become a software or ML engineer (switching from bio-informatics, statistics to computer science) Thank you so much for your videos. Be safe