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Is a Perfect "Grid" City with no Traffic Possible in Cities Skylines?

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@emmasimmonds4504
@emmasimmonds4504 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Biffa, and all the comments. I think I had an older version of tmpe installed. Some of it was set up but didn’t seem to transfer over. The irony is I come from a small town with no grids, but there is something satisfying about straight lines. Will work through and make adjustments. May need to overhaul my metro, (my underground spaghetti, as your subscribers called it). Thanks again for the help and advice :)
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I do enjoy a good grid city too. I reckon a nice metro overhaul will really help as your city grows even larger 👍 thanks for sending it in 😁
@djscatterbrainofficial4206
@djscatterbrainofficial4206 4 жыл бұрын
Emma Simmonds, there is a recently updated tmpe out right now
@peronohaynada
@peronohaynada 4 жыл бұрын
One tmpe version decided that it wasn't necessary to keep saving my changes. So every time I loaded my city the setups were gone and had to re do all again. Session after session the city got bigger and the traffic even worse! Since then, every time biffa complains or suggests to use tmpe, I wonder if it is the tmpe version missmatch or just like my case...
@BrokenMonocle
@BrokenMonocle 4 жыл бұрын
@@peronohaynada There's a TMPE:President and a TMPE:Labs. President is the stable release, and labs is the new and sometimes buggy features. Biffa uses Labs.
@peronohaynada
@peronohaynada 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrokenMonocle I think it was stable version. I built a city with, np. Lost all saves, started a new one. And suddenly, after 3 session or so, it started buggy. Stable does not mean no bugs :D When the city was too large to set all again, I started using biffas version and all went fine :D
@gameglitcher
@gameglitcher 4 жыл бұрын
I'd argue the population was up by 50k because the stand still traffic turned the people into long-term residents.
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
Lol :-)
@li_tsz_fung
@li_tsz_fung 4 жыл бұрын
(Police motorcycle going through the traffic, stop besides you) According to our record, you've lived here for 5 years and is considered to be a citizen here. Just to remind you that you've missed the deadline of tax. Please pay it in 3 days with late charge or you'll be arrested
@arthurdent4791
@arthurdent4791 4 жыл бұрын
@@li_tsz_fung That made me laugh.
@alberto7374
@alberto7374 4 жыл бұрын
Day 734 : Still waiting my turn to enter the roundabout.Will my familly still remember me?
@jeffrywilson7202
@jeffrywilson7202 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@niccolom
@niccolom 4 жыл бұрын
This city looks so organized above ground during the introduction. Then Biffa showed the underground, and it was spaghetti.
@Metalwraith031
@Metalwraith031 4 жыл бұрын
I started screaming when i saw those monsters
@wesleymays1931
@wesleymays1931 4 жыл бұрын
Business in the front, party in the back :D
@murph1329
@murph1329 4 жыл бұрын
front in looks amazing back-end code looks like crap....yeah i'm used to seeing that :(
@I_hu85ghjo
@I_hu85ghjo 4 жыл бұрын
@@murph1329 Lmao, i feel ya.
@nicpardon1057
@nicpardon1057 3 жыл бұрын
the perfect metro is a spagetti
@hugoolofsgard415
@hugoolofsgard415 4 жыл бұрын
”My husband’s not coming home from work...” ”Hi honey, I was stuck in traffic.” ” For 11 YEARS!” ”Yep.”
@halo007Mex
@halo007Mex 3 жыл бұрын
"Thats is imposible . . . We only live around 6"
@Itsjimmay
@Itsjimmay 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Cities Skylines had the dialogue of Roller Coaster Tycoon? "I have been waiting on Highway 1 for ages!" 😂
@elizabethsullivan1894
@elizabethsullivan1894 4 жыл бұрын
"I want to get off Highway 1!" And of course, after a natural disaster it would be, "I'm not going on Highway 1. It's not safe."
@Red-wb2ey
@Red-wb2ey 3 жыл бұрын
Highway 1 is my favorite ride!
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 3 жыл бұрын
"Metro line 4 is a really good value!"
@RedGallardo
@RedGallardo 2 жыл бұрын
"I already got an education." =/
@Atillatzke
@Atillatzke 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see other RCT fans :D
@FinnMacCuhl
@FinnMacCuhl 4 жыл бұрын
Don't even have this game - so why do I watch these? Every. Time.
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
:-)
@kevingollner552
@kevingollner552 4 жыл бұрын
I bought this game a moth ago because of these videos. I just wanted to play with traffic but turns out there is more to the game. Thanks Biffa!
@chrishughes3405
@chrishughes3405 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevingollner552 yeah but traffic is where you always end up coming back to in Cities. Not complaining mind you.
@LaughingOrange
@LaughingOrange 4 жыл бұрын
I played 75 minutes of it (mostly idle), but i've spent probably a weeks watching these videos.
@matzAB_
@matzAB_ 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a new PC just to play this fantastic game again after 5 or so years. You made me do this Biffa 😂 Thanks a lot for your awesome content 👏🏻
@leeponzu
@leeponzu 4 жыл бұрын
There should be a control-shift-meta-coke-bottle B command that does all the Biffa stuff for the whole city.
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 👍
@RavenholmZombie
@RavenholmZombie 4 жыл бұрын
Biffa: _*uses tools and logic to improve traffic_ Me: _"nEeDs mOrE lAnEs"_
@adalbertomania
@adalbertomania 4 жыл бұрын
The Spiffing Brit: "More TOLLS"
@EvlEgle
@EvlEgle 4 жыл бұрын
More Lanes is just more gridlock unless you fix the problems
@arandombard1197
@arandombard1197 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvlEgle In high density traffic with cyclical build-ups, extra lane capacity can be the solution to traffic problems. In the time it takes for traffic to stop, build up and go again, there needs to be enough capacity to store that traffic without it interrupting nodes or junctions further back.
@FrillWasTaken
@FrillWasTaken 3 жыл бұрын
I think something a lot of people don't get about this game is that more lanes don't fix traffic issues, as each individual vehicle spawns with it's route and destination without taking current traffic into account. So sometimes you can have a 6 lane road with every car sitting in one lane, stuck. It's my one gripe with the game 😦
@zevo9314
@zevo9314 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrillWasTaken just one? there are definitely a few, even though i love the game lol
@divyanshaggarwal6243
@divyanshaggarwal6243 4 жыл бұрын
at first i thought that these episodes were getting redundant but after watching i can't be happier
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
:-)
@divyanshaggarwal6243
@divyanshaggarwal6243 4 жыл бұрын
@TooManyBrownies yeah correct
@scottjohnson926
@scottjohnson926 4 жыл бұрын
11:53 from my console experience I learned you can add a road coming off the segment, delete it and the intersect node will stay... very helpful for short lane changes and close roundabout exits where nodes will not come naturally
@Bender24k
@Bender24k 4 жыл бұрын
Hugo 'Horky-Borky" There - a significant traffic engineer who shall be remembered.
@aegisfate117
@aegisfate117 4 жыл бұрын
o7
@hamthenoob3022
@hamthenoob3022 4 жыл бұрын
Specializing in lane mathematics
@EvlEgle
@EvlEgle 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Chester Chocabloc
@jas9friend
@jas9friend 2 жыл бұрын
@@hamthenoob3022 mathematicisation
@xxsknnylgndxx8548
@xxsknnylgndxx8548 4 жыл бұрын
I like to do something I call “grid adjacent” that is pretty much grid style but I’ll use bends and curves along river, ocean, and mountain sides. Imo it’s really pretty
@xxsknnylgndxx8548
@xxsknnylgndxx8548 4 жыл бұрын
I also use culdesacs a lot in low density residential areas & will sometimes bend main roads but keep connecting roads straight
@Kanal7Indonesia
@Kanal7Indonesia 3 жыл бұрын
That's natural
@haroldinho9930
@haroldinho9930 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah same.
@Cynyr
@Cynyr 4 жыл бұрын
I found the issue! all the traffic is on the wrong side of the road!
@Septimus_ii
@Septimus_ii 4 жыл бұрын
How dare you!
@cameronsmall2166
@cameronsmall2166 4 жыл бұрын
I want to like, but it is on 69 likes so I wouldn’t dare
@saalness9173
@saalness9173 4 жыл бұрын
i literally only noticed that something seemed weird like 15 minutes into the video
@NeverlandSystemZor
@NeverlandSystemZor 4 жыл бұрын
That will get you every time.
@Chris_Cross
@Chris_Cross 4 жыл бұрын
Nope. It's on the right side.
@tonykristhiofan1113
@tonykristhiofan1113 4 жыл бұрын
City tour guide : 4:35 we are currently on the oodleabout. Our next destination is third-quarterabout
@thisisgamelord2421
@thisisgamelord2421 4 жыл бұрын
Each about is a good about 😂😂
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 4 жыл бұрын
There's actually an egg-about somewhere near where I live, it's challenging to drive if you haven't driven it before. Basically just a regular roundabout with one point ending in a sharp hairpin curve.
@EvlEgle
@EvlEgle 4 жыл бұрын
3/4 about
@MechakittenX
@MechakittenX 4 жыл бұрын
this comment has me in tears. love it! haahahah
@tonykristhiofan1113
@tonykristhiofan1113 4 жыл бұрын
@@MechakittenX good to know my comment made someone laugh
@douglasbaker9663
@douglasbaker9663 4 жыл бұрын
Come to the end, I was surprised to find myself hanging on in suspense - how much ridership did the industrial area subway/metro have??
@sherihartley794
@sherihartley794 4 жыл бұрын
I watch all your city fixes, I feel like you have taught me everything about traffic fixing but it's still fun to watch and see other people's cities. Compliments to the creator of this one, it looks perfect. Those pesky postal vans though. I sometimes don't bother at all with postal service because they cause so much traffic that when I do, I usually end up deleting them.
@redddirtgaming6955
@redddirtgaming6955 4 жыл бұрын
I like modified grids, where each "cell" is say, four blocks by four blocks. Then, within that cell you can do whatever you want, make a suburb type neighborhood, add some curves and bends to the roads, as long as road heirarchy is followed properly it works well.
@ulysseslee9541
@ulysseslee9541 4 жыл бұрын
I leave this planning idea after my 5th city but I still use one large road/highway access every 4-5 big blue grids. Commonly, I use 4 *6 big blue grid as a cell, each cell have their 1-2 Metro station and 4 bus stops covered, one school, one medical centre and "Plop" park.
@corvettec-dt1eq
@corvettec-dt1eq 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do the same thing
@corvettec-dt1eq
@corvettec-dt1eq 4 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw that sentence I thought it said "I like modified girls" lol
@pfeilspitze
@pfeilspitze 4 жыл бұрын
Look up "fused grid" -- it's a thing invented by a Canadian housing research place that uses "quadrants" that are 5x5 blocks. I'm still trying to find the perfect design inside there -- the game refusing to zone on the outside of bends makes the ones from the paper not work well -- but I think it's really promising. Here's a good intro paper: fusedgrid.ca/docs/HippodamusRidestoRadburn.pdf
@thisisgamelord2421
@thisisgamelord2421 4 жыл бұрын
I gonna try that, it sounds fun to do
@Thukad
@Thukad 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the benefit of a grid system is all about public transportation. City Skylines right now is mainly a game about car traffic. I hope when the second game comes around that there are better tools for foot traffic and public transportation.
@zenrockoutkast
@zenrockoutkast 4 жыл бұрын
If you build it they will come. If you put in public transportation then cims will use it, if you put in bike lanes they will ride bikes, and if you make things within walking distance of each other they will walk. Grids actually get a ton of foot traffic in my cities.
@alohatigers1199
@alohatigers1199 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Mueller Fax
@alohatigers1199
@alohatigers1199 4 жыл бұрын
Jason Poole The devs already explain why they didn’t do it. The problems is: with 50+ of the BEST mods/tools added to the game as a DEFAULT feature, how would it affect gamers who plays this game on a Low end PC? I’m playing this game on a LOW end pc and I’m holding onto 50K population. Assuming they put 50 mods/tools into the game as a default FEATURE, it’s going to slow my PC to the point it’s unplayable, which means I have to buy a better PC. That’s why they didn’t do it. For a console, they can handle it. The downside is they can’t download mods. Pc gamers CAN but the downside is that they need a strong pc. This game is a CPU heavy. You’re gonna have to spend $1,000+
@rachelnstephens
@rachelnstephens 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of people have never seen a real subway map, so they plot stations really far apart, with no stops in between and metro lines that don't intersect at a single station for people to transfer lines. If your stations aren't where people would work or shop, and they can only transfer lines at the main depot (ex: trains) people will drive.
@joeblow5214
@joeblow5214 4 жыл бұрын
@@alohatigers1199 I plan on reusing parts on from my old HP prebuilt built a really good pc for sub $750. The parts I have to replace is the case, psu, cpu,gpu, and mobo.
@RogerNorling
@RogerNorling 4 жыл бұрын
Ctrl+click has made Biffa lazy with the lane mathematics.. You got to remember to math-ify or we'll withhold your tea ;)
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
:P
@MonoMan1
@MonoMan1 4 жыл бұрын
Lane mathematics sometimes isn't too visually appealing, so control clicking instead gets you like 90% of the benefit without your highways looking super funky.
@pfeilspitze
@pfeilspitze 4 жыл бұрын
@@MonoMan1 Ctrl-clicking does great for the offramps, but when it's an interchange (instead of just a random slip lane), it means there ends up with a Hugo problem at the merge on the other side because there's too many incoming lanes.
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if TMPE had a "Ctrl+SHIFT+click" to do the lane arrows *for the entire length of a road*...
@kyle8971
@kyle8971 4 жыл бұрын
This was so incredibly satisfying to watch. This was like a giant puzzle you got to work on and figure out how to solve.
@michaelheliotis5279
@michaelheliotis5279 3 жыл бұрын
Bif: "I can see that a lot of you watching aren't actually subscribed." Me, an erratic viewer for over a year: *looks at subscriber count of 480K then looks at view count of 1.2M* Also me: *subscribes in guilt*
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын
👍😂
@jaredenem
@jaredenem 3 жыл бұрын
As someone living in the Philippines, seeing someone fix traffic at this scale is just so cathartic. It's also probably the reason why I still play the game every now and then.
@phantomplayz7952
@phantomplayz7952 3 жыл бұрын
the “Fix Your City” series is the city skylines version of chiropractor videos
@redhed1713
@redhed1713 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual Biffa. :-) Couldn't believe how low the Buses and Metro was in a city with that large a population! I have one with 50-60k with 7-9k using public transport. It would have nice to see how many were using the Metro to the industrial areas that you set up at the end. Keep up the good work, :-)
@craigstephenson7676
@craigstephenson7676 4 жыл бұрын
“69% not bad not bad” Disappointed in you
@mojolotz
@mojolotz 3 жыл бұрын
We were so close to greatness.
@Azerkeux
@Azerkeux 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using grids too, but laying my city out somewhat like LA with mostly low residential with just a city center of high density, so far it's going ok, up to 120k with minimal traffic problems
@Grauhuf88
@Grauhuf88 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is 2nd most beautiful city I have ever seen in your "Fix your City"-List. Everything looks so well organized (besides the underground)
@andrysonss9493
@andrysonss9493 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly this is so beauty but nothing efficient I guess u cant make a very beauty city with good trafic
@rubenlarochelle1881
@rubenlarochelle1881 4 жыл бұрын
13:30 How to mantain low traffic: click on vehicles and destroy them, lol.
@Sindrewino
@Sindrewino 4 жыл бұрын
Sitting at a café in Norway, whatching Biffa fixing the traffic in Emmas city, while drinking tea and sipping whenever Biffa is sipping🤗
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
😁
@basvandalen2093
@basvandalen2093 4 жыл бұрын
Have a very nice day biffa!!!
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
You too! :-)
@PawsleyDirt
@PawsleyDirt 4 жыл бұрын
Basjuuuh!
@basvandalen2093
@basvandalen2093 4 жыл бұрын
@@PawsleyDirt ?
@ZeroKey92
@ZeroKey92 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Biffa for featuring a larger city with traffic problems. While I do enjoy your Fixit series most cities featured are around 100k population and not this massive. I'm always looking for fixes for bigger cities so this was a nice change.
@Axius82
@Axius82 4 жыл бұрын
Love the traffic fix videos. Would love it if you did some guides, e.g. how to create an "ideal" industry area, with minimal traffic problems and good connections etc.
@Lighteningskye
@Lighteningskye 4 жыл бұрын
May I suggest this gem: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMuke9ii3pu0k30.html Also, from watching many of Biffa's vids, he mentions several things quite a bit when it comes to Industry and traffic. A) Spread them out. Don't place all your industries in one area. B) Give your industry traffic multiple ways in and out of said area C) Working with B) make sure your traffic has multiple ways in and out of your commercial and other industry areas. Inter commercial traffic can be a nuisance D) Working more with B) & C) Allow trains and other large transport options to move your industry goods. Whether internally or exporting. If you can remove a truck from transporting goods then you can have better traffic flow and make a ton of money; because no one is waiting for goods.
@Aaron-pz6et
@Aaron-pz6et 4 жыл бұрын
I bought C:S just because of these videos and when you buld cities. Then I realized my PC can run C:S in 6FPS. Now I'm just watching this videos and waiting for new GPU.
@uilleannaddict
@uilleannaddict 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings, Biffa! I got into this game when I got it for free about 3 months ago, and I am obsessed with it. Your traffic guides have helped me immensely! One of my favorite activities is watching your videos while sipping some Earl Grey! Cheers!
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 3 жыл бұрын
👍😁👍
@patryk1303
@patryk1303 4 жыл бұрын
Nice fix. But there is one thing I've seen on these video - there are big jams in the metro and train network which also is used to calculate traffic flow.
@VaalerianG
@VaalerianG 4 жыл бұрын
I never could force myself to make grids, I think too much Sim City made me allergic to grids. I understood quite early in Cities: Skylines that 4 way road intersections were the worst for traffic, so I always restrict regular intersections to 3 ways or nothing. For larger intersections, I make a big roundabout instead and make it usually a 6 way intersection roundabout. So my cities end up looking like a large hexagonal grid linking big roundabout nodes with straight avenues, filled with a lot of random organic roads in-between all of that. So either 3 ways small intersections, or big many ways roundabouts, and never ever a single 4 way intersection. I never had traffic issues with this kind of setup. However the problem again is that I can't anymore force myself to build cities any other way, which makes my cities often too similar and too easy. So yeah, I want some day to try actually forcing myself to make a grid for the challenge of it.
@MonoMan1
@MonoMan1 4 жыл бұрын
"That is a interesting looking roundabout...." *Moving right along*
@zevo9314
@zevo9314 3 жыл бұрын
this is the first one of these traffic fixing videos i've ever found, and i applied some of these concepts to my own city, which didn't have nearly that bad traffic, but sitting around 65%, and after doing so, it was like literally watching the traffic get flushed down the toilet (i have 2 major spiral roundabout interchanges in my downtown)
@kalessin4942
@kalessin4942 4 жыл бұрын
"The traffic. Now that is the reason why we're all here." - Biffa - or everyone stuck in a traffic jam
@joshk4597
@joshk4597 2 жыл бұрын
i don’t even play the game but i used to watch my dad play sims city growing up and i’ve always had an attachment to these games since and now i lay awake till 4am watching these everyday and they make me so happy even tho idk what’s going on completely
@MrSaemichlaus
@MrSaemichlaus 4 жыл бұрын
Next episode: Biffa visits New York and ends a few careers in his off minutes!
@ibrozdemir
@ibrozdemir 4 жыл бұрын
especially design heavy cs youtubers allways says "perfectly grided cities doesnt look estetic" but i think this person realy done a great job with power of order and math, it is eye pleasing. and as allways Biffa you've done a great job with traffic fix :)
@ThePaoligno90
@ThePaoligno90 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Biffa! I watched a lot of your videos, but unfortunately I can't play Cities because my pc is not powerful enough to handle it. Since I work with graphite systems, I was wondering if you could ever make a city with the honeycomb lattice as roads. I checked other videos for something similar, but I only found hexagon blocks, not a proper honeycomb lattice as a graphene sheet would be. Thank you and keep up with the great stuff!
@marktaylor6553
@marktaylor6553 3 жыл бұрын
As a person who builds for a living AND a lover of sim-games, what most people don't get is that 'nice & neat' doesn't = efficient. Keeping all the city services in separate districts looks good on paper, and makes it easier for the bureaucracy to keep track of everything (in RL), but suffers heavily from the 'law of diminishing returns'. A military commander could design a better running city than most artistic types, because they understand supply-line economics, and don't give a rat's arse about how pretty things look. Bottlenecks have lead to the death of entire armies.
@An_Economist_Plays
@An_Economist_Plays 4 жыл бұрын
2:10 I see the MAIL TRUCKS!!! This is why I don't do mail anymore in my cities.
@BobTheTesaurus
@BobTheTesaurus 4 жыл бұрын
man, im so happy you use the lane connectors more often now with LABS. I tend to use them alot in my cities because i get frustrated with cars changing 2 or more lanes at one node (which would cause fatal crashes in real life) and use them to force no more than 1 lane change at each node. Doing that along with changing the individual speed of certain lanes ive found is very good at making cars choose to be in different lanes at different times and overall clear up traffic. Its particularlly effective in industry sectors to encourage free movement to have 6 lane roads with a high speed middle, and low speed outer and forced 1 lane changes to make trucks choose to leave the fast lane earlier when they need to get to thier stopping point
@anton161817
@anton161817 4 жыл бұрын
"People don't know how to use roundabouts" Applies to IRL roads too
@thewoerldisyours
@thewoerldisyours 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I'm watching your videos when I'm sleepless and it works so well. This is no critique, I don't know what it is about your voice, but it relaxes me quite a lot. Thanks for the sweet dreams and making me think of you all the times I see a roundabout.
@alexogle8950
@alexogle8950 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for a traffic fix that creates a junction you can zone and call "Carjeeling"
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 2 жыл бұрын
I recently have been watching too much City Planner Plays and during the first 50 seconds, all I thought was, "Lack of connectivity and roadway hierarchy was not respected..." But of course, in the opening scene, we also can see no lane mathematics, your favorite Biffa :)
@doivnjoijf814
@doivnjoijf814 4 жыл бұрын
**Roads are removed under the cars** The cars: *Aight, Imma head out*
@BiggestAGFanEVER
@BiggestAGFanEVER 4 жыл бұрын
I have literally never heard of this game, and I have never seen any of your videos before, but for some reason this was recommended to me. I thoroughly enjoyed it though, and even watched the video all the way through! Thank you!
@Grumpy_old_Boot
@Grumpy_old_Boot 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say, that was one of the better traffic fixes, I have seen. 🙂
@msb2926
@msb2926 2 жыл бұрын
At 15:54 the question finally arises that should have been asked *before* doing all the lane rework. Everyone is going in a giant loop to get to the industrial areas. Right when Biffa says "That tells you you need public transport," look where the cursor is hovering as he says "need" (16:05). A single cloverleaf ramp at that spot would allow all of the traffic to go directly from the large highway to the road entering the industrial zone.
@RobinWood1292
@RobinWood1292 4 жыл бұрын
all the trains are stuck too see 21:41
@ChiliCatCreates
@ChiliCatCreates 4 жыл бұрын
This city is so well designed... The attention to placement is supernice! Thanks for fixing this one, Biffa! 🙏🌻✨
@clickclkboom
@clickclkboom 4 жыл бұрын
AHHHHH Subway Spaghetti!! It hurts my head!
@Vespuchian
@Vespuchian 4 жыл бұрын
The number of times I've seen a city with a nicely laid out road network but absolute chaos underground is absurd. I don't know why people keep using goblins on amphetamines to plan their subways and "hidden off-ramps".
@quaternarytetrad4039
@quaternarytetrad4039 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly, the subway was touched by his noodly appendage, that of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
@RailRide
@RailRide 4 жыл бұрын
Another goat-getter: subway tunnels that make impossible angled bends, as if these trains had the cornering ability of Tron lightcycles (protip: they don't)
@emilypost7893
@emilypost7893 4 жыл бұрын
So glad I found these traffic fixing vids! Surprisingly relaxing to see all of the problems go away. :)
@helloim3j
@helloim3j 4 жыл бұрын
This city is a monstrosity. Makes me wanna curl up into the fetal position and wait for the next Teaville video to make it all better.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 2 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely possible, in my towns with cars banned in external roads and public transit all over the main town, traffic is a non issue everywhere.
@ctsnicky
@ctsnicky 4 жыл бұрын
*looks at cup of coffee* close enough.
@candicen6656
@candicen6656 4 жыл бұрын
Glances over at Coke.... That'll do
@nekogod
@nekogod 4 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy!
@ctsnicky
@ctsnicky 4 жыл бұрын
@@nekogod I mean... I HAVE tea nearby but my wife bought me a coffee and it would be rude NOT to drink it, right?
@nekogod
@nekogod 4 жыл бұрын
@@ctsnicky ah yes indeed the wifey wrath is rarely worth invoking
@mjarbar3204
@mjarbar3204 4 жыл бұрын
@@ctsnicky Fixing 5% traffic is a walk in the park against fixing an angry wife!!! XD
@sdalt14
@sdalt14 4 жыл бұрын
Great to be rewarded with a critical city fix overview outro when watching to the end, as satisfying as watching the traffic clear with the split road roundabout fix.
@thomasgipson7120
@thomasgipson7120 4 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that a load of people's highway systems don't make sense. Road hierarchy is so important to having good traffic
@NickCadmium
@NickCadmium 2 жыл бұрын
Biffa going all Thanos on the Forestry trucks. "You changed the lane priorities but what did it cost you?"... "Everything!"
@_NoName_314
@_NoName_314 4 жыл бұрын
24:13 finally i see an almost propper roundabout... i really hate 90° junctions in them.
@sigma6656
@sigma6656 4 жыл бұрын
That jumped out immediately as the biggest culprit IMO.
@zenrockoutkast
@zenrockoutkast 4 жыл бұрын
That density is off the charts. I was responding to someone in a forum asking for help with a grid city, and when I asked them to show me their zoning it was all high density. When I looked at my real-life city's layout on Google Earth (a fairly large grid city) there were about 6 blocks by 10 blocks of skyscrapers, in the entire city. If you're going to have giant, huge grid sections of nothing but high density you're going to have traffic. It's not a problem with the grid itself. The other thing is that grids are supposed to have moderate traffic in certain sections. The idea is that the main roads should be clear and flow freely, while interior roads have more traffic. If you zone carefully and keep residential off the really big streets then your grid will operate like this. If you just zone an entire grid section as residential and commercial without paying attention to road hierarchy then you're going to get heavy traffic because everyone is going to the exact same place at the exact same time on the exact same roads.
@tonykristhiofan1113
@tonykristhiofan1113 4 жыл бұрын
Am i like the only one that thinks grid city looks beautiful
@ViolettaVie
@ViolettaVie 4 жыл бұрын
Nope. I love grids. But I like to break up my grids now and then with a curved road, or when the topography would just not suit grids.
@yooogibare
@yooogibare 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the organization that’s so satisfying
@NostalgiaMan
@NostalgiaMan 4 жыл бұрын
Nice game and nice video.
@Choppy
@Choppy 2 жыл бұрын
Well hello there ✌🙄
@sz_908
@sz_908 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find this game
@jsapcakrrow
@jsapcakrrow 4 жыл бұрын
Watching these videos are so enjoyable. Seeing the changes you make in the roads make such a huge difference in the way the city runs. :)
@_araminta_
@_araminta_ 4 жыл бұрын
The "outside swank, inside rank" moment, when Biffa switched to the city's metro system underneath. 😂
@flepgg
@flepgg 4 жыл бұрын
One suggestion for you to try (it would take less time): as you already do the "you go there" at the junctions, there's really no need for the lane mathematics. As the traffic goes back to normal, there is never that much cars on the highway junctions, you can just get the the outer lane (which is always less used) and merge together with the middle one, the important part of these junctions is the joining lane to have a dedicated lane. This will not cause any problems once the traffic has settled, I have a 70k ppl city with no lane mathematics (just using the junctions lines) and 85/87% traffic always =)
@happyfarang
@happyfarang 4 жыл бұрын
please come to bangkok and fix the traffic here ^^
@yugen90
@yugen90 4 жыл бұрын
the funny things is that i've seen a looot of this traffic fix videos, and basically everytime the things to do are the same but i'm still kind of hypnotized looking at them, like if in my brain-city there are no roundabouts and i'm stuck in these youtube videos!
@naerbo19
@naerbo19 4 жыл бұрын
Might be beneficial to set max population or something so that the simulation speed dosen't plummet. By the way. The reason for so few using subway was that the subway was backing up.. Great video as always! :-) Found it before I got a notification :-D
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 4 жыл бұрын
The game has a built-in limit of just over 1 million population and several other built-in limits that are usually hit before that. For instance, there is a limit of only a few tens of thousands of vehicles that can be simulated at once. Try to go beyond that and it anyone needing to spawn a vehicle, for example a hearse to pick up a dead person, they just have to wait until some other vehicle despawns.
@Luke_Freeman
@Luke_Freeman Жыл бұрын
The before and after slow pan was AWESOME! Thanks Biffa!
@colechapman6976
@colechapman6976 4 жыл бұрын
New York City: "NO."
@GustavSvard
@GustavSvard 4 жыл бұрын
well... mostly the problems in NYC are down to too many cars, not enough bike infra and not enough investment in rail infra over the years. Can't do a megacity based on cars and have it work.
@nuxxism
@nuxxism 4 жыл бұрын
NYC has 8 million people.
@farrelwaso5044
@farrelwaso5044 4 жыл бұрын
@@nuxxism Jakarta is FAR worse with 9.5 million people
@GustavSvard
@GustavSvard 4 жыл бұрын
@@nuxxism within the administrative borders of NYC, yes. Which is mostly irrelevant. What matters is the population of the greater metropolitan region. Which is at over 20M.
@alohatigers1199
@alohatigers1199 4 жыл бұрын
Gustav Löwgren If you’re planning a solution, you’re gonna convince a lot of people why they should lose their jobs and houses to improve the road system in NY.
@meadandmilk
@meadandmilk 4 жыл бұрын
Funny, I took a sip of Earl Grey at the exact moment you addressed the viewing public with their cups of tea!
@prometheus8010
@prometheus8010 4 жыл бұрын
1:38 so many tunnels
@mojolotz
@mojolotz 3 жыл бұрын
Me stuck in traffic... Suddenly road disappears under me and i'm left hanging in the air: "Well at least something changes FINALLY."
@joshfarrington2775
@joshfarrington2775 4 жыл бұрын
*kills 1/6 of the population* “Oh the traffic seems to be getting better
@EvlEgle
@EvlEgle 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah thanks covid.
@thelastmanonearth2631
@thelastmanonearth2631 4 жыл бұрын
@@EvlEgle Someone sucks reeeeeeeally bad at math.
@EvlEgle
@EvlEgle 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelastmanonearth2631 yeah but I can divide by zero
@lanzonex4WD
@lanzonex4WD 4 жыл бұрын
1/3
@PJDev
@PJDev 4 жыл бұрын
Very new to cities. Your video gave me a way better perspective on how handle traffic. I haven't even touched that part yet, even thought is so fundamental to the game
@Bustersides
@Bustersides 4 жыл бұрын
Love your Content biffa! You're my favourite youtuber:)
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Buster Sides :-)
@agentstaple1
@agentstaple1 2 жыл бұрын
You can get the roundabouts even smoother, if you make the inner two lanes stay straight and the outer two lanes turn for any nodes on the connections then merging traffic will have a much easier time getting on. The same way you would make them stay straight when joining an intersection. You can also stretch the nodes for connections to make the turn less sharp, also increases the amount of time the cars are made to "stay straight".
@razghost2
@razghost2 4 жыл бұрын
Look at that income tho, losing half a million every week lol
@cpt.flamer7184
@cpt.flamer7184 4 жыл бұрын
And lost a 100k people during the process ;p
@adamgray1753
@adamgray1753 4 жыл бұрын
*whispers* "If you build it, @@cpt.flamer7184, they will come!" lol
@ziiofswe
@ziiofswe 4 жыл бұрын
Taxes are way down though... usually works ok at 12% or something... some of these were at 5 or so.
@douglasbaker9663
@douglasbaker9663 4 жыл бұрын
@@cpt.flamer7184 The quickest way to reduce traffic: reduce population.
@corvettec-dt1eq
@corvettec-dt1eq 4 жыл бұрын
Well don't real cities lose a ton of money?
@rneumann7229
@rneumann7229 4 жыл бұрын
I'm always surprised noone else seems to use my method of total industry isolation. I like to have my industry areas late-game set up so there simply are no roads in/out, force everyone to walk/subways to work and the goods are forced onto ships for external or trains for internal distribution. I haven't played in ages but this city really makes me want to try again
@josi3165
@josi3165 4 жыл бұрын
why is fixing traffic so satisfying?
@PerfectAlibi1
@PerfectAlibi1 4 жыл бұрын
It's like de-cluttering, lots of room to stretch again ^^
@redhed1713
@redhed1713 4 жыл бұрын
Order from Chaos! ;-)
@rcslyman8929
@rcslyman8929 Жыл бұрын
Having grown up and lived in grid layout for a long time, I can say quite confidently that grid is great for getting around if you encounter problems with traffic. It sucks for preventing those problems happening in the first place.
@arianagriande8453
@arianagriande8453 4 жыл бұрын
Love your vids! Just here to say that you should join in hermitcraft 7!
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Won't be playing on HermitCraft sorry :-)
@arianagriande8453
@arianagriande8453 4 жыл бұрын
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines oh no problem Don't forget to take a sip of tea whenever you remember hermitcraft Me sips tea every second
@rhystyrrell280
@rhystyrrell280 4 жыл бұрын
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Nooooooo
@Lagmaster33
@Lagmaster33 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how casually some trucks just drive through the traffic jam.
@adryansashidharan1624
@adryansashidharan1624 4 жыл бұрын
Switching between LABS and regular TMPE completely ruined my city. It deleted every TMPE thing I had ever adjusted and I had to go back and redo the WHOLE CITY all over again. WARNING: Stick to one or the other and do not switch!!
@chrishughes3405
@chrishughes3405 4 жыл бұрын
that is very lucky you said so. I was literally about to update to labs version after watching those sweet ctrl and shift click lane marking automation. Saved me a lot of work and as it is my first big city, nearly 100k population and only about 100 hours in game so far, I likely would have dumped it to begin another. Thank you, some good came from it.
@Lighteningskye
@Lighteningskye 4 жыл бұрын
That may be the case for your city and that sucks but, I moved from the original version to LABS and now to STABLE and have had zero issues. I vaguely remember one of the modders for TPME stating they are all interchangeable and the only "loss" is any of the features you may get with either LABS (which is BETA btw) original or STABLE. This comment may be better suited for the workshop and the TPME Mods.
@KJWiggums
@KJWiggums 4 жыл бұрын
Biffa I don't even play this game but enjoy all your videos.
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you K.J. Wiggums :-)
@RSFeed
@RSFeed 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even play this game, watching you fixing this cities it's just amazing!
@lillykarr8787
@lillykarr8787 4 жыл бұрын
videos like yours really make me wish I didn't suck at this game. It's so fun to watch but when I try to play I'm so bad, I don't know what to do, and it gets boring. Love your videos.
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines 4 жыл бұрын
Keep practicing and experimenting 👍
@pop5678eye
@pop5678eye 2 жыл бұрын
Simulator: you can tell drivers which lanes to use and they will politely yield. RL: drivers in the left-turn-only lane will cut across three lanes to turn right at the last moment without signaling.
@TheRealLink
@TheRealLink 4 жыл бұрын
Really neat to see you work through these road problems, and I don't happen to play Cities. But still a very cool game from the little I did test out.
@technicalscience
@technicalscience 4 жыл бұрын
Saw this video a week or so back, immediately hunted for the game - £5.70 on HumbleBundle. Now I've lost many hours to it. Thanks Biffa, great videos and you helped me discover this great game. Cheers!
@Blaze6108
@Blaze6108 4 жыл бұрын
Hah, finally subscribed. I love your city fixes too much to miss them at this point! And, how about a city fix about trains? It seems that after I have enough stations the city gets a terrible "train jam" even if all my train connections are long enough to avoid deadlocks (IE longer than 1 train length).
@SeanLamb-I-Am
@SeanLamb-I-Am 4 жыл бұрын
You mentioned the bottlenecks into the industry sections, but there are still not enough connections between districts. Add a few bridges over the highway to connect them and prevent cars from using the highway interchanges just to get across to the other side. Also, add bike and pedestrian walkways over the highways. The citizens will walk if they are given a path to walk on.
@stephenm879
@stephenm879 4 жыл бұрын
Some boss post editing and music choices. Enjoyed the commentary and video overall. I'll have to check out the rest of your stuff. Cheers m8.
@mikeem848
@mikeem848 4 жыл бұрын
@10:34 I would've done grade separation instead of moving a whole intersection over since there's plenty of space to modify the on and off ramps. That scenario shares the same big flaw with four leaf clovers. You have merging on traffic conflicting with merging off traffic, causing weaving. Grade separation is usually my answer instead of moving whole intersections like that since there's plenty of space to do so.
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