Is a Physical Therapist a Doctor?

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Tim Fraticelli - PTProgress

Tim Fraticelli - PTProgress

4 жыл бұрын

I'll give you my thoughts on whether or not a Physical Therapist should be called "Doctor" What do you think? Should a PT introduce themselves as "Dr. ____"?

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@jimboniusmaximus6018
@jimboniusmaximus6018 4 жыл бұрын
I agree and understand everything mentioned in the video. From a humility perspective, PTs should try not to overstep what their credentials mean, sure. However, I also think that PTs need to step up their game in terms of advocating for the profession. Most people have NO idea what we do, or who we are. And whenever it comes up in a discussion with patients that myself and other PTs have a clinical doctorate, 9 times out of 10 the patient is blown away and I tend to notice an immediate difference in compliance. From a functional perspective, if people fully understood what our credentials are, I believe we would significantly increase patient compliance and positive outcomes. Because at the end of the day, a white coat and the title "Dr." are universally recognized symbols. You don't need to spend an incredible amount of time convincing someone that you know what you're talking about, because as soon as they see that white coat, or DPT (the word DOCTOR) the quality is simply implied. That person is now instantly more likely to listen to you from the beginning, because they immediately understand. Especially, if you're dealing with older geriatric patients who have dementia or memory problems and ONLY recognize those symbols. You will NEVER hear Chiropractors never refer to themselves as "Doctor" every chance they get. By NOT letting people know who we are, we're essentially just shooting ourselves in the foot and hindering our progress of getting patients better and moving well. That's the reality. As a result, PTs are the Ned Stark of the medical world. I think we need to find a way to strike a balance.
@ZKAinfinite
@ZKAinfinite 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right! I was thinking the same thing
@lukaszm7378
@lukaszm7378 3 жыл бұрын
Physiotherapy came out of nursing and massaging. Physios are on the same level as nurses, not doctors.
@jimboniusmaximus6018
@jimboniusmaximus6018 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukaszm7378 And medicine came out of shamans and herbalism, what's your point? A "doctor" denotes level of education, not a profession. Physicians are doctors of their craft. Dentists are doctors of their craft. Pharmacists are also doctors of their craft. Radiologists are doctors of their craft. Ophthalmologists are doctors of their craft. Physiotherapists are doctors of their craft. They're all doctors. So no, they're not on the same level as nurses. PTs are experts in musculoskeletal pathologies and movement based, physical medicine. It takes 7 years to obtain a Doctor of Physical Therapy degree and the field is growing exponentially, albeit still in it's infancy.
@lukaszm7378
@lukaszm7378 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimboniusmaximus6018 False analogy. I quote the CSP 1894 The Society is established as the Society of Trained Masseuses by Lucy Marianne Robinson, Rosalind Paget, Elizabeth Anne Manley and Margaret Dora Palmer. The four nurses wish to protect their profession after stories in the press warn young nurses and the public of unscrupulous people offering massage as a euphemism for other services. 1900 The Society acquires the legal and public status of a professional organisation and becomes the Incorporated Society of Trained Masseuses.
@spartalives
@spartalives 3 жыл бұрын
I think that every medical professional should use their title, you earned it and within the scope of medicine you PT are practicing a specific kind of medicine just like a Dentist or Podiatrist. If a patient comes into your office for physical therapy you should she "high I'm doctor XXX, I'm your physical therapist." The only real source of confusion is with medical doctors and advance practice nurses. But even then you earned a doctorate degree in medical science use your title. What needs to change is advocacy and public education. The AMA has over a hundred years of getting their message out it is past time for other medical specializations to defend their turf and clarify their role in the public consciousness. For example, going to the dentist, no one confuses Dr. Clean Teeth, DDS with Dr. McSexy, MD context matters. But for the lowest common denominator patient just say "I'm a doctor of physical therapy, my training is of the same caliber as a medical doctor but I specialized in physical movement and the illness therein and not illnesses of organ systems." "Medical Doctors make referrals to Doctors of specializations, I'm a specialist."
@drkashifdptbpt6022
@drkashifdptbpt6022 3 жыл бұрын
I had DPT and a BPT 4.5 years with 6months of internship we can use DR as prefix and Pt suffix
@sayanroy7640
@sayanroy7640 3 жыл бұрын
You should you have earned it bro.
@Moe-bg1or
@Moe-bg1or 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree that patients get confused and non-physicians cannot be a doctor. If we study the history of the word "doctor" we realise that it's not specific to only physician. Only in the 19th Century " Dr" was being used for all physicians in the UK. Patients/ people do not get confused when they meet a professor with Phd, optometrist, chiropractor, acupuncturist (in the US) using "Dr", why would they be confused when PTs use it. The whole idea of APTA to raise the profession to a doctor level was to gain the respect we deserve with our skills. Anyone who uses this prefix (including MDs, PTs, ODs, DCs should clearly state their profession).
@lukaszm7378
@lukaszm7378 3 жыл бұрын
Physiotherapy came out of nursing and massaging. Physios are more or less nurses, they were never meant to be Doctors.
@elguada123
@elguada123 3 жыл бұрын
Gfto you wanna be doctor
@ewebbo
@ewebbo 3 жыл бұрын
How wouldn’t a patient get confused??? When you’re in a medical setting and someone says “I’m Doctor....” you think MD since you’re in a MEDICAL setting. It should be completely illegal for non MD’s to use the title “Dr” in any medical setting.
@Moe-bg1or
@Moe-bg1or 3 жыл бұрын
@@ewebbo To understand who can and cannot legally use the prefix "Dr" its important to know the history, etymology and its current usage around the globe. Without which 95% of physicians will keep hurting their ego when someone else will rightfully use it.
@Moe-bg1or
@Moe-bg1or 3 жыл бұрын
@@ewebbo There is a reason why it's not illegal for anyone other than a medical doctor to use it. Because it's NOT synonymous with physicians.
@heavensgirl7412
@heavensgirl7412 4 жыл бұрын
Very humble young man, thanks for explaining!
@WifeWithoutKids
@WifeWithoutKids 4 жыл бұрын
I hear you on this! I always make sure ppl know I’m NOT an actual medical Dr, but a DPT.
@pachacuti8403
@pachacuti8403 3 ай бұрын
I'd call myself doctor absolutely. And I also call other specialists doctor if they have done their doctorate in their chosen field whether it would be engineering, physics, mathematics, psychology, chiropractic, law, business, and of course medical doctors
@thierycyrus5474
@thierycyrus5474 3 жыл бұрын
The Dr of Nursing got me 🤣🤣🤣thanks well explained
@sarastowe9589
@sarastowe9589 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. People always dunking on nurses. It’s so hilarious.
@dberk813
@dberk813 3 жыл бұрын
DNP is more difficult to obtain than a DPT by far. Healthcare would crumble without nurses but healthcare wouldn't bat an eye without PTs. Funny how some people make less of a nurse, yet hold much more responsibility in their hands.
@kiranthounaojam9427
@kiranthounaojam9427 3 жыл бұрын
Every paramedic can called Dr😁.
@patandrade5597
@patandrade5597 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the "Doctor" title is just a trap for higher college tuition. A Physical therapist with a BS or a DPT is still a PT (both with 3 years of PT school). Furthermore, insurance reimbursements are the same for either provider. As a matter of fact, a BPT may have way more clinical knowledge and experience than a DPT.
@drsubina4266
@drsubina4266 3 жыл бұрын
this is the best answer to my question “ can physiotherapists call themselves doctor?” myself being a PT intern we need more physiotherapists like you.
@rickyg.3111
@rickyg.3111 4 жыл бұрын
This conversation is probably one of the dumbest in the healthcare field lol. Nobody would dare call a pharmacist, podiatrist, dentist, or psychologist by their first name and not their title despite not being physicians either, but for whatever reason people only think it's "egocentric" and "overstepping" for a PT with a DPT to use their title. The truth is other health professions just don't respect physical therapists. And some older PTs resent the fact that they've been practicing 20+ years without a doctorate title while new PT grads are coming out the gate with it. So everyone expects DPTs to downplay their accomplishments to make everyone feel comfortable. And the whole "pAtIeNts wIlL bE cOnFuSeD" argument is just another excuse to reinforce the devaluing of PTs. Most patients are intelligent enough to make the distinction and if not, you educate them. I really don't see why this is such a big deal and it's not going to become less of deal until DPTs start asserting themselves and being apologetic about their own credentials that they've worked hard to earn.
@lukaszm7378
@lukaszm7378 3 жыл бұрын
Physiotherapy came out of nursing and massaging. Physios are more or less nurses, they were never meant to be Doctors.
@kriswellman3446
@kriswellman3446 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukaszm7378 trolling much?
@lukaszm7378
@lukaszm7378 3 жыл бұрын
@@kriswellman3446 Do your research befor calling me a troll. Physiotherapy was called came from nursing and the "Chartered society of physiotherapy was originall the "Society of trained messeuses" I quote the CSP: www.csp.org.uk/about-csp/who-we-are/our-history/csp-history 1894 The Society is established as the Society of Trained Masseuses by Lucy Marianne Robinson, Rosalind Paget, Elizabeth Anne Manley and Margaret Dora Palmer. The four nurses wish to protect their profession after stories in the press warn young nurses and the public of unscrupulous people offering massage as a euphemism for other services. 1900 The Society acquires the legal and public status of a professional organisation and becomes the Incorporated Society of Trained Masseuses.
@kriswellman3446
@kriswellman3446 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukaszm7378 k?
@oof9395
@oof9395 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukaszm7378 it's the 21st century, you don't expect professions to just be limited to how they came to be. The profession is advancing along with technology and new knowledge. Yes, Pt's originated from nurses back in WWII but the field has evolved since over the years due to its specialized scope. For example: Nurses touch a little bit of everything in medicine while PTs specializes and are experts in movement.
@dweyhrauch09
@dweyhrauch09 9 ай бұрын
I'm a physician (MD) and an advocate for PT so this topic has always been interesting to me. I like the lawyer example; PTs do 3 years of intensive, post graduate study and are subject matter experts in their field (non-surgical MSK management) and don't get the recognition they deserve from the general public. The answer to this question is simple - each medical field can confer a doctorate, and those individuals can then go by doctor. When discussing a doctor in health care settings, though, the just-about-universal consensus is that it's a reference to a physician / medical doctor, specifically. Many health professionals 'have a doctorate' but aren't 'a doctor' in the conversational sense. You wouldn't say, 'oh my daughter's a doctor' if she was a PT but you would if they were a pediatrician or surgeon. You have a doctor's appt if you're seeing a physician but you have a dentist appt if you're seeing a dentist, even if the dentist has a doctorate and goes by doctor. I would like for PTs to get the recognition they deserve. Just like a JD Lawyer could go by doctor, they simply go by lawyer because that title provides the commensurate prestige of the position. It's true that doctor is derived from docere and should really be conferred just to PhDs. If we had to pick one, they are the 'real' doctors. Physicians have been called doctors for centuries, though. It will take a while before it becomes a level playing field with non-physician doctors also being referred to generally as doctors. Perhaps it will change during my lifetime and I may end up qualifying that I'm a medical doctor. Health care has osteopathic physicians, podiatrists, NPs, CRNAs, dentists, audiologists, pharmacists, psychologists, and alternative health care roles like chiropractors and naturopaths that also confer doctorates. I think there's a shared goal to enhance patient care by maximizing the care potential and training for each role, while also balancing that against increased loan burden and training time. When an individual like a CRNA says that they are Dr X a board-certified nurse anesthesiologist, which isn't common but does happen, it confuses patients. Clearly stipulating the role, like mentioned in this video, is extremely important. As essentially every type of health care professional starts to have a doctorate, maybe the title will become less special. I have not heard or seen if doctoral trained PTs provide superior care to masters trained PTs. I am one of those that wonder if the push for DPT was more about competition with chiropractors, to not be perceived as lesser than other health care fields, out of a frustration that PTs have superior MSK knowledge but that's not recognized, to get direct access (which I'm frankly shocked they don't have), and/or for other privileges like imaging. I do hope they at least get better access and are able to be better recognized as experts in MSK (compared to chiropractors in particular).
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 9 ай бұрын
Hey Derek! Thanks for the very thoughtful reply! I agree with you! Bottom line is to avoid patient confusion. And yes, the DPT was 100% to “compete” with chiros in my opinion. Bachelor and Master degree PTs provide excellent care and frankly, you can’t tell the difference in care (besides age nowadays since those clinicians are 40+ now)
@dweyhrauch09
@dweyhrauch09 9 ай бұрын
@@PTProgress - thanks for the thoughtful reply back! Yeah at least on the PT advocacy front, 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend,' and so, while I'm an advocate for PT respect and direct access regardless, I am going to support anything that is able to guide patients toward PTs and away from chiropractic manipulation (particularly as a primary modality for undifferentiated patients and without treatment in concert with a PT or physician) I think we will end up seeing some clarification on doctor titles in health care with the significant expansion of doctoral degrees across multiple health care professionals (eg if a surgeon, cardiologist, internist, DNP, PharmD, and DPT all meet at bedside for rounds). If anything, and not that it matters, I'm more defensive of the term physician (and also of the use of residency and fellowship, since I literally resided in the hospital, then fellowship was worse). I'd prefer just MDs be labeled as physicians. You could then argue 'doctor' is just like soldier - not every soldier is a Navy Seal, there are SEALS, green berets, Army Officers, Paratroopers, etc.
@Moe-bg1or
@Moe-bg1or 4 жыл бұрын
Physicians in Germany cannot use the prefix Dr as its only reserved for Phd holders. If general population is unaware of this phenomenon its our duty to help them understand just as we explain them the various specialities/skills we have. In the US we have been pretty lagging to allow direct access to PTs or ability to prescribe an x ray. Until we raise the bar and hold ourselves in the most professional level it wont happen soon. And I believe it starts with the right introduction.
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
Mohsin Ansari very interesting fact about German PhDs! Thank you for commenting! I’m really glad to have you share this with the viewers!
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
Mohsin Ansari very interesting fact about German PhDs! Thank you for commenting! I’m really glad to have you share this with the viewers!
@dweyhrauch09
@dweyhrauch09 9 ай бұрын
I think that's also the concern with changing the PT degree to a DPT degree. Putting 'the cart before the horse.' It wasn't that the field became that much more complex or that the role changed or 'required' further training, but that granting the doctor title was done more as a political means, to enhance measures to obtain direct access, imaging privileges, and compete with chiropractors. I fully support PTs and really advocate for them with my patients and interactions with athletes (I'm a physician), but I do think it's unfortunate the degree came about this way rather than vice versa.
@DP-pj7qn
@DP-pj7qn 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree with him( man making the video) Dr. Before your name should be used to refer to physician/medical doctor...those that use it before their name nowadays (new graduates etc), I'm sure are very proud of their accomplishments but it really is like a dentist going around expecting to be called doctor when they by no way have the education, training and knowledge of physicians/medical doctors.
@bahaamansour2530
@bahaamansour2530 2 жыл бұрын
I think the title doctor should not be used with any degree or health profession unless they have a doctoral degree. The academic title should be related to the profession example, physician, pharmacist, physiotherapist. Even physicians, in my opinion, can not use the title doctor unless they have a doctoral degree. The problem with this title is creating a lack of trust with patients; when patients come for physio, and we give them our diagnosis and treatment plan, they sometimes say we will consult the doctor first. The reason here because they only trust the title doctor, and that affects the patient's willingness to recover and compliance with the treatment plan. In my opinion, there are two options for solving this problem either no one in health care uses the title doctor at all unless they have a doctoral degree, even physicians or any healthcare provider who is qualified to diagnose and create a treatment plan have to use tile doctor as physiotherapists. Physiotherapists are experts in assessing, diagnosing, and treating the musculoskeletal system. Patients will respect each profession and will increase the patient’s trust and compliance with the treatment plan. But giving only the title doctor to physicians gives them a higher authority over all other professions. So the solution is to give the title to all or take it from all unless you earn a doctoral degree.
@platophilosopher1293
@platophilosopher1293 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. In the UK, medical doctors who are specialists in their respective fields (e.g. cardiology, etc) are often formally addressed and referred to as Mr - unless they have a PhD - in which case they would legitimately be referred to as Dr. The same should go for other health care professionals.
@maryjacksonrealestateagent8922
@maryjacksonrealestateagent8922 2 жыл бұрын
In Michigan, it used to be if you used the Dr. in front of your name, you had to put your credentials (D.D.S., D.C., D.P.T, D.V.M., etc)behind it unless you were a Medical Doctor (M.D.) or (osteopath) Doctor of Osteopathy (D.O.). I don't know if this has changed.
@jasonhgtran
@jasonhgtran 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim, I have been contemplating choosing my long term career as a physical therapist for weeks and I have just found your channel today. That's awesome actually. Thanks a lot for your sharing, keep going mate because you are doing very well. Love it!!
@serdmelen
@serdmelen 4 жыл бұрын
Good point, we dont want to confuse our patients.
@gix5936
@gix5936 3 жыл бұрын
This video is great! When I attended college, I had professors demand they were called Dr. “so and so.” Oh yeah.... lol
@AverageJoePT
@AverageJoePT 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I try and explain this to all of the students that work with me during their clinical rotations. It sometimes is difficulty due to some colleges pushing this doctor idea. Yes, I also have my DPT:)
@pushbodypushmind
@pushbodypushmind Жыл бұрын
Maybe for you is not a big deal to be called a doctor, but a doctor of physical therapy is still a doctor, just as much as a doctor of MD, Dr. Chiropractic, or a nurse transitioning into a doctorate. They’re experts, some specialties are more holistic than others , but it doesn’t take away the fact that they’re doctors. Also, you failed to mention that physical therapist have the option to go into fellowships and residencies to further specialize in a particular field of their choice within physical therapy. A patient going under cardiac surgery cannot fully recover without a physical therapist. You might as well forget about healing fully if you don’t have the doctor of physical therapy giving expert advice to go back to normal mobility. Don’t downplay your title of being an expert of mobility and being a doctor. You should be proud that you’re a doctor. You work hard for it.
@drbirendrachettri2450
@drbirendrachettri2450 4 жыл бұрын
In our country after completing our 4 and half years bachelor of Physiotherapy course we use prefix Dr infront of our name and suffix PT so that there is no confusion in the patients. Eg. Dr Tim (PT)
@atharvap1994
@atharvap1994 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Im a student of PT studying in the UAE. I am looking for some advice.
@haphysicaltherapisthashema4589
@haphysicaltherapisthashema4589 4 жыл бұрын
what's your country?
@tezendarkhatri8950
@tezendarkhatri8950 4 жыл бұрын
Daju kun thau bata hajur
@s9t.peppers
@s9t.peppers 4 жыл бұрын
I find it easier to talk to someone who introduces themself by their first name before their title. "Hi! I'm Tim, Dr. of PT" is perfect as it is not misleading and doesn't make you sound pretentious.
@rickyg.3111
@rickyg.3111 4 жыл бұрын
So when physicians call themselves Dr. Tim are they pretentious?
@ritabos7162
@ritabos7162 3 жыл бұрын
This is so dumb. They can call themselves however the hell they want they worked hard for it. You’re so stupid.
@zainabali6785
@zainabali6785 3 жыл бұрын
Whats so pretentious in calling ur self a dr. When u have worked hard for 5 -7 years... as in my county pakistan , dpt is a 5 year degree program with all the subjects as mbbs except the surgery... we do 1 year practice then 2 year specialization then wth is wrong in calling ourselves dr.
@s9t.peppers
@s9t.peppers 3 жыл бұрын
@@zainabali6785 all im saying is, introduce your name first before your title. PTs or physicians or OTs, name first.
@babeesh12345
@babeesh12345 4 жыл бұрын
There has been an ongoing debate for years that who all can be called as doctors in India as there are a number of healthcare streams in the country. However, in a judgment released by Supreme Court (SC) way back in 1996, it was held that medical practitioners who have an MBBS degree and above are alone referred to as doctors. Physiotherapists register with their council as therapists only and cannot prefix their names with the title of ‘Dr’. The Madras High Court had also said that even Ayurveda and Siddha practitioners should not use this title. However, the Indian Association of Physiotherapists has a different story to tell. According to the association, physiotherapists can use the title ‘Dr’ before their names and the Medical Council of India (MCI) and the Indian Medical Association (IMA) have no statutory power to regulate the profession in India. The General Secretary of IAP has started a trial against IMA and MCI for defaming the professionals by asking them not to call themselves as doctors. They also said that physiotherapist will prefix their names with ‘Dr’ and suffix the same with (PT) and write physiotherapist in all their communications. The Rehabilitation Council of India Act, 1994 The RCI Act was enacted in 1994 to regulate the training of rehabilitation professions and to maintain a central rehabilitation register for all the matters connected to these professions. According to Section 2 in xvii chapter of the RCI Act, the term ‘physiotherapist’ refers to a rehabilitation professional. Thus, Indian physiotherapist are regulated by the provisions of the RCI Act and its rules and regulations. The act also states that physiotherapists are not allowed to practice medicine and to prescribe drugs, especially the scheduled drugs that are listed in the Drugs and the Cosmetics Act on their own. They do not possess the recognised qualification as mentioned in the Indian Medical Council Act 1956. Also, they cannot and should not claim themselves to be a specialist medical practitioner by prefixing ‘Dr’ with their name in their prescription. Practicing this is an offense in the eyes of the law and the said person is a quack and can be dealt with imprisonment or penalty or both. SC’s verdict The SC says that the Section 15 (2) (b) of the 1956 Act prohibits all practitioners from practicing and prescribing modern scientific medicine in any state and in any medical branch except the medical practitioner who has been enrolled in the Medical Register of the state. It further elaborates that the term ‘doctor’ should be used only by the practitioners of Allopathic systems of Medicine that has been recognised by the Government of India. The term should not be considered for modes of therapies. The physiotherapists are not allowed to portray themselves as registered medical practitioners by prefixing the word ‘Dr’ with their name. If they are found guilty, then they are considered to have committed an offense under different sections of the Indian Penal code.
@zainabali6785
@zainabali6785 3 жыл бұрын
In my country pakistan, dpt is a 5 year degree with 1 year of practice... we r taught everything just as in mbbs just except surgery... Also we r allowed to use Dr. as our prefix💜 Btw i am also doing dpt💜
@humeira1794
@humeira1794 3 жыл бұрын
How much do pt's earn ???
@beinghamza904
@beinghamza904 3 жыл бұрын
@@humeira1794 zero.
@humeira1794
@humeira1794 3 жыл бұрын
Being Hamza 😂😂😂how is that possible !?
@savageronin2094
@savageronin2094 3 жыл бұрын
@@humeira1794 fresh graduates earn 30k + per month...experienced can earn 7 lakh + per month in Pakistan
@ghulammohiudin6886
@ghulammohiudin6886 3 жыл бұрын
I am also a student of physiotherapy💕💕
@pinkcardigan3329
@pinkcardigan3329 3 жыл бұрын
I personally know a pt who exclusively wants to be addressed as Dr. WXYZ (I'm talking introductions and her wedding invitation 😂) yes it's a doctorate that was hard and well earned but she takes it next level
@KittyGamer0615
@KittyGamer0615 4 жыл бұрын
I agree disagree with you. There needs to be the distinction, but as you know, the PT profession is misunderstood and under appreciated. One part of that change is going to come from therapists standing up and saying this is my education, this is what I do. We diagnose and treat a wide variety of condition. As long as PTs put their value below a physician, that keeps us in the allied mindset. Not good for our profession.
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Travis, thanks for your comment! I’m glad you shared your opinion, especially since I’m sure others share your views too! As physios, we are most definitely a valued part of healthcare, even if we are considered allied health professionals. Nothing wrong with that! We should value our training as physios and acknowledge how our training is different than physicians or nurses, not better and not any less important. This is where I think we respectfully disagree: the title of Dr isn’t going to bring more respect to the profession. Yes, some patients and physicians may look highly on our advanced and expensive training. But the proof/value is in the treatment. This is how we should set our profession apart...not by titles. Again, I appreciate your input and welcome other comments too!
@lukaszm7378
@lukaszm7378 3 жыл бұрын
Physiotherapy came out of nursing and massaging. Physios are on the same level as nurses, not on the level of doctors.
@TheSha19
@TheSha19 3 жыл бұрын
Tim, why not both?
@ahmedashik96
@ahmedashik96 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukaszm7378 false
@PGayed
@PGayed 2 жыл бұрын
I see this issue only in our profession, and mainly in the US only, because somehow, someway, everyone associated the term 'doctor' to a 'physician', and this issue will continue to be a thorn in our security until people this gentleman address and fix their inferiority complex. I think it stems from our lack of confidence in our degrees, and because we're still in the transitional phase, having to deal with our superiors who are not DPTs, who may feel inferior to those who use the initials 'Dr.' A doctor is a doctor, and it has nothing to do with being a MD, DPT, DDS, DPM, OD, DO, DC, PhD, etc. A doctor by definition refers to the fact that I have reached the doctoral level of education in xyz profession or study, which stems from the term 'docere' or 'teach', and it goes back to the early centuries, where the early church used the term 'doctor' to those interpreting the bible, and theologians. When you meet a dentist, do you call them by their first name? When you see your eye DOCTOR, do you refer to them by their first name? And when you call them 'doctor' are you confused that they are not in fact your GP?! If you do, step back to the front entrance and ask yourself this question, why am I here? and who am I here to see? and if you're still confused, you have another set of issues.
@NatJac-gg3mv
@NatJac-gg3mv 4 жыл бұрын
Most Bachelor level PTs from the 80/90s and before have 25 plus years more of experience and extensive knowledge base than the newer PTs/DPT. Ive heard from many PTs (with a bachelor or master degree) say that their DPT internship students have no idea what they are doing and many do not know the basic and most simpliest of PT fundamentals, frameworks, kinesthetic foundation and you name it. Also, the industry pays the same amount to PT or OT with a BA, MA, or DPT/DOT. I have many pts that will tell me, "I saw the doctor today". I then say "oh your doctor was here"? Its very confusing to them because the PT with a DPT often presents themselves to the pt as medical doctors. I then explain to the pt that its a physical therapist that has a doctorate degree. Also, I think its important to understand that because DPT is a requirement to be a physical therapist these days ( there are no more BA or MA) programs. So that fact sets a stage that not every DPT has the same drive and passion for the field. Many are doing it because its forced so to speak.
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
Nat Jac, yes, it can be confusing to the patient and even other clinicians if someone refers to their PT as “seeing their doctor”. I appreciate your comment - Tim
@AllPro777
@AllPro777 4 жыл бұрын
What is the confusion? A therapist in any field holding a Doctorate is a Doctor. It's that simple. If a patient is so dumb that they don't know the difference between an MD and a DPT, then they should be referred to a Doctor of Psychology...
@NatJac-gg3mv
@NatJac-gg3mv 4 жыл бұрын
@@AllPro777 ....it has nothing to do with if a pt is "stupid". Ppl have Dementia, unclear recollections, developmental delays, strokes, brain injuries, or just forgetful resulting in them not Always being able to tell the difference. PTs should not introduce themselves as doctors. Should simply say Im the PT unless the pt asks where did you attend school or how long did your schooling take. Which is a question I have gotten before.
@missireason8998
@missireason8998 4 жыл бұрын
Technically, lawyers can be referred to as a doctor as well, because they earn a 3-year juris doctorate degree. Oh, and don't forget Pharmacists, who earn a doctorate degree in Pharmacology. With them, I have no objections at all in calling them a doctor, because their profession has moved into the role of 'medical doctor' in recent years, with them administering vaccine shots, and providing counseling on the functions of in-home test kits for disease detection, such as cologuard. It used to be family medical doctors sent you to private labs or hospital labs for disease detection testing. Now, with the on-demand shopping model moving into medicine, patients are going to pharmacies to purchase such kits, and in some cases, patients can purchase the kits online, so Pharmacists are the only ones on the front lines providing educational and instructional information about such tests. Honestly, if someone has earned a doctorate degree, and they want to use the title of doctor, then so be it. Patients do have the responsibility of asking about what they don't know or understand. It a patient has concerns of questions, and makes the choice to not ask questions, then they face the consequences come what may. Overall, our society needs, through education starting with those on the front lines (like you Tim) that not all doctors are medical doctors, and not all people who are medical providers have a doctorate level degree. For example, Physician Assistants!! PAs are more and more performing the traditional role of a medical doctor, and PA school is set up very similar to medical schools, with rotations through all of the medical disciplines, and clinical duties. Yet PAs can't refer to themselves as a doctor. Plus, the general public hears the term, Assistant, and automatic thinks of the PA as an apprentice or someone that just walks behind a medical doctor holding the laptop to update an electronic chart or even to just be around to get the medical doctor's coffee or clean lab coats. Of all healthcare professions that are underestimated, misunderstood, and undervalued, it is a Physcian Assistant. This changes through education of the public. Have the conversation. By simply having patients call health professionals by their first names, to avoid the possibility of confusion, keeps such conversations, and the spread of knowledge from happening, and that's a big mistake.
@BossofBosses111
@BossofBosses111 4 жыл бұрын
They aren't undervalued in terms of pay lol
@gesshugh9976
@gesshugh9976 4 жыл бұрын
Actually a lawyer is an exception, there is a doctorate of law, but if you only have a j.d, you can only refer to yourself as a doctor if your bar allows it. It varies from state to state.
@drgauravmohan5260
@drgauravmohan5260 2 жыл бұрын
Is lawyer treat patients? Is Pharmacist or assistant can asses case or treat patients?? Are lawyers able to asses medical cases, make diagnosis or treatment protocol can apply independently???? But Physiotherapist can do all these things independently as per APTA, WHO, ICMR definitions sincelong. Without Physiotherapist patient can't wean off from ventilator & also so many cases without physiotherapy treatment can't be resolved. I hope u won't need it in future then only u ll understand why physiotherapy has an important vital role in Healthcare sector. It has role from Ground to Critical care(a very vast). Medicines are like Chemical medicine but Electrotherapy is called as Physical medicine in literatures. I hope u can update ur knowledge with 20th Century
@kevinvan6205
@kevinvan6205 3 жыл бұрын
I understand your point of view. Many PTs share your POV but typically with the newer generation of PTs, the now exclusively DPTs, there is understanding than when you say Dr. So and So, you say Doctor of Physical Therapy. There is no confusion about pretending to be a physician. Like you mention, PTs treat movement disorders and deficits and improve a patients movement patterns and physical capabilities. That is not what a physician does and there will be no confusion to your patients when you say "Hey I'm Dr. So an So, I'm your physical therapist. Patients typically ask about what a doctor of physical therapy is and that is a great conversation to have with your patients about the field of physical therapy, as well as educating the pubic in general. Your patients will understand the difference in professions. If you don't want to use the Prefix Dr. that is perfectly fine, that is your personal choice. However, dissuading the use of the term Dr. by other DPTs, many of whom are constantly marketing and advocating for the profession, feels very disheartening. How can you expect the public and other health care workers to respect this profession when many people still think physical therapy is just a fancy form of massage or personal training? Using the rightfully earned title of Dr so and so, Doctor of Physical Therapy, is one of those ways. It may not be the only way but it does entice people to learn more about what Physical Therapy and what a Doctor of Physical Therapy is. Furthermore, I don't find Dr of Nursing clip entertaining at all... Im assuming you are referring to Nurse Practitioner and to be frank. you don't want to open that can of warms.. First and foremost, nurses are amazing and without nurses Medicine would not be same... You have nurses that get their Doctor of Nurse Practitioner and they have an important role in Medicine. They never pretend to be Physicians, they are proud to be nurse practitioners. They will gladly explain their profession to patients. I say this because nurses and NPs get enough crap from the public and some physician. Watching your clip and making fun of that profession was Not Necessary. You are a KZfaqr and Public Figure. I would hope you realize the impact your words have to your audience. PS I do watch your videos and you have great content about financial literacy and helping out PTs and future PTs, keep up the good work.
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. You made a few points that I'd like to address - not to argue, but to clarify my stance. Your opinion is also valuable and welcomed here. 1. In my opinion, the respect of physical therapists should not hinge on the title Dr. There are plenty of respected medical professionals without the title Dr. in front of their name. As I mentioned in the video, if I use the title "Dr" with a patient, I'll say "Doctor of Physical Therapy" - others can choose how to use the title they earned, but as a profession, we need to focus more on the value we provide than the degree we have. I think PTs play a valuable and specific role in healthcare. Part of our value is because we are able to be so focused on the movement system, which is great! There's a dangerous line that a lot of PTs and schools are walking, trying to push for DPTs to be viewed as primary providers. I don't care if a PT has a BSPT, MSPT, or DPT, our value comes from our ability to restore function to the movement system through conservative interventions. I'm happy to share my thoughts in a separate video discussing the DPT and the primary provider issue I mentioned above. 2. About the Dr. of Nursing comment. I was not referring to an NP. A nurse can pursue a Ph.D. in nursing or a DNP which is different from a nurse practitioner. Nurse.org has a helpful article discussing the difference. I agree that nurses have an important role in medicine. But if a nurse with a doctorate degree (again, not saying an NP) walks into a room and says "I'm Dr. so and so", there's immediate confusion unless they qualify the title with "I'm a doctor of nursing." Would a nurse or PT or anyone I know willingly do this to confuse someone - of course not. But the point is to be clear with the title regardless of the field. 3. I fully realize that my videos may impact current / future PTs and take this platform seriously, carefully considering the points I share in each these videos. I appreciate the kind words about the videos, especially the financial videos. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to share your thoughts. - Tim
@user-nn7qz3it5w
@user-nn7qz3it5w 3 жыл бұрын
@@PTProgress Right
@dberk813
@dberk813 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with Kevin on this one. It was rather off putting towards nurses. Hearing comments like that are frustrating considering nurses offer much more to healthcare than a PT will ever have the capability of doing. I respect the PTs place, but at the end of the day it seems many are just in it for an ego trip.
@Studyydude12
@Studyydude12 4 жыл бұрын
Here in my country, we have a DPT program of 5 years, plus 1 year of training, they teach us basically everything that MBBS and other graduates are taught. Anatomy, physiology, pharmacology, we are just not taught surgery. And we are also allowed to add dr. before our name.
@gesshugh9976
@gesshugh9976 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard that in some places like the uk, a dpt is a full doctoral degree complete with thesis. In the U.S however, It is an entry level degree, and is roughly the equivalent of some masters.
@Studyydude12
@Studyydude12 3 жыл бұрын
@Tony Fayez no, I'm from Pakistan
@Studyydude12
@Studyydude12 3 жыл бұрын
@Tony Fayez omg this degree is so similar to the one we do here in pakistan. We are taught exactly the same subjects. I just got to know that we are also taught about orthopedic surgeries. The degree is considered a best option for students who didn't get admission in mbbs or bds here in pakistan, but sadly people aren't much aware of the scope of this degree. It is getting recognized though. We are even allowed to add "Dr" as prefix
@zainabali6785
@zainabali6785 3 жыл бұрын
I am also doing dpt in pakistan💜
@Studyydude12
@Studyydude12 3 жыл бұрын
@@zainabali6785 really? From which university??
@DasGimp
@DasGimp 2 жыл бұрын
Nurse practitioners who have a PhD or a DNP, who have gotten their bachelor's, masters, and then doctorate degrees (10 years of education) are able to identify themselves as Dr. (Insert their last name), but most states that allow this also state that the provider must explicitly inform the patient that they are a doctorate of nursing, not a doctorate of medicine. It is similar to a person who is has a doctorate of psychology vs. a doctorate of psychiatry. They both can be identified as doctor, but must identify their role. When you have psychiatric nurse practitioners with doctorates, the yes it can be confusing, but we all identify our roles. Dr. Einstein was a doctor and I don't think anyone views him as less than because his doctorate was in theoretical astrophysics. Doctorate simply implies you've reached the pinnacle of your area of education and are an expert in your field. Doctorate doesn't equate to intelligence level as the average IQ of medical.doctors is only 120, which is simply above average. It is more a reflection to your dedication, perseverance, and diligence. Since only 1% of Americans have a doctorate, it is something we should celebrate and admire. I do think it is silly that as a society we attributed only on field of education as "real" doctors. Slightly narcissistic of that particular field to claim ownership of the term.
@lyricsrule3876
@lyricsrule3876 3 жыл бұрын
Totally disagree. In Pakistan,DPT is a full 5 years doctoral program.As per the law, they can add prefix"Dr" with their name and suffix"PT" at the end of their names.I mean ,when you work so hard to earn a doctorate degree with spending tons of money on your education ,while also totally deserving the title then why cant you? Why would it be misleading ,when you are using the prefix and suffix with your name.DPT are rehabilitation doctors.Even physicians don't have much knowledge about the movement related issues more than DPT's because they have been fully focusing on that specific area for the last 5 years. You cant make everyone comfortable with it ,while degrading your own profession.Kindly,don't mislead the viewers because they already lack the basic knowledge about DPT and its worth. DPT's are indeed doctors in their area of specialty ,they are doctors of rehabilitation and physical therapy. They totally deserve the title for their extraordinary skills and treatment expertise.
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I appreciate your comment and passion. However, I don't think I'm misleading anyone. I state in the beginning of the video that a DPT is a doctor of physical therapy just like a DC is a doctor of chiropractic or an AUD is a doctor of audiology. Anyone with a DPT can use the prefix Dr, but I think it's wise to say what kind of doctor you are because everyone can be a doctor these days... Nothing wrong with saying "I'm a doctor of physical therapy". Not sure I agree with your comment about degrading the profession with my stance on the use of "Dr", but you're entitled to your opinion.
@lyricsrule3876
@lyricsrule3876 3 жыл бұрын
@@PTProgress Yep got your point! DPT are doctors of physiotherapy.which means they can use the prefix"Dr" with their name as well.However,calling i am doctor of physical therapy clears out confusion for patients ,i agree.
@lukaszm7378
@lukaszm7378 3 жыл бұрын
Physiotherapy came out of nursing and massaging. Read the history. Physios are more or less nurses and on the same level of nurses. They are not doctors
@drgauravmohan5260
@drgauravmohan5260 4 жыл бұрын
Well let me clear things, 1)Proper clearcut Law is not made for Physiotherapist till date. 2)Who r giving "Dr." degree to mbbs/etc disciplines(Obviously either law of that country or respective country's governed medical council). So that's why Physios trying make independent council as Dental did in past. 3)Why are you comparing nursing to physical therapist as Physiotherapist asses case & make management protocol so they work like other specialist in medical profession or in hospital as a multi-disciplinary team as other docs do. 4)Physios works independent also and they diagnose cases as well. 5)Already studied Pharmacology/Medicine/General surgery/Neurosurgery subjects as well(explaining this the thing is they are not illiterate or something that's just to well defined management of case when they start practice) 6)Some docs it takes as a egoistic approach as Physiotherapist mostly either stops medication or no need to medicines after or during Physiotherapy treatment coz patients is most of the time recovered better & stop surgery plan as well also lifestyle changes in a positive way. 7)Physiotherapy has Bachelor, Masters as well as PhD degrees. It's a vast field which is called physical medicine. 8)According to WHO/WCPT we have right to practice independently but we are fighting for strong council almost in every country like other disciplines MBBS,BAMS,BHMS,BDS,Unani etc. 9)If we go as per giving treatment , they Radiologist/Blood bank/Pathologist etc etc branches of specialization of MBBS, are they treat patients or do interventions??? 10)Dental was also not having council before but now after fight they have council. 11) Nursing are highly different from Physiotherapists...as they dont asses cases also dont make treatment plans. So why are you trying to defame Physiotherapy professionals. USE MIND & BRAIN COMMONSENSE Please. It's a year 2020 now... Please Don't talk like Tribal or Illiterate people. Respect for other Profession & dont misguide people with doc doc nurse nurse for which Physios are already trying to resolve their problem in community as community really needs True Physios. Many people are getting diplomas etc etc fake degree and they call themselves they are Physiotherapists. Then whts the significance of Real Physiotherapists who has work area from Critical Care unit to playground. Please try to spread mind waves broadly & talk logical dear. THANKS.
@dr.wayneharis6091
@dr.wayneharis6091 4 жыл бұрын
True👍🏻🔥
@lukaszm7378
@lukaszm7378 3 жыл бұрын
Physiotherapy came out of nursing and massaging. Physios are more or less nurses, not doctors.
@drgauravmohan5260
@drgauravmohan5260 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukaszm7378 😀 what a sharp I Q you have. U dreamed last night like that. Please update yourself also after sometime you will say MBBS and BHMS etc also came from nursing as they also take care of patients. Such a narrow mind you r having I can feel it
@iamphysio1410
@iamphysio1410 2 жыл бұрын
True
@jbenjamin7528
@jbenjamin7528 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, this title has completely gotten out of hand and has diluted the name, significantly. The qualifications for this degree (and the other’s mentioned) seem more appropriate as a MS degree.
@shedroids
@shedroids 2 жыл бұрын
YES. I want to stop calling fake physicians who push drugs "Doctor"...and call Physical Therapists Doctors... because I associate Doctor with someone who helps another human heal. A Physical Therapist works with his/her hands, discusses nutrition, discusses and guides with specific exercises that can relieve pain, manipulates tissue/massage or loosen tense muscle. YES, you are a Doctor and I will call you one.
@martinhollie32
@martinhollie32 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💪🏾
@jasonroy169
@jasonroy169 Жыл бұрын
I was an EMT and I’m in nursing school. My your definition I am a Doctor because I help people.
@sayanroy7640
@sayanroy7640 3 жыл бұрын
The term 'doctor' comes from a latin word Docere that means to teach and instruct. The doctor title is reserved for those who has completed their highest degree of education in their respective fields and that is why professors are the only professionals who technically have the right to be called as doctors. Out of respect, the doctors are called as doctors and this was introduced much later in the history. They are physicians and not doctors until they have done their MD that is doctorate of medicine similarly like nurse or physiotherapists who have done their doctorates. As becoming a surgeon already takes a doctoral level degree and years just like phd, they are doctors but not bachelor level physicians.
@ekko_the_gekko7452
@ekko_the_gekko7452 3 жыл бұрын
Can a DPT prescribe medicine? Curious cause someone asked me this question the other day, and I didn’t have a clear answer for them. 🤔
@asharedo
@asharedo 3 жыл бұрын
In the UK they can but not sure about USA
@gesshugh9976
@gesshugh9976 3 жыл бұрын
No. At least not in my state, and I don't think in any others. Depending on the state they can apply limited medicines, topical and aerosal, if they were prescribed by someone with legal authority to prescribe.
@JJ-iu5hl
@JJ-iu5hl 3 жыл бұрын
By the end of this video, the word "doctor" sounds really weird to me
@drgauravmohan5260
@drgauravmohan5260 4 жыл бұрын
Also Doctor prefix only can be use by PhD holder as a Doctorate as per law. Medical professionals are just like as devoted to treat patients or as a old way form as a tradition. That's the reality.
@teflteachermark3623
@teflteachermark3623 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim, Thanks for clearing this up. I was confused why the KZfaqr who refers to herself as DoctorJo only looks at physiotherapy issues.
@ssgg23
@ssgg23 Жыл бұрын
For some reason I genuinely thought physical therapists were medical doctors. But I guess I never thought about how they don’t prescribe medicine!
@spencerdean4181
@spencerdean4181 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’ve been trying to find books to help me understand how to develop mobility and flexibility to compliment my CSCS text book. Any recommendations?
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
spencer dean have you read the material from The Ready State, Kelly Starrett? His content comes to mind and I think you’ll find it valuable.
@spencerdean4181
@spencerdean4181 4 жыл бұрын
No I have not, thank you! I will look into that.
@gulamraish2360
@gulamraish2360 4 жыл бұрын
Can I use 'DR' as Prefix if I Complete DPT (Doctorate of Physical Therapy) Please reply to this 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Love your Videos ❤️
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
You can use the title Dr if you have a DPT, but like I mention in the video, I think it’s best to say “doctor of physical therapy”
@hokimoki3677
@hokimoki3677 3 жыл бұрын
A doctor is a doctor..
@jonfrancisobrero1631
@jonfrancisobrero1631 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. Tim, Is there a difference between a doctor of physical therapy(DPT) and a philosophy doctor(Ph.D.)?
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the DPT is a clinical doctorate and takes 3 years. A Ph.D. usually requires more research, independent study, and may take 4-5 years to complete. Some programs offer DPT/PhD options, but that’s really not necessary for PTs.
@kyogo9838
@kyogo9838 3 жыл бұрын
yes.. a very humble man...the important thing there is, if you can really help people and give them the right treatment, not because of what degree you earned.
@JustUpright
@JustUpright 3 жыл бұрын
Good videos Tim. Just in case you know any foreign trained PTs or PT applicants, I make videos on how to become a PT here in the US. Thanks so much. Jing Ruder, PT, DPT, CDP
@simonpedersen9703
@simonpedersen9703 4 жыл бұрын
How many years does it take to complete a doctorate in the us? In denmark you complete the bachelor 3 years. Than the master or as we call it, the candidate. The you go on for a 3 years reseacher study, called the ph.d NOT phD witch is the same as a doctorate, but the ph.d is a specific 3 year study. When completed you are alllowed a permenent employment at the university as reseacher and instructor, called adjunct. And after 10 to 12 years exstra you may become a doctor. At this you would have facilitated and published a lot of quality research.
@simonbacaltos5660
@simonbacaltos5660 3 жыл бұрын
Most of my patient call me Dr or my first name whichever they prefer. But I'm not shy to tell them I'm a DPT or doctor. I've gone thru the whole gamut from BS, MS, DPT with 1 yr of COMT, another year of OMT residency and another yr of fellowship.
@gerrykelly7077
@gerrykelly7077 4 жыл бұрын
As a retired PT (BS) I agree. DPTs are not doctors which you explained perfectly. I did know one who insisted on being called Dr. EGO
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
gerry Kelly thanks for the comment Gerry! I do value the level of training and the work required to become a PT, but wanted to give my 0.02 on the topic
@gerrykelly7077
@gerrykelly7077 4 жыл бұрын
And where were all these great instructional videos when I was in school!!!
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
@@gerrykelly7077 Thanks!!! I enjoy making these videos and hope current and future students learn from the clinical videos. If you enjoyed this video, you'll probably like the next few financial videos where I talk about the outrageous student loan crisis in the therapy world. It's out of control.
@AllPro777
@AllPro777 4 жыл бұрын
@@gerrykelly7077 Totally disagree. A person with a Doctorate is factually a Doctor. MDs do not own the title of Doctor. Doctor simply means "teacher", it has nothing to do with the field your Doctorate is in. The Physical Therapy field is a weird bunch of people downgrading themselves and their own work. It's so bizarre and depressing. I kind of feel sorry for you all.
@robertwadas
@robertwadas 5 ай бұрын
You introduce yourself as a Doctor of P.T ? Should you not say you HAVE a doctoral degree in P.T. ?
@Rene_Christensen
@Rene_Christensen 2 жыл бұрын
Should be reserved for PhD or higher doctorate degrees.
@vaishnavigupte
@vaishnavigupte 4 жыл бұрын
In some countries there's a 4 year+6 months internship Bachelor Of Physiotherapy degree but with that degree they can use the title Dr. So what's that then it's so confusing
@AllPro777
@AllPro777 4 жыл бұрын
I don't worry about it. I just eat Tandoori.
@rahulbendugade-patil9082
@rahulbendugade-patil9082 3 жыл бұрын
Yes man, in India BPT and MPT can used DR Title
@jibrilbarayseh
@jibrilbarayseh 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t sure what people meant when they say a word loses meaning after hearing it a lot, but after this video when I hear doctor I don’t hear the word, just the sound😂
@eklautasaquib
@eklautasaquib 3 жыл бұрын
I have also made video on this topic. My PT friends get offended.
@sakurarafiq819
@sakurarafiq819 2 жыл бұрын
Heck, even in Pakistan we can use the title of Dr. After studying 5 years in physiotherapy.
@tracygribble9638
@tracygribble9638 3 жыл бұрын
As PTA in long term care it is extremely misleading to some populations. The therapists I see PT/OT that insist on being called Dr. (Yes I work with two one OT one PT) it has more to do with them as a person. The thing people don't understand is what changes were made to become a doctoral program...that is primarily a research project, a written dissertation NOT more extensive medical training.
@damonkize
@damonkize Жыл бұрын
I’d have to disagree somewhat, after getting my DPT and becoming licensed, the education and board exam is much harder than it was when a PT was just a bachelors. The Doctorate is a terminal degree in the profession. No disrespect, but the number one thing I’ve noticed with most PTAs is the disconnect between what they go through, and what we go through to be in the clinic. It’s not close.
@RichardX51164
@RichardX51164 4 жыл бұрын
Question ..many years ago a Pt got on top of my glutes and did my back massage .Was that appropiate?
@saraantunes7683
@saraantunes7683 3 жыл бұрын
You are really good looking
@randywatson341
@randywatson341 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. PhD’s in History and Literature are allowed to be called doctor too. But only insufferable people would make that choice. Physicians and dentists should be called Doctor. Others should not. It’s not a value judgment. It’s just about honest vs misleading
@user-wp8sm7ru2b
@user-wp8sm7ru2b 6 ай бұрын
You are a dentist right? 😂
@randywatson341
@randywatson341 6 ай бұрын
@@user-wp8sm7ru2b I am a professional investor. No titles for me. I'm also a normal person who was raised properly, which is how I know who gets to call themselves Dr. and who doesn't.
@AntonioSanson
@AntonioSanson 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, Just found your channel and I’m lovin it! Keep up the good work. Great take on this topic. Where do you live in Michigan?!?! I also live in Michigan and do video, id love to collaborate with you sometime
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Antonio! Thanks, I appreciate it! I’m in Lansing. Where are you?!
@AntonioSanson
@AntonioSanson 4 жыл бұрын
PTProgress I live in a small town up in the thumb, Attica Michigan, Currently helped started an outpatient clinic in brown city which is where I work. But I’d love to maybe get together sometime and make a video with you. No pressure though, I just like your content 👍🏼
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
Antonio Sanson awesome! Yeah that would be fun! Thanks for reaching out! Looking forward to meeting up!
@KittyGamer0615
@KittyGamer0615 4 жыл бұрын
@@PTProgress me too! Well, i live in Laingsburg so I'm close.
@dr.mohitjambhrunkar620
@dr.mohitjambhrunkar620 4 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion & I understand it , but you are misleading your viewers. Because, here in India we study bachelor of Physiotherapy that is BPT it is 4 and Half year course, we attended all routine posting like medical students. Here we also performe some essential duties & handle some government projects as well. We are doing very nice & respectable work in India, hence we Deserve "Dr" Prefix .
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mohit - thanks for your input! This video is referencing the DPT degree we receive here in the United States. I do not want to mislead anyone about foreign programs and the job responsibility of PTs in other countries. I hope this helps to explain my intent in creating this video. My goal was to explain how it might be confusing to our patients if we do no differentiate our role as a “Dr. of Physical of Therapy” vs a “medical doctor.” I’m sure there are overlapping duties between physiotherapists and medical students or physicians in India, however, the overall jobs are very much different. Thank you again for your input and if this helps to clarify the video, I would love your support in liking this video :)
@aarohibarahalikar9136
@aarohibarahalikar9136 4 жыл бұрын
Surely we apply 'Dr' in prefix but after your name in suffix there's (PT)
@yza4896
@yza4896 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone is a doctor nowadays doctor of pt doctor of ot doctor of chirp doctor of nursing doctor of PA doctor of audiology
@yza4896
@yza4896 4 жыл бұрын
Btw I work in the hospital some physicians care some not but in general these doctors refer them as what type of doctor like internist family medicine physician cardiologist orthopedist
@AllPro777
@AllPro777 4 жыл бұрын
Its not a Doctor of PA. PAs get either a Doctor of Health Science or a Doctor of Medical Science.
@yza4896
@yza4896 4 жыл бұрын
@@AllPro777 i was just lazy of typing dude and it is a doctorate for PA so they are doctor of a doctor's assistant huh i think there are some proposals going around about changing pa to physician associate or something else i wouldn't be surprised one day when pa was called physician attending
@AllPro777
@AllPro777 4 жыл бұрын
@@yza4896 I think you're referring to a Doctorate of Physician Assistant STUDIES. Small difference, but different.
@Iamnotlon
@Iamnotlon 3 жыл бұрын
No mine had me have cervical surgery. She even had me run a treadmill when I was suffering badly with neck and shoulder pain. Why do they act like a doctor when they aren’t? I’m now phobic of them and slowly I’m trying to trust again.
@brianfernandez9592
@brianfernandez9592 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the experience you had. However, when you complete a doctorate level training you are a doctor of which ever profession you chose. The word DOCTOR simply means expert of. That being said a DPT can prefix their name with DR if they choose to. It is totally legal, ethical, exetera as long as they specify they are a doctor of physical therapy.
@steve00alt70
@steve00alt70 4 жыл бұрын
Can a personal trainer go in with a sports psyhcologist diploma? some i know are very creative individuals. Creativity and healthcare is good.
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
Optic500 a personal trainer can become a PT by completing a 3 year DPT program 👍
@scottjohnson8316
@scottjohnson8316 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing....if the title of doctor has to simply do with attaining the highest educational level so you can teach and instruct at that highest level but not actually save someone’s life like an actual physician, then physicians need to be called something other than doctor. As well as other people actually trained specifically to stabilize and sometimes save a persons life like PA’s , APN’s and emergency care personnel. Man if I had a DPT or a PhD I would NEVER expect or want anyone to call me doctor, especially in public. That’s embarrassing. It reminds of that guy who insisted on being called doctor by the airline staff before he boarded a plane. Then someone on the plane coded and all the staff went to him and he had to tell them that he’s actually not a real doctor.....its akin to calling someone who pumps gas a petroleum engineer.
@monikabaghel8284
@monikabaghel8284 2 жыл бұрын
Prefix dr not for dpt..
@suspapi274
@suspapi274 4 жыл бұрын
How can u get your PhD if you have a dpt
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 4 жыл бұрын
So in a professional environment your Tim DPT can you call your self DR Tim in a social environment?
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
No I don’t. No reason to do so.
@nardeenalqattan
@nardeenalqattan 4 жыл бұрын
Here a bachelor of PT is 6 years, god i’m still a first year student this is depressing, it’s in egypt btw.
@nardeenalqattan
@nardeenalqattan 4 жыл бұрын
And for people wondering a medicine degree is 7 years
@gesshugh9976
@gesshugh9976 3 жыл бұрын
@@nardeenalqattan Is that including the completion of your undergraduate, or is that just graduate time. In otherwords do you have to complete a 4 year bachelors before that?
@darvinlobaton4825
@darvinlobaton4825 11 ай бұрын
So chiropractors , optometrists , Acupuncturist and pharmacist can call themselves Drs and make the people call them Drs but no doctors in physical therapy 😂😂😂😂 , this is the ultimate USA GIVE ME A BRAKE !!!!! That’s healthcare ignorance and bullying , in South America physiotherapist are also osteopaths and we get called Drs , once I pass my Note am going to introduce myself as Doctor in physiotherapy period , there is already a lot of patients in the clinic where I work ready to call Me that , pts needs to understand that under their clinics you all rule and give yourself some respect. In other countries physicians are not called Drs they are called Medics
@monikabaghel8284
@monikabaghel8284 2 жыл бұрын
Yes bpt can use dr...
@merveilmeok2416
@merveilmeok2416 4 жыл бұрын
You are a very wise man.
@M.K-SAVE
@M.K-SAVE 4 жыл бұрын
can a PT do something to become medical?
@PTProgress
@PTProgress 4 жыл бұрын
They are in the medical profession already
@M.K-SAVE
@M.K-SAVE 4 жыл бұрын
@@PTProgress I mean to be able to prescribe medicine
@ravnitdeshpande
@ravnitdeshpande 4 жыл бұрын
Master degree in physiotherapy can place Doctor ??
@BossofBosses111
@BossofBosses111 4 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@dberk813
@dberk813 3 жыл бұрын
PT should still be a bachelors or masters level degree. The extra class or two that moved it to a doctoral degree is nonsense. It offers no additional insight while making therapists go deeper into debt and offers no more benefit to the patient. All a power play move by APTA. If a PT introduces themselves as doctor, I'd laugh.
@RAHULSHARMA-fb1lr
@RAHULSHARMA-fb1lr 4 жыл бұрын
Are u ...reaalllly physiotherapist ..u r actually degrading ur proffession ...in INDIA ..we. study 4.5 years of ungergraduate along with 3 years of post graduation ...wr spend 7.5 years to complete so we r completely dr...now dont know about u ...🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@sohammitra3100
@sohammitra3100 4 жыл бұрын
it works differently in other countries buddy, seeing as Tim is probably in a different country same rules dont apply
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