As long as my hair dryer doesn't get soaked in its spot behind my seat, it's streetable.

Sup guys, there seems to be a bit of missing the main point of this video. It's not meant to say you should difinitively buy this top over an OEM top. It's simply offering another option that many people don't know about, or that many people have questions about. If you were considering this top in the past, now you have a full overview on how to build it and what all of the components look like in detail. I see countless people on parts pages claiming they can't hardtops for sale. This one ships to your front door. I see plenty of people with more track oriented builds that this would be suitable for (These tops are commonly used in Spec Miata). As stated in the video and on TCM's website, this is a racing part that has been adapted for street use. Keep in mind that the Lexan window is significantly thinner than the OEM glass, and also easy to scratch and prone to fading/clouding. Some kind of coating can potentially keep it in better shape. This video is to simply help you determine what option is best for you and your car. Cheers

I used fender washers under the nuts to ensure none of the nuts could be pulled through

Greg, miatas are the best for cold climates. They get up to temp extremely quickly and their heaters manage to keep the cabin hot with freezing colds and ripped soft top. Best winterbeater choice ever.

If you want to keep the glass from discoloration I would suggest ceramic coating the glass. I have one on my 99 👍👍👍

Many many thanks for the metric numbers next to the american freedom units ^^

Since I started watching your channel I have spent $10k on my 04" NB. Most of the money has been spent on the MKturbo kit but I have also upgraded the radiator, fans, and did some cosmetic stuff like installing new seat covers on the nasty old seats. I also have purchased the Hard Dog roll bar, and done the regular maintenance. I drive my NB nearly everyday to work. I love my Miata.

Another tip is heat fiberglass before applying weatherstripping. Heating fiberglass will help adhesion.

A 24 minute TCPC video?! Im getting the popcorn!

Who else just vibes to that intro every time

I recommend washers on the back of the bolts for the plexiglass window. That way it can disperse the tension of the bolts on the fiber glass less on the center to prevent cracking.

When I took a road trip to L.A. in my very clean NA, I visited my brother in the downtown area. I was so afraid of the car and/or top getting stolen I had him help me bring the top up to the 7th floor so I could put it in their living room. On top of that I removed the fuel pump relay. Thankfully nobody messed with it. I kind of miss the days when nice NAs weren't worth much and didn't get a lot of attention. I really feel bad for folks that get their tops stolen.

Thank you so much for doing a review on these!!! I was unsure about these tops but now I want one! Thanks Greg!

Glad this video was made because I just got the TCM hardtop last Friday and had no idea what I was doing thanks for the vid!!

Thanks for a great install video Greg! Just used their kit to replace a broken OEM hardtop window, and this install guide was really helpful!

Best channel...thank you for all the time you put into these videos keep at it!

Amazing content Greg. Love the detail. you answer so many questions that I've pondered. You also made me sweat reliving having to replace my soft top after a hail storm... so many hidden screws, rivets, glue, cable threading and nerve racking stretching of the new hood...

Aftermarket hardtops need more developing considering oem top prices are crazy.

To represent the cold climate Miata owners: I drive my NA with an OEM hardtop in Michigan during the winter, and it's gotten down to single digits for several weeks this winter. The hardtop keeps the heat in fine without any insulation, and you can totally drive a Miata in cold weather, hardtop or soft top, and remain comfortable. I only switched to a hardtop for dryness and aesthetic purposes. Great video Greg, but ya misrepresented the snow Miatas!

Thanks for making this video. I had no idea these were even a thing! I have been craving a hard top for the cooler months (and they look sexy) Glad to know this is an option!

Exactly the content I was looking for. Well done!

For the seals between the top and the body I would suggest throwing a coat of silicone grease there, good for the rubber and helps keep the water out.

Thank you Greg for making this video so we can all weigh up the pros and cons of this roof. For a track car where you want to lose as much weight as possible and your not too worried about fitment this is the way to go but for a daily or show car no way. 👍🏽😎

my new favorite car chanel

i refreshed just in time

I feel like TCM should offer these pre-assembled too, that was a lot of work!

My factory hard top has padding and a vinyl headliner from the factory. Also driving miatas in the show is the best, they have heatets.. Keep up the good content and thanks for your time.

I needed this video 2 years ago 😭 Great video nonetheless!

THANK YOU SO MUCH I WANTED A REVIEW FOR THIS HARDTOP AND FINALLY SOMEONE DID IT W THE SAME DISTRUBTOR THANK OYU MIATA DAD AHHHH

Thanks for this. The window stop adjustment looks to be the magic trick to getting a factory hardtop from another car to fit. What would we do without you!

awesome and super helpful video, thanks for posting

I've been debating a TCM top for my NB2 for a while now, glad to see an in depth video on it. I've always wondered how it would affect overall sound and comfort in the cab if you sound deadened the inside of the top with something like Kilmat or Dynamat.

Definitely going this route

Had my treasure coast hardtop for a couple months now , im using the stock seals and rails and ran into the same problem that you did near the end of the vid . My seals leak like crazy on the side windows with the stock seals and ive tried everything. Definitely gonna try those 1 piece as they look like they seal almost 100% better

I woulda liked to see a decibel measurement say at 70 mph vs the oem. That would be a good streetcar question. I think engine noise, road noise, wind could make the tcm too louder.

Thanks greg for convincing me to buy the treasure coast hardtop 👍

Thanks homie was really thinking about doing this test but I have neither a TCM or OEM hardtop... 😂😂😂 Keep it up! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

came out legit!

Yay. Miata Daddy waking me up

Learnt stuff. As always!!

Another thing I feel worth mentioning is lexan "glass" that the fiberglass top comes with will not last. It starts accumulating scratches the second you peel the protective film off and if left outdoors will last 3-4 years before you can barely see out of it, it gets a nasty brown haze and needs to be replaced. I have had lexan hatch and side windows and never recommend them for cars stored outside unless it's a race car and you need the weight savings. Regular glass that comes on the OEM top (that makes it heavier btw) will last forever and is impossible to scratch.

I think I’m sold . Thanks .

I made custom lexan windows for my fastback and you can buff scratches out with a dual action/random orbital buffer and cutting compound-just keep it moving so you don’t heat up one spot and melt the lexan. Also, I clean mine with ammonia-free glass cleaner like the “all natural” organic vinegar-based stuff or Sprayway brand you can buy at the auto parts store. Microfiber cloth only! Anything else will leave scratches.

More than meets the eye.

Love that outro!

Good work my dude...

Loved this creg

Top MX5 content on the web :)

Thanks for covering this. I was curious how much of a job it was to prep the TCM top with the street kit :)

That hardtop doesn’t even have the window pre-drilled? That’s a PITA!

Thanks!

I have literally been considering buying one because of the price of used oem hardtop. Owned a miata for 8 years and I still haven't bought a hard top. 🤦‍♂️ thanks for this video Bro

to be fair you can get brand new hard tops from Mazda still thanks to the roadster refresh program in Japan. you get a glass window w/defrost in black gel coat with everything to install it including frankenbolts and the interior latch striker and replacement interior panel. ~$1800

Hey Greg! I got an idea! For the NB why not get a black bird fab lexan spoiler! I’m sure people would LOVE the in-depth install video of it! It can be confusing lol

That's cleaaan

Interested in seeing the fiberglass trunk lid. I'm planning on ponying up the money on a CarbonMiata ducktail style lid. I use the trunk rather frequently, so I'm worried the fiberglass might deteriorate around the mounting points.

Thanks for another great video! I think I'd go with a white fiberglass to for the red car. Not only would it give contrast, but believe this OG when I say it Will be Much Cooler (temp wise) inside the car and you could prove that with a thermometer (before & after). If you are going to change the trunk why not the hood as well? Isn't it More important to lower the weight in the middle and front of the car, then the rear? I would think the last thing to do for handling is lighten the rear, not the first. Just Sayin' Best Always, Chris Zinn

great top option !!!

I drove my na miata in a foot of snow and it was a beast, and warm.

Finally saw this video 7 months ago kinda perfect when my rear glass window fell off my soft top

I have a racing hard top on my NB I bought it from some random guy and it has solid mounts. I can’t figure out the brand to this day it has a glass window with a defroster. It’s a pain in the ass to take on and off on nice days but I will note the difference in stiffness from the soft top when cornering and going over bumps.

Thanks for telling us about the rivet that holds the back part of the weather stripping on... BUT HOW DO YOU GET IT OUT??!!

13:30, I had those treasure coast seals on my snugtop, they're trash and the adhesive dries out pretty quick. Buying the oem hard top rails and gaskets is fairly expensive but definitely a better solution.

I imagine some dynamat headliner could be applied to lower road noise and heat and to give it a bit of an oem look.

Had my eye on Treasure’s hardtop and... I’ll pay extra for OEM if I can find one.

I'm surprised you didn't mention the lack of frankenstein bolt mounting. Any additional vibrations and noise with those missing?

Miata hardtop looks CLEAN as hell. I cant come together on it though, as the open top is one of the main party pieces of the car. I thought it was a stiff platform. Does a top add rigidity? I get the benefit of not having your head cut off in a rollover, mind you....but i think if i buy a miata that's what im signing up for. For basic aesthetics, I also understand it looks faster, cleaner. I also dont track cars BUT i have a significant amount of respect for and appreciate the guys that do because it results in more thoughtfulness in car engineering. Im not sure if im weird or normal, but I would take a sporty car and enjoy it driving corners fast and the good performance at regular speeds...just better than a minivan or a mom car, and the looks are more iconic and artful.

gonna have to fight you on that end bit real quick, na miata is a phenomenal winter car (source, i daily drove mine in upstate ny last winter)

Another great video! 8:10 ‐ what is that window trim stuff called? 🤔 can't seem to find it anywhere!

I think the red one has earned itself a carbonmiata duck bill trunk lid :)

I wonder if it would be possible to use the soft top latches at least for the front to make it easier to remove.

What about the 1-piece OEM hard top seals? After struggling greatly with new ILM soft top seals, I'm wondering if the OEM 1-piece hard top seals would work on that TCM top?

How about the fastback next 😉

For poking the holes in the weather stripping, just poke them from the inside so you don't need the lines

This video is mega helpful, thanks for making it. As a point of comparison, do you have any experience with the OE-replica tops from VIS or CarbonMiata?

Do you know if the TCM window seals will work with the OEM top?

Hey Greg, when installing the one piece window seal what side of the car does the tapered end go? does it wrap around the front of the top like the factory seal?

I got a dumb question but the window comes with the hardtop right, or do u have to buy the street kit also??? To get the window???

You should make to soon junior into a spec Miata one day.

I'm about to drill into mine and I see the bolts are 5/32 in diameter. Is that the same drill bit diameter you used or did you use a smaller diameter?

Greg how was the rain noise compared to the OEM hardtop to the treasure coast top 🤔

I have an OEM hardtop and i was wondering if I could make the harness that connects up to it. I have both relays for it in the trunk

That top isn't bad. But the inside is rough looking. I'd peel ply that after finding out what kind of resin it was made from. Either polyester, vinyl ester or epoxy. That would give it a smooth finish. Then paint it back on the inside. and I'd look for some of that 1/4" thick sheet black foam with adhesive on one side like the OEM tops have on them. It's too bad they don't have the chrome blocks that go over the Frankenstein bolts. It looks like that's missing on the racing top and needs to be there. The attachment brackets look exactly like the Garage star brackets I got for my OEM top for theft deterrence.

Dude you should go with the Fast Back for the NB! It's super sexy

Is there any noticeable difference in cowl shake between the soft top, OEM hard top and the TCM? The OEM looks stiffer.

You definitely should use some washers. Outside with rubber, inside normal ones.

I love mine.

cool but where do i get glass with defrost for this thing? lol

I have a 1990 na6 miata, does anyone know if a 6 speed from a 1.8 nb will bolt straight in using my old clutch, driveshaft, and ppf?

One question, did you take your soft top off or did you keep them on? I’m only asking because I want to know if there’s any issues with how solid the hardtop holds with the soft top on since it isn’t really bolted up. Thanks.

Would you say you have to really crank those turnbuckles? When I tightened mine the fiberglass was making some very angry noises 😂

i own a corolla but i still watched this with unbreaking attention

Didnt treasure coast miata used to be in Bunnell? Or am I just imagining things?

i am new here and it is awesome

what do you think of fastbacks on miatas?

how does exhaust drone differ between the soft top and the treasure coast top

Love this video Miata Dad! Lol 😂 Question for ya ? I live in FL and have been considering one of these because it might be easier removing and replacing on a whim with FL crazy weather than an oem top . Aside from the hardware, do you think the weight helps significantly with mounting it on the car by yourself?

The transformers thing really got me lmaooo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

That same rare San Diego storm put 2 inches of water in my NB driver foot well :-(.

would you happen to know the dimensions of the box it came in?