Is a wide coil gap better on a Predator 212?

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2 жыл бұрын

Is a wide coil gap better on a Predator 212?
Tested different coil gaps on the ARC billet flywheel on the 212-powered Azusa minibike to see what gap would make the bike run the best.
Azusa minibike playlist - • 212 Ghost VS $500 212 ...
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Parts used -
Sprocket - www.ebay.com/itm/153969185235
.020 ARC billet rod - www.arcracing.com/6256-billet...
ARC billet flywheel - www.arcracing.com/6625-arc-bi...
ARC billet side cover - www.arcracing.com/6058-arc-du...
Head gasket - Predator 212 PRO SERIES head gasket-www.ebay.com/itm/113151830722...
Head stud kit - www.ebay.com/itm/224159946481...
VM22 Mikuni carb kit - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
GX 160 head - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...
Header pipe - www.ebay.com/itm/193709332828...
252 series cam and 22lb springs- www.ebay.com/itm/113730944011...
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@neighborhoodcrime148 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoy every video I hit the like before I even watch it lol 💯💯💯 thank you for sharing

@Black66 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!Thank you for watching!

@jesusmedina4021 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66I replaced the ignition coil assembly and new spark plug on my ct100u since old boot broke off now my bike won’t idle right sounds like it’s idle too high then turns off in 5 seconds after turning it on the could gap was set at .018 idk ifs the correct gap I called Coleman they said they don’t know

@ReverendBow 2 жыл бұрын

As everyone heads to the garage to gap their coils.... Very interesting

@mc4492 2 жыл бұрын

Love the comparison videos 👍🏼Stay safe, ride safe.

@miguelpagansr6128 2 жыл бұрын

Another great and fun video sir, thank you for sharing your knowledge and giving me inspiration.

@carnivorecave 2 жыл бұрын

The coil primary wire to the plug...I have done this on a Hammerhead go kart...From the coil take solid core wire uncoated...One end make a ground connection to the engine block...Then start coiling the solid core wire tight one layer to about one inch from the end of plug...Then wrap insulation tape or elec. tape to cover exposed wire...When I first did this the spark was much more intense than the normal spark...Brighter, defined, more horse power...This simple mod may make a difference...Try it and see if it works then do a video on it...

@kylesyx8432 Жыл бұрын

How is it , every question I’ve needed answered you have a video for ! 👍❤I love it !!

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for watching the videos!

@gloriabauer2392 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know what you are doing but I like your trial runs through the desert...lol

@mindovermatter3988 2 жыл бұрын

I've noticed this before on my 225 when I had set it at .30 to .35 thou on the coil Gap, I opened it up to .75 thou & that's solved all my high RPM breaking up issues

@baldbutton1983 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, was wondering, have you done any videos on timing yet?

@muttsworld3522 2 жыл бұрын

Another great instructional video bro. You should find you an old greyhound motor and compare it against the predator. I had a greyhound given to me and got it running and now it's on my doodlebug holding up strong

@Strict30 2 жыл бұрын

Good stuff brotha

@milesallen5590 2 жыл бұрын

To me it seemed like the closer the gap the more acceleration you had.

@mitchellgrenier5619 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your information on the coil Gap I had good luck and bad luck

@Elijahhuckaby 2 жыл бұрын

Love it man

@mikesbarn1858 2 жыл бұрын

That was fascinating. Thanks.

@davidmalone8565 2 жыл бұрын

Diesel set up or turbo experiment please!!! Great video as per usual sir!!!

@sammyhien9338 Жыл бұрын

Yes Master, now I have to go to garage and play with coil gap, until I get top results😅.

@Xclusively_Average 2 жыл бұрын

How do you fix the vibration when i ride it vibrates so much

@tonyalto1014 2 жыл бұрын

Getting the coil further away, causes less magnetig drag on the flywheel. .080" is probably max distance or close to it, before you lose too much spark energy. Pretty cool experiment! Thanks for running that test!

@slowmissouri205 Жыл бұрын

The magnetic drag factor makes sense when you put it like that

@BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas 2 жыл бұрын

Good info video

@Asshatter07 2 ай бұрын

where did you get that clear cover that goes over the flywheel that thing is awesome

@anthonyh.1512 2 жыл бұрын

What gear ratio are you using on this bike to make it go that speed?

@rykerinthewild1155 Жыл бұрын

Dumb question, but it's .060 inch right? Like on my feeler gauges I'd be the inches part I'm looking at right?

@evilbeetlekustomscreations4965 2 жыл бұрын

How do I remove the old valve guides on my Flathead Briggs & Stratton and put in the new valve guides I got a 10 over alcohol breathing flat head at the valve guides are toast and is there a way for me to regrind the seats without having the tool using sandpaper?

@tonyalto1014 2 жыл бұрын

Not really man. You need a good solid fitting pilot and a trued grinding wheel on an arbor or a carbide cutter. Good news is, you can buy a small engine cutter set for only 60 bucks nowadays. They have the pilots, and 45 degree seat cutter. Plus they come with 30 and 60 degree cutters for narrowing/moving the actual sealing area on the seat. Make your money back by doing 3 angle valve jobs for your buddies. :)

@Octagen69 6 ай бұрын

I’m going to try this on my 236cc Tillotson road course kart. Any top speed gain will be a great advantage.

@mitchellgrenier5619 Жыл бұрын

Continue the big gap started making a short out to the ground terminal on the coil did you have any experience like that

@nickhodgson5219 5 ай бұрын

You ever had issues with the slipstream coil gap to close? Under .05 would it give no spark? I’m having issues with spark on my 200 hisun. Wondering if I burned my coil setting to close. I didn’t realize they needed that gap I had set mine at .035 I get spark occasionally but if I gap it that far no I get nothing. Assuming coil is bad now?

@yourdogtrainer365 Жыл бұрын

What is the GPS app you are using for your testing?

@xALFx13 11 ай бұрын

Maybe you can help me i have a tillotson 212 and when i first start it it takes a few cranks when i start running it say around the block then come back turn it off. Then wait a minute or so and try and turn it back on it will not start even when i have choke on. Could it be timing if any or gap between ignition coil. But when i finally get it running again it will sometimes bog out when i give it gas. Hopefully you can help. Love your videos too.

@GoodFellasMiniBikez-GFMB Жыл бұрын

This video is great I’ve been really contemplating on if the stock coil is as good as a OEM GX 200 coil or a upgraded hot coil?

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Thanks ! I have a video with a hot coil coming out .

@GoodFellasMiniBikez-GFMB Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 definitely needed thanks!

@Spookylator20 Жыл бұрын

So for a billet internal build 60 is ok? My all billet but nothing crazy it’s just a stronger cruiser

@bigpoppa2442 Жыл бұрын

hey! where can i find that fuel tank? i can’t find a nice one that mounts to the stock tank mounts

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I actually made this tank out of a car overflow tank. I will have to do a video on it. Thanks for watching!

@mini0448 2 жыл бұрын

Alright so if I wanna get the best cam for under 60$ what would it be or should I keep stock cam and go ratio rockers ?? I dunno there's so many options

@Black66 2 жыл бұрын

I would say a 265 cam with 22lb springs is a good choice for around $60

@NVScrapper 2 жыл бұрын

🤟💯Good video, I like this Isuzu bike. Interesting comparison!

@houseoffire72 2 жыл бұрын

Always a plus side...🤣🤣🤣 Excellent video..!

@Black66 2 жыл бұрын

YES! LOL

@houseoffire72 2 жыл бұрын

@@Black66 Good way of thinking 😁 I have an idea for you... With all the testing of the different combinations of parts I think it would be a super cool idea to do a full blown "Ultimate" mini bike build starting from scratch with a goal of 0-30 less than 3 secs & a top speed of 75+... Could it be done..? I think you could do it man..?

@Black66 2 жыл бұрын

@@houseoffire72 Yes! It could be done. Thats a good idea! I could use it as a giveaway bike!

@houseoffire72 2 жыл бұрын

@@Black66 Sounds awesome hope to see it happen.

@jeffreyhill3960 2 ай бұрын

Interesting, had no idea what would happen…..

@randydanger7992 10 ай бұрын

I just watched a video saying the new ghost engines are rpm limited by the coil. The video said it's printed on the coil itself. I have a preditor 212 hemi. I am not sure it's true or just a ghost thing. Do you have any coil recommendations or do you run a stock coil. I was just going to upgrade my plug wire not the whole coil. 7mm 0 ohm wire solid copper core and lower profile boot. Does it matter in your opinion. If wider gap .080 made a difference this might . Thanks!

@randydanger7992 10 ай бұрын

Also I like that fuel tank you have ! Did you modify it to mount on your front tank mounts ? Do you mind sharing where you got it from 🙏

@Black66 10 ай бұрын

Yes it is true. Watch this video on the ghost coil and flywheel swap . Also check out the Ghost playlist for many videos with the Ghost kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otNmrbenzbCsg58.html

@albertpeterson7134 2 жыл бұрын

Black66. There is no such thing as to many mini bikes🤣🤣

@giffy5775 Жыл бұрын

Didn't say which fuel or timing key. I believe that flywheel is timed for methanol with a straight key. If it's on gas the timing would be too high so more gap would retard the timing for more speed. ARC has factory specs for timing and coil gap that are pretty much right on. Also, I would get a pair of racing gloves and shoes that cover your ankle.

@charlotteblack4693 2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@ChristopherJones16 Жыл бұрын

03:19 "oh here comes my new Mikuni carb getting dropped off by Amazon Drone Mail."

@tbf174 2 жыл бұрын

Should’ve tested the 0-30, so we get “quick” answers

@shanewright4260 2 ай бұрын

😂

@srcobra50 2 жыл бұрын

Seemed it struggled a bit from 57-60 when it was set to 30 thousands but looked a little stronger from 0-20. Cool video 👍🏽 Quick question. I have a 79cc predator that couldn’t run WOT without choke. Tried 2 new stock carburetors and a pz19 carburetor and even jetted the 19mm but still had the same problem. Any idea what is causing that? It just bogs and dies when given full throttle without choke

@kentsugden6865 2 жыл бұрын

Things I'd pay attention to first: good fuel, good carb gasket seal, clean air filter, correct spark plug gap, good contact with spark plug boot, fuel lines of appropriate size, enough height difference that fuel makes it to the engine, proper flywheel/coil gap. If none of that works, you might have gotten a lemon or it's worn out enough that it doesn't have good compression. I'm not a mechanic though, so maybe you'll get some better ideas from others

@kentsugden6865 2 жыл бұрын

That's all the surface-level stuff I can think of. I'm assuming the engine hasn't suffered any catastrophic damage from running without oil or something. I hate to waste a salvageable engine, but those 79's are cheap enough that it might save you some grief to just get a new one.

@srcobra50 2 жыл бұрын

@@kentsugden6865 thanks a lot for the help. Il look into that stuff and hopefully figure it out.

@tyler9463 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure if you're carburetor has a air/fuel adjustment screw but I'd check there and see if that helps

@tyler9463 2 жыл бұрын

Also depending on what elevation you live in you may not have the correct jet for your air density, unlikely tho

@prisonbreak1166 8 ай бұрын

How do you know if your predator is a hemi or not? I bought a fly wheel and now i fear it won't fit the shaft

@D--5 6 ай бұрын

One easy way to tell is the hemi has a cast aluminum squarish valve cover and the non-hemi has an octagonal stamped steel valve cover like a stop sign

@predator_boiz336 Жыл бұрын

So for a basic build, what coil gap do you ideally stay around?

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

About .060 with the ARC billet ...on a basic build 😀👍

@predator_boiz336 Жыл бұрын

@@Black66 what about something simple like a just a carb, pipe, jet, govenor removal, around .040?

@christopherflannery1770 Жыл бұрын

What if you went with 100 thousandths?

@Spacecruizer203 2 жыл бұрын

she wants more mo mo mo mo moeeee !!! anything for more jiggAwatts give her the Juice shes a Beast!!!100% Thanks for taking it to the MAX for us showing wat these lil monsters can do

@Llyduramax 2 жыл бұрын

What happened to your hand jw great vids!

@Black66 2 жыл бұрын

I can't remeber. I did this video a few months back.

@Spacecruizer203 2 жыл бұрын

id keep her at 60 just for heat and friction purposes lol i wonder if my ducar pvL flywheel will like the 80

@Black66 2 жыл бұрын

I'm betting it doesn't like 80

@Strict30 2 жыл бұрын

My hot coil ask for .65

@f250ford1975 Жыл бұрын

What jet?

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

Check out the Azusa bike playlist for many different part combos with this bike. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbR6lamSqsvHgYE.html

@codycannon363 Жыл бұрын

Link for the gas tank

@Black66 Жыл бұрын

I made the gas tank out of a car over flow tank

@bradcarpenter2396 2 жыл бұрын

I know of a mini bike that will do 100mph checkout VOLT mini bikes....

@mrbottomfeeder 2 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥👍👍😎😎

@Gadgegza 2 жыл бұрын

how do you get the overlay of speedometer in your videos ?

@Black66 2 жыл бұрын

It is in the camera software. Thanks for watching the videos!

@Gadgegza 2 жыл бұрын

@@Black66 big fan. you’re a huge help. what camera do you use ?

@Spookylator20 Жыл бұрын

@@GadgegzaGoPros come with it

@johnk6346 2 жыл бұрын

Wow 😆

@jerminedombrigues7714 2 жыл бұрын

I want one of that Sir🙋🇵🇭 Piliphines

@MRD0889 7 ай бұрын

Man i love this hobbie lol. Performance is Performance man

@WyFoster 2 жыл бұрын

I like about .060

@anonymousproductions1792 2 жыл бұрын

Definantly sounded weaker with smaller coil gap and sounded rough at idle

@jojojeep1 2 жыл бұрын

You better check your side, you’re leaking oil, that’s exactly how I blew my motor it only had two maybe three hours on it

@jojojeep1 2 жыл бұрын

@Elijah’s MiniBikes Unfortunately it was a little too late for me, I had three hours minimum on my totally built 212 it end up costing me a new piston new rings and new bearings other than that everything was fine, she’s back together running great I don’t know why but I lost 2 miles an hour on the top end may because the motor is not as loose as the other one I don’t know at this point I don’t care ha ha ha ha

@jojojeep1 2 жыл бұрын

@Elijah’s MiniBikes I do now my brother, I have a Torque wrench right next to it set at 18 pounds, how much older than you think I have all the Time in the world to go over this thing before I use it

@walkertongdee Ай бұрын

Dude, you are not black or 66!

@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx 7 күн бұрын

so he can only have his channel name accurate to his physical attributes? "senior bald man with shades" plus he wud have to change the channel name every time he has shades on in the video to be accurate.