yes

sure

together, we are tower defense simulator

What if engi and accel? Every gamemode? With no medic?

Btw engineer got nerf lol

Below about to nerf brawler: 😈

@@Calamity_666 me with brawler and sledger watching the war:

​Necromancer laugh loudly

@@namenonamex-sd3dvnecro rn is really bad the bug makes it so the skeletons can’t spawn on max level

Me watching the war with ranger who is like god Becuase he can pop lead balloons which none of the to can beat lol

he still is, in my heart✊😔

He still the best ( in case of solo )

And Commando

hi, hes best dps tower

Wym?

Um acktualy🤓☝️ Persuit is also pretty good if you can't afford accel or engi But his counter is a frickin Hidden with 10 hp💀

​@LowtierFellNOW until the pursuit rework comes out which the devs said they would make

​@@LowtierFellNOWpursuit when an enemy slightly faster than normal appears:

@@LowtierFellNOW error slap

same

@@tdspro1 same 2

Same 3 I mean both r superior and it's the only attacking towers I'll ever use ngl (except for special gamemodes)

Engineer can also detect flying while accel can't and can be used in early game unlike accel

People always overrating accel cuz he have better late game potential, but after engineer got buff, the debate is over

@@Dimas-gt9pc And people still like to debate cuz they are accel fanboys

@@Instinct23-uf1rk they ruined the entire concept of accel it was based off the phaser from tb and was supposed to be a boss killer and now it's just a normal dps tower

@@kittyface7107 Exactly, It was based off phaser from tb and because of that People called it a copy of it. Plus Accel is better than old accel tbh. It's only that other towers are much better than they used to be now

I like the part when it said:

What is VI 💀

⁠@@klaudiarecendiz5662bro are you dumb?? get outta preschool, VI means 6 in roman numerals LOLLLL 💀💀

i feel bad for you ​@@klaudiarecendiz5662

couple fight moments

​@@klaudiarecendiz5662 arabic numeral for 6

glad u enjoyed it :)

#wplanes

I don't thing you is tds nerd, engineer is cheaper than accel at all levels and has higher dps, level 5 engineer and level 4 accel have same price but engineer have 20+ more dps that accel, so engineer is also better that accel to kill tanky enemy, and engi also have 70 dps splash at max level and very good to kill swarm, max level engi is cheaper that accel but have 170 dps more that accel with splash, better targeting and stun immunity. All engineer level value is better that every accel level value and that's not even close

@@Dimas-gt9pc no it depends on damage plus firerate and depend on the enemy speed and hp, 2 level 3 accel can do better than level 5 engi and engi can leak more than the 2 accels bc one accel focus first while the other focus on the tanky enemy. But demoman is better bc its very cheap and counters crowds and tanky enemies

@@Dimas-gt9pc and engineer takes time to build a new sentry so it delays her dps

​​@@kokosanssmo31 "two level 3 accelerator does better than a level 5 engineer" this is so wrong lmao a level 5 engineer have the same price yet does more dps than that of 2 lvl 3 accels. Your targetting logic doesn't work because you're splitting the DPS in half, which makes no sense because it does basically nothing. For 21k and in early game you'd be better off with engis than accel due to his annoying chargeup and a low 600 damage cap (1200 for two accels). "Engineer takes time to build her sentries so it delays her DPS" which have low significance. The issue with engi is not her building time but her warmachines, only disappearing and reappearing one by one for 3 seconds with charge up. 4 WMS can go a long way, each lasting a minute and having different lifespan, the DPS loss is insignificant comparing to accel's chargeup. Also, engineer have better value since 6 unbuffed maxxed engineer does better than 8 unbuffed accelerators. Even with buffs accelerator only does better for 110 dps (comms + MB), which is miniscule. You can just bring them both, so it solves everything.

@@isfrenchjei focusing on wikipedia again? people always does this. Its not entirely correct because even if the dps is much more than the other tower, it depends on how fast and tanky the enemy is and how fast and many damage the tower can do. level 5 Engineer has only 35 damage even with its Sentry it has only 50 damage in total which the fallen has 180 health which could make a struggle against fallens, because there is 4 of them and having a high health with fast speed would be a big problem if you are using Engineer. if you are using 2 level 3 Accelerators there would be 40 damage which is 10 more than level 4 and it costs 100 less than level 4 Accel, which can counter fallens very easily due to Accelerator's fast firerate and decent damage. This can also work on the Giant boss very well using the Accelerator as Engineer needs 140 scrap in total to place down a minigun sentry which barely does any damage, and the two level 3 Accelerators which has 40 damage would do way better because of its fast firerate and decent amount of damage. Not about DPS, it is about the damage and firerate and depending on the enemy's speed and health. The second one I agree because you are comparing the max level Engineer which would rapidly spawn a war machine sentry at late game and the Accelerator which would delay lots of DPS due to its overcharge and at that point Engineer would have more dps BUT I am talking about 2 level 3 Accels vs 1 level 5 Engi, which has a similar price only for 2 level 3 accel is 100 dollars cheaper (there is no difference). 2 level 3 Accels would do a better performance than the level 5 Engineer which I have already explained in the first paragraph. The Accelerator and Engineer does insanely horrible alone because of how expensive it is and how it does not counter that much things (especially in early game) like the Engineer can't counter the hiddens that well in wave 13 and 15 and the Accelerator being so expensive. One embarrassing thing about these two hardcore towers that shreds bosses, breakers can easily counter them. There is a reason why mortar and demoman mostly exists (same for MB's insane AoE) if you are saying Engineer would do good alone bc it has level 6 no problemo with war machine sentry's crowd control right? good luck getting it without farm bro because that 54k is not going to catch up with breaker4s 💀

tysm!!

@@marbeans_naw, bro fix this video it’s so cap 😭😭😭

@@CalebMartin-cb8oxwdym?

​@@CalebMartin-cb8oxdawg.

IN ENGI-HER WE TRUST 🗣🔥

shields laughing in the backgorund*

@@kennyminnekens9337 stomp spam:

@@boxerthatisntcool stomp spam also affects accel greatly

@@VVooshbait affects engineer a lot more since if the shield pops and there’s a 2nd stomp the turret gets grilled

​@@boxerthatisntcool That really isn't possible for a boss to do that since Engineer would get unstunned before another stomp happens (Unless a boss like Fallen King does his sword spin attack and stomps but that's rare)

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Jit you tweakin you know it’s mili base humvee

nobody uses flags like that anymore, its better to use the other ones just for like support and stuff

​@@NoahCalhoun-vo8teif u have a bunch of gold and stuff accelerator is better But if you don't grind tds better to use engi For maximum chaos why not use both

His max dps not get nerf, only the price has increased slightly

Same fr

me also taking note that engi has splash damage and can detect flying and is cheaper

Engineers are also people who make accelerator weapons btw, so this makes sense

Explosions. Also accelerator doesn't have a death beam. It's most likely a laser beam in which we actually have nowadays. The Devs never confirmed that the accelerator to be more advanced than today's tech anywhere

YEAHH

Max boosted accel is 652 dps but max boosted engi is 611 because only engi herself can be buffed.

Actually, Accel is not completely affected by the buff cuz his charge and charge up, accel with mercenary base+commander+all flag have 502,09 dps Meanwhile engineer with mercenary+commander+all flag have 610,71 dps

@@Dimas-gt9pc ur def on something

6 engineer with commander still have more dps that 8 accel with commander

Actually the necromancer only has 466 dps if you count 7 maximum targets

Engineer sentry have hidden detection too

At lvl 4 tho which is expensive so not good for hidden bosses

@@aggelosag4982 it have same price as level 4 accel with 20 more dps

its basically is 2 times better,take a look at dps in fandom wiki

math is not mathing

Never let this man suggest any type of balance changes 😭.

@@level1318 AHEM, at least I'm only talking about buffs, you should only say that if I talk about NERFS! Also, Engineer needs Pierce, almost always the place where Engineer is put, it would be good for Pierce.

It's also not about the dps, its about the players who are lazy to grind for Engineer! If Engineer gets one more buff, I'm sure people wouldn't feel lazy to grind for it.

😔

merc cant buff accel

@@iradafirst another example of dumbass

Wth is this logic ☠️

engineer has splash so engi better

Nah engi is just better in everything lol

@@A_local_pyro a non max engi by would die on that shadow boss wave and the accel wouldn't

@@niceuuuuuu sentry can get hidden detec before max lol, engineer have 6 level, level 5 sentry have same price as level 4 accel and have 20 more dps

Paintballer>>>>>>>

They both don’t touch grass

Tds players never touch grass

wait wait engineer not need any buffs so you can have more towers in your loadout

Even with commander it still does more dps

It's also much cheaper so it's better for non-solo

What a bad thing that engineer have?

@@Dimas-gt9pc overprice at shop and full hidden detection at level 5 on sentry.

Maybe bc engineer is also person that make accel weapon

@@Dimas-gt9pc but still its *P L A S M A*