Βρε κορίτσι πως χρησιμοποιείς την αρμπουτιν? Αν μπορείς απάντησε μου. Σε ευχαριστώ. @Maria Bousoulegka

@@Yotakirocky100 τι εννοείς; Από The ordinary, πρώτο σερουμ μετά το πρωινό πλύσιμο, 3 σταγόνες σε όλο το πρόσωπο. Ταιριάζει με όλα τα προϊόντα χωρίς πρόβλημα.

Yes, but the slight colour change seems to be not an issue; they tested it, and there was only one formulation stored over 40 degrees that had these issues(hydroquinone formed in a higher amount) still; the period was narrow, and since often the products are much older, I am very cautious here.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial i totally agree. The Golen Rule of Socrates was .. balance

Mine became gray at the end and I threw it away

Well, the thing is that it does not have to happen, but people are unaware of it when using Alpha Arbutin and that there may be some additional instructions needed or even regulations to not "bleach" the skin. So if you got it from your doctor and use it as described, you should not encounter any issues.

Hello again; well, according to that paper, it is not necessarily an issue but may happen under certain conditions. So we do not know it yet, but if you are in Australia, and if it is hot in your place, it certainly could happen, and I think not really worth the risk.

How are you 🤔?

Yes, that's what I meant. It always happens in your area. Where did you buy it? 🤔

Mir ist immer wieder aufgefallen, dass die Leute Probleme mit Alpha Arbutin hatten und anfangs dachte ich, dass es an Vitamin C liegen würde, weil es meisten bei dem Ordinary Produkt "Ascorbic Acid und Alpha Arbutin" auftrat. Ich dachte, dass das Vitamin C oxidiert und daher sich braun färbt auf der haut. Aber als ich dieses Dokument vor kurzem gesehen habe, dachte ich mir, dass das eventuell zusammenhängen könnte mit Alpha Arbutin. Was mir auch aufgefallen ist, ist, dass es an der Hitze liegt obwohl das Dokument nur minimal Aufschluss gibt was passiert bei solchen extrem heißen Temperaturen welche in den Containers und in Afrika und Asien oder im Allgemeinen in den Tropen gegeben sind. Mit Luftfracht wird es wohl keine oder nur wenige Probleme geben.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Du hättest Molekuöarbiologin werden sollen oder investigative Journalistin. Den analytischen Verstand dafür hast Du ja schon 🌹🌹

@@ChristianHutyra Haha, Danke 🙏

Thank you so much 🙂

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Well, depending on the pigmentation, you only have one option, which is laser treatment. Therefore, I would suggest visiting a doctor in your area. If it's only dark spots, you could try Vitamin C, Niacinamide, or Retinol/Retinoids.

In that case, I recommend consulting your doctor. Certain treatments should not be combined with Accutane, so it would be wise to give your doctor a call. ;)

well they do not mention "orange" in that paper, but a slight yellow hue is not an issue. (according to them) Still, I am questioning it a lot. We need further studies on it. I decided not to use it anymore before we had more data. What you could do is bring it to a laboratory to analyse it; that would be cool 😉

Hey! :) Yes, you can give it a try. Keep the routine simple: cleanser, serum, and (if needed) moisturizer-that's it. However, the darkness around your mouth could also be an indication of consuming too many sugary things, like sodas, cookies, ice cream-anything that contains added sugar-or refined wheat products like bread, naan, pizza, pasta, etc.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Thankyou so much for reply❤️. Yes, I used to consume a lot of sugar but now I'm trying to keep my cravings in control. One more thing I want to ask should I use it both in the day and night or just one time??

@@Sinhee_ii This depends on what works best for you and your skin. However, you can use it twice a day.

You're the best skincare influencer ever🎀🥺. Never got this early reply ever, this video is one year old still you replied. Thankyou so much❤️❤️❤️😭

Yes, this can work. Use Alpha Arbutin and Azelaic Acid in the morning, and Vitamin C and Retinol in the evening, but on different days.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you

Yes, if the pigmentation has disappeared, then there is no longer any need to use it.

And have you had any issues? 🤔

If you live in a hot climate with very high temperatures (30-40 Celsius), no. And I do not use it anymore. I am now constantly thinking about it 😕 Edit: and the colour seems to be no indicator for it.

well, it could be if you are using Alpha Arbutin daily. 😕 When did it happen?

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Hi! it started two or three years ago with two spots in the center of the cheeks. Now that i have a tan after vacation, (never sunbathe in my life) i always look for shade, sun is everywhere in Greece, there is no need extra, it has spread all over my cheek, it's really sad. I have used Clinique Vit C, now Vit C from The Inkey list. The Inkey List Alpha Arbutin and in winter some months Vitamin A. Sunscreen Clinique body sunscreen spf 40 same ingredients with the face cream!: 365 days a year

​ @Amalia Vet When did you start using Alpha Arbutin? If those dark patches already appeared before you even used Alpha Arbutin, it's something else like sun-damaged skin or melasma.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Could I use Alpha Arbutin before they even appear? Thank you for your time. I think it is a good theme for your next video!

No, you cannot do that, since they help to reduce melanin in the skin or "block" it. But what about visiting a local doctor? 🤔

yes, where are you from?

Hmm, there is a lot that needs to be changed. Because I think you do not understand the different products/ingredients well enough, if you tell me what you want to achieve or your overall skin concerns, I can help you more.

​@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Dry Skin, Hyperpigmentation, and Anti-aging

​@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Just to be clear, I use a Salicylic Acid cleanser (3x/wk) and mask (1x/wl) to remove sebaceous filaments. I don't use it every day because I do have dry skin, but I don't necessarily have sensitive skin. The hyaluronic acid serum helps me stay extra hydrated. I utilize peptides for the anti-aging properties, but I avoid using matrixyl in the morning because of the acids. I use an AHA serum and moisturizer with niacinamide to treat hyperpigmentation. I double cleanse at night because I believe the sunscreen is more effectively removed. Since I've already removed the majority of the sunscreen and follow this routine up with tret, I use a super gentle cleanser. Because tretinoin tends to be too potent on my neck, I use retinol instead. I also mix another serum with the retinol to dilute it. I don't get irritated by the small amount of matrixyl in the nighttime eye cream that I use. I apply my tret once the moisturizer has had time to dry. That is basically my thought process.

@@shivamsrivastava6312 Okay, well, that makes a difference. 🫣 But I am unsure if you really need that many products. But I mean, if it works well for you, then there is no need to change anything! :)

Well it's something to keep in mind... and if you have issues, then you know where it is coming from. And yes, you can use it together with Niacinamide. And layering it in any order.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Thank you so much So i can use it right? Thank you for ur reply Your amazing 🥰 Much love to you 🥰

@@amnahussain5448 I do not use it anymore because of these concerns, but mine has already changed colour to really dark orange. Even though I think it is not an issue (according to the paper, but who knows 🤷‍♀), I am always concerned now that I have read the paper. I am waiting for more information.

The climate is a significant factor to consider, as well as the products you used in combination 🤔 So, can you list the products you used? And also, what goals are you trying to achieve? 🤔

Hey! :) In what sense has it made your skin more sensitive?

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial I go under the sun after applying spf 50+ PA++++ and feel certain areas of my cheeks being inflamed. My routine is bare minimum and I was shocked when it happened

@@moumitareads3738 Have you changed your sunscreen or only added Alpha Arbutin and Niacinamide to your routine?

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial No I started my routine with Niacinamide 5% that had 2% Alpha A. Then sunscreen and moisturizer. I also use Lactic acid once in a week.

@@moumitareads3738 Since when are you using your treatment and exfoliant and since when are you using sunscreen and moisturizer?

Unfortunately, we do not have the answer to that question since nobody has ever tested it. 😒

Well according to the video it could be 😉 More research is needed!

Hey! :) What's the cause of your uneven skin tone around your mouth? Dryness? In that case, I recommend keeping the area well hydrated. Since when do you experience it?

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial The brownness around my mouth is caused by my teenage years, about ten years ago. One day I scrubbed that area to get out the blackheads out of ignorance of me, and since that day that area turned blue and took on the color of the tan to this day.

@@imaneboutaib1795 So, it’s a scar? If it's already that old, I'm not sure if topical over-the-counter products can do that much about it. You may have a chance with an exfoliant. However, I recommend seeing a dermatologist for it :)

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thanks you Mélissa you are great , i follow you from Algeria , our country is very nice i invit you to visite it

@@imaneboutaib1795 I was already in that area when I was a bit younger in Morocco. I really liked the weather there and the old markets. 🙃 But thank you.

If the pigmentation has disappeared, then there is no longer any need to use it.

While there's no strict guideline mandating the discontinuation of alpha arbutin after three months, it's always wise to monitor your skin's response. As for the return of hyperpigmentation, it largely depends on its cause. For instance, if sun damage caused it and you've managed to fade it, by consistently protecting your skin with sunscreen and avoiding excessive sun exposure, it shouldn't reappear.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial i think my hyperpigmentation is mostly due to PIH hence considering alpha arbutin. also what do you think if i cycle between 5% niacinamide serum and the Niacinamide and alpha arbutin combined serum ? will this give better results or should i take the chance and use alpha arbutin long term?

@@bigfatcat4624 I'm not sure. You'll need to test it to see if it benefits your skin. If you do try it and happen to remember our conversation, feel free to share your experience. It would be insightful for both me and others to learn about the results.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial yeah sure I would thanks :)

What were your results? Were there any side effects?

Where did you hear this? But Alpha Arbutin is not a good option; a retinol/retinoid or AHA or a Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid, ideally water-based) will work best. But also remember these spots will naturally fade over time; it may take several months, depending on your genetics. So the best you can do is protect it from sun rays.

Which trannexmic acid u use

@@nuriffatjahan I don't use tranexamic acid now, I don't know from what reason it started to broke me out more and made my skin sensitive. So I switched to simple skincare routine like using 5 percent niacinamide serum , soothing moisturizer (klairs midnight ) when my skin healed , I slowly started to fade my dark marks using alpha arbutin and azelaic acid. Alpha arbutin ( minimalist) you can use ordinary if your country doesn't have minimalist and ordinary azleiac acid.

No, it can happen at any time. But I just noticed that people from Asia and Africa often had these issues, and when I asked them, they always lived in a very hot environment and primarily bought it from resellers. So I guess that these resellers stored it incorrectly or that it was stored wrongly in these hot shipping containers on the sea or land so that the reseller did not even know it. And that may influence the problem even more.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial yes I understood this part. But me, I live in Canada... So I'm assuming I'm ok. But, I was wondering if the product is not good anymore 3 months after I opened the bottle? Thanks for answering 😘

​@@AnnieIsaLau Well, according to the paper, it seems to be no issue. But temperature-wise, yes, Canada is very cold, and you usually do not have any issues with it 😉 But again, the skin itself may transfer it into hydroquinone.

Kojic Acid, Vitamin C or a Retinol/Retinoid 😃 Or are you looking for a specific brand/product? 🤔

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial not a specific brand but a effective and safe product to lighten the skin on my face and neck as it’s 2/3 shades darker then the rest of my body. I already use spf 50 and tried most vitamin c serum but none of them got me the results I’m looking for is their any product you can recommend please?

@@jaallb2864 Well, regularly exfoliating your skin can help remove dead skin cells and lighten it over time. You can use a gentle scrub or a chemical exfoliant such as alpha-hydroxy acid (AHA) or beta-hydroxy acid (BHA). And to prevent further tanning, protecting your skin from the sun is essential. Wear a hat and sunglasses, seek shade when possible, and use a broad-spectrum sunscreen with an SPF of at least 50+. And you need to be patient; this will take several months or even years. The best you can do is avoid the sun whenever you can!

According to the paper, it may turn into hydroquinone, although only one formulation had it when stored at high temperatures. (which is/was likely not the case for your Alpha Arbutin) "At 40 degrees Celsius, the visual impact was dependent on the initial pH. alpha-arbutin recovery was minimum 97.1% for all samples. Hydroquinone content in all samples at t0 and after 3 months of storage at the different conditions was below 3 ppm, except for one sample at pH 3.5. This initially at pH 3.5, contained 22.7 ppm hydroquinone after 3 months of storage at 40 degrees Celsius. The alpha-arbutin recovery in the later sample was 100%." Also, the formulations that the Ordinary offer have a higher pH; therefore, it may not matter. And The Ordinary itself says the following: „We are aware of the potential colour changes of our Alpha Arbutin product. This is a natural occurrence, where certain ingredients in the product can change colour when exposed to sunlight or increased temperature. Testing has shown that the efficacy and safety profile of the active ingredient remains stable.“ Still not sure under what condition they tested it, and there is no research on this yet. But likely not an issue for The Ordinary formulation if stored at "normal" room temperature without direct sunlight/daylight.

It looks like it does, but according to them, this is reversible.

So is it safe to use in high temperature countries?

Kindly let me know

we don't know 😞

Can u tell me other ingredients that help in inhibition of melanin

Well, nobody really knows this, and it needs more tests and research to determine if it is safe to use and when the conversion into hydroquinone occurs. So, we'll see. However, the best option would likely be a retinoid, such as Adapalene 0.1% or Tretinoin 0.025%.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you so much Melissa.. I have not seen a kind heart youtuber like u... Love you from India... You have no ego no attitude for responding a question..

@@ayeshasiddiqua577 I am happy to help and thank you

if it contains alpha arbutin, it likely has the same issues.

It depends on the hyperpigmentation. So what kind do you have? Dark spots?

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial age spots, similar to freckles, and PIH, face and hands,

@@ah.l I recommend trying a Retinol/Retinal or Retinoid treatment in the evening and protecting your skin with sunscreen during the day if you have sun exposure.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial great!, thank you.

and can it be a dangerous thing that its showing me great results in just less than 2 weeks? for how long should i use it? currently i m using it during night time and that too just 2 drops for the whole face and no damage sign. should i start using it as a spot treatment? will it God forbid do any damage to the skin after 1 month use?

It would indeed be beneficial to have more studies on this topic, so I can't say definitively. There's no evidence to suggest whether using it for more than three months is positive or negative since it hasn't been tested in that duration. However, I wouldn't recommend using these treatments continuously for many months or even years. Typically, treatment periods last between 3-6 months for most of them. That's the duration I would personally adhere to before taking a break. While there are always concerns, if you've found the treatment effective in fading a spot or notice significant improvement, I'd suggest using it for that recommended period and then stopping. That's my usual approach.

​@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial how long that break should be after 3 months usage or should i never use it again in life?

@@arooshazahid4306 Well, I usually give it just a few days, sometimes even a few weeks. But I mean, if it doesn't come back - which it shouldn't if you take better care of your skin - then you won't need to use it anymore. :)

thanks alot for assisting! there are so many beauty experts whom people try to reach to but they cant get their response but you really are making it easy for your viewers! keep up the good work!

No, it does not have to happen. But it is a risk, and I wanted to point it out since I regularly have people claiming that they had these brown patches/stains on the skin while using such a product or even white patches.

Is it orange or light yellow? 🤔

Orange

@@farhanafmujumder2961 I just checked my older bottle, and it also has this orange-brown colour now. As I wrote in another comment, I do not use it anymore because of this paper. And I am avoiding any serum with Alpha Arbutin until further documents are available.

What's that? I have never heard of it.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial, an injectable treatment with acid hialuronic.. That promotes elasticity, collagen production, hidration...

@@florbelaribeiro3992 oh I do not know anything about that sorry

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial if you find something, please make a video 😊

@@florbelaribeiro3992 maybe at some point in time yes ;)

I think that nobody really knows or wants to look deeper into it. However, The Ordinary claims that it is still safe to use 😉.

Are you using any other ingredients along with it, or just that serum? If you suspect that it causes discoloration, I would recommend stopping its use for a while. From what I have seen and read, this is likely only temporary and should disappear after a while.

im using ordinary alpha arbutin 2% ascorbic acid 8% no other active ingredient. i just use this after face wash from 2 days ive been using moisturizer after it

can i use it after some months when weather would be cool or will it be expired?

@@Eeman223 Are you using it in the morning, and do you use sunscreen during the daytime? Also, how much do you apply? 🤔

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial i use at night time about five to six drops . my skin is getting better but from some areas of my face like i think its doing its work but in some areas . and I don't apply this seerum at daytime but i apply sunscreen daily

What do you mean by that? Did the vitamin C cause breakouts for you, or are you specifically talking about acne?

Does alpha arbutin safe to use without any melasma condition or hyperpigmentation

yes@@shikharuhela7119

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial can i kept alpha arbutin in fridge??

Usually, if you have a room temperature of around 20 degrees Celsius, I wouldn't put it in the fridge. However, if it's above that, then yes.

well what kind of hyperpigmentation do you have 🤔

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial dark spot on both cheek

Can i use Glycolic Acid 7% toning Solution?

@@ednaarcillas9353 yes, that would be a good option.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial any cream could i put on the dark spot??☺️

If you're looking to brighten your skin, you can use a vitamin C derivative such as Ascorbyl Glucoside. This ingredient is known for its ability to reduce dark spots and even out skin tone.

Hey! :) What else do you use? Like, what's your AM and PM routine? Also, do you apply the serum to dry skin?

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial hi ! thankyou for replying. my am routine is: cleanser, alpha arbutin, niacinamide, moisturizer & sunscreen. pm routine is: cleanser, alpha arbutin, niacinamide and moisturizer. i apply serums to damp skin.

Can you tell me exactly how you use these products and the names of each product you use? Also, what do you mean when you say you apply the serums to damp skin? Do you leave any water drops on the skin surface? Or do you use a towel to dry the skin?@@insia1061

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial hi ! i learnt from your videos that damp skin is tapping the face dry with a towel so i do exactly that ! as for the names, i use products from a local skin care company as the ones like ordinary & cerave are extremely expensive for me. i cleanse w a cleanser which has 3% niacinamide+ hyaluronic acid. then 2% alpha arbutin+ HA. then 10% niacinamide+ 1% zinc. then a peptide infused moisturizer and a gel based sunscreen. i have incorporated the alpha arbutin just a few days ago into my routine & ever since i have been noticing these small dark patches on my skin.

Okay :) So it's definitely the alpha arbutin causing it. Very interesting. Do these patches go away? What do they look like? Can you send me a picture? My email is melissavandijk@posteo.net. Initially, I thought the culprit might be the vitamin C. However, some people also experience this with Ascorbic Acid and Alpha Arbutin. I always assumed it was due to the vitamin C oxidizing. I'm not sure what's causing it, but it seems to be a common issue. Perhaps it's a reaction with other skincare products? 🤔 If you want to test this theory, you could try using only the alpha arbutin from your routine. Wait a couple of minutes and then apply your sunscreen to see if that resolves the problem. Alternatively, to avoid the issue entirely, it might be best to use it in the evening by itself after cleansing. This way, you can observe if there's any change. If you're very concerned, you might choose to stop using it altogether. However, it would be interesting to determine the root cause of the issue.

It depends on what caused the pigmentation in the first place. So let's say it was caused by UV exposure, and now you always protect the skin with Sunscreen; it will not come back, but if you stop doing it, it will likely become the same.

oh okaaay, thank you so much 🙌🏻 youre the only youtuber who replies to every query no matter what 🙌🏻

I removed it until further documents/references. Because it is the unknown which makes me think of it all the time, and others have "a bit" more research and are not so much of a concern.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial Thank you Melissa for all the research 🙂

@@johnneilluga3098 😃

What your recomendation between niacimide, Vit c, azalaic acid, alpha arbutin.. For enlighten your skin in a most safety?

Are you sure that it is the food and not the stress? But if so just change it 🤔?

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial sometimes

Even though if I changed my food will I get my thick hair back?

I'm not sure, however, I know that Stress and Food can have a significant impact on the body.

Hey! :) Yes, this can work.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thx ☺️

It is because none of these products was tested for pregnancy; therefore, there are no results, and I cannot give you any advice. So the best you can do is ask a local doctor. But my advice would be to avoid such products during pregnancy.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial thank you so much for the answer melissa

🥰

well according to this paper there are some concerns. 🙁

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial I just don't understand which vit C to get. Klairs has essential oils which I try to avoid. CeraVe is not available in my country. Any suggestion?

@@moumitareads3738 I like The Ordinary Vitamin C Powder with Hyaluronic Acid or Marine Hyaluronics which you need to mix. Or a formulation such as G&G C-Glow very affordable and works just as good.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial can I mix it with klairs rich soothing serum?

@@moumitareads3738 the powder? Yes, but with a serum it absorbs better! So you may not see the full benefits when used with a richer cream.

So you have to trust them, depending on how they receive and store it.

Where did you get it from? And has it changed colour, and how do you store it?

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial I kept it in the refrigerator I got it from cosmetic and drug store here in Pakistan only they are very reliable just opened it today it has not changed color I'm using just a drop hope that's ok Can I use it with granactive retinoid??? And then rosehip oil Please let me know I trust you and waiting for your reply 😊

@@batoolhussain7389 Well, as I pointed out, the skin may turn it into hydroquinone which is always a risk. But the temperature is no issue if it hasn't changed colour and was appropriately stored. And yes, it can certainly be used with these products, but it may have some issues with low pH skincare, but you do not use any, so it doesn't matter.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficialthanks❣

M from pak too ..batool does alpha arbutin causes issues in u or not

no

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial but arbutin reduces tyrosine activity...so melanin will reduce ..any suggestions??

@@vinaysoni7455 Well, do you want to coat your beard with alpha arbutin like a mask or something? In that case, it may slightly lighten it if you use a lot of the product. But if you just apply it to specific areas and want to lighten your skin, using the recommended amount, then I highly doubt that it will have any effects on that. I've never heard of someone complaining about this issue.

@@MelissaVanDijkOfficial I was thinking of using it in daily skincare routine..along with niacinamide 5%,and hyloronic acid 1%, arbutin1%

​@@vinaysoni7455 To use on the skin or to coat your beard? 🫣

also i am from CT

you can do that yes.