Lets be honest here, most classes are also there to filter out the candidates that dont make the cut.

The only skill I learned in college is how to dissect information; it has proven to be the most valuable skill to this day.

Many flashbacks to my EE college days! Thank you so very much for the content.

Good Video! I'm right now in the third semester in technician engineer in plastic and its crazy what i learn right now, but it helps me a lot that I just focus on that ticket (degree) and keep doing it. Greetings from Germany :)

Great info! I am currently a senior in a EE program. I have worked in the industry for all of my college years and most of my engineers cannot help me with my homework because they forgot it all. I think the way engineering programs work is they are brutal enough to filter out all the people who don't want to be there. They cover 10% of dozens of topics. That way when a new employer asks you about something you can at least say you are familiar with it.

I found this video to be very informative, thank you!

This was great, very informative. Thank You.

This video has helped me a lot thanks

What I've found in my science career is that you never know which part of your education you're going to need when. Two years into my current job, I was asked to fabricate lead shielding for patients getting radiotherapy to shallow nose tumours. Suddenly I needed all the skills I learned in grade 8 metal shop. I was surprised, but really happy I had taken metal shop for a term! My point being, any education is worthwhile even if you don't know it at the time.

The crew is having a wonderful time.

Thank you for this perspective. Not many college students can view it like this.

This video was soo useful thank you so much I’m 16 from London and this has been STRESSING me ty so much

Great video; mad real

That's what I experienced, too. I was one of the best in my Calculus class. Now I can barely do any Calculus. Most of the engineering I do, only use basic Algebra. But I love my job, so there's that.

Remember the way you inspected the amazon box? The engineer in you came out and that was pretty awesome to witness. Knowledge can be fascinating.

Laplace theorem! Omg i loved math (graduated with a math degree)...granted I use a bit of math in my workforce, i def don't use as much as i use as i thought in college.

Totally worth it. In 2008 I visited Singapore - I liked it there. I stayed there for 7 years - without degree I wouldn’t get a job and work visa.

My first degree was in Mathematics and Finance which got me a cushy job with a hedge fund - that gave me enough money to buy some real estate and do 'practical' investing myself. The degree was very theoretical and never learned much practical information for my job or in investing. It was a ticket. After that did a Masters in Real Estate Investment & Finance and that was nearly 100% all practical - taught be people in the real world or who had done real world jobs then gone back to academia. So Real Estate lawyer, PhD Finance guy who ran his own private equity real estate company, those who do consulting work for Investment banks and leading real estate companies etc - real estate development, real estate investment modelling, appraisal, real estate law, methods of finance etc. All useful stuff that I applied in my next career in private equity real estate. Most undergrads are fluff theoretical with little use but give you that ticket. However, choosing a practical Masters degree can be extremely useful.

You learn the engineering method. In my EE training it was stressed that you are learning to engineer not just learning tools. Knowing the math, the physics, the theory separates us from technicians and programmers.

Cool video. Pretty cool that u programmed in assembly and c.

This was a great video !

This is interesting. My son is currently in school for electrical engineering and planning. Something to think on for sure

My friend who takes care of the power grid for the Kwajalein island military base said it would take 3 months for me to learn his job. However, you never know where you might end up, so the basics have to be taught. I was briefly introduced to L-C circuits in school. Just the other day I was trying to fix an electronically controlled washing machine. I saw that the motor was controlled with a triac. I noticed that motor had a capacitor and a coil of wire that was hung under the machine with tywraps. The wiring diagram said it was an inductor. I eventually found a website that explained how to control reversing motors with triacs and they gave a good layman's explanation. The washing machine manufacturer practically copied the circuit component by component. With my generic "toolbox" of knowledge, I was able to fix something I had never been trained on. A good education helps you at least know where to go to solve things.

As someone who did complete a Computer Engineering degree, one doesn't necessarily need to get a masters just to get a job. If you want to get into what a top rated company right off the bat, sure that can certainly give someone a leg up, but taking an entry-level position in the industry certainly isn't going to be minimum wage. I think what is missing in a lot of these discussions of "Is X worth it?" assumes that X should have automatically assumed the trajectory of the individual's career instead of preparing them to be versatile and flexible coming out of school. And anything that was deemed not applicable to a person's current career was something they shouldn't have learned to begin with. But on top of being a well-rounded engineer, you can push to use skills you have learned and offer them up to your employer in ways they might not have thought of. Also if one expects a single class teaching control theory to be an entrepreneur, I think that is kind of short-sighted since that is what taking on projects are really the best at shaping students into thinking about projects from start to finish are for outside of class work. There are so many engineering competitions that I feel are the best at those things and I didn't learn crap from the one-semester class that was supposed to teach me that. That class only really touched on what was appropriate to wear at work, project scheduling and budgets. And the last part I think a lot of people don't realize is that Silicon Valley engineering jobs don't represent the experience for all engineering jobs. There are differences between working within different industries and in different parts of the US. I know software engineers that work for one of the huge tech companies has five roommates, I don't think will ever save enough to purchase a house, and me making probably half the amount he does and living where I live, I am a year away from paying off my first house. Maybe it is just my experience where engineers aren't just relegated to desk jobs and they never see the light of day. In my experience, there are regular trips for field testing or meeting customers to provide them solutions at their sites. It is like assuming that working in Silicon Valley would be the exact experience as working at NASA. But I guess there is probably a good reason why there aren't many people who work, defense or government engineering jobs actually talking about those experiences because most of the time you kinda can't really talk too much about exactly what you do, but personally I find it flexible in terms of time and work-life balance, and the schedules don't seem as brutal for Silicon Valley either. I just find it sad that people point to working in Silicon Valley as a goal and must be the best quality job out of all the industry, and when that experience falls short people assume that was the best engineering could ever be so they doubt that any of it is worth it.

Great video!! Schools are Academics...PHDs..two year degrees provide best value for a job..

I sure hope it will be. My daughter's fiance is working towards his Master's degree in Engineering and since they live in the Los Angeles area he will be able to make a good living for their family. My daughter has a four year degree in film and is a writer but breaking into the Entertainment Industry is not always an easy task.

Man I feel so bad that I have forgotten practically everything other than what's part of my job. I have to read electronics tutorials about inductors to recover some knowledge that I need now... Money wise I have earned several times more in 4 yrs that I'm out of school than I paid for it though.. You have to keep evolving though and keep the motivation going.

An engineering degree or any degree gives you breadth and depth on an entire discipline. It would be like learning only to pinch pennies but not learning about stocks, options, bonds, money markets, etc. You may not use all of them but you have some idea they exists and some concept how they function and could work for you. Sure, school can may have some non-relavant topics, but it is hard for anyone to identify "exactly" what you need to "know". And plenty of things have been invented and plenty of successful people without degrees.

Accounting is the same way, most of what they teach you is not used, but you need that paper to get in the door.

Currently finishing up my M.S. in Aerospace Engineering. To be fair I think a lot of engineering school is to gain exposure to these concepts (Laplace Transforms are really useful for dynamic system controls, for example), but you're probably right about what the day-to-day looks like in that we're not using all of it. But I don't think that the first time someone sees a new concept should be on the job. The interesting thing about Aerospace is that we get coursework in programming, electrical and electronics engineering, thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, structures and more. Nothing too in depth, but exposure to everything. It's probably why most of the grads from my school become systems engineers.

Do a video on your opinion of Dan Lok’s high ticket closing. Many youtubers doing this now.

lol I sure hope it is for the sake of my daughter and her fiance. He just got his Bachelor's degree this summer and is going to start working towards his Master's in the fall. They live in Los Angeles and with the high cost of housing and their plans to start a family they are going to need a very good income.

*You made a cup holder out of a gimbal, off course the degree's worth it!*

Worth it, yes. The job itself has a lot of responsibility, which a lot of college students don't think about. You're very right about the day-to-day work. As a mechanical, I've had to use the concepts sparingly and mainly just a reference note to understand how the calculation system works. Very rarely problem statement style.

you pretty much echo my thoughts about college. I have a BS EE from UCR and when I graduated, I found that I didn't have half the qualifications that most EE jobs wanted when I started college. When I tried out different jobs, e.g. hardware, firmware engineer, they required hardly any knowledge from the degree. Zero calculus, zero Fourier transforms, zero Laplace transforms, zero Linear Time Invariant systems. I feel like those were building the foundations for a EE PhD that I was never going to pursue. On the other hand, I had almost zero practical knowledge like how to use Altium Designer/OrCAD, what marketing is, corporate finances, how to use all the peripherals on an Arduino, how to use an RTOS, how to read a Smith chart, how to find people's problems instead of engineering something nobody wants. Needless to say I'm highly annoyed and now I am paying thousands to internet marketers that can fill in those gaps

Hello! My concern is from a financial perspective if it would make sense to pursue an engineering degree. With no degree I currently make 75k a year. I am, besides small annual wage increases, at the top of what I can expect to make even if I continue what I'm doing until I retire. I was looking into engineering for a long term answer to wage growth over time, but the universities near me stated their graduates average closer to 65k after graduation. Does the wage typically go quite higher with experience? I appreciate anyone with input on this.

My only concern now is getting accepted by a University and for me to get a Degree in engineering .But things has changed with the pandemic and schools and syllabus . Most of Universities wants your June results .But I cant apply because I dont have my june only first term results because I'm only writing my June examination in July we all are because of this pandemic and schools being closed 'but by that time the application are already closed.And I dont wanna wait till next year and then apply and waste a year doing nothing . What should I do i was planning on just applying with my first term results and see will they accept me because they aren't changing their application dates

In your opinion, how can one become a well rounded engineer; whereby they can design something and lay out a board and have a final product that they put together like you mentioned (since the education given teaches how to work within a company). I do not know much about the programs. Going for bsc and Msc sounds like a big decision for someone to learn a lot of things that they do not get to apply.

I got a B.S. in mechanical engineering, and I had a hard time getting my foot in the door because of my resume. I'm currently not working as an engineer either. I'd like to see your opinions/thoughts on the topic of resumes, and if you would consider putting down KZfaq as "work experience." If so, what would you put?

Studying civil engineer and I have heard many graduates say A lot of what you have said. So true

I’m about to go university for engineering and this video was useful, hopefully I don’t get cut and killed off like its the academic hunger games.

I am an infrastructure engineer with a Master's Degree, most of what i know i learned from doing it and troubleshooting, lots of it!

While I would agree I do not use 90% of what I learned in engineering school in my daily career, I would say that taking all of those courses do train your brain to solve complex problems, which is something that I do daily. You can teach most people how to do very specific tasks and chances are after a while they will learn to master these skills, but I think having the engineering degree shows that you have the ability to think critically and solve complex problems, as they do not just hand out engineering degrees to most people (I hope). I am not saying that it it is necessary to have this to prove that you have these skills, but I think it helps.

I left it after the first semester after I saw what a graduate from same school was doing in his job I laughed so hard but panicked and started researching... 18years old are just not intellectually fit enough to make real world choices they have so many illusions... Thank god for that dude who came to our school for a presentation... BTW he was working for someone with no degree as well hahahha

GOALS/SKILL Still, you have the education and experience to be a *problem solver.* That is key to success in life. Look at a problem. Identify the goal and obstacles, then come up with a feasible solution, one as practical as possible with the resources and time considered.

BTB, I did a civil engineering degree. I basically just use some of the information we learnt from 3rd and final year. But to be honest I am not happy. That's why I am trying to built a nice nest egg so that I can seek other exciting opportunities. It's not that I don't want to work. I don't want to work as an engineer for the rest of my life

I'm one of those lesser intellegent folks who barely understands what electrical engineers would do on the day to day basis

I did a Master of Engineering (Electrical), currently working as a consultant in Cyber Security. An engineering degree is fantastic at teaching you how to approach and solve problems that would overwhelm many people. The methodical and detail oriented approaches you learn throughout an engineering degree are very valuable in any career. Just because you studied a specific discipline of engineering doesn't mean you have to follow through with a career in it. I moved to Cyber Security within 6 months of finishing my Masters (after working EE jobs throughout university). I have peers that did Master of Engineering (Electrical/Mechanical) who are killing it in business roles. If you ever think that you will never use the content you are learning, just remember, an engineering degree is a "license to be a problem solver". Just finishing an engineering degree shows you are a fast learner with great attention to detail and are willing to put in the time to achieve an outcome. An engineering degree is a fantastic way to get your foot in the door to nearly any organisation. All the best to all prospective engineers!

I'm going to school for IT/multimedia not engineering, but what I would say is that co-op is extremely useful. You get relevant job experience while at school, and I make enough that I will be debt free and with some money extra when I graduate. Of course it helps that I live at home too. 😂

I feel like this perfectly explains college for most careers today. It is expected that out of high school you go to college. This essentially makes it a "minimum requirement" into many jobs now because it is just expected you have the education, no matter how much those skills are actually used at the job.

6:00 how could you be a real engineer without knowing how to do this type of stuff on your own?

What was your salary before quitting your job?

I have school work all the way back to freshman high school

M.S. Electrical Engineering. People said I wouldn't use what I learned, but in my case, I did. The first 20 years of my career I used the math and engineering.. yes electrical engineer working in aerospace industry.

I have a BS Degree in Civil Engineering but my job is in Air Quality Engineering for the State of CA. It pays up to 117k/yr without a PE license, with a pension and medical. It has definitely open doors for me even if my profession is unrelated to my degree.

The engineering degree helps you become a problem solving master learner that can be utilized across all forms of human labor. In other words, the discipline you demonstrated getting the engineering degree enables you to carry your SKILL OF LEARNING over anything that you must take on, whether it be learning how to snake out a main sewer line of your house, swap out the motor and capacitor of your air conditioner (pull out the safety fuse to prevent death first!), design, build, and install a solar system, cut and replace cast iron pipe under a concrete foundation, remove/repair your transmission/engine, unclog a toilet, cut a door into a brick wall, repair an absorption chiller, or replace a broken window. I have to thank KZfaq, for helping me learn all these "trades". In the future, I hope to make videos to help others do the same (no matter their background). The demonstration of achievement of getting a degree, demonstrates you have a much higher ability to learn than most, from the sheer difficulty of an ABET accredited STEM field degree (as minimum standard). The greatest value of an engineering degree is LEARNING THE SKILL OF LEARNING, always keeping a begginer's mindset. Jeff Bezos graduated at/near the top of his electrical engineering class, and now he is the "richest" man in the world after forming Amazon, albeit, I like the philosophy "A man is rich in proportion to the number of things which he can afford to let alone." -Henry David Thoreau (1854). I hope though, that all engineers learn to be independent of their employer, first and foremost, and do so as soon as possible, this is why I love the BeatTheBush channel, I too would like to help engineers (graduated from ABET institutions as a start) who have not achieved full independence yet, to also become financially independent, by teaching how to contradict Parkinson's Law, and apply Pareto's Law (critical laws they did not teach us in engineering school, however engineering school fed my desire to learn & conquer, and so I learned about these laws too, and have applied them, and worked around the contradictions, to the point where I do not have to work for an employer to survive economically. I am an independent free operator that walks to a bus stop with a small backpack (toothbrush, toothpaste, and floss included), to take a train to the airport, and then to fly, to travel internationally as a minimalist traveler. I go to places where I wash my clothes with my hands and there is no hot water, and I love it, as it gives me greater appreciation for what I have at "home". All money I bring in now from my labor is 100% discretionary, and every engineer needs to be in this position. My biggest problem now is being complacent, so I have been working on over-coming that. Always keep a beginner's mind, no matter what you think you know, that way, you will always be learning and expanding your skill-set at becoming a master! BE A MASTER AT LEARNING FIRST, never be afraid to say "I don't know", everything is probabilistic, the rest will follow. Keep up the great videos, BeatTheBush, thank you!

Analogue desight, could that be a electric guitar tube amplifier?

I am a master's thesis and two 5 credit courses away from graduating and after that i am going to switch career and start a whole new degree

I'm starting a new job as a control application engineer in december, have any tips? :)

Yes definitly is. Lots and lots of engineering jobs wanted. great skillsets to have. High salary. I do agree with you that most stuff you use in school wont use or forget about it when you start working. The majors themselves are challenging aswell especially cus tech is evolving. But at the end if you have the motivation you can do it. Im an mechatronic engineer student btw

I remember learning calculus, it was ridiculous lol 🙃

When I was in my internship I talked to an engineer who had been working 20 years. I asked him how much of what he learned in school can he say he actually used. He said about 20-30%. The rest he didnt use. I can see how all the things learn is not fresh in your memory. They give us extra information just in case we need it depending on which way we go career wise. Most of it we will never use. Which is why a lot of mh professors say to keep your engineering text book for reference just in case you need a refresher.

I feel college, in general, is not just overly theoretical. It also fails to teach practical skills that employers actually look for. So much of engineering is knowing software that you may or may not have seen in college, and employers keep asking for experience.

Finally someone with the right mindset, everybody keeps complaining that they are not gonna use this and that when in fact this-and-that teaches you how to think! A scool shouln't create cogs for a machine it should create people who can adapt. But then again, why didn't we learn anything about money ? Including kindergarden I went to various educational institutions for 20 years (including a 5 year university) and I had 0 courses about what I can do with the money I earn. Anyway. I did a similar thing as BTB recently I found at my mom's place some old notes from the university, apparently I had a course called Expert Systems, I have no idea what it was :)I also had a course called Computer Graphics, can you believe they didn't teach us a single line of OpenGL?! Just some math theory about various transformations and stuff. But seriously, it's not like OpenGL is just a hype, it is here to stay. I was very disappointed.

My background is in computer science sounds similar you lean a little about a lot of different sub topics in college. In a career you tend to specialize more.

What do you think about someone who got a bs in bus admin major in information sys/minor in comput app and is now going to get a bachelor in computer engineering??

1-2 years of specific training would be better. I think that's the point of getting a Masters but I don't have $50,000 and 2 years to gamble on that

I think 💭 that you. Can Applied the same concept for almost all carriers. Except for medicine. Or if you are a Lawyer.

engineering or econ?

But if a person paid for the education with student loans, is the higher salary still worth it when you factor in the years of debt repayment?

Even if your engineering profession has a lot of math computer software does it for you in the complex cases

Depressingly,Edinburgh University in Scotland(UK),has openly admitted to us undergraduates in Engineering that their success rate in computer programming is so poor that they recommend those of us new to coding not to sign up for programming.This is my first term and I am seriously considering abandoning a course which cannot teach the most basic of software to an adequate level.Friends at Cambridge are in a similar bind,their lecturers rarely interact with them and find their questions tiresome,one lecturer has yet to appear in person for any of his work.These are suppose to be "good"universities here in the UK,are American departments any better?

Hello, Mr. Beat The bush. I know this is very informal, but I did not know how to handle or contact you lol. I know you live in the California area (unsure area), but a few students and I are trying to get sponsorship/funding to go assist with the recent fires. I live in Texas and I'm a student at North Central Texas College in Gainesville, TX and as we are ending our semester we are wanting to go volunteer our time to help those in needs. I have got with local organizations as well as the Red Cross for direction, but I'm asking everyone if they can help us get to California to help out. Anything will help. I can give you our person who is in charge of the Student Life organization and is the specialist at our Specialist Corinth & Flower Mound campuses. Anything would be appreciated. Thank you so much and keep up the good work with your videos! :) Thanks, Christopher Hernandez- BSN in the making :)

I don't know anything about engineering but I would love to have a Civil Engineering degree.... They are responsible for all kinds of important things like major infrastructure projects (Skyscrapers, dams, power plants...) Seems interesting

If you can get the degree with the cheapest alternative then yes otherwise piling up thousands and thousands of debt is a big no no.

My husband has a bachelor's in computer engineering and electrical engineering. He looked for an engineering job for a year after graduation and nothing. He was more than willing to start at the bottom, he only managed to get one interview. We had no idea finding a job in engineering was going to be so difficult (we live in Orlando Fl, so maybe that's part of the issue) so he finally settled on Maintenance engineering at a local hospital. I think now he is heading towards biomedical engineering which they said he is overqualified for. Anyway, it would have been nice if the college told students how difficult it is to get a job in this field, instead of telling them there are plenty of jobs available. =(

From my personal experience, it depends on where you work. I worked in R&D for a while, in that context you need to be on top of your game with most of the knowledge from the engineering program. Also, Engineering is a science(mostly applied), therefore they need to teach you abstract concepts in order for you to come up with new ideas and contribute to the "body of knowledge":).

I am studying automation engineering my marks are always bad I feel so stupid and can't go to work with the degree that I will have

What do you call the "General Practitioner" of the Engineering field? An engineer who covers all aspects of Engineering?

Answer at 6:23

Instead of saying "that's just how it is" you should advocate in revising/altering the college system. It's absurd how you have to waste your life learning about engineering and then not actually apply it. Once you get into the work force.

I had a friend who's studying hard to become an electrical engineer. Sucks to be him, ha!

I agree. If you're in a profession that does things like send rockets into space than you may be using all that math. But how many people gets the opportunity to work for NASA? Not many. Most engineer will be working in some manufacring plant somewhere.

I would say that it doesn't matter what system you are in Australia, U.S. or Russia it everywhere the same. For average Engineer at least 60% is useless, unless you want to become top notch and that's where all of this blood and alcohol tears come to play ).

the issue with some people is they can't graduate doing their degree in engineering.

I’m 25 and lost. My gf said engineering is hard and you have to learn calculus1-4. What should I do guys? I have no college experience & work as a meat cutter making $22hr. Help me

Can you do a video on where you buy clothes? You seem to have a very nice wardrobe for someone who is a minimalist.

Amen brother! Took me 5.5 years to get my engineering degree. The system is all jacked up.

I'm in my senior year of my bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering. I think about this stuff almost every single day. Going to school part time has put me at 8+ years. I worry about my GPA (3.0-ish), I worry about my future job and I worry about providing for my future son ( T-minus 2 months). I also worry about when I finish my B.S. degree, should I get my masters? After obsessing about that, I then worry about if I will be able to get my PE license. I think about these things every single night and every single morning. I still cannot decide if this has all been worth it. I eventually talk myself down and tell myself that this is the path that I chose and I WILL finish it. The only constant about any of this, is my will to find and maintain happiness. I only hope that the decisions that I have made will help me achieve that.

I just graduated and I'm watching this video.

All Day

I have an associates in mechanical engineering and make 80k a year and I'm 28. Worth it for sure.

Only thing I absolutely HATE about college is that I spend 75% of my time in useless classes, and/or learning useless information at an unbelievably slow rate. A semester long course spends half the semester reviewing topics from the previous course. School is extremely inefficient. It shouldn't take 25 years to learn what you learn in school.

I wonder what percentage of people actually use more than 5% of what they learnt in their job. It is quite sad that I invested 4 years in doing these complex learning activities and yet when I look back at my maths notes I haven't a clue of what it was. But at the same time, I wouldn't be spending 95% of my time coding without a Master's degree even though it was mostly self taught. As much as I want to say you must only do a degree if you plan to be doing something specifically using that knowledge, I think a degree broadens and trains the mind in indirect ways and I would recommend even if nearly all who do one won't directly end up using the things learnt from one.

Howisitgoingeverybodythisisbeatthebush

Struggle is good.

My engineering degree is 100% worthless. It would be more useful if they had put perforations in it. I graduated in 2015 with a 3.43 GPA and got my first job in the USA in 2019 as a FedEx package handler.

I would argue that you are using your engineering background in the way put together content. Your persona says engineer or finance/bookkeeper like people who are no longer in military and still stick out from across the room to the initiated.

Engineering degree is the only degree worth getting. I had to use LaPlace transforms.

Yepper,,,an engineering degree ONLY states you have the capacity to solve most problems....I've never used Fourier or La Place Transforms, neither the resonance Xc=XL, Fr=2 pie 1/ SRT L X C for any engineering job.....I did use the Slope Y=MX+B and a2+b2=C2 those exclusively. Seriously do you need 4 years to teach you V=IR and Xc XL impedance?