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Is Ash Leaving The Pokemon Anime A HUGE Mistake?!

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Күн бұрын

Ash's final adventures have begun with him leaving the anime in just about 3 months...but is this a mistake? Today, I give you all my take on these events!
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@GoinGreninja
@GoinGreninja Жыл бұрын
I love Ash but I've to say, it's no mistake. A new character can make things more interesting and frankly, the guy just needs to rest, he journeyed for far too long.
@Jociaoftrades
@Jociaoftrades Жыл бұрын
Yup. Ash is honestly the reason I don’t watch the anime. When things like the little shorts I can’t remember the name of, but had the girl in the woods get trapped in a house for of ghost Pokémon, I enjoyed that. And things like Origins. Hell I enjoyed seeing Misty and Brock come back just to see how they’ve grown. Ash never grew. Sure in character, but it wasn’t enough. So now that he is finally leaving, I think the anime will be more interesting to me. And trust me. I wanted to be like Ash when I was a kid.
@sonicfan2403
@sonicfan2403 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and I think his victory in the World Championship was the perfect way to end his journey! Because after that, I feel like Paldeo wouldn't really do anything else. I do see him becoming a pure mentor figure for this new series. If they make this new girl his daughter, I could really see potential writing between them, kind of similar to Funimation's Goku and Gohan dynamic!
@your_god_lucifer2386
@your_god_lucifer2386 Жыл бұрын
Nope since he was 10 the whole time it somehow all happened in just one year
@StaffSergeantSigmon
@StaffSergeantSigmon Жыл бұрын
Drawings journeyed too far?
@doubleoof7907
@doubleoof7907 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he can be like a mentor figure to the new trainer, He doesn’t have to entirely leave the story
@stevenjohnson6962
@stevenjohnson6962 Жыл бұрын
I think it could be a mistake if the new characters can't live up but at the sametime ash needed to leave at some point.
@LittleAl016
@LittleAl016 Жыл бұрын
He should have been gone a long time ago. But, better late than never, I suppose.
@notshockwavedemon7543
@notshockwavedemon7543 Жыл бұрын
Yeah we can't dragon a Single Main Character forever Will miss him but hey he had a very long run and I do feel like it was long enough
@paulandrew6867
@paulandrew6867 Жыл бұрын
Ye ash needed to leave eventually because it would get too repetitive and keep resetting ash's development
@notshockwavedemon7543
@notshockwavedemon7543 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I made a dragon pun I love how Ash gets a broken Dragon pokemon and the First Dragon pokemon ever in his Final Team
@-TurboS
@-TurboS Жыл бұрын
In the future I think they will bring ash back to the anime. Anime can take the soft reboot route.
@KnightRaymund
@KnightRaymund Жыл бұрын
Changing him is a big risk. But then the longer it goes on the more keeping him is a risk too as they run out of things to do with him.
@BargerClan
@BargerClan 22 күн бұрын
I have to say it’s a mistake. The viewer numbers from the new show were low. People just aren’t ready to abandon ash
@ClefairyFairySnowflake
@ClefairyFairySnowflake Жыл бұрын
Ash leaving the anime sucks! I'll miss him. He was a part of my childhood as well. The pokemon anime won't be the same without him. But I guess all good things must come to an end eventually. Can't have the good without the bad and vise versa. Hopefully the new protagonists of the pokemon anime will live up to our expectations and more. We shall see.
@Suprnova84
@Suprnova84 Жыл бұрын
Well said!😢
@VolticWind
@VolticWind Жыл бұрын
Honestly regardless of Liko/Riko’s relation to Ash, be it as his daughter or a completely unrelated character, she has big shoes to fill.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
i hope it good but of course people will be pissed and i cant blame them
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
i think she is ash sister
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
@Donhimesama Daifutari good but my name is tyler singh and i’m a boy
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
@Donhimesama Daifutari she is ash sister and my name is tyler singh
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust Жыл бұрын
Could easily be a fangirl
@josuemassa2027
@josuemassa2027 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the actual mistake was keeping Ash for so long, making it progressively more difficult to replace him. That also brought the problem of having to reboot his character every new gen.
@raqueldemakos3473
@raqueldemakos3473 Жыл бұрын
Shut up
@hiriamanuel8909
@hiriamanuel8909 Жыл бұрын
This person is not real. It's someone who is promoting the new Pokemon properly
@KugelBlitz0
@KugelBlitz0 Жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Both characters are James and Jessie's kids (either together or two separate families), they saw Ash on TV at some point in the future, and decided to become Pokemon masters.
@TailsDollPrower
@TailsDollPrower Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA XDDDDD
@KnucklestheEcidna
@KnucklestheEcidna 9 ай бұрын
Ash leaving was something that simply HAD TO BE DONE. We're finally getting something brand new. what the anime was in DESPERATE need of for a LONG TIME now. This will finally give the writers a blank slate to restart from scratch and no longer be tied down by what came before. I hope this new generation will have a good future ahead of itself.
@kerrygligorovic9758
@kerrygligorovic9758 Жыл бұрын
To be honest I was expecting this final episode of Pokemon Journey Serie to at least have all of Ash's friends to come and celebrate before Ash departed with Goh and set off on his new Journey or even at least see a few of Ash's unevolved and middle evolved Pokemon finally evolved at last because that would make a better episode than this one. And now with the upcoming final chapter on Ash and Pikachu this year we will never see them again then after that but the same goes for Team Rocket (Jessie, James and Meowth). I really wished that the Japanese have though things through because with other regions villians from past Pokemon Anime Series like Team Magma, Team Aqua, Team Galactic, Team Plasma and Team Flare have disband after being defeated by Ash and his friends I would have though they should do the same for Team Rocket by now.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
bro who said this is the last time we see ash and pikachu
@coyotefever105
@coyotefever105 Жыл бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 they said they were going to be retired
@AnonymousEnigma19
@AnonymousEnigma19 Жыл бұрын
It's one of the main reasons why they either have to get that done and other things in these final episodes, or at least turn it into a movie at the very least, because if Ash is really retiring then he deserves a movie for his last hurrah.
@MrQuinnzard
@MrQuinnzard Жыл бұрын
Keep dreaming. Bulbasaur's never evolving.
@ChicagoMel23
@ChicagoMel23 Жыл бұрын
@@MrQuinnzard you can’t prove that
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 Жыл бұрын
The general director of the anime kunihiko iyama already gave us a canon answer why ash doesn’t age He says “I viewed the anime as a story that captured the feel of a day of summer vacation in one’s childhood of children venturing on a trip into the unknown exploring a world without parents alongside their friends and others who they engage along the way” “In the setting of the animation the main character ash is forever ten years old and the background season is forever early summer” “Sometimes it gets cold in the mountains or it could be hot, those changes happen by traveling” “Fundamentally it is forever early summer and he is forever ten years old and on top of that a day of summer vacation repeats perpetually” “This is what I hoped to create” “ a view of the world that would be ideal for children (addlibbed by me: and young at heart)”
@musehassan1784
@musehassan1784 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m really happy for Ash, he became a champion and I feel like he can rest after an achievement like that. Hopefully he makes some cameos in the future series
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
he could at least be 13 or 14 but not as an adult
@1stvinyl
@1stvinyl Жыл бұрын
He still be main the films for the au universe
@ladyarcanine1432
@ladyarcanine1432 Жыл бұрын
She'd better not be his daughter. Let people play with Ash's future on their own now that he's leaving.
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
she could be ash sister
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
no way i want him to stay in the anime forever i want him to be at least 13 or 14
@debreas6207
@debreas6207 Жыл бұрын
Being Ash’s daughter puts a lot of pressure on her. Can be overwhelming if she can’t live up and can doubt herself. For initial introduction and season it would explain why she fails at first while trying to learn.
@DukeTheDukeTheDukeTheDuke
@DukeTheDukeTheDukeTheDuke Жыл бұрын
Welp this whole comment is useless now because she's not ash's daughter but it wasn't revealed back when you pasted this comment.
@antoniacorrales9148
@antoniacorrales9148 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely a HUGE mistake. They didn't close out ANY of his remaining plot lines. Not with his mom, evolving his pokemon, his dad, or team rocket. They're switching protags because they no longer know how to handle ash. They aren't smart enough to have good writing in pokemon.
@DukeTheDukeTheDukeTheDuke
@DukeTheDukeTheDukeTheDuke Жыл бұрын
Ok y'all let's be real for a minute here. Y'all always said that Ash sucked because he kept losing pokemon leagues. But now because he's gone y'all pretend like he's the best trainer in the whole pokemon universe. I don't care that Ash is the world champion or whatever. This mf barely knows anything about type effectiveness. And plus his memory gets wiped everytime a new cycle comes. out. AND he can barely fully evolve a pokemon, how terrible of a trainer do you have to be to not be able to fully evolve pokemon that evolve BY LEVEL UP.Ash was never good. Y'all just tricked your brain into thinking he was because he's gone now.
@tyanajones8399
@tyanajones8399 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@MysticUmbreon
@MysticUmbreon 9 ай бұрын
Just read this comment now, and tbf, you're not wrong lol.
@Indigo_Polarity
@Indigo_Polarity Жыл бұрын
My hope going forward is that they do a new protagonist every generation. That way they can plan ahead with a clear end goal in mind for the characters, giving them deeper, more deliberate and satisfying characters arcs that Ash’s longevity didn’t really allow him.
@Shadow-rz5pb
@Shadow-rz5pb Жыл бұрын
@@Wario1382 Hmm. Heavily depends on how they present the new characters during their time in the spotlight. A good writer can feel the correct path for a character to walk down as they write, so I say "Just do what feels right". If they muck up and fail the characters first try the have a short while to try fixing them before realising they can't continue. If they have the characters work well they have to plan for the eventuality that they too will leave the anime one day. This is something the anime creators struggled with when presenting Ash in any series. After gen 4 they either had to dumb him down or have him keep moving up to the top. In my personal opinion the Pokèmon Company now has lots of data to work with when it comes to writing protagonists, so I feel these new characters will make a lot of good early impressions.
@Utopia39
@Utopia39 Жыл бұрын
I’m torn because Ash is my boy, but he’s also done everything he could really do.
@SMCwasTaken
@SMCwasTaken Жыл бұрын
He didn't catch a Mudkip or Marshtomp I still haven't forgave the writers for that, and i will not get over that
@jorgemulet2853
@jorgemulet2853 Жыл бұрын
love ash but yea he definitely proved his point it’s time
@54ahnaf59
@54ahnaf59 Жыл бұрын
Ash is not only our childhood.But also he is our emotion.He gave us a lot of thing, a lot of happy moments that is actually impossible for any other protagonist except for him.Miss you my boy and you will always be remarkable in your hearts.
@Lasherluke
@Lasherluke Жыл бұрын
It's not a mistake, what would be a mistake would be to bring him back if these new characters don't take off. The only people who are saying for him to stay are the ones who don't actually watch the series. Also, side note, making Liko connected to Ash would be a mistake, she needs to be her own character and form her own identity without having to relia on her being connected to Ash to be well known.
@ineedpowers5151
@ineedpowers5151 Жыл бұрын
👍🏻 Superb!!
@satansgalaxy1472
@satansgalaxy1472 Жыл бұрын
I feel like they should have him as a side character or like the strongest trainer in the new show
@alexnewby2004
@alexnewby2004 Жыл бұрын
Itd be cool to have him be the champion at the end of likos journey. Like, not ahove him in your face, but have a nice cameo every once in a while
@satansgalaxy1472
@satansgalaxy1472 Жыл бұрын
@@alexnewby2004 ye
@satansgalaxy1472
@satansgalaxy1472 Жыл бұрын
@Donhimesama Daifutari it would probably just be a higher level ash version of red
@nemesisstars1527
@nemesisstars1527 Жыл бұрын
Or bring in jimmy since he could spice it up with his comedy I would love to see him return but as a supporting trainer to help the younger trainers as he would be older and have more experience than he did in Pokémon chronicles
@satansgalaxy1472
@satansgalaxy1472 Жыл бұрын
@@nemesisstars1527 they should bring him back no matter what happens
@randomguy6230
@randomguy6230 Жыл бұрын
No it isnt. Ash and pikachu deserve a proper conclusion. Their story felt so dragged on.
@hereskyubi3333
@hereskyubi3333 Жыл бұрын
I would understand if he was the protagonist for 3 or so years. But 25? That's too long to remove the main character from his protagonist role.
@xionkuriyama5697
@xionkuriyama5697 Жыл бұрын
Sounds more like overdue to me
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@xionkuriyama5697 well nobody asked now did it changing a anime protagnist get harder and harder the longer the show last look at dbz gohan was a fan favorite right up the point were it was revealed he was gonna replace goku ..and naruto firmly cemented that feeling
@hereskyubi3333
@hereskyubi3333 Жыл бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 Spot on.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@hereskyubi3333 the sense of familiarity is a huge reason people watch Pokemon plus all the lovable and goofy characters we met If I don't see brock make a cameo in paldea I will riot
@melskunk
@melskunk Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm more sad about what's going to happen to Jessie and James than Ash. The latest few series have really reminded me the importance of good characters that aren't ash in the show. S&M especially was really strong with making ensemble fun and interesting and I don't think they'll have an issue with making the new characters lovable. I think the time of needing Ash as the entry character is past
@jaspaljohal6562
@jaspaljohal6562 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't wanna see Ash leave, I've been a fan of Ash since I was like 5 and he's my favorite character. But I feel like they can give this a try but it if it doesn't work out, have ash come back in and keep it going.
@KeybladeDragon10
@KeybladeDragon10 Жыл бұрын
I feel that it's maybe one generation too soon for Ash to be replaced as I reckon the fact that he's the world monarch is a perfect setup for his invitation to Paldea where there are multiple 'champion' level trainers for him to meet and battle etc. And if they wanted to go a different route because he's supposedly the strongest trainer, then they could have him focus of the treasure hunt or some other offering of the Paldea region. Plus, having new protagonists with generation 10 would have been a nicer number than starting with generation 9. Ah well, only time will tell how well these new protagonists end up being.
@barcey
@barcey Жыл бұрын
It's a good thing that they're retiring Ash. There's only so many stories you can tell with him before it either gets stale or starts damaging his character and honestly? This should have happened earlier.
@deceptionz_
@deceptionz_ Жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest, because the gen 1 one pandering. I highly doubt if this anime is unsuccessful, or they need a strong person for the characters to team up with ash will make cameos left and right. Hell, maybe even joining if his first season is unsuccessful.
@Weaponator18
@Weaponator18 Жыл бұрын
As intentionally vague as Ash's goal of 'pokemon master' is, we've all viewed, cheered, and bonded most with Ash through battles. Now that he's the strongest trainer in the anime world, there's nowhere for him to go; and it's impossible for the anime with him and pikachu to have stakes now. Ash and Pikachu are going out on a high note; and that's a good thing. The new characters have some huge shoes to fill. But it's possible for them to do so as long as the story isn't a carbon copy of the Ash formula.
@ssjgarfield
@ssjgarfield Жыл бұрын
I think it's about time for Ash to clear the road for a new protagonist. I'm still hinging on the idea that Liko is Ash's daughter due to the statement that Liko doesn't like to talk about her family because she doesn't want to get special treatment from the school she attends and the only way I can see her reasons for not liking to talk about her family is if she's the daughter of the World Champion. Either that or something horrible happened to her parents, but I don't see the Pokémon anime do that to a main protagonist.
@jamiewalsh3349
@jamiewalsh3349 Жыл бұрын
Ash leaving the anime is like passing the torch to a new generation. Ash was my hero. But Liko has a lot to live up to especially since she's going to be the Ash to my nephew and niece (when they finally start watching the anime) as he was to me.
@kamentrainerhorn2073
@kamentrainerhorn2073 Жыл бұрын
Ash leaving the anime is not a mistake. The time has come for him to step aside. But, the anime going forward needs to let the new protagonists be... new protagonists, like you said. It's safer, in my opinion, if Liko is NOT related to Ash, and this would actually be a smarter move at this stage. I just don't want the anime to use all their best tricks too quickly and then burn out needlessly. Move as far away from Ash as possible, start from zero, and work from there.
@starcatcher9699
@starcatcher9699 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I've felt it was coming for a while now. Sometime during Journeys I kinda got this feeling in my gut that something was up. I ignored it but it never went away. In hindsight, it was pretty obvious. I'm sad, obviously, but like when Brock left I do think that it needed to happen. The anime has been needing a breath of fresh air for a while now. Ash had been working towards his goal for so long, it was starting to become pointless keeping up with the anime. Of course, a part of me is worried. Some shows and movies as of late have been turning their main characters into blank slates so that people can see themselves in the character and you know that's... fine but it can make protagonists kinda boring.
@aeolus_or_sellennia
@aeolus_or_sellennia Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@triforceofcourage100
@triforceofcourage100 Жыл бұрын
It was made clear to me that something was up when Bif I mean Butch and Kassidy were shown to have fully retired from Team Rocket. Why would they retire two well-liked legacy characters other than to give them a proper send off and set up our Rocket Trio’s arc to finally break free from Rocket’s influence and do something actually productive with their lives.
@the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8
@the-angel-of-light-gardevoir8 Жыл бұрын
A new Generation is always tough no matter what…. But it’s Pokémon… it will prevail
@ericsanders9847
@ericsanders9847 Жыл бұрын
Hear hear
@c0mpu73rguy
@c0mpu73rguy Жыл бұрын
I’m not sad. I wish he would have leave the anime sooner (like, way sooner, after the Orange archipelago). He was not a good character and should have never stayed for so long. The manga had the right idea by switching up protagonists during each arc, meaning that even if some of them were duds, looking at you Emerald, X and Blato (Blatwo? I’m not even sure how this one is called in english), it was no big deal since they would be gone and replaced soon enough (same for Digimon I guess, since of the three seasons I watched, I always loved the cast).
@SunshineRey
@SunshineRey Жыл бұрын
I’ve been more of a Digimon fan all my life. I grew up with the original cast, then I watched them get replaced as the main cast, but I never fell out of love for them. When Last Evolution Kizuna came out, I didn’t watched it immediately but the thought of it was bittersweet for me. I was ecstatic for one final swan song from my favorite characters, but sad because this was the end of the characters I loved. After watching it, I balled my eyes out at the ending, but was happy because that meant the cast I watched when I was like 6 finally became adults and moved on with their lives for better things. It was a satisfying ending, even though 02 and tri were a bit messy and a reboot came out a bit later, I was blown away by the ending and all the emotions I felt because of these characters. If the same thing happens to Ash, (which it does look like they’re going to do for him) I think it can only be a good thing. (Also it might be a good idea not to think of this new season as a continuation of the anime, but the start of an entirely new series like how Digimon tamers is a new series than DM and 02)
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
do you forget how much the fanbase shits on the 02 kid
@shadowmarauder6033
@shadowmarauder6033 Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@SMCwasTaken
@SMCwasTaken Жыл бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 you're the fanbase so it's your choice
@Videoandme1
@Videoandme1 Жыл бұрын
I am fully in the camp of Liko being Ash's daughter. And I do love the aspect of Liko going to Paldea's academy to compete in the Treasure Hunt. The reason why Liko has the electric tera crystal could be a way to have Pikachu remaining in the series by having Ash give Pikachu to watch over his daughter, being an over-protective father figure.
@RaynmanPlays
@RaynmanPlays Жыл бұрын
If you've never heard the story of how Ahsoka became one of the most beloved Star Wars characters, you should look it up. They intentionally made her in such a way that fans would dislike her with the plan from the start that they would unravel and remake her while the fans watched. And it was an extraordinary example of how to introduce a new character into an established franchise. It would be kind of cool if they did something similar with this new character. Introduce her as everything the fans fear, then put her through trials that undo those traits and make her into a truly strong character.
@malachirodrigues3013
@malachirodrigues3013 Жыл бұрын
I wished he would have won the kalos league otherwise this would have been a hattrick of champions. Kalos, alola and galar Ash champion.
@darriusaustin7436
@darriusaustin7436 Жыл бұрын
No it was time for him to go. You can't really reset him after becoming the strongest trainer. I'm glad they are giving him a final pokemon master arc. He'll make cameos so he won't be gone forever.
@frathousemovies
@frathousemovies Жыл бұрын
Love the slight diss at boruto 😂
@Retro_skull
@Retro_skull Жыл бұрын
The new protagonists look terrible and I think that the anime is going to progressively get worse
@junaglacierz1929
@junaglacierz1929 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s a good idea to pass the touch to a new protagonist. Ash literally became a Pokémon master so to have in as a protagonist would be weird as he does have much goals after that. If he were the protagonist the Pokémon company would mostly likely would have to do another soft reboot or hard reboot which I know would disappoint a lot of fans. So I thinks it’s great for a new protagonists to be the new mascot of the anime.
@holty1314
@holty1314 Жыл бұрын
Now I can no longer use: “They replacing *x* that’s like replacing Ash”
@andyloretto1827
@andyloretto1827 Жыл бұрын
It's be great if they modified the Gold/Silver Red encounter as the big lead up to end this new series. Ash wouldn't be the dad, he'd be the ominous, ultra powerful trainer that the new protagonist must face at the end of the series.
@Tomouryu
@Tomouryu Жыл бұрын
So my question is "are they going to scrap Ash entirely or will he at least come back in some future episode as support for a while"? He the world champion so to remove him entirely is equivalent to denying Ash ever existed. They might as well be start a whole new show that has nothing to do with Ash's timeline.
@seawind930
@seawind930 Жыл бұрын
Well if Ash has finally got the EXP needed to evolve in to an adult it should be interesting to see what he does
@leduynguyen1000
@leduynguyen1000 Жыл бұрын
Nah, they just have to remove the everstone in his kidney and he will evolve in no time :)))
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
no way that’s not happening
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
i want him to stay at least 12 or 14
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
no way not as an adult as a teenager
@RetroCity97
@RetroCity97 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie as a 26 year old who’s been on this journey since the first time pikachu shocked ash to becoming champion to the celebration and if I have any opinion he may have become a Pokémon champion there’s still higher heights after that being a Pokémon trainer forever would stop future progress the idea of a new protagonist is like lure to unexpected plots if written write who knows ash might be like Cynthia a Pokémon classic for years to come you just can’t help but respect but greater because ashes wasn’t great he was the best and for many reasons
@evancoffland19
@evancoffland19 Жыл бұрын
Ash’s Pokémon journey is some thing that every Pokémon player wishes Game Freak could/would make.
@PissedGrunty
@PissedGrunty Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, it is long over due. If anything, he should have been replaced when Ruby & Sapphire rolled around for Brendan and May, then each couple of playable characters taking up the torch when a new generation comes out. Johto would have felt a little odd because of its sequel to Kohto status. That would give them 3 or 4 years to build up a character and have an arc over that time, compared to Ash never really being able to grow much. Then you could also do those episodes where the previous protag and their traveling buddies come back for a crossover, like say Super Sentai always does with its yearly change ups. I watched some of Boruto and I actually liked the character Boruto more than I liked Naruto for a long time. However, the problem is that he did the exact same things that his dad did, copy and paste, and far less interestingly. It is going to be important to NOT just like the new protag be just a clone of Ash. There is probably GOING to be a backlash though. Merely because the term "female protagonist" brings out lots of irrational hatred.
@TheMinecraftHype
@TheMinecraftHype Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see a fully fledged 'send-off' season... a victory lap of sorts. It could have been a great moment to not only tie up loose ends in a fuller manner (ie, evolving old team members, giving them a chance to shine as champion-tier mons), but also... *give Ash a new motivation*. He has been stagnant since XY. He peaked, and ever since, his path to become a master was sidelined (still a thing, but less so - Ash didn't really grow much... he just went through the motions). But as champion... now he could have a fresh new take. He is the best... surely an emptiness comes with that? What next? Remember Johto? Ash beat Gary and when his rival took a new path, Ash felt lost - until a new goal presented itself via Hoenn. So what could Champion Ash aspire towards? Red had catching Mew... perhaps for Ash... finding and besting Ho-oh, bringing it full circle? Okay maybe too much like that movie... but Mewtwo could work, or something else entirely. Pokemon works best with a *journey* (Sun and Moon and Journeys lacked that: the world felt small, and episodes aimless). Tldr: I wanted Ash going on one final prolonged journey, worthy of a Master. Maybe an arc of self discovery included: what does it mean to be fulfilled? As #1, does Ash aspire for more? Does he find a new passion? Gym Leaders help trainers to grow... what does Ash do next in life? Battle until overthrown? Mentor?
@InFiNiTeO7
@InFiNiTeO7 Жыл бұрын
Ugh, this is not even supposed to be a discussion. It's a fact. Ash is done, get over it guys, and accept the new characters.
@rockowlgamer631
@rockowlgamer631 Жыл бұрын
no we need fresh blood, I always wanted a new character for each season, Ash should've been done since Johto
@gelnart25
@gelnart25 Жыл бұрын
Though ash is not the protagonist in gen 9, I wish he still traveling especially new region. Wether he aged or not. He even still trying to catch pkmns.. doesn't mean he is a world champion he can't catch new one or travel to paldea..if he lose to someone, at least he uses new mons..and doesn't mean he lose, he is not pkmn master..i hope a cameo for him in gen 9 at least one episode just to see him still traveling.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
He gonna appear If Pokemon ex's third anniversary proved anything game freak isn't trying to bury him under the rug
@MilkysRevenge
@MilkysRevenge Жыл бұрын
Ash can't age he made a wish to stay young forever I think?
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@MilkysRevenge that theory tho
@MilkysRevenge
@MilkysRevenge Жыл бұрын
@Pain Ville gaming I mean I just want a character that ages 🤧 its weird seeing these ships with children even though ash has been Alive way longer than them
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
he could be at least 13 or 14
@your_god_lucifer2386
@your_god_lucifer2386 Жыл бұрын
Its actually about goddamn time. Had he not been 10 years old for the last 20 years it'd be a different story. Hell even a continuation. They already messed up by keeping ash as long as they did
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
he could be at least 13 or 14
@dorianpage9593
@dorianpage9593 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if he did went to Paldea and met nemona.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
Ash “....so this is how it feels like talking to me “
@DuRagRell_
@DuRagRell_ Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a mistake as long as the new character is as cool as he was, at the same time Goku has been the main character in Db forever lol. It is sad tho i remember watching Ash steal Misty's bike when i was like 8 lol
@MarioSonicDKPokeFAN
@MarioSonicDKPokeFAN Жыл бұрын
At first I didn't think it would ever happen. Haven't there been other anime protags that are still part of these ongoing anime series? But now that it's finally happening, I do feel some type of way. Was looking forward to seeing how they would handle him as a strong character, if they'll let him catch more pokemon then the usual 5/6 this generation, some of his older pokes finally evolving, what kind of 9th gen pokes will he have, etc. Now we'll never see that. I've been saying for the last couple weeks, will the new anime actually survive without the face (Ash), the mascot (Pikachu), Japan's popular trio (Team Rocket) and other past familiar faces?
@Raethecommoner
@Raethecommoner Жыл бұрын
I believe its no mistake. Imagine if Ash went to Paldea and lost a battle. People would be calling him a fraud, and having all of these high expectations for him. I believe that this will be a fresh new start and hopefully Lika, Rika, Riko, whatever her name is, can provide us all of the funny and epic moments that Ash and friends did.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
Alola handled op ash pretty well by literally having him only lose when Pikachu wasn't fighting And Pikachu first loss came when he battled a legendary
@Raethecommoner
@Raethecommoner Жыл бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 but you know this fambase. After a big win like that, man the anipoke fandom would be up in smoke
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@Raethecommoner am not against changing the protagonist being against trying to erase everything which some seem to desire
@AnonymousEnigma19
@AnonymousEnigma19 Жыл бұрын
It maybe a mistake, because they had ample chances to change protagonist throughout the Pokemon anime, they even try by showing the character known as Jimmy who was based on Gold the character from Pokemon Gold and Silver, not to mention other characters in one of them even battle Ash in the silver conference, and they all came from the special Legend of thunder I believe, I wouldn't be surprised if they brought that out as a test to see if they should change protagonist before Johto began, but I think it was shot down, for them to now do it after everything they put Ash through, by either dumbing him down or weakening Pikachu, and now they're going to finally change protagonist after all these years? It's why I say it maybe a mistake because can they create a character that was just as great or greater than Ash? That's the question, because at the end of the day it all came down to confidence, it's spinoff such as Pokemon mystery dungeons, Origin, and rescue rangers never had an abundance of episodes, because that's what it comes down to is their confidence in doing this, because they're having certain stories that blew because they change protagonist, and that's what worries me, not to mention that the story of scarlet and violet revolves around time-traveling you know that's hard to do in a story.
@symphonixblades
@symphonixblades Жыл бұрын
They can, Hisuain Snow only had 3 episodes and Alec was a good protagonist. Origins was all about Red from the games and he was a good protagonist. But yes I agree that they have to write the characters well
@Strangegloves
@Strangegloves Жыл бұрын
soo today on netflix i watched the very first episode........im even more convinced by the coma theory im sure hes gonna wake up in the last episode with everything being a dream, the fact he never aged, the sight of ho oh a pokemon that has bought life back before, the fact hes "died" so many times.
@Strangegloves
@Strangegloves Жыл бұрын
@@Wario1382 its my opnion im intitled to it thankyou....
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
he could be at least 13 or 14
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
@@Wario1382 what about bart simpson he never aged
@jedidude6358
@jedidude6358 Жыл бұрын
To anyone who says Ash leaving the anime is a mistake, ask yourselves do you want Ash do the same thing again despite being a champion? Do you want him to go back facing gym leaders? Do you want another stupid reset again like in BW? He has run his course just let him rest already. With that, I recommend them read the Adventures manga. It shows how focusing on a variety of protagonists helps to keep a story fresh and proves how keeping Ash in the anime only stagnates the show than it benefits it.
@JuanpiB3
@JuanpiB3 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to see Ash being a mentor to nemona or some other paldea character, exploring more of that facet of teacher now that he is world champion, teaching his techniques to others was a proposal that sounded more interesting than replacing him with 2 randoms that are very they are probably ash and goh 2.0 😒
@thetabbyguy921
@thetabbyguy921 Жыл бұрын
@@JuanpiB3 he can still do that without being the main protagonist.
@derrickrose4233
@derrickrose4233 Жыл бұрын
I'm still very sad to see Ash leave yeah i know it can be good a breath of fresh air but all those memories i have can't be explained in to words i will still try to watch the new show and when the final adventure of Ash comes now their will be tears i think😢😭😭
@kingbladerZed
@kingbladerZed Ай бұрын
definitely a huge mistake. If I were to bring Ash back, I would have some of the characters to be a bit realistic when it comes to his dream of being pokemon master being too vague. If I have to Age Ash, I would say 13-15 years old. Even if it means retconning Ash's status as world champion.
@greggceballos2611
@greggceballos2611 Жыл бұрын
The best way for this series to go is to start off the first half of the first "season" (around the first eleven episodes) to build the character of liko. Then, by the mid-season break, they will introduce something that can spark a theory on how ash is related to liko and maybe a mystery on why ash is missing. This can range from like Liko getting a pokeball of one of Ashes old pokemon that could be a part of his old gang or one he caught of screen during the time skip that has something of ash's.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
If the Pokeball thing happens it is either Charizard or greeninja
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@Donhimesama Daifutari game freak knows well it fanbase......on what planet Also who said the fan base would be angry to see ash again? Just because some idiots are like that doesn't mean the entire fanbase agrees Some people want Bruce Wayne to retire as Batman never gonna happen outside for a temporary reason So go ahead and bet the 1 million cause you're on
@greggceballos2611
@greggceballos2611 Жыл бұрын
@Donhimesama Daifutari Related is a broad word. Like in the video, one possibility is she is an ash Stan. Another possibility could be that Ash has been missing for years because of a McGuffin event Liko is just drawn to the mystery.
@amj.composer
@amj.composer Жыл бұрын
No it isn't. Ash was a terrible and boring character. Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed ash over the last 15 years, but the creators just made the anime incredibly bland and boring after a while.
@akashnadar1449
@akashnadar1449 Жыл бұрын
Yeah after the sinoh ash was peak ash in personality, even the Kalos Ash was quite dense.
@labo8719
@labo8719 Жыл бұрын
The biggest mistake I can think of would be getting rid of Ash completely. Make Riko the new main protagonist, maybe a fan of his from the World Coronation.
@ikaricyber5742
@ikaricyber5742 Жыл бұрын
How would she be ash daughter She is in a new region paldea which ash never have traveled to So if she is ash daughter that would mean ash traveled to paldea And a lot of more questions would riled up at that point
@chtal64147
@chtal64147 Жыл бұрын
Im curious for the new series, but I hope they will bring pokemon rangers back. I really liked that aspect and thought maybe that ash would take some kind of route after becoming world champion. Seeing how interested he was in the rangers and being a protector of pokemon would fit in with pokemon masters. We will see whats happen, until than Im gonna rematch the final battle
@SageOfHeaven
@SageOfHeaven Жыл бұрын
Those who have watched the latest new episodes will really notice if you are ready for Ash leaving or not. I think its like 12 episodes after 136 of journeys. They are a way of saying goodbye. Holy crap how hard the intro hit me, cause it was a collab of all the previous pokemon series, all his pokemon. You have no idea how it feels until you watch these episodes. You ain't ready for letting Ash go, I promise lol.
@purehyper124
@purehyper124 Жыл бұрын
Ash leaving is a big change but open up so much possibles and fresh new potential.
@Mgauge
@Mgauge Жыл бұрын
I think it's been long overdue. Ash has been stale for a long time. His personality is about as basic as it gets for a shonen because he's meant to be an eternal stand in for the target audience. He was only recently allowed to beat a league and had his goal left deliberately vague. It's been stalling the series for so long because they have to keep repeating the same old same old. It needed a big change to let the series grow.
@bacd-nn2lg
@bacd-nn2lg Жыл бұрын
Changing the protagonist for pokemon anime is the best decision that the anime writers had done since Ash won Alola Pokemon League. I also hope that Liko is not related to Ash since it would created more problems with the writing and character development. Ps. I hope that Roy will be Likos rival.
@bacd-nn2lg
@bacd-nn2lg Жыл бұрын
Just watched the first 2 episodes and the new anime is really good with the movie quality artstyle.
@andrewtodaro2874
@andrewtodaro2874 Жыл бұрын
You said what needed to be said about Ash leaving the anime. Pokémon got me into the medium in the late 1990s and Ash was my rock amidst the changing trends in other anime shows that have come and gone. With such a radical change, watching anime won’t quite feel the same. I hope The anime community officially puts Ash into the iconic anime characters pantheon alongside Astro Boy, Hello Kitty, Sailor Moon, Princess Lum, Totoro, etc.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 Жыл бұрын
I love ash but this needed to happen eventually. Now that Ash has become the world Monarch, there is nothing left that can top this incredible feat. It's time to move on to a new protagonist. Hope Liko and Roy are well written and nothing like the failed experiment that was Goh
@drunkenpumpkins7401
@drunkenpumpkins7401 Жыл бұрын
The fact is 8-12 year old kids are by far the most important demographic for the Pokemon anime by like 90% of watchers of the anime being kids. And we adults (or well, at least physical adults) are just there to come along the the ride these children enjoy. Thinking the adults watching Pokemon have a significant impact on ratings is downright delusional. And no, kids in these demographics don't care about an''iconic MC'' they just want a enjoyable show with Pokemon. Also, why have this discussion now despite not only 1 episode with the new MC being aired? This discussion can only be useful after at least 1 season with the new MC has passed.
@phoenixfrostgaming4850
@phoenixfrostgaming4850 Жыл бұрын
Nahh Ash leaving the anime is not a big mistake the thing is he's in the anime for 25 years and Beyblade left their characters too like gingka and tyson from Beyblade or bakugan etc etc it's good for a fresh new journey a fresh story and new amazing characters which will be good though I really want to see Ash as an adult with Serena though and also I will miss Ash😭😭😢😢
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
well i don’t i want him to be at least 12 or 14
@2Horrible
@2Horrible Жыл бұрын
We still didn't see Ash defeat team rocket once and for all. I personally think that there is still a lot you can do with ash.
@rossjones8656
@rossjones8656 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm excited for this. For the whole Ash being the father stuff... I would love it cause... 1. Ash can return temporarily from time to time and we get to see a new side to Ash. 2. This could provide an interesting story idea where she could be fighting against her nature as a battle and by extension her dad 'I don't see Ash being a good dad' and that would be a new direction for an MC. 3. Serena could be the mom and my ship would be true.
@ancient6676
@ancient6676 Жыл бұрын
What I am hoping for Liko is that she'll try all sorts of different things. Being a trainer and doing gyms and such will for sure be her main focus. But It would be nice for her to try out the other routes at times, not every maining the other options but at least giving them shots. It would be nice for her to be a character to be undecided on what she wants to do exactly wants to do, so she tries out all different things. General pokemon training will be her main focus and she wants to do well in the league system, but she is open to other pathways. Since you mentioned Boruto I might as well mention Boruto's sister Himawari who is a character in the same boat. She isn't entirely sure if she wants to be a shinobi just yet, and she is open to other career pathways.
@Techsar.-
@Techsar.- Жыл бұрын
@donhimesamadaifutari Naruto didn’t need to end, the boruto anime just sucks
@user-kl6kv7ii5s
@user-kl6kv7ii5s Жыл бұрын
@Donhimesama Daifutari gamefreak doesn't control the anime and they only make games, tv tokyo/olm is the one who controls the anime.
@CojaGamez
@CojaGamez Жыл бұрын
Its been 20 years, he has done basically everything. Its not a mistake to let him go
@thomascadieux2111
@thomascadieux2111 Жыл бұрын
The main reason this upset me, actually ISN'T because it means the End of an Era.
@thomascadieux2111
@thomascadieux2111 Жыл бұрын
It also means the End of an EarthBound homage.😢😢😢😢😢😢.
@thomascadieux2111
@thomascadieux2111 Жыл бұрын
cough-cough, Ash resembles Ninten and Ness. That was done on purpose, because Creatures Inc. was also the lead studio behind Mother 1&2.
@mariobenedicto3582
@mariobenedicto3582 Жыл бұрын
One thing that worries me... if you retire Ash from Pokemon, you kinda also have to retire his partner Pikachu... how would that work?!
@drunkenpumpkins7401
@drunkenpumpkins7401 Жыл бұрын
They just do it? It's not like people only watch Pokemon to see the yellow mouse. Yugioh managed to be fine after retiring some of its iconic characters and monsters, so why can't pokemon?
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@drunkenpumpkins7401 because yugi did hang around for over 25 fucking years ...also let bit act as if the show didnt take a massive blow when yugih left hell all advertisement now a days for any game is all around yugi jaiden didnt get a movie yugi did
@drunkenpumpkins7401
@drunkenpumpkins7401 Жыл бұрын
​@@painvillegaming4119 Rofl, so did Pokemon. In fact Yugioh and Pokemon both lost popularity after 2004. And you think children care about some protagonist sticking around for 25 years? Pokemon is a children cartoon, and 90% of the watchers are children age 8-12. Children will gobble the new show up if its decent. And the salty adults leaving won't make a impact.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@drunkenpumpkins7401 shit weirdly I doubt there on the same level I don't think we're even allowed to call the biggest franchise in entertainment to have ever fallen off Second, anything advertises about Yugioh no matter if it is a new movie or video game the one who there put in the middle is Yugi the only other show people seem to like is 5D And it is not even just them when it came to Digimon this haul decade was an advertisement of the original characters Also, where do you get those statistics what your source dude
@kuro-xcvi
@kuro-xcvi Жыл бұрын
I don't mind the anime taking the "Boruto route" if that's what is ultimately decided. Just don't screw it up. Make the new protagonist the main focus of the show and have Ash pop in on rare to help when it seems appropriate, but not overstay and overshadow her. If they choose to make Ash a champion figure like Leon, then that would be cool too. It would also make a lot of sense since Leon had a major impact on Ash's journey and Ash following a similar path to Leon's would pay homage to the previous series.
@scourgewatcher
@scourgewatcher Жыл бұрын
The mistake was how long it took.
@discordmodhunter
@discordmodhunter Жыл бұрын
i’m already shedding a few tears from ase leaving, but if team rocket leaves i’m balling my eyes out💀
@topiaz
@topiaz Жыл бұрын
i am so sorry to say it, but they're leaving too :(
@muckideen-swarray7487
@muckideen-swarray7487 Жыл бұрын
Either we keep Ash and let all his victories get dragged through the mud or retire him as the GOAT? Hmmmmmmmm
@vaporterra
@vaporterra Жыл бұрын
Yugioh moved on from Yugi Moto nearly two decades ago. Ash Vs Leon was his Yugi vs Atem moment. It’s time to move on.
@vickelibert5637
@vickelibert5637 Жыл бұрын
people need to remember ashes actor have been doing this for 25 almost 26 years (will be litterly a week less than 26 years who knows when they started actually recording lines). people have lives ya know. asking someone whos done this for almost half there lives to continue is a bit to much (shes 54 if your wondering).
@jacobwilliams1223
@jacobwilliams1223 Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect time to swap. Ash finally achieved his dream, he beat Leon and become World Champion. There was no where else for him to go and I think allowing him to bow out gracefully like this will make fans more receptive to the new MC rather than resent them,.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
If Gohan couldn't hold the torch I don't seem this be any different
@jacobwilliams1223
@jacobwilliams1223 Жыл бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 Gohan was a character who didn't like fighting taking over the role of a fighting manga lead. It was never gonna work which is why Toriyama pivoted back to Goku. Don't see the same thing happening here.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@jacobwilliams1223 Gohan was still a fan favourite not a new character introduced out of nowhere
@jacobwilliams1223
@jacobwilliams1223 Жыл бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 Which only means the new character is free for whatever story needed. As opposed to Gohan who just did not work as the lead of Dragon Ball due to pre-established character aspects.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@jacobwilliams1223 I don't think I have ever seen a brand-new main character in any media be well received
@aayushkhamitkar6208
@aayushkhamitkar6208 Жыл бұрын
It Is TOTALY A Mistake BRING ASH And PIKACHU BACK please Now
@TyroneTG3
@TyroneTG3 Жыл бұрын
She's not Ash's Daughter.......that's fan rumor. And personally I hope she isn't related to him at all!
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
i think that’s ash sister
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 Жыл бұрын
Hm, interesting, i can understand where you’re coming from, it’s still a pretty weird feeling isn’t it? to have Satoshi/Ash finally retire as the Protagonist? I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how things will go from here, let’s hope things goes well. Also, has the Final Episodes started already?
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
The first one just dropped
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 Жыл бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 I see.
@jasonbornot
@jasonbornot Жыл бұрын
If this new series with new mc flops than yes but I still expect him to make cameos
@Ironbanner12
@Ironbanner12 Жыл бұрын
Ash needs to take some rest
@theplatinumdragon1744
@theplatinumdragon1744 Жыл бұрын
I was sad at first but I have come to terms with ash leaving it’s time for him to pass the torch
@Tuturial464
@Tuturial464 Жыл бұрын
Only mistake, not bring back the greninja
@Indigo_Polarity
@Indigo_Polarity Жыл бұрын
Ash has been around for decades. He may have sentimental value being around for so long, but he wasn’t a particularly deep character when he was introduced and he’s only gotten flatter as time goes on. As familiar as he is, a fresh start is needed to give life back to the series.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
Superman isn't a deep character and people were fucking furious when they try to replace him Flat characters aren't a bad thing
@Indigo_Polarity
@Indigo_Polarity Жыл бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 Different universes. Different rules. Ash as a character has gotten stagnant over the years. Change is needed. Wrapping up his goals and sending him away is the way to go.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@Indigo_Polarity different universe- pretty sure it's on this planet when this happens Same thing people be saying about goku and Superman....about people who don't even watch or even ever like then to begin
@p3mcthedoor32
@p3mcthedoor32 Жыл бұрын
@@painvillegaming4119 The difference is that superman (as far as I know I'm not into comics) doesn't have a fixed goal. His objective has always been to help humanity and save the world from evil but that is where his story can work with more possibilities. Same with goku. He just loves fighting and keep getting stronger. Unlike Ash who has a literal end goal but all he does until this point is the same gyms catch new pokemon league reset in new region yada yada. It's repetitive, stagnant, no real progression happens for him until he won in alola which took 1000+ episodes which is more than the entirety of naruto, more than 10 times of fullmetal alchemist, and One piece told a good story that fleshes out its lore and characters over time unlike pokemon which to this day still has the depth of a kiddie pool.
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Жыл бұрын
@@p3mcthedoor32 let's face it depth nowadays means overly edgy characters People don't understand what depth even means
@jettobazookah8822
@jettobazookah8822 Жыл бұрын
Ash's journey was about to become Pokemon Master. He reached that goal so his story is over. I can imagine that he will appear in future seasons as the Pokemon Master and shows why he became champ.
@ineedpowers5151
@ineedpowers5151 Жыл бұрын
Whatt!! Dude Ash is not Pokemon Master Yet. He has a long Journey it's already stated by the makers of Pokemon. He became the Champion 🏆 after defeating Leon but he is not Master Yet.
@Tylersingh2003
@Tylersingh2003 Жыл бұрын
he could at least be 13 or 14
@drip_boolin
@drip_boolin 5 ай бұрын
nothing will hit harder than the old movies
@fitzytail896
@fitzytail896 Жыл бұрын
Ash needs to retire because it's was really frustrating during those Black and White days where has to relearn stuff he already knew and it really pissed me off that Pikachu got defeated by a Snivy that just had a new trainer. But its gonna be tough for the New Protagonist to fill Ash's role and I believe that the series is experimenting if this new Protagonist.
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