I do love that about Microsoft - they use what they build.

Hello. Both jira and azure devops appear to be phasing out on-premises solutions. As a consultant, I have noticed there is some concern (over security) in many organizations around this change. Hence, I think there is a real market for some solution on-premises. I am not saying that cloud-based is any less secure, I am saying the upper level management mindset is a hard nut to crack.

Like I wrote. How would I replace all the other necessary stuff? The build agents, the Agile Boards, Teams Integrations. Github would be a step down. Better to just fire the guys who push for this ;).

@@bretspencer you’re not making sense??

😆 Sorry, that was the question that was asked. Don’t worry, you are secure going this route for years to come.

You are welcome.

Thanks!

This is a good question to ask of any dependencies you take on. Specifically for Azure DevOps, Microsoft has shifted a lot of focus to GitHub to make it better than Azure DevOps. When you have two competing services that do the same thing from the same company, it is wise to evaluate if one is going to go away.

@@IAmTimCorey Except they do not (yet). Like Akeksander said, no boards no good Teams integration etc.

Thats just the nature of technology, eventually something better will come along. Just like skype came before teams. Azure dev ops origionated from visual studio TFS

Thanks!

For sure. For new projects, though, it is definitely something to heavily consider.

@@IAmTimCorey If they can tell me how to replace all the other items. There are no Agile Boards, no good integrations to Teams etc. Github would be a step down in this case.

I am glad it was helpful.

Microsoft bought GitHub and started to make it like Azure DevOps. They don’t need two systems that do the same thing. They also moved a significant portion of their Azure DevOps developers to GitHub.

@@IAmTimCorey MS Teams and Skype both are almost same but Microsoft is still running both with good support to Skype and enhancements in Teams

Good thing I didn't say it was going away.

@@IAmTimCorey Yeah, but the title made me nervous for exactly 5 minutes 😅

lol I bet.

Yeah, that wasn’t the best name. Tying it to Azure also confused people because they thought you needed to use Azure to use Azure DevOps.

You are welcome.

You are welcome.

That's a pretty good comparison. I hadn't thought of it that way, but I think you are correct.

Microsoft is maintaining both. There are a LOT of businesses using Azure DevOps. It won't go away (I don't think), and it will be something that is a useful skill to know. DevOps still has a better CI/CD process compared to GitHub Actions. With that being said, I'm leaning towards GitHub Actions because of the primary focus and the fact that GitHub is where the code already primarily lives.

They are working to add more of those features to GitHub.

For sure, but when starting a new project, the rule is to evaluate long-term outlook before undertaking a dependency.

Not sure what you mean. This isn’t about Azure as a whole but about whether Microsoft keeps Azure DevOps now that they have GitHub (which does the same things and which they are more heavily investing).

@@IAmTimCorey that makes sense now..

Wouldn't say obsolete. The better terminology is 'less useful'

Well Github was created 2008 so...

This is more about hardware than programming languages. C# changes every year, not just during major refreshes.

Agreed.

Visual Studio 2022 Community Edition is free and has excellent unit testing systems built-in. Intellisense and Intellicode are also top-notch. I would recommend you start there and really push them to the limit.

You are welcome.

Every cloud provider has concept called Secret Manager. If your cloud provider is GCP you can find specifically the term Secret Manager and store all your sensitive data in form of Key Value pairs. And then on initialisation of your .Net application you can retrieve that data (Keys) and add them to your application as a Singleton dependency. This way the keys are available throughout your application. Hope this helps.

@@riteshjoshi0413 correct that's what I Knew. But I wanted to ask the question in General. Actually I wanted to focus on the best way to keep sensitive data encrypted in terms of console or web apps.

Here is a video I did on securing connection strings: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKyelqxq3sy9XXk.html Basically, you cannot secure them fully for desktop apps (Console, WPF, WinForms, etc.) If you are hosting a site on a server, the server should be secured so having the connection string on the server isn't bad. However, if you can host it in Azure or something similar, you can use the Azure settings or Azure Key Vault to secure your connection string even further.

Like Tim said, the interface is maybe changing, but not the logic (the thinking process) behind it. If you achieve an Azure DevOps certificate, you proof that you has dealt with it and understood the principle.

Azure isn’t going away. Far from it. Azure is HUGE and expanding. Azure DevOps is one small feature.

Azure is growing at a really significant pace. I am pursuing the AZ-900/104/400 path and I am not stopping. I am actually even accelerating, because the more I learn about Azure, the more excited I get about it!

Shouldn’t be. We need to ask these questions all the time.

I wouldn't say that. You can still start with Azure DevOps. You just need to be aware of your options and all of the information. If you need boards, Azure DevOps is probably still the right choice. If you can live without them and are just doing issues, code, and deployment, GitHub is probably the way to go.

I like the word evolution here. I think that fits what is happening nicely. Systems and choices continue to evolve as we move forward. It is the nature of development.

You are welcome.

I personally use the Microsoft Surface Studio ( amzn.to/3JKay16 ). It has tons of power and can do everything I throw at it. The added form factors are nice, but I don't really use them often. Mostly I focus on just using it as a laptop (which works great).

Azure repos are a part of Azure DevOps.

@@IAmTimCorey OK thanks Tim

Which video?

Sure, it will be helpful if you will be working with DevOps environments.

​@@IAmTimCorey ThankYou Sir❤️ for your advice and your Valuable time.

They are options you can consider. I don't usually find them to be suitable to my needs anymore, but they still do fit a subset of solutions.

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And so is GitHub. Actions, Issues, etc. It isn't quite to the feature parity of DevOps, but it is closing in each day. Since that is the platform Microsoft is heavily investing in, it makes sense to wonder how long Azure DevOps will be around (since it isn't getting the same investment - in fact, quite a few of the DevOps developers have been moved to GitHub).

I don't think it will go away, but I do think it will be de-prioritized. The reason is because Microsoft bought GitHub. They weren't planning on that when they built Azure DevOps. Now that they have both, they have one more than they need. However, they will not abandon their customers, so they will maintain both for a while.

Bummer.

Wow, the new camera setup adds several pounds to him. He is in better shape than it appears here.

No, that’s not going to happen. First, there are very few unfixable issues. Second, a temporary glitch is not unfixable. It used to work so it will again. Third, why would you make that announcement? A developer’s job is to fix problems, not to declare them unfixable.

This isn’t a non-issue, it is one that should be asked when starting a new project. You should ask that if all of your tooling before starting. In this case, it might not be the answer you expect since Microsoft bought GitHub, made it do everything (or almost everything) Azure DevOps does, and shifted most of their developers from DevOps to GitHub. The feeling right now is that all new projects should probably use GitHub over DevOps.

Nope, I didn’t delete it and it isn’t in my spam section. Either it didn’t save or KZfaq ate it (I’m increasingly convinced they do that without asking me for some reason).

@@IAmTimCorey thanks Tim

Not sure what you expect to happen, but Web3 isn’t magically replaced DevOps.

@@IAmTimCorey No but Azure DevOps is centralised. We know where the data centers are in the world with Azure and AWS. Web 3 is doing away with centralised repositories and instead of having structured centralised pipeline deployments think about smart contract deployments (+front) automated. Having to choose a specific regional data center (close to you) because your customers want high speed access to your website, is old hat technology. A decentralised blockchain is just that, a DApp on the block as a node that can be accessed anywhere in the world with sharding and load balancing it would feel the same as if it was geo located a few blocks away from you.

You aren’t solving a problem, though. We don’t need a decentralized Azure DevOps. We don’t have to have geo-replicated build servers because our customers aren’t accessing them. We already have geo-replication for websites and databases. So you aren’t adding any value but you are adding complexity. That’s going backwards. Web3 is a solution looking for a problem.

This is a series called Dev Questions. The videos are questions devs have asked. This isn’t clickbait, it is a valid question (and one with an answer of (spoiler) yes). It was a good question so I answered it.

@@IAmTimCorey Don't worry Tim we all know that its NOT clickbait... He don't know how much favor you are doing for developer community. Thanks from India

oh boy...

The title definitely did get me to click. But I learned a bunch as well.

This is a series called Dev Questions. The videos are questions devs have asked. This isn’t clickbait, it is a valid question (and one with an answer of (spoiler) yes). It was a good question so I answered it.