I guess Garnt’s Breaking Bad complaint is “Can something be so good that it is bad”

I never thought Better Call Saul would get that praise, hype or dare I say, the meme status it’s gained this past year. I only saw the first season, and I never got around to watching the second season when it premiered. It’s mostly because I forgot all about it, it also didn’t help with the two or three year breaks it kept getting but it’s good that the entire Breaking Bad saga is flawless in every way.

8:10 Joey's pun got robbed of the attention it deserves I love Methaverse

I prefer Breaking Bad, but Better Call Saul is not far behind, this franchise is masterful in so many ways and it deserves all the praise it receives.

As meticulous and detailed the writing was in Breaking Bad, it’s incredible how many different routes it could’ve went. Like the most well known fact is how Jesse was supposed to be killed off in S1. BB and BCS couldve each went very different ways but we got them in their most perfect ways.

I simultaneously understand and don't understand Garnt's reasoning to why he doesn't like Breaking Bad.

what garnt is saying is so out of this world, conner is not even offended

sopranos, Vinland saga till farmland arc, 20th-century boys, Berserk up to conviction arc, cowboy bebop, monster, and Breaking Bad are easily the best media I have consumed.

Garnt is basically saying "it's so good it's bad". Literally Early 2010's Hipster energy right there.

I prefer Baking Bread over Bitter Coleslaw, tbh

garnt actually just argues for the sake of arguing, i swear he doesnt even believe what he says half the time

It's so hilarious that Garnt and Joey mention "Cigarettes" and "Coke-a-cola" as the two examples of powerful marketing because the series Mad Men literally book opens and book ends with those two products (Lucky Strikes and Coke)

Joey loves Monogatari, doesn't he? He would enjoy the dialogue of Mad Men, great writing all around

I love both personally but it depends what you want For a drama about a man who wants to provide for his family before he dies but evolves into a Drug kingpin breaking bad the way to go But if you want a law drama about an ex con trying to stay on the straight and narrow but evolves into a “criminal” lawyer with little to no morals because every time he tries to do good he gets screwed every time then Better Call Saul

Makes me so happy to hear such praise of Futurama. I love that show so much! ❤️

*_These be the discussions that truly matter hahaha_*

I will say, I didn't mind Gus's spanish, but when I heard him speak it for the first time I just thought, "why's his accent like that?"

Yeah, it absolutely is. Better call saul might be the best show ever made, it's fucking incredible.

Looking back at the series, the first season of better call Saul was the weakest and from there it got so much better What I liked is how the show did the same trick with the main character being bad from the start and I fell for it again because I like Saul But after the finale it’s kinda sad to know that this universe is finally over and after all that…a happy ending

Short answer: Yes.

Better Call Saul is so good, it is so good that for someone that rarely watch a TV Series like me, watch BCS and Breaking Bad, it's just that good. But because of the fucking memes, each time I watched BCS, every episode I'd say 'What does Vince Gilligan means by this?' or 'Bravo Vince! Truly one of the episodes in BCS!'

Theres an argument there that it could be breaking bad just doesn’t feel as personal to Gornt than anime, usually anime is based on a manga whose story is usually the vision of 1-2 creators where as better call Saul has a team of writers all bringing their own ideas and directors and actors. A live tv show can’t feel as personal because of how much people are involved

11:46 basically he'd prefer fire punch over chainsaw man

I will never forget the day my friend said Euphoria was than Better Call Saul. He wasn't even being sarcastic, the man straight up called the show trash.

To be honest I don't know what's worse , garnt take on breaking bad or joey refusing to watch arcane

Breaking Bad’s one flaw is the spanish in the show, any spanish speakers know that the spanish in the show is ATROCIOUS, totally takes you out of the show if you understand the language

Garnt's take is so bizarre because its like saying someone is way too good looking to be able to build any connection with However Breaking Bad universe is not like that at all, it has many flaws as well just not as noticeable Also the writers (etc.)put their whole soul, passion, blood, sweat and tears into this show that it's honestly insane, so you can feel the message, emotional connection and such through the perfectly nuanced characters and story

Better Call Saul is one of the best series ever dude. Enough said.

I get Garnt's take on Breaking Bad. When a show's approaching a point where there's no flaws that's holding it back and it's just almost universally agreed upon as good. You going into it as a critic can't even find much to flame it about. It's a lot more difficult for you to let it make a unique impression on you. One of my favourite games is Sonic Unleashed. But by many objective standards, it's a bad game (flaws and qualities listed at the bottom of the comment). Although, I still love the game because the good qualities it has are specifically aspects I love and look for in games, but also because all of the flaws don't really bother me in particular. When I sit down to play that game, I feel like I'm making a deal with it. Taking in the bad stuff so that I can enjoy the good parts. I feel more personally attached to it because many other people would just play many other games instead. Of course breaking bad shouldn't be more like Sonic Unleashed. But it's made me realize that flaws make it easier for some people to latch onto flawed works. And it's a bit deeper than "these people just don't like it because it's popular" Sonic Unleashed Flaws: A majority of the game is spent with a very non-sonic playstyle that's kinda shamelessly ripped off from other games. And in that other style, the soundtrack is constantly interrupted by the same battle theme for 90% of the levels. The controls and camerawork is shaky at times leading to unpredictable damage or deaths. The framerate at some points take a massive dump into powerpoint presentation territory. The tone of the story is super inconsistent with the tone of many cutscenes where one second the world's being shattered into pieces then the next you're chatting with locals about flowers and such. You have an obnoxious little imp flying and crying over your shoulder for most of the game. Qualities: The soundtrack fucking slaps. The daytime levels are very fun on repeat playthroughs. The level variety is amazing, taking good inspiration from real world locations. The texture and model quality is some of the best stuff in the entire sonic franchise, being comparable to frontiers (and it came out in 2008). Aside from the inconsistent tone, the story presentation is amazing when it comes to the final boss and everything leading up to that.

I enjoyed bcs more than bb because I got to see mike again. Having mike in that show was like the crème de la crème.

bro i also thought better call saul was shit. but trust me, give it another shot and you will be amazed. same thing happened with breaking bad for me btw had to give it another shot to realize how amazing it actually is

10:08 perfectly put.

Grant desperately trying not to sound like a contrarian with his hot take on Breaking Bad!

Thank you Connor, for doing BB and BCS justices

As a huge Breaking Bad fan, it's insane to go back to that show after finishing Better Call Saul. You catch glimpses of Saul's hijinks early on but it takes the entire series to see how he became the Saul we knew from Breaking Bad who did horrible things and protected horrible people. In Breaking Bad, Walt literally cooks meth and kills someone in episode one. With Better Call Saul's pacing and story telling, we would have watched Walt's home and work life for a season before he really even started considering cooking meth. To me, that's not a bad thing. The character development in Better Call Saul is insane and definitely surpasses Breaking Bad in that regard. Breaking Bad has been my absolute favorite show ever since I first watched it which is why Better Call Saul making me question my ranking is so surprising. The show is just so amazing. It's almost hard to separate them in my mind. The Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul universe is just the ultimate television experience lol

I'll take BB's ultra polishness any day of the week over GOT's flawed end.

love hearing anybody talk about futurama

I think one show can't be classified as "better", as it is essentialy an interdependant, cumulative experience. If you don't watch BB before, i'm sure the experience will be ok, but not as great as it is. The original works together to an overall enhanced experience.

Yes

I think what garnt is trying to say is that he didn’t really vibe with Breaking Bad but still recognizes it’s good

I completely get Garnt, I love breaking bad but couldn't rewatch it

Yeah, I heavily disagree with Garnt. I related and connected more to Breaking Bad and it's characters than 99% of anime, and I am a huge anime fan. Walter, Jesse, Saul, Mike, Hank etc are goated on a personal level. It's not just called perfect on a surface level. Also, Breaking Bad is nothing similar to the typical American TV shows at all. It's different and unique, so I don't really understand Garnt.

I believe breaking bad is clearly better but better call Saul is not to far behind and still one of the best shows to ever be made.

Man Joey's T look soo good fr 🥶

lowkey need to distinguish between BB and BCS... BB seems way more interesting than BCS to me. something about BCS never interested me but BB I could watch over and over again

I think Connor forgot to mention Mad Men starts in 1960. Also it was not the top agency but a boutique one where they do not exist anymore. There is a few other nuances missed but hey ho.

idk, better call saul about it

I'm just here watching The Wire

This is one of the most bizarre takes I have ever heard. To be honest I don't think he's actually watched the show or at least not much of it.

Ok simply put Garnts take on Breaking bad can be chocked up to him preferring anime as a medium overall. In general he needs the animeisms the tropes and short form simple consumability of anime

I like the coffee episode too

For me personally Breaking Bad has better story and pay off but it was a show very much carried by Bryan Cranston. He made the show go from good to great by his performance and corruption of a character. Everyone else is good but I don't think they kept up with him. While Better Call Saul story gets fuddle by the end and fizzles out. I think its the more entertaining show to watch and rewatch because they went out of way to add more depth. But more than that the show is carried by its 4 to 5 main characters that step up to plate to make them so enjoyable to watch their lives unfold. From Jimmy, Kim, Nacho, Mike, Gus just do wonderful job breathing life into them to be so much more and even the side characters were phenomenal. So while I think BB is better show I prefer BCS.

You know, I don’t wanna sound pretentious, but I can pretty much fucking guess what Garnt mostly consumes or what his tastes in film/television are if he thinks Breaking Bad is “too perfect” to the point that an AI must’ve made it. Once again, affirming why this podcast is called Trash Taste

There are both amazing, but i preffer BCS.

Since you guys like Futurama - I'm just putting it out there that you should watch venture bros

Definitely because it has no skyler

It’s like this. Better Call Saul would not work that well without Breaking Bad, but BB is still a masterpiece in the world without BCS. However, in our timeline where both exist, BCS improves BB by at least two times, meaning it has just as much value as BB if not more, but only if you watch both.

Yes it is but thats comparison between a 9.8 to a 9.9 better call saul is not perfect but its made by the same people as breaking bad with added years of experience so of course it was gonna be better kind of like how the sandman comics are fantastic and the tv show is somehow better cuz it was made by the same writer of the comics with decades of experience added

Donuts

I'm still waiting for bcs s6 to hit Netflix but unless its gets beyond amazing in s6 I can't possibly imagine it being better than BB based on the 5 seasons I've watched, the first few of which were actaully boring by BB standards. Still good just not on the same level

I guess I can relate more to garnt... I saw breaking bad twice, I think its good, but thats about it... I really don't like the characters that much. Saul on the other hand... I can't think of a single bad charakter or episode. It may be slow, and yet it kept me coming back (unlike BB...). So, is Saul better than BB? Yes, yes it is. In every aspect.

It's is the 9 seasons TV series.Why do you need a comparison?

Think garnt is saying its great but has no character which I remember thinking when I first watched it as a teenager. Watching better call saul as an adult I feel a lot of character. I wonder if I would feel the same now

didnt john hamm kill someone?

I don't hate arcane. I refuse to watch it on principle because its roots started with Pendragon.

Yes.

Giancarlo Esposito was fantastic in BB as Gus, but yeah, he has an Italian dad and an African American mum. Even as a non-Spanish speaker, I can tell he's slowly phonetically pronouncing the Spanish, once you concentrate on it, it sounds bad. But I still thought he was great. I also probably prefer Better Call Saul, up until Lalo and the Germans turned up. I found Lalo a really annoying supervillan. Howard's death was a lazy end to a brilliant character that they should really have done more with. Season 5 was a bit of a bust, and the first half of season 6, but it finished strong. Would have liked more of the black and white flash forward Jimmy/Gene story overall, and more callbacks to Jimmy with Chuck. The relationship between Jimmy and Chuck was so rich and emotional, the bit where they sing The Winner Takes It All gives me goosebumps. Once Chuck was out of it, I think it lost a lot of what made it great.

I'm not yet done with BCS, but it doesn't seem better than BB.

Skylar isnt in better caul saul so it wins by default

Same. I feel no emotional attachment to Breaking Bad. Unlike with True Detective or the Wire

It is because it’s more accessible

“Is Better Call Saul better then BB?” Lol!!!

I'd say they were comparable (Breaking bad wins for the action, Better Call Saul wins for the character drama), until the final few episodes. BrBa's finale was a hundred times better than BCS's finale. Also, I do not think Lalo is nearly as great an antagonist as some make him out to be. Gus was so much better.

Gotta continue BCS Is it really better?

i think better call saul is good. i dont think its better than breaking bad. the best parts of better call saul has to do with returning characters and seeing storyline that adds to the original stories or characters as well as see what happens to saul after breaking bad

well it is breaking bad

I can tell why Garnt has zero attachment to Breaking Bad because he is an Isekai fan. In my opinion, Breaking Bad isn’t the type of show that I’d get into unless I see the context. Even the pitch meeting says that an event when said out loud doesnt sound cool like: Walt gets a guy to say his name or Gus gets killed by a guy in a wheelchair

Its better yes

I think Better Call Saul is an excellent show but I can't help but think how iconic and memorable every single episode of Breaking Bad was. You can show me a single scene from Breaking Bad and I could tell you exactly what happened in that episode, but a lot BCS has faded from my recent memory. Also many of the best characters from BCS are just holdovers from Breaking Bad.

Call Saul is Better, Breaking is just Bad

breaking bad is the ONLY good america tv show so weird that garnt would actually mistakenly think it's in any way similar to american tv generally, it really isnt

Breaking Bad is definitely a cut above the rest, but it and BCS also have a lot of slow moments where I was on my phone.

Yes. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

Breaking Bad was good....until I discovered The Wire, Deadwood, Mad Men (AMC), Rome and Sopranos. Early HBO shows were IMO untouchable, just on a totally different level.

Not even close. Even tho BCS is very good, BB is a Masterpiece.

short answer: no

You think people understanding the importance of advertising began in the '50..? (I love it when Gen X-ers discuss social history. 😅)

Short answer- No. Also, for the me, the show ended with the best episode- the season 5 Finale (Lalo’s Mansion). It was on paar with Breaking Bad best episodes. Season 6 is subpar and the final is all anti-Saul Goodman and all pro Kim. Kim got out way too easy after all the schemes and indirectly causing Howard’s death.

It’s wild that this is even a discussion. I personally never thought BCS was anywhere close to BB. Wait till the hype dies down for people to get a perspective on it, because as of now people are definitely being a prisoner of the moment.

Arcane has no business being there

arcane fans are so annoying. at this point i'll just never watch it

I dont get both Shows. why would you start selling drugs just because your mum has cancer? There is just no connection. same with Saul. how would you have to care about money when you are an Independant lawyer? Its a totally unbelievable scenario.

I haven't watched much of either but I remember waking up to my friend watching better call saul and after like 2-3 episodes literally nothing happened, seemed really boring.

I get what Garnt means, it's too sanitized and so hard into realism that it lacks emotion, when something gets too "real" it's boring

No. It is not. Better call saul isnt a bad show, but its not comparable to breaking bad

havent seen better call saul. not interested in a scuffed lawyer slice of life story.

I'm there with Garnts breaking bad complain. I'd argue that he doesn't want shows to feel super polished, but for there to be roughness. It's like seeing the Yankees win the championship. You don't hate it, but you'd prefer to see something else