Is Bigger Better?? An E-flite Carbon-Z 2.0m T-28 Trojan Review

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Is Bigger Better?? An E-flite Carbon-Z 2.0m T-28 Trojan Review

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The RC Geek

Күн бұрын

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@lw216316 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great review Chris. With mine on full flaps and low throttle I could fly by like a blimp. She does really good aerobatics as you mentioned. The bright yellow and big size may be helpful for those who have eyesight restrictions or orientation issues with small planes.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Very true!

@antoninocorso4051 4 ай бұрын

Grazie mille

@Airsally Жыл бұрын

The big E-flite birds are very nice. Still enjoying your old 150 in Iron eagle trim. Nice flying T-28. I flew one of the V-1 28's when they first came out. You can't go wrong with a T-28.

@parodyverse Жыл бұрын

Awesome video Chris, I love the style you got going on for the plane reviews. I have the older T28 CZ and I wish I knew that tip about the connectors sooner. I'm doing it by matching the tags on the connectors one by one. Keep up the good work on your channel.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@leozengy Жыл бұрын

Nice review Chris. Yes, bigger does fly better

@airhammer6203 Жыл бұрын

I like the connectors. The plane is great too ;-). Good stuff Chris, AH..

@s.w.warbirds4126 2 ай бұрын

Painted mine yellow 6 years ago love the yellow ! This plane for me is one of the best flying planes ever , I have 2 new in box incase of losing one so that I will always have a C Z T-28 !

@Thercgeek 2 ай бұрын

Agree, this is an absolutely fantastic flyer!

@Grossman2868 Жыл бұрын

I kind of hoped that with this plane coming and going out of stock for years that there would have been some improvements on it. Better gear and single plug connections as you did on yours. I remember seeing this bird years ago, even though is a great airplane, it's due for an upgrade.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

I hear you.

@mrvoyagerm 6 ай бұрын

While I was disapointed to find the gear struts were just wire, and as you mentioned the wiring is prehistoric compared to other aircraft I have, after I saw three at our field fly beautifully for three different pilots and along with all the videos extolling the fabulous flight characteristics I had to have one. All that aside, it is the design of this model, the moments the simplicity and the grace of it that sold me. I have already upgraded the struts and the wiring and will likely upgrade the ESC as well as it is borderline adequate. All this will be done by the time this aircraft arrives at the field in the spring.

@copternutFPV 3 ай бұрын

That underbelly shot of the retracts was fire 🔥!

@easystar123 Жыл бұрын

Great video and great plane. Well explained and well presented. I have the older red and white t28 and I'm still flying it 8 years later. I bought it in 2015 and its never gave me any trouble so far. Hope you enjoy your T28.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Many thanks!

@Hughejazshole 7 ай бұрын

Man, that took off in about 10 ft! Love it.

@briankeirns9936 Жыл бұрын

Great video as usual. One of the things I enjoy most is how you fly scale. Slower control movements, realistic takeoff and landing. Great flying all around

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jamesbrown7758 Жыл бұрын

Cool video Chris! I’m a fan of the CZ T-28. Not really digging the yellow paint scheme though. Would be nice to see some spring loaded retracts at that price point. Then again, it’s always fun to do upgrades to personalize it. Thanks again for another cool informative video! Should be able to make it out to the field on Memorial Day. Hope to see you there!

@Norminal1 2 ай бұрын

Awesomeness. I have the tini trogan. You’re making me want one.

@easystar123 Жыл бұрын

I have just received the thunderbolt connectors and they make things a lot simpler. I wouldn't have known about them only i saw this video. Many thanks.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

So glad it was helpful!

@papasplanes.956 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great video. And thanks for the links. I am buying this plane and definitely getting the softer tires and the wiring harness.

@jcb6713 Жыл бұрын

nice flight ! hope you've gotten settled in and enjoying the area...👍

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Mostly settled now I think and loving where we are. 😊

@HenryL161947 Жыл бұрын

Very nice video never heard of the thunder connectors,also a scale prop would be nice 😅

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Adding a 3blade prop would be pretty easy. I’ll probably look at swapping it out at some point.

@iansummers6945 Жыл бұрын

Yeah another great review Chris Nice touch with your wiring connectors, wiring can get real messy with some of these planes with all the options.

@IceMan2035 Жыл бұрын

Nice Big Bird at least that's what I'm painting for the pilot name. I agree they should have added a front nose door for the price. Still a great flight and video.

@flyboywbl Жыл бұрын

Oh man, I'm so excited for the Legend Hobby one.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

You and me both! I’m really hoping I can do a review of one. It looks so dang good!

@flyboywbl Жыл бұрын

@@Thercgeek I went RED(orange?)/white. RCGF 40cc with scale exhaust. Sierra scale exhaust as well. I'm so excited. Pre ordered the Corsair too. No I may never build my Top Flite Giant kit, lol. I should just sell it.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Whoa, awesome!!

@topfuelie 2 күн бұрын

Great flight. Just got mine and the connectors you suggested. Plan on maidening it this weekend. Question, what camera do you use on the plane? Video really looks good.

@Thercgeek Күн бұрын

Awesome! The onboard cameras are runcams amzn.to/3X4gIke

@shownuff891 Жыл бұрын

I still got the original , with original in unreliable landing gear and all 😢. But with that being said it’s still an amazing volume (for those who love bigger). To piggyback off you they definitely needed to make quick connect as part of the bird and to make it one step better I wish they had a quick wing connect with no screws like the new Cougar from motion RC … we can only dream … oh can you share where you bought your connect for the wings … thx

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Yes, there is a link in the description. 😊

@mikeanddeepetrillo5602 9 ай бұрын

Great review, I will have to save for this one.

@Thercgeek 9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@2_hottieScotty Жыл бұрын

🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻😯😯😯😯🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I’ve chased around a few T-28’s, and a few of those larger Carbon Z cubs… would be so cool to chase a giant T-28!!! …, gonna have to share this video with the locals, and uh…, see what happens; maybe somebody around here gets one 🤪😁

@user-ks1ez8fw6f 4 ай бұрын

That is beautiful! And excellent video. I have a large Carbon Z Cub that I want to fit with cameras. May I ask which cameras you have mounted on the plane in this video? Thank you!

@Thercgeek 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! I’m just using runcam’s for the onboard captures. amzn.to/4aLTmpg

@fd2237 Жыл бұрын

Great review Chris! I have one on the way. I am thinking of painting an alternative scheme, to avoid the "school bus" effect. A couple of questions: How much does she weigh, what's the prop size and the wheel size and are those 3 or 4 wire multi connectors that you are using? Thanks!

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I couldn’t tell you the weight offhand and I won’t be able to weigh it for a couple days unfortunately. Prop is a 14.75x10 and yes, I used a 3 and a 4 wire connector (link in the description).

@cooltube 7 ай бұрын

Hi Chris, I’m going to order some of these multi wire connectors for mine but you say you used a 3 and a 4 connector yet I have 4 connection coming from each wing. Am I missing something maybe? Cheers Dave👍🏻🇬🇧

@johnw5734 Жыл бұрын

That's a way cool aeroplane. The slow passes are magic.

@Suavu Жыл бұрын

The Trojan is amazing. Super great for the price too.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

It flies so nice!

@mikeb949 Жыл бұрын

Which TBOLT connectors did you use?

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

I have a 3 and a 4 connection in there.

@CptDallas Жыл бұрын

@@ThercgeekNot.. what he asked.

@taylor818e6 6 ай бұрын

Hey Chris, thanks for the reply! Just a couple of more of you don’t mind: what is the largest motor that you can put on the Trojan? Lastly, my grandson’s Apprentice to a nose dive yesterday and broke the motor mount. I got removed the bad one having to cut the plastic to get it off because the wires go through a hole in the mount. The problem is the wires are hard wired into the ECS and I don’t want to mess with it. So I want to cut the wires, feed them through the mount and install some quick connectors to reconnect the motor. Is that good solution! Thank you, Anthony Also, that Trojan will be his second plane, he’s nine!

@taylor818e6 6 ай бұрын

Hi Chris, great video! Looking into getting one, just a few questions. 1. Is there a motor upgrade 2. What’s all the noise when taxing? Sounds like the wheels are coming off Thanks, Anthony

@Thercgeek 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, there are lots of options for different motors for this. The eflite power 60 or something similar would be a good place to start looking. What you’re hearing on the taxi is just the really hard stock tires. They make a lot of noise. 😆

@taylor818e6 6 ай бұрын

Hello Chris, what are your thoughts on a 3 blade prop. Saw a video of one and it looks and sounds really cool.

@Thercgeek 6 ай бұрын

I put a 14x9 3blade prop on mine and it works pretty well. I’d like to try a little bigger one on it though to test the power system a bit more though.

@taylor818e6 6 ай бұрын

Hello Chris, what would you recommend as the largest motor you can put in the big yellow Trojan? Thank you, Anthony

@Thercgeek 6 ай бұрын

Well, It’s all dependent on how many cells and what prop you want to run. What prop you wanting to run?

@detonator5000 6 ай бұрын

Do you use th 6" por the 12" Version of the TB-Connectors in your plane ?

@Thercgeek 6 ай бұрын

I used the short ones because there was already a lot of excess wire at the wing.

@karelgriessl6550 11 ай бұрын

Hi, for flap deflections, you write elevator compensation of 10 and 18%. However, I use a different RC kit. Can you tell me how much the deflection is in millimeters? Thank you very much for your answer.

@taylor818e6 6 ай бұрын

Hey Chris, forgot to ask what paint do you use on EPO foam? Thanks, Anthony

@Thercgeek 6 ай бұрын

You can use pretty much any type of paint on epo as it’s extremely resilient to solvents. I have a huge list of my favorite finishing tools and paints on my website here: www.thercgeek.com/finishingresources

@gstar1309 Ай бұрын

Hi Chris, would you suggest this for a second plane after a trainer. Thanks

@Thercgeek Ай бұрын

This would be a really good choice, but probably worth enlisting some help with the initial setup and flights.

@taylor818e6 5 ай бұрын

A video I saw used a 15x8 three blade. Thank you for your help. Where do you call home and if you don’t mind me asking. Anthony

@Thercgeek 5 ай бұрын

Nice! We live in the Nashville area.

@ES130853 6 ай бұрын

Der Flieger ist super. Aber der Kabelsalat aus den Flügeln ist immer wieder nervig. Muß das sein?

@autogyro333 7 ай бұрын

Hi, "balsa flyer" here. I have a question, what are the benefits of a foam plane compared to balsa and ply? I have never flown a foamy and for some reason I don't want to, maybe it's just ignorance hence the question.

@Thercgeek 7 ай бұрын

Ultimately I think it boils down to manufacturability. At the smaller scales, foam is less expensive to produce in mass compared to balsa. They are extremely good flyers usually with much better durability compared to balsa. That said, a well designed rigid balsa airframe does tend to track a bit better in flight.

@heyjackfpv5469 7 ай бұрын

great review, do you know a good struts /gear mod replacement for this plane ? something that fits the stock retracts ?

@Thercgeek 7 ай бұрын

Are you wanting struts and retracts? Or just struts?

@heyjackfpv5469 7 ай бұрын

better struts that fit the original retracts or do you know of a better upgrade for everything ? @@Thercgeek

@Turq66 3 ай бұрын

Dear the rc greek, I have a question. I have never flown before, but I have always loved RC planes, so I started looking for a plane that suited me and in the end I was helped well by an employee and I gained my experience on a Carbon Cub S2, I fly this plane both with safe and without safe optimally, so I want another plane and fly with it for about 4 months, everything is going well. So I'm no longer a beginner in my opinion :) I have 2 aircraft in mind, 1 of which is the Draco 2.0m and the other is carbon Z Trojan T-28, which of the 2 would you choose after the carbon Cub S2? please help!! :)))

@Thercgeek 3 ай бұрын

If you are looking at a choice between the two, then my recommendation would be the t28 all day long. It’s a much nicer flyer than the Draco imo and more aerobatic too.

@Turq66 3 ай бұрын

@@Thercgeek how long is the max flight time with the t28? Thank you :))

@capnhardway 11 ай бұрын

Love it, A bit big for me lol awesome ❤

@mikenowland2739 3 ай бұрын

G’day Chris. Which thunderbolt connectors did you use ? The 3 or the 4s. ? Cheers mate 👍🦘

@Thercgeek 3 ай бұрын

I used a 3 and a 4 plug.

@mikenowland2739 3 ай бұрын

@@Thercgeek Thanks 👍

@lancegrey1225 Жыл бұрын

Nice model. Does it COME WITH the CAMERAS ?

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

It does not come with any cameras. The onboard cameras I used are runcam2’s I got from Amazon here: amzn.to/3OIhIb9

@hechtspeed Жыл бұрын

Noice! I just wish the damn things were in stock lolol

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think they should be back in stock soon?

@hechtspeed Жыл бұрын

@@Thercgeek june supposedly. Was may. Lol

@reckemroysrc3764 Жыл бұрын

@@hechtspeed I got one. 😊 love it

@short5stick Жыл бұрын

They could have made this plane so much better using alloy shock landing gear like the Jets do and use a good decent paint that doesn't smear off like the Cessna 150 red one did

@briansutphin4180 Жыл бұрын

shorten your servo leads.... that is quite a bit of extra weight that you're hauling around that can be removed easily and improve performance.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

I hear you, but honestly we’re talking maybe 1-2oz at most in an airplane that weighs many lbs and the airplane doesn’t know the difference. In this case, the simplicity of just having 2 connectors to plug in vs the otherwise 8 is more desirable for me. It’s a large model that’s kind of awkward to handle and these really help simplify assembling the airplane at the field for me.

@M4rkmcc21 11 ай бұрын

On a 2m plane? Come on. Even on a 800mm plane that extra wire is negligible

@briansutphin4180 11 ай бұрын

@@M4rkmcc21 every little bit helps the performance of the plane.... the more weight you save the better it'll fly....

@gstar1309 Ай бұрын

What motor is it running?

@Thercgeek Ай бұрын

This newer version runs a Spektrum Avian motor. Not sure kv offhand.

@robertchapman7773 11 ай бұрын

Hi Chris I have been looking for this bird for a little while now. Finally located one and it is on its way. After watching your review I ordered the connector sets. They should be in next week too. I do haveone question. The sales ads recommend 5 to 8 channels for the tx. How many did you end up using and what for. Thanks Bob

@Thercgeek 11 ай бұрын

I’m going from memory, but I’m quite certain that I’m only using 6 channels. It’s been a while since I’ve flown the model, but I can’t think of an additional function at this point.

@robertchapman7773 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Chris.

@ts-ks6zf 10 ай бұрын

If you get the PNP version with 637T you need (7) to control ASX On/OFF and safe with a 3 position switch

@robertchapman7773 10 ай бұрын

ThanksTS . I actually got the BNF version. It was the only one in stock in Ontario Canada. So 7 channels it is then. Cheers for all the input. Bob

@sebastianarias7042 Жыл бұрын

Is the length more than 3 ft? From pov it looks pretty big.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Yes, it’s quite a bit longer than 3’. Closer to 6’ 😉

@steelrainfpv3383 Жыл бұрын

Personally I think Eflite missed the mark on this one due to it's size and difficulty in transportation, which has made me pass on this model. If they would have invested some time and money in engineering a quick disconnect wing, or even a three piece wing like the Focke Wulf, then I'd already have this model in my fleet and hangar.

@reckemroysrc3764 Жыл бұрын

I agree 💯 percent. But keep dreaming probably the worst part of this is the wing connection wires 4 per side I'm getting the same style connectors Chris used to make that a simple task

@steelrainfpv3383 Жыл бұрын

@RECKEM ROYS RC Those connectors will definitely come in handy and make things a lot easier, but unfortunately the screws holding the wings on, and their receptacles in the fuselage will eventually wear out and fail over time, which has happened to me with two different warbirds so far. I really think the way forward to make transportation and assembly easier in these big models, is the three piece wing with quick attachment and detachment points, such as with the Eflite Focke Wulf and the Draco in their lineup.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

I hear you on the 3 piece wing. That would be ideal for this airplane and simplify the transport and field assembly as well. Still an awesome model though imo.

@reckemroysrc3764 Жыл бұрын

@SteelRainFPV well you definitely have a solid point. I have the 1.5 p 51 with the 3 piece wing and it's definitely the way to go super simple.

@HenryL161947 Жыл бұрын

Have an rc friend. Did not know he was a full size airplane pilot During the conversation He mentionef the best flying airplane he ever flew. Was a 747 So i geuss that bigger is indeed better

@Norminal1 2 ай бұрын

Bigger is always better

@MultiSkyman1 Жыл бұрын

Chris, which Tbolt connectors do I order? 2 or 4 connector size?

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

I used a 3 and a 4 on this.

@MultiSkyman1 Жыл бұрын

@@Thercgeek Thanks.

@USNVA11 Ай бұрын

For the price point it needs better retracts and wiring.

@mofamba Жыл бұрын

$700 is a bit steep for a foamy.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

I hear you. That’s all relative really as the value depends on what someone is looking for and what’s important to them, you know?

@RAW00815 Жыл бұрын

Totally worth it. It would be better 50 EUR more, better gear, better servo horns (these are a joke), quick cable connector, better prop and more AMP ESC.

@meazy451 7 ай бұрын

The profit margin is huge

@tennriverluver3534 Жыл бұрын

It kills me that for the price they don't include a 3 blade prop. Simple swap yeah but why have to do it?😕

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

I understand.

@stephenrout9025 Жыл бұрын

bet the noise landing gear is bad on grass

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

I think it would probably do just fine. It has nice big tires, so that helps a lot.

@sanexup1038 Жыл бұрын

Can you hand launch it?

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

No clue and I’m not willing to try. 😆

@sanexup1038 Жыл бұрын

@@Thercgeek I was joking but I think it could probably be done. Maybe not without sacrificing a rotator cuff though!

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Haha, I wasn’t sure if it was a joke or not. Hard to tell sometimes. 😆. Just get Nolan Ryan to toss it for you, should be the perfect heater needed. 🤣

@rafaeltorres2886 Жыл бұрын

I agree it's over priced, for a foamie , foam is very cheap to produce. more than 700.00 with tax and ship.

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

Honestly, the value depends on what someone is looking for and what’s important to them, you know?

@short5stick Жыл бұрын

For the price of this kit they should have been aluminum shock landing gear. No reason they shouldn't have done that. The weight wouldn't be that much difference

@Thercgeek Жыл бұрын

I hear you, that would have been nice. All those things add up in price though, you know?