They need to release the digital, 4k and bluray at the same time and let US show you what sells more.

I like 4K for westerns, older black and white films, and sci-fi but I wait for a sale.

I’m hooked on getting the BEST PICTURE/AUDIO in my physical media collection. I wish I wasn’t like that..because my wallet would have more in it. BUT! Over the years, blu ray’s have really stepped up in their transfers. I was watching one of my 4k’s over the weekend and decided to look at the blu ray to compare it. There wasn’t much different. I mean-there was a difference because I was looking for the difference..but if I hadn’t, I don’t think I’d have noticed a difference.

For me, an upscaled Blu-ray on a QLED 4K TV using a Panasonic 820 is almost indistinguishable from the 4K disc. Yes HDR does make a small difference but I still enjoy my BD collection and see no need to upgrade all of them to 4K

I wait 6 months to a year if I want it on 4K. If I am not overly concerned, I just pick it up on blu.

The Blu-ray is just fine. You don’t need the 4k release, especially if there isn’t one. It’d be pointless to wait for it. In the end we’re in it for the movies not the releases. Just buy the movie if you’re interested in it.

Bluray is just fine for me. 4k is too expensive, so I don't really care about 4k. Just getting a physical release is the important thing.

Blu-ray is great and in many cases it can look just as good as a 4k release. If I have the option I'll buy the 4k/blu release over just a blu-ray. I cannot watch dvd's anymore, but blu's are great.

I have a low end TV so I don't notice any difference. I'm fine with Blu

You can wait or if you're like Ken, you'd probably buy both. These studios know people like Ken are suckers and will double dip. Release a special edition slip and they'll triple dip.

Blu-ray is completely fine, especially for new movies. The difference between Blu-ray and 4k for newer movies is minimal. 4k is better for older movies.

Honestly for a big studio release like this I just reserve it at our local library. I have both Challengers and Abigail on hold. I’m number 62 in line for Challengers, but there are 26 copies in the system, so my wait will only be a few weeks. Abigail will take longer as I’m at 42 in line but there are only four copies. That doesn’t bother me as I have a bunch of others on hold and the pile of 4Ks I’ve purchased over the last few months. If I love any of the movies I picked up from the library I’ll go ahead and purchase once the 4K comes out. Thanks for the great video.

The only thing I have to say to add to this conversation is, if I do buy a 4k movie I expect it to have a blu ray as well. Very disappointed if it doesn’t!

Yesterday I rewatched One Eyed Jacks Criterion blu ray. The transfer is so crisp, the colours are so vibrant I could easily believe it's a 4k disc. A goos blu ray restauration is more than good enough.

Turbine in Germany are doing a 4k of Abigail so maybe a steelbook or mediabook

I feel like most modern movies look great on bluray. I do feel that studios try to play it safe and just release bluray and dvd because they sell the most.

The Abigail blu-ray is solid. Slip, quality case, good picture and no digital nonsense. Movie is overhyped, but universal did a great job with it.

I bought Abigail this past Thursday first time watching and loved it!!!!

I bought the challengers Blu-ray, wasn't disappointed. I really liked the slip cover I want to pick up Abigail.

I think it depends on the quality of the Blu ray and special features

I am absolutely waiting for Abigail in 4k.

I Need a Challengers 4k. One of the best visual/audio experiences I’ve ever had in a theater. I want the closest thing in my collection. Edit: plus theres no special features on the blu ray

I bought Drive Away Dolls on regular DVD at Wal Mart because i figured it will never be out on anything else. And it looks just fine.

Bluray fine with me as well

I think modern TVs do a really good job of upscaling as well especially if you have a higher end TV, so the difference between the two is not as drastic

BluRays are indeed fine. Not EVERY movie needs to be seen in 4K (or at Ieast that is how I feeI). I do collect SOME 4Ks too ..but right now my movie collection is with more bluray discs and less (in comparison) 4K discs.

If it’s being released on 4k with Dolby atmos on digital, than it should be the same for the physical release.

It depends on the film. Did I upgrade my copy of Jurassic Park Blu Ray when the 4K came out? Absolutely. Did I upgrade my Ron Burgundy Blu Ray to 4K when it came out? No. I dont see any reason to drop another $20-$30 for a comedy. The Blu Ray is plenty sufficient for me.

The Godzilla set is $65 to start. They give you a 15% off coupon to sign up for emails and free shipping if you sign up for texts. Mine totaled out at $55.25.

Cinema Sickness/Retro Rest Stop said it best by referring to Blu-ray as a Goldilocks format; i.e. better than DVD, although perhaps not as incrementally sharp as 4K, but it's a happy middle and is more durable than DVD, so in many cases, the Blu-ray will suffice.

I've noticed ever since I watched the Criterion 1080p bluray release of: The Thin Red Line, that some bluray's can and do look just as good as a lot of 4K's. It's really just comes down to some factors. Is the movie shot on film, is it an older bluray like pre 2012. Almost every new digitally shot films 1080p looks pretty much the same as the 4k.

Blu ray is fine. 4k is not necessary.

It’s one of those things that if it came out in 4k I would have bought instantly but now that’s it’s only on blu I will wait for it to drop for free on streaming somewhere and then decide if I want to purchase the blu ray. I already spend over 3 grand a year on this stuff so gotta draw the line somewhere

I mentioned this before about Universal, Shudder, and horror releases in general; They know its a collector's market and they know 9 times out of 10 fans will double-tip, even triple-dip on titles.

Hey Ken great review of both BD. I am not into Horror but I am definitely going to get the blue-ray here in Spain when it comes out. It worries me you did not like the transfer very much because I trust your opinion. Thank you so much , stay safe Ken.

I would agree that Blue Ray in many cases is fine and 4K for older films makes complete sense. Feel it also comes down to who is authoring the Blue Ray and the time and care put into it. Funny, I remember when Laserdisc was the pinnacle of picture quality (lol).

As GoT might say today…Black Friday is coming. My universal policy with these situations is to grab a rental if I’m really interested. I also do a lot of pawning and grab a lot of fresh releases for next to nothing if I’m willing to wait a couple of months. Release day purchases are pretty rare for me as I have a pretty good backlog to fill the space. I definitely don’t do a lot of blind buys and am mostly interested in repeat viewings for a brand new physical purchase anymore. Interested in Abigail for sure. Have only had a 4K player and TV since Christmas-ish, so I’m a little late to the party.

Heres a question, why did the 4k not come out with the blu-ray? splitting the release is very bad practice and shows little respect for customers . Sort it out Universal!!!

I picked up Abigail on Blu-ray. Like you I thought it looked great. The disc comes from a 4K intermediate, so the sharpness is really nice.

Absolutely loved both movies and glad I got to see them in theaters. I picked up both from Walmart and thought what a strange double-feature. I often contemplate whether or not I want to buy the blu-ray or wait for a potential 4K as you mention. I agree with what you said of buying the movie if I really want it. Im no longer waiting for potential 4K release. Great video.

Also I dont really care for gimmicks like slipcovers or steelbooks. I care more of the presentation of the film and the quality of the special features. Id take a crappy case as long as the film looks great and they have great special features.

Bluray is good enough when the studios don't release the movie in 4k when the bluray gets releaes. And people need to stop bitching when the studios don't releaes the movie in 4k. When they the movie on bluray first. Bc we should be happy that we still get movies on physical media still in 2024. Bc Studios can just go the only digital releaes route with there movies. So everyone needs to stop bitching and be happy that we still are getting physical copy's of movies still in 2024

Outstanding and spot on! Let’s take away an extra level of stress and enjoy the films that we want to see when available. If you feel it’s worth upgrading later that’s fine. I thought Abigail was great and worth the money, a lot of fun and they don’t really make films like that anymore with true practical effects; the behind the scenes were great. Buy what you love and enjoy collecting is my motto! But blind buys are fun when they work out like Abigail and new movies look wonderful on Blu Ray.

Ken I’ve been informed by other groups Turbine is doing a 4k for this film

Digital is already 4k. I bought it instead of the physical. I’ll wait and buy the 4k pre owned on eBay.

I usually only buy old movies on 4K. I feel 4k benefits some of my favorite old movies much more than newer movies. But hey, if the option is available for a new movie on 4k, I'll buy that, for sure. I'm not a "oh, that's just fine for me" when it comes to stuff like movies. I want best of the best, viewing wise.

Wait for 8k. 6.66k is what I'm waiting on.

As a dual-format guy, I'd ideally like to have both. My issue is separate full-price purchases--I don't have the cash to spring for that (mostly). So when it comes to making decisions I go with 2 criteria: 1) is the scan 2K or 4K? and 2) is there going to be a 4K release? If the 4K is dual-format, I'll pay the additional price; it's fair. I always buy on sale anyway. If the scan is 2K, then the Blu is the best you're gonna get (I do NOT pay full price for upscales), so I buy Blu. If the scan is 4K, I'll usually wait...if it hasn't come out after a year, then I'll buy the Blu rather than risk missing out (like RED EYE, waited too long for price drop and lost out entirely when it went OOP). If Universal was open about their plan, I'd be less pissed, but since they're a corporation interested in milking the public...I'm sure that's why they do what they do this. But if they were testing the waters, we could understand.

I still buy DVD's and blu-rays. I buy 4k's for comedy movies or action films. recently on gruv I bought empire of the sun on DVD. can't wait for that movie to come out on 4k some day. but if not the DVD will do. I also got recently dragon the bruce lee story on blu-ray.

1080 blu is perfectly fine but it really depends on how much i enjoyed the movie, price and grade to consider upgrading to 4K versions down the line

For me, if these blu-rays come out with Atmos tracks on them, then I’m good on that. Like Last Voyage of the Demeter for instance: that blu-ray has an Atmos track on it and it looks fantastic so I don’t need to upgrade.

I think Turbine already made a hint that they will be releasing Abigail in 4K. As for as Challengers goes this is MGM title and Warner is only a distributor so I doubt that this will receive a 4K in a near future

Would prefer to own 4k,but if a movie I want is only available in blu ray of course I'll buy the blu ray.So many movies I love will never come out in 4k😢

Challengers is 4k on digital. Just buy it there for now.

In many cases, the Blu-ray is perfectly fine for me and I won't spend more on the 4K unless the increased cost is minimal (provided a regular Blu-ray is included since I avoid 4K-only releases). Heck, I have certain movies in my collection where the VHS is all I need. I rarely watch those particular movies or love the nostalgia of VHS, so there are cases when I've bought the VHS for a dollar at a thrift store and really don't feel the urge to buy it on DVD, Blu-ray, or 4K, particularly if the movie is adequate or just okay, but not so amazing as to justify a costlier upgrade. It's all a matter of taste and personal choices, of course. :)

I don’t chase anymore..If it’s a Blu Ray at release then that’s what I own and will not upgrade..

Abigail may have better black levels with the 4k version and probably will have dolby atmos and that may be a game changer! Thanks for the info cause I'm on the fence between this blu ray and a possible 4k release!!!!

Most of my focus is on films that have been out a while. If there's a 4K, then it's hard to go for the Blu-ray. I wonder if we'll regret not upgrading to 4K down the road as physical media inevitably shrinks. I watched my Arrow The Bird with the Crystal Plumage Blu-ray yesterday and wondered if I should upgrade to the 4K or not. It's hard to justify right now, and I am happy with the Blu-ray, but I think 10 years from now I could at least be partially bothered by not having the 4K. That one, maybe less than others because it's from a 4K scan and the newer one doesn't offer much new. But, like, I see people say they're not upgrading 10+ year Shout Blu-rays to 4K, and I get it, but I could see them possibly kicking themselves for not upgrading 10 years from now. For a release that's nowhere near your favorite, perhaps it's fine. I think it just depends title to title and how much each one means to you.

Blu Ray is fine, 4k was introduced to once again get people to repurchase what they already own. A good transfer on a Blu Ray will look better than a bad transfer on a 4k. It doesn't matter what the format is if the transfer is poor. I personally stopped buying physical media about 10 years ago and never got into 4k. Streaming is good enough for me,I rarely watch a movie more than once or twice anyways.

I have a silly reason for kinda liking when universal doesn't do a 4k. They always include the DVD as well, which means on my DVL 700, the combo Laserdisc/DVD player, I can play a disc that came in the newest ever release, as well as the first laserdisc from 1978, a player with 46 years of compatibility. All this while still getting the new movie in the best possible home video quality as well.

I pick up abigail on bluray and enjoyed watching it if abigail get a 4k I'll get has well because I really enjoyed it that much

It all depends on a couple of things number one and most important is the TV, then the player. I have a Sony 900 L 65 inch and is it upscale is amazing with standard bluerays. Yes the 4K is better but It’s not a really big deal for me personally if there’s no 4K. What’s important to me Is I can buy a Blu-ray and own the movie. Abigail Blu-ray looks really good. I just watched it last night. Now don’t get me wrong I’ll always choose the 4K disc over to regular Blu-ray but if there’s no option, it really doesn’t bother me and I don’t double dip ever so I’m buying 4K. Also, Abigail was a great movie it’s my pic for movie of the year so far hopefully it gets to sequel. Everybody that seen it really likes it and it seems to be selling really well at my store.

It depends on the movies. for the movies you’re showing then blu ray is fine for me. I got the Abigail and it looked fine

I definitely have been cutting back on buying 4K unless it’s a good deal as I feel Blu-rays are perfectly fine, some of them even have Dolby Atmos.

If I want to watch the movie, I'll buy the Blu-Ray. But if I already watched it in the theater, and want to own it (but don't need to re-watch it right away), then if it's only Blu-Ray I'll hold off. Especially if it's someone like Universal with a habit of this. I saw Abigail and Last Voyage of the Demeter in the theaters, and would like to own both. But I don't trust Universal so I'm waiting to see if there's a 4K down the road. And if not, then the Blu-Ray will probably be cheaper by then. However Challengers, I didn't get a chance to see it in theaters. So I picked up the Blu-Ray so I can watch it. I also picked up the Poor Things Blu-Ray when that came out, even though I saw it in the theaters. That one, because I absolutely don't expect Disney to put out a 4K of it (and their Blu-Rays tend to go out of print/hard to find faster than other studios). Blu-Ray is the best we'll get, so might as well just grab it.

I'll wait for Abigail to hit 4k through Universal or Turbine. I was really hoping Renfield would get a 4k, but if it doesn't happen by Halloween, I'm getting the Turbine release. Still waiting for Beast to get a 4k tho 😭

Hmm..to me it depends on special features, possible dolby atmos or dolby vision upgrade. Depends on the type of film as well. Like if it was a big spectical or an older film then yes im buying the best version ever! If it's like a romantic comedy,show or action film than blu is fine.

I totally agree with you. If you wanna watch a movie and it's only on bluray, just get it and enjoy the movie. That's what's more important rather than stressing yourself out.. Love your channel.

I used to have a multi region player in the UK, and I'm having to decide which early region A discs I purchased need to be replaced. Do I spend £12.99 for a Blu-ray or £25 for a 4K. Judging by how often I use the player, it's got to be the Blu-ray, I only own movies now that are no longer accessible via streaming for free, for instance last xmas Elf was only available to rent on Amazon which meant dusting off our copy. There's a growing void that streaming doesn't fill, my next purchase will be the Crow to replace my old region A version.

Saw Challengers in Dolby, they better bring that 4K!

I don't look at studio Blu-rays unless they're like $7 or less. I'm rarely THAT interested in newer movies. I'm not buying Abigail or the other one before I watch AND like them. Then, I'm still probably waiting for a 4K. The Blu-ray will be there if the 4K never comes. I don't care much about slips if the art is the same as the wrap. If there's a reversible wrap, then it's nice to have different art on the slip vs. the wrap.

4K only and make it a Steelbook with a cherry on top on both releases on day 1

I watched Abigail in theaters and I enjoyed it so much that as soon as it was available for purchase digitally I bought it. Now I’ll wait for the inevitable 4K release (fingers crossed for a steelbook)

Love 4k when the disc plays. They're so fickle, though, that I refuse to buy 4k unless a blu-ray is included. Unfortunately, seems some studios (Warner) are now only releasing 4k with no blus, included or stand alone. For example, Twister, you have the option of the 2008 blu or the 2024 4k. There is no 2024 blu.

When Blu-Ray was released I bought some of the films I had on DVD on Blu-ray. Now I buy the Blu-ray and only buy the 4K if the price is similar. I do not buy films on 4K that I already have on Blu-ray.

Blu-ray is fine with me Ken I can't really tell the difference between the picture quality of a blu-ray and a 4k disc and but I also like to get 4k movies at times but I also prefer blu-ray because of extended versions

Thanks for this video, sometimes i feel the fomo on 4ks but in reality blurays are atill great and im still very happy with them. Sometimes i think what about 10 years from now will i not want the 4k? Maybe? But im sure i would still be happy with the blurays and just be happy that my collection would have grown 10x more than 1x with 4ks

I really want to see Abigail and last voyage. For being of their both dark movies I would like to have them on 4K so I've held off on getting them and seeing them. Hopefully we can get them in 4k at some point I'll be the one that will buy them because I passed on the blu-ray. But if I see the Blu-ray for like five bucks during Prime day or Black Friday I may pick it up but I really don't want to support their decisions do not release on 4K

It all depends if im a huge fan of that particular movie...if i LOVE a movie i will buy the blu ray the 4k and an 8k disc for 60 bucks if we had 8k discs....if i just like a movie, i will just go with the blu ray because the price difference.

I will not purchase a Bluray for $20 or more if it’s a new release. I will wait till $15 or less prices or till a 4K comes out.

Turbine announced they're doing a 4K of Abigail soon. Thankfully, I held out instead of grabbing the blu. Germany's been picking up the slack on the 4K front. Really dig what Capelight's been doing recently too since they're putting out 4Ks of Immaculate and Late Night with the Devil. I'm hoping one of them will get ahold of The First Omen as well.

Blu ray is good enough if tv settting is right, its as good as 4k. Only thing is bluray cost can sometimes only slightly cheaper than 4k for new releases

Ken your question is one I grapple with almost every purchase. There have been too many times I bought this much more expensive 4k version only to find out either the movie was just ok, loawsy, or hear later people thought the blue ray version was actually better. Sometimes they do to much to the 4k actually making look kinda horrible. Still it's a hard habit for me to break. I always seem to gravitate to the 4k especially because the sound is improved too. Dolby Atmos for instance. ❓😌 So confusing. Especially when it comes to horror. I love horror, but the sound usually doesn't make me just go to the 4k. I usually just want the Blu-ray unless there is an option for both. I hardly ever buy DVD. Sad, but the picture quality in my opinion is to horrible. That being said I have over 3k in old DVDs. I bought since they first came out. There are still several that I have that either aren't available yet in a higher format, or just were a one time watch. There are a few that I just haven't updated too. 👍

But no Atmos soundtrack. It is available digital in 4K with Atmos

For me 4K is only necessary if the film is one that has scenes that will highlight it so for example Twister hell yes a 4K will be worth it but with Challengers there's no scenes that would really benefit much from it.

Abigail will be getting a 4K from the boutique label Turbine Media for Germany. I don’t know if Challengers would get a 4K from any distributor.

Blu Ray is absolutely fine, 4K is only slightly better picture quality and a lot of times almost double the price, so not worth it.

love the videos are you going to do a review of civil war 4k I am getting my copy on Tuesday can't wait it was shot in 6k and 8k resolution has healthy bit rate of 89.26 megabytes a second and its on a 100 gigabyte disc and definitely a contender for 4k transfer of the year, they say its looks better then top gun maverick 4k and dune 2

I collect 4Ks but haven’t watched any of them since my TV isn’t capable of playing them correctly. I have a mid budget “4K” TV but the image looks almost black with the 4K discs. I’m hoping to snag a good deal on a true 4K OLED TV when it comes on sale, maybe on Black Friday.

I think that the studios are more interested in licensing distribution rights out to boutique labels, so we are heading into an era of ultra expensive boutique labels. There is also a move by studios to put out premium collector (chunky box) editions, but this is not so appealing since the boxes contain the same discs as the studio standard editions.

I’m patient enough to wait for the 4K. You won’t see me double dipping. I’m an audio guy and sometimes the Blu-ray doesn’t have Atmos.

I picked up Abigail , Challengers, and the Twister 4k today. It is disappointing that Challengers is bare bone. I’ll upgrade if the option is available in the future!

Considering the ridiculous gouging with the 4Ks, I am satisfied waiting until they go on sale or the Bluray. I realize the production cost but, yeah, I am not totally buying into a 4K costing 30%-60% more to produce. And we believe that sales are booming and generating higher prices. If sales are booming, it should be helping to reduce production costs, just like it did with Bluray and DVD.

If it's about maybe down the road a movie might get a 4K. Then I would be fine with blu ray. I bought "Last Voyage of the Demeter" I bought it when I found out how good it was, on blu ray, I could upgrade it if it comes on 4K or maybe not. I don't need everything on 4K. It's nice to have a choice. I am more about restoration of movies I love.

Although it’s getting expensive as everything else 4K for me.

Universal has always played the double dip game. Back in the DVD days they'd put out a bare bones disc of a new release with just the film, then a year later put out a special edition with a ton of special features. Usually I could resist, but if it was a film I really liked I'd cave and get the first disc and later the second. Fortunately there are few new movies I want today so the blu-ray/4k issue rarely affects me.

Its only bluray for me Ken.Some of the 4K releases are amazing, but due to financial constraints i don't really have a choice.

Bluray can kick butt if it has Dolby Atmos...depends really on how good source sound was mixed by engineer. Thus it i s where it all starts. Last night watched Cap America- Winter Soldier and older bluray Cruel Intentions and the bluray DTS HD and sound was crappy. No point having 4 k for shit production sound mix. "Cruel Intentions" definitely needs 4k!!!I I watched my Madeloruan Season 2 4k and the Atmos mix ....wow Night n Day massive difference. It all depends on the Source and Quality

Huge pass on Challengers the three-way scene wasn't hot at all it just two dudes making out. Abigail is awesome and worthy of a 4k I hope one comes.

For me, it’s usually all about the price. If there’s only a $5 difference, I’ll go ahead and get the 4K. But if it’s down to a $15 blu-ray or a $30-$50 4K, I’ll buy the blu-ray and let my 4K player upscale it.