Is Cathay Pacific business class still worth it?

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11 ай бұрын

Controversial Cathay Pacific is trying to get back on track after their challenging covid era. Are they still worth it?
/ adamtheflyer

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@Simonbacon023 9 ай бұрын

Hi therr, as CX crew, i would like to highlight some details about the way our company cuts costs. We are currently losing two manpowers per flight so if you’re really annoyed our service being slow, please report. We’ve tried our very best with the understaffed and underpaid conditions. Please tell our company how dangerous it can be in case anything happens in the cabin. Unfortunately, Our voices will never be heard

@henalihenali 9 ай бұрын

Really unprofessional comment.

@kxnvrakx 9 ай бұрын

@@henalihenali he/she is a flight attendant and not a Professional PR manager what did you expect, it’s better than nothing

@JayZinger 9 ай бұрын

@@henalihenalihow is it unprofessional when the company has cut our wages and manpower and expect us to provide more service? Do you expect them to work like slaves or something? Inhumane and unsympathetic comment

@oikingwong2767 9 ай бұрын

May I have a blanket?🤣🤣

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

I had 2 long haul flights by Cathay in August, the crew was very nice. After elimination of most of the yellow staff.

@davidlam8552 9 ай бұрын

As a frequent business traveller, Cathay is the best to me, great seats, good schedules, good boarding gates, and smooth check in, luggage is always fast. I personally just expect a warm hello from the crews, and hope they wont keep coming to me to check on me, as i fly so often. I prefer efficiency over attentive. But that’s just my choice given i ve had too many diff exp with diff airlines.

@GregCurtin45 10 ай бұрын

Appreciate the flight journal, detailed menu and food view. Thank you for taking the time to film, edit, and share your trip with us.

@AdamTheFlyer 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching!!🤓

@GregCurtin45 10 ай бұрын

@@AdamTheFlyer I'm not sure what that crap is about 'talking too much with your face.' Just say what you are feeling, good, bad, disappointed, excited. Just be yourself and be honest with your reviews. As your experience grows you will create a formula that works for YOU. Don't let people change you but listen those who inspire you to be your best. At the end of the day you never want to let anyone else make your decisions for you.

@louiscy 10 ай бұрын

CX is way too under staff after covid since they fired most of the FA during covid. Now they are desperately trying to hire more FA but not offering enough money or incentive, Also catering was always hit and miss for Cathay, even first class meals are nothing special.

@aznandyroo 10 ай бұрын

Love seeing 2 videos 2 weeks in a row!! and....the edit at the end 🤣

@sputnicksteerpike 10 ай бұрын

you're doing a great job - really enjoy your videos! keep up the good work! (:

@sputnicksteerpike 10 ай бұрын

ps: i LIKE your facial expressions! they're what make you YOU!

@felixchong2516 10 ай бұрын

I've enjoyed your post. Keep it coming

@henryjames5663 10 ай бұрын

Internationally I mostly fly on Asian airlines, to me the nest airline is Cathay, always found the crew hospitable and the food good. One needs to make allowance for the Covid Pandemic and the political change in Hong Long, which greatly affected the travel industry

@AdamTheFlyer 10 ай бұрын

totally agree!🤓

@Ekanas 10 ай бұрын

Hooray another new video!!🎉

@LMays-cu2hp 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing a good trip.

@donaldleo3448 9 ай бұрын

in some airports at the boarding gate, the Diamond / first class queue is longer than the business class queue, too many top tier members maybe time to consider Super Diamond level above Diamond+ soon

@charmtheman 9 ай бұрын

Like the next Wayne Goss with that make up tutorial on bamford lol. great vid mate

@ReflectionTool637 4 ай бұрын

I watch these videos for only one reason - to see what the bed is like. I can't sleep anymore in economy seats (age and nerve damage) and since I am a FT traveler I change continents a couple times/year. One can cross the Atlantic on day flights (Dublin/London - New York/Boston), but that doesn't work often on other continent changes. And these seats/beds are not super huge, but the difference to me is HUGE. Am not wealthy and my yearly spending has been ~$50K for the last 4 years of planet wandering, so you know even the best priced biz class seats are a large portion of my yearly spend. I don't do loyalty programs or any points chasing as I prefer to live my life as unscheduled and simply as possible, and I never seem to fly on the same airline or airline group anyway. I have yet to find a lie flat biz class seat that is less than wonderful. Korean Air: Atlanta - Seoul is my best experience yet. I highly recommend you consider biz class seats if you can, in any way, afford it. Yes, $3-4K is way too much for just traveling, but since ships don't ply the seas anymore, this is the only civilized way to move about comfortably.

@gregorybaker330 Ай бұрын

I fly often with CX and understand the cost cutting over many years and know most crew try their best. We as pax are not heard either andany flights in J only Prem Yeals left. Oneworld Emeralds treated different to CX Diamonds. We support nice people and do appreciate you all.

@mirelurkhomevideos 4 ай бұрын

i recently flew from los Angeles to hong kong with cathay and none of the flight attendents spoke english. but the hong kong lounge was really good. they had a state of the art 20,000 dollars kohler anthem shower system.

@coolsoenie 8 ай бұрын

ams to Hkg and return was so bad with no stewards walking offering drinks at night. Also floor lights are turned off at night

@waynecrozier9839 10 ай бұрын

I flew Cathay Pacific in business class from Los Angeles to Bangkok Thailand, with a layover in Hong Kong. The service seem to be lacking a little bit, but I’m not high maintenance lol the food was lacking except for the hamburger which I thoroughly enjoyed, yes, I would fly with them again .

@geoffreyjrwang3648 4 ай бұрын

Food is a lot better nowadays

@waynecrozier9839 4 ай бұрын

@@geoffreyjrwang3648 I would still fly with them again, I slept very well on the plane,I got about seven hours of sleep lol

@Thefunone88 4 ай бұрын

Doing this leg but from sfo with them in a month

@ambc8970 9 ай бұрын

papi. i flew cathay many times between amsterdam and hong kong im business and in premium eco. they have a good service. good asian food. and believe me much much much better then klm.

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

I flew business in KLM about 10 years ago, it was good, I had vension and it was nice. But my neighbor's Chair was out of order and could not lie flat but they didn't give compensation.

@RichardBrubaker 9 ай бұрын

Not sure why they are called Controversial in the title, but I've been flying CX for 20 years, never had a bad experience, and my recent flights with them have been nothing short of fantastic.

@AdamTheFlyer 9 ай бұрын

Hi Richard, as I am following a lot of avgeek youtubers and reporters, most of them have been very critical towards CX, saying they are on the decline during/after covid era. Thats why. :) Im glad your flight were fantastic!🤗

@RichardBrubaker 9 ай бұрын

I've been on 8 flights in the last 2.5 months with CX, and often talk to the crews. In part as I have been in the region a long time, and know what the airline went through. So, perhaps I'm biased a bit, but when you see the scenes of the crew member encouraging him to get the chocolate, and holding an extra burger, and speaking to him at his level... That's great service. As good as Qatar? Guess that's subjective, but that's what keeps me flying CX EVERYTIME. @@AdamTheFlyer

@lifeofmiles 9 ай бұрын

CX :) Cathay Pasific #avgeek

@christianbayerstein5243 10 ай бұрын

Adam doesn’t like healthy food👍I‘m surprised that One World doesn’t have its own lounge in Amsterdam, there is even a Star Alliance lounge in Amsterdam.

@horus808 10 ай бұрын

Very good review ❤

@davec8153 9 ай бұрын

After the pay cuts, the firings and the current low morale issues plaguing Cathay, it's not surprising the service just isn't what it was (compared to their Asian peers like Singapore, ANA and JAL), but I think the critique of the main course isn't really "fair". Seems Cantonese cuisine (or that particular dish) just isn't something you'd enjoy, rather than it being a bad rendition of that particular dish.

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

I had very bad experiences with CX Korean crews on 2 incidences many years ago.

@PokhrajRoy. 10 ай бұрын

Amsterdam to Hong Kong? Nice to know you flew Business.

@franklinloo2160 10 ай бұрын

Huge and long business class row. Btw, Nice review.

@TC.C 10 ай бұрын

Not the best business class experience. It’s not the Cathay from the old days any more. Great detailed and unbiased report

@wil_wilqueen3552 9 ай бұрын

The lounge in Hkg is very nice

@wongwong5866 9 ай бұрын

actually i'm one of the team, can you share more about how other airlines crews be extra attentive while having a full cabin and dont keep the passengers wait long? Do they have more staffs or less items to serve?

@AdamTheFlyer 9 ай бұрын

definitely more crew is involved but also its about asking straightaway. Great example is Singapore Airlines service. They always check your glasses and offer you another beverage. Cathay Pacific did a great job and I enjoyed my flight, but I just cant tell they are the best airline ever, so i had to rank it somehow.

@wongwong5866 9 ай бұрын

@@AdamTheFlyer Thanks for sincere answering :)

@krii017 4 ай бұрын

I havent been to any business class flights but I'm saving my credit card miles for that. I'm wondering if all foods like the all-day menu and pre-ordered are included in what you paid for? thank you

@elisemcuk9808 3 ай бұрын

Yes it is.

@Mellowbeee 9 ай бұрын

CX staff are one of the best I have encountered. But the business class seats are just not worth it, comparing to other airlines. It is just a flat bed version of economy class

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

Cathay is my first choice because they have direct flights from HK, I don't want to spend extra time to change in Qatar or Singapore.

@lilytsui3015 9 ай бұрын

Agree

@UKabroad1967 10 ай бұрын

Let me introduce you to the CX way of cutting costs in business class via mind tricks. Did you notice that two of the same exact any time snack options are listed TWICE, once as an all day/any time option and AGAIN as the first two in the Mains for the 1st meal? Why don’t you guess why that is :) Isn’t it also interesting that they order the Mains option with the most expensive one at the last. Basically Cathay is purposely tricking you into thinking there are more options where actually they just offer you the same cheaper options from the snack menu as mains - and purposely directing your attention by playing games with how it’s ordered in the menu list, in the hopes that all customers will just order one of the snack menu as the mains…..win win to lower catering costs. Also notice how small the desserts are….overall meal quality looks like what you get from a food court.

@AdamTheFlyer 10 ай бұрын

thank you for your analysis. interesting point!🤗

@shakebooty 9 ай бұрын

@@user-lp3vy1jf4xcx catering has been bad for many many years! I don't think I have ever finished their food, regardless if it was business class or econ

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

I was upgraded to premium economy, the food was great, even economy was good. I had skipped both main meals because I have had enough at the lounge.

@lastpreacher9093 7 ай бұрын

Cathay Pacific has never let me down.

@smwong6817 7 ай бұрын

Ha, ha, I don't fancy expensive food, when I was in First class, I refused champagne, wine or caviar

@RobertSK931 3 ай бұрын

Good to know. I just subscribe to your channel.

@tdb762000 10 ай бұрын

Did you make your bed for the vlog? or is this standard for cathay for you to make your own bed? would love to know

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

When I traveled first class, I thought it was unnecessary to make the bed😂

@Akshay_Rajbongshi_ 10 ай бұрын

Adam Makes AweSome 👌 Flight ✈️ Vlog

@sebastianvette1 9 ай бұрын

I am sure the passenger sitting next to you thinks it's not worth it

@akimoto3624 10 ай бұрын

Actually Cathay Pacific services is good

@kkdteo 8 ай бұрын

Not without me serving passengers anymore 😂

@lutontown5923 9 ай бұрын

you chuntered about them taking their time and then told them to take their time. make your mind up.

@charlesyu9501 9 ай бұрын

If you dislike or do not eat mushrooms, of the 5 entrees to choose from, why did you choose a chicken dish that uses mushroom as one of the main ingredients? Illogical!

@AdamTheFlyer 9 ай бұрын

thanks for the comment😂 im just a picky eater and i just love chicken much more than i hate mushrooms🤩

@msparisglamor5323 6 ай бұрын

CX flight attendants are nice and attentive, as a pax, we hv to respect them, but some pax are not, after Covid, there are many pax become demanding n making unreasonable requests

@gotminnam 10 ай бұрын

nice video. and as always, super handsome

@cgshka2818 10 ай бұрын

I don’t fly with CX anymore.

@Simonbacon023 9 ай бұрын

As a CX crew, Can’t wait to see more people doing that haha. Please spread out the message to your friends and family and your friends family or your families friends!!!

@pittwm 9 ай бұрын

Hold up, did I read “gweilo craft beer”?

@ericthire9106 7 ай бұрын

il est tres mignon

@keiming2277 9 ай бұрын

How airlines can make fresh French Fries on an airplane ??

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

Oven? Air fryer?

@joejohnson9259 9 ай бұрын

CX food is very average, service is also super average.

@mominth 4 ай бұрын

So the menu says what each dish has in it, the dish looked good, you just did not read what was in it. Not bashing you, just something you should have mentioned. 😊

@fremarperalta2235 10 ай бұрын

New subscriber here.

@thomas-xj1hs 10 ай бұрын

Good. Fewer cabin staff to cut costs, i am informed, so the standard might be less than before...

@AdamTheFlyer 10 ай бұрын

They still did a great job!🤗 but yes the service could be a bit quickier👀

@LoZu-vz5rj 10 ай бұрын

Do they still make staff wear masks in 2023?

@AdamTheFlyer 10 ай бұрын

they wear them voluntarly🤗

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

I think they wear masks when they serve food

@Traveltheme706 10 ай бұрын

Great review i just subscribed, but the chicken didnt look nice

@mohammadislam2652 10 ай бұрын

Nice video Sir Adam The Flyer can you fly kuwait airways frankfurt to kuwait Emirates frankfurt to Dubai Etihad Airways Frankfurt to Abu Dhabi oman air Frankfurt to Muscat Gulf air Bahrain to London Flybe Southampton to Amsterdam Austrian airline Vienna to Dubai Business class Saudia Airline Jeddah To London Business class Air Baltic Munich to riga Egyptair Cairo To Dubai Salam Air phuket to Muscat Lufthansa Frankfurt To Boston First class

@gt7165 9 ай бұрын

Not sure if I feel comfortable flying Cathay Pacific cause I don't know how to spell "blanket"

@cocokoki1027 9 ай бұрын

But you literally spelt it in you comment😂😂😂 here is not “red booklet”

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

No need to ask, it's already in your seat unless you want extra.

@gt7165 9 ай бұрын

@@cocokoki1027 what's a red booklet ?

@gt7165 9 ай бұрын

@@smwong6817 lol great name

@HeijiFlying 7 ай бұрын

Very cute 😝 nice video

@shihlin1 10 ай бұрын

Please give China Airlines and EVA Air, both airlines of Taiwan, a chance in your upcoming travels. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Cathay seems to be riding on their past reputation as a five-star airline, but I think those days are over. The crew does not seem to be very proactive here. CX has blundered some bad public relations in the press regarding ill treatment towards Mainland Chinese passengers and the crew's refusal to speak Mandarin. They'll need time to turn around the negative image. Hope you get a chance to fly on China Airlines and EVA Air soon. Nice video here 📸

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

I heard them speak putonghua, it depends on individual staff. Actually, I was so pleased with the crew who served me, I wrote a email to give commendations.

@boris7417 9 ай бұрын

Too expensive

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

My friend wanted to fly Air Canada to from Vancouver to HK, avoid the yellow staff of CX but a lot more expensive, so she chose CX, got a complimentary business ticket to Japan too. But I think the political extremists have left. Hurray!

@grandmasterflash213 9 ай бұрын

KLM business class is the best

@Stepheny15 9 ай бұрын

A350 ❤❤️👍👍

@alfredchan2771 9 ай бұрын

If you are handsome, you may receive better service than others😄😁🤫

@Gazmeizster_Wongatron 9 ай бұрын

That is true. I would service him with a smile. 😁

@da480 10 ай бұрын

Eating smelly food while people around sleep… I don’t know. Let’s just hope they couldn’t smell it

@wangyuenlaw8549 9 ай бұрын

I am a cx ex crew and I’m surprised there’s no one escort you to your seat and the guy working in the galley didn’t even notice it’s already boarding time and not standing out there to greet the passengers

@Simonbacon023 9 ай бұрын

You must’ve left the company long ago haha! When we can’t even get what needs to be done done, how could we care about “passengers walking to their own seats” do you know that ISM needs to do service now? And SP is forever stuck at EY cabin haha 2 manpowers short per flight now.

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

Quit your job if you are so unhappy. How can the company raise your salary if she's losing a lot of money, give better service to increase the company’s return and will have a salary raise. Economy is bad worldwide.

@vickybobo412 9 ай бұрын

@@smwong6817 everyone can feel unhappy in their work. However, by no means the staff have to quit their job. If the company want to earn money, they should upgrade the service. How they can upgrade the service by only cutting manpower and cost? It's funny for the asian employer. Why not comparing with the other foreign airline that they could still pay a good salary to their staff after COVID? The main reason is no labour law to protect the employee and union. Company can do whatever they want to change the contract forever or simply fired all the staff. Now, they just want to hire those mainland staff. Finally, every frontline staff pay like a shit like in china and the company maximize their return and salary in management level. They just want the staff to give the mouth shut and get underpaid. The richer become richer, the poor become poorer. The income is relying on the cargo and they always get a good return.

@qiushi5899 9 ай бұрын

you are wasting money on CP. If I were you, I would buy other airline companies. It is a waste of money to buy CP as my experience in business class was not good at all.

@RaviSharma-wo3zs 10 ай бұрын

@user-qb7dr1qo2t 9 ай бұрын

the fries aren't fresh anymore, why even bother saying that ? why not try eating it when they serve it to you ???.....sheeeesh , go back to economy class

@AdamTheFlyer 9 ай бұрын

welcome to flight reviews, where people tell their honest opinion before saying that everything is 100% perfect.😂

@walterchan9788 9 ай бұрын

Cathay is the worst airline that deserves to be shut down (this is a very respectful comment)

@groteogen6950 9 ай бұрын

Food is getting worse

@SmartFactsEdu 10 ай бұрын

Can’t believe they’re still wearing masks

@jefflaw4979 10 ай бұрын

Some of them do

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

I like it, it gives me sense of security. I regretted I didn't wear my mask on my return flight, a lot of people were coughing and sneezing particularly the one next to me, though separated by the aisle

@gablecheung4547 10 ай бұрын

Sorry I was not like it.

@Tchf1000 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review, however i will just give them 6 out of 10. You have to make your own bed ??? The first FA kneeled down for you because you are a youtuber ? NO CX FA never kneels down like ANA for years in first or biz class.

@smwong6817 9 ай бұрын

I think it's unnecessary to kneel down, they are not slaves. Last time, I just told them no need to make my bed, I think it's unnecessary.

@vickybobo412 9 ай бұрын

You see that's the typical passenger that have been spoiled in asian service culture. However, what did the frontline staff being treated from the company? A pay cut and fired ? What a joke.

@vickybobo412 9 ай бұрын

I share with your point. However, many passenger treat them like the boss or king, or being spoiled by the service culture. Being said that, the cabin crew in asian still being said that not have attentive service and receive complaint, and being treated by company with pay cut and change of contract forever.

@Tchf1000 5 ай бұрын

@@smwong6817 She kneed down because youtuber is white guy. For other races like me they never kneed down for over 30 years.

@yo2trader539 5 ай бұрын

@@smwong6817We haven't had slavery like the Europeans, so it comes from a different context. In Japan, people in the service sector would try to avoid to physically look down on a customer whether in a traditional Ryokan, restaurant, or airline. It's not for the benefit of foreigners, as the majority of customers of Japanese airlines are Japanese passengers. The most important concept is to set the eye-level to be equal with the customer. You will see this gesture with Japanese athletes meeting fans in wheel chairs, or the Imperial Family members meeting with disaster victims. They will physically lower themselves to match the sitting person. It's a cultural thing, so you probably won't understand unless you're Japanese.

@Yrz681 10 ай бұрын

Lol. It’s being updated. Be grateful you can fly BC

@AdamTheFlyer 10 ай бұрын

when you pay 3000$ for a ticket, you dont have to be grateful. You should get what you pay for.

@Funtimeskidztv 10 ай бұрын

I feel that you are a little bit of a show pony its okay to be constructive. Overall still doing a great job but your review was very negative mostly

@AdamTheFlyer 10 ай бұрын

i'm sorry if you feel that way. It's very difficult to squeeze 12 hours flight into 12 minute video. I enjoyed the flight but I wouldn't say they are on the same level as Singapore/Qatar and other competitors right now. If you catch a good deal i'm sure you'll enjoy the flight but I would prefer SQ/QR if the price is the same. That's all I wanted to say.

@wongwong5866 9 ай бұрын

@@AdamTheFlyerPlease share more about the differences in between, would really like to know :)

@marten.travelling.11 10 ай бұрын

Actually quite interesting video, but you "talk" again too much with your face. Your grimacing is just tooooo much and after a while it's just getting on peoples nerves. But you are still very young so this might be the reason. 😊

@AdamTheFlyer 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! I think that's my Tiktok career kicking in😂

@marten.travelling.11 10 ай бұрын

@@AdamTheFlyer Maybe! 😂😂 Wish you all the best and looking forward to more of your Videos!