Westerners complaining that the Chinese are outcompeting them in capitalism. Interesting times we live in.

If it was American or any other Western nation the headlines would have been, "American EV makers leads the world with record sales"

Chinese EVs are not inexpensive. It’s the Western car makers that have been excessively profiteering from the car buyers. we’re all conditioned to think cars should cost more than they should.

EU and US: developing countries need to take more responsibility to fight climate change. Also EU and US: Chinese EV and solar panels suffer overproduction 😂

You can buy almost all brands of cars from EU and US, but you can't buy Car brands from China in the USA, who is free?

US and EU will ban these innovative EV cars due to national security concerns like they ban tiktok😂

If Electric Car is our future, then "China has made Electric Cars very affordable!" . We all want affordable electric cars right?

if we can not make good cars like those, smear them

BBC as usual didn't mention the subsidies by EU as a balanced argument, don't expect them to have a un-bias coverage of anything China. In that sense I think DW does a way better job.

It must be clarified to our Western friends that the Chinese government has long ended its subsidies to car companies. Currently, it is only reducing commodity taxes for consumers. Chinese car companies are engaging in liberalized market competition.

Unfair Advantage is not a legitimate criticism. Amazon has an unfair advantage in e-commerce and Google has an unfair advantage in search.

Wait, EU and US also subsidy their car industry too. Never metion in this report. 😂😂😂😂

Yes. Why is this even a question? 😂 BYD surpassed Tesla in 2023. And this is just the beginning.

So the west will ban this just like Tik Tok

Customers feel that Chinese EV cheap only because German and Japan has been enjoying massive profit from their products. Vehicles should not be that expensive in the first place.

"9 out of the top 10 biggest EV makers in the world will be Chinese" - Elon Musk

Nio has the most charging piles in China and they never received any subsidies. They were bailed out once but needed to give up a piece of the company to the government which they’ve been buying back by repaying the loan. Nio has never received subsidies so it’s infuriating this is what the u.s and e.u are saying because they were late to the party and can’t compete. Maybe if they didn’t spend so much money on wars they could build some half decent infrastructure

When u can’t compete, the west starts accusations

Why is this even a question? You now can say evs are evil, that will make you feel better.

Isn't the US heavily subsidising its own EV industry with its inflation reductions act??? If I recall only US made EVs can obtain government credit worth 7k USD, surely that runs blatantly against WTO rules, no?

Longest time Europe and America was crying on gasoline combustion engines.😂😂

Remember when desktop PC prices were very high since they were manufactured in the US? After the components get made in China, the computers became more affordable. Similar thing would likely happen to EV industry

Why is the BBC still posing a question with such an obvious answer?

Loads of lies in the video. EU has been giving funds to the "Electric" cars funds already.... Now the Chinese keeps on building better cars. EU is doomed

The ridiculousness of the USA and the EU 😂

Westerners crying in the comment section 😂😂

UK: Don’t buy it if you are not affordable ! Don’t need to cry like a baby

*UNCLE SAM IS FURIOUS!!!*

China is where the magic happens ❤❤❤

Huge contrast between how China went about EVs compared to the US. In the US, most car manufacturers wanted to make EVs a luxury vehicle instead of selling vehicles that were cheaper that more could afford.

Kind of infuriating how the guy is clumsily walking backwards

Without a doubt china leads in the EV market far ahead of others..

There were some subsidies in the early years of EV development in China, but all the car companies competing in Chinese market enjoyed the same subsidies, including Tasla and many other companies from Germany and Japan! For example, if customer buys an EV(no matter it is from China or abroad), customer can get a 10% discount(means government will pay the 10% for customer). But such kind of subsidies were long gone!

Guarantee America and Europe will ban them on " security concerns" as soon as they present a real threat to sales.

When can't compete, change the rules.

Those charging stations is what’s putting china 🇨🇳 ahead 12 minutes that’s efficient.!!

It's a strange argument, the western governments are complaining that the Chinese government is subsidising EV companies. If that's the case it means the Chinese government is partly paying for the cars that westerners and buying, but yet are still complaining. If the Chinese government is partly paying for my car, I would gladly accept. The other point is, all governments across the world, not just China, supports their car companies in some way, it is just another western hypocrisy to call out China for this.

In another words they can't compete with the Chinese. 😂

BYD has almost total vertical supply chain integration. That's why they can sell their cars way cheaper than anyone else. Subsidies, if anything, makes them more on equal footing with domestic brands after factoring tariffs. The west needs to face the fact that they can not compete in mass production and that it's only hope to remain competitive in a modern global market is to pursue new and innovative technologies. That is our comparative advantage and we would be wise to exploit that.

BYD will push down the price further because its has heavily invested in end to end supply chain , from mining, shipping, semiconductors, software, AI and battery.

As long as we have affordable price car , who care ?😂

In a word, YES. there should be an inquiry into subsidies to European and American car makers. The playing field is level, it just the west doesn't like playing on it.

Wait a minute, didn't the Indians/India said in year 1998 that they will be superpower by 2020 (Meme: India superpower by 2020) and they are the "leader/voice" of the Global South Countries and the GLOBAL teacher of the entire world (Vishvaguru) and this 21st century will be India's century (Modi said that)? Elon Musk is not taking the bait? 🤭🤣😂

No need to be bullying the attendees 😢....just stand still and shoot a video. Chaving people to make space for your shot doesn't look cool

Protectionism never helped any country, look at Argentina today. But in the US, even in 10 years GM leadership will explain to us that gasoline cars are better, because they create jobs.

This idea of overproduction is against the very concept of free market. And it's the western, I mean more than anyone, who were calling for an action to reduce pollution but when this is realized why do they cry?

The MG cyerster is amazing. Why it costs only 30k in china and 50k here is greed. We should be making them here.

Oh BBC, you left out the filter from hell

Are the so called subsidies the environment fees waived off? But it's only 3000 yuans (about $400) per car.

Doesn't Telsa has a factory in Shanghai with the same supply chain advantage? Tariffs? Like anyone, people in China or Europe wants value for $

Electric car driving is a luxury experience, much quieter than ICE vehicles, and more convenient to own, with charging points in every house. The charging infrastructure outside of the home will mature in ~10 years, it’s ahead of its time, for now. I own a Chinese flashlight, and it’s very clear, even from this small product, with bidirectional charging, that the Chinese are at parity with the best in battery technology, if they haven’t already eclipsed the world in battery technology.

Politicians talking about tariffs against a country with almost 20% of the world's population (at least 1.4 billion people) is actually hilarious - yea let's see all your other export sectors start losing 20% of the world's market because your automakers can't play the EV game. Two can play the tariff game, and the one with the larger domestic market wins. Now who had 20% of world population again? 😂

China is also propping up Huawei in huge ways, including banning Apple products in government buildings and having its investments in Africa go to state interests (e.g. Huawei).

Huh. Norway has subsidies to help buyers offset the cost of evs. Eventually no subsidies will be needed.

China to BYD "we support you, go forth and conquer". Biden to Tesla "you are second rate, wait for GM" *not direct quotes

Cheap ev is absolutely a win win. Its good for the environment, good for the economy. But, UK will just do what the American say and put 100% tariff on it so to price you off the road.

Byd alone battery tech is amazing, steal that shit

Every government gives subsidies to their key industries. Airbus, Boeing, US and EU governments give subsidies to EV and green tech industries as well, maybe not as much as China. But there is nothing wrong with subsidies in general. Compete by giving your local companies more subsidies, not protectionist tarrifs.

Yes, that's why US trying to ban them 😂

How many times were American car companies bailed out? Nowadays, car price is too high in Northamerica. Do not know why. More competition is great for the consumers.

I know Chinese ev almost double the price in overseas markets, but apparently is still too cheap😢

Elon Musk postponed the unimportant and announced meeting (India) scheduled on 21-22 April 2024 and attended the important and unannounced meeting (China) on 28 April 2024 instead? 🤔😏🤭😅

Btw, both Chinese car and European cars are down to half price in China than in Europe

China government has been supporting EV for more than 10 years. Now it makes big difference for China to become leading power in advanced EV technology and efficiency of production. One third of new cars sold in China 2023 is EV and the ratio keeps growing.

We need to think differently. It is not that Chinese cars are cheaper, but that European and American cars are more expensive. For example, Cartier gold rings are several times higher than the international gold price. You can say that Cartier rings are good and you are free to buy them, but you cannot say that other people's gold rings are not gold. Apple phones and Teslas have been lowering their prices in China, which shows that they were operating at huge profits in the past.

I have seen first time Chinese EV in BBC

Someone hasn’t seen the exploding cars

Yes. They eating everyones lunch whilst Europe and the US twiddle their thumbs. Reduces their dependence on foreign oil, something we can all agree is good for every country.

People seem to think that Elon is some kind of idiot. I'd call him a Mad Genius.

Maybe our governments need to stop infighting and get on the ball, more subsidies/support and take the need for charging stations seriously.

We don't need cheap Ev's, we need inexpensive cars, for Ev's just the same no power left😢😢

US and EU auto makers should try their best to provide consumers much better EVs with much lower prices, learn from your Chinese counterparts. Learn from them, not try to ban them, please!

Stephen McDotard at his best - regurgitating talking points scripted for him like a parrot - overcapacity, subsidies, unfair trade practices, etc. 😂😂😂

As an electric vehicle owner/driver, I think you can’t really beat them. My current Renault Zoe has been with me for nearly five years. I find it more comfortable, reliable and easy to drive than any of her petrol predecessors.

Is it fair to sell the car over price?

If it's about saving the planet you'd think they would appreciate cheap electric cars... but it's not about saving the planet

Vehicles should be utility, shouldn't be that expensive in the first place.

Good value for money! Alien concept, for British manufacturers

Thanks for 38 subscribers 😢 ❤

I am wondering if these Chinese EVs will be included with a pack of marshmellows.

For regions like Hong Kong that do not produce EVs, we are delighted to import what are known as overcapacity EVs. As for those regions producing EVs, you have two options: either increase your productivity or raise tariffs to protect your auto industry in the short term. However, in the long run, good luck to you.

China is the future ❤❤❤

Yes they are. They build most of the Teslas and every other make of car too

Tesla got subsidies from the Chinese government. VW and others are getting bilions in subsidies from the US, Canada and EU. In any case, the thing is that in China you can still by an entry level car. And the question should be why VW, GM and others can sell their cars in CHina much cheaper than in the US or EU? And as for EV's it is way more than 30% of Chinese sales now because there is the infrastructure to support it. You can charge inexpensively everywhere and instead of complaining if other countries want EVs they should invest in that as well

1:13 He ruined the group photo.

US and Western Europe manufacturers are in no position to apprehend the gross impacts to have befallen on the Vehicles manufacturers ; and their valued cars that have prevailed for decades .. European and Japanese car manufacturers may simply stand no chance to this present imbroglio trying moments ..

Elon Musk postponed a planned trip to India where he was to meet Prime Minister Narendra Modi, citing obligations at Tesla, and went to China for business talks instead. How will the extremely superpower India punish this guy for his insolence? You do not simply arrange a meeting with Narendra Modi and cancels it at the last minute. That is not cool, bro. What is even worse is that you had cancelled this meeting just for China. 🤔😏😭

The big car companies has been selling overpriced cars for too long.

What will Bidet think about these? Ban EV just like how they ban TikTok?

There are only main Chinese players on the field....with the exception of Tesla...most western automakers are not even present. Hard to call it a race.

It's never fair unless you win.

Computation is good. At least we could drive cheap and good cars 😊

Well maybe the European and American government should give even more subsidize to electric cars, they are still a lot more expensive than gas cars here

Poor western car makers..... Week western politicians..... Be brave enough for fair competition.....

US government subsidies their automobile industry as well, but no one mentioned

What about the battery fires? Later what is the cost to replace batteries in the future, or are these like cell phones, just purchase new ones.

The Europeans and Americans apart from Tesla were asleep at the wheel. They had the opportunity to develop the tech years ago but preferred to try preserve the convenient status quo.

When US and Europe talk about unfair advantage due to government subsidy, they are talking about themselves.

China has very robust and efficient supply chains for EV manufacturing. That is why the industry is competitive.

Don't worry. Soon BBC will report that China is collapsing.