Is College Worth the Time and Money?

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Is College Worth the Time and Money?

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College is often presented as THE best path to success. But it's not the only path. Is college really the best option?
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*How important is a college degree today, really?*
College is often presented as THE BEST option, full stop. Why? Because it's not your grandparents' economy anymore. Back in 1950, a high school diploma could get you a solid, good-paying job. You could go work on an assembly line, save money, and even buy a house. Today? Not so much. Most of the factory jobs have gone to other countries, where labor is cheaper. And good-paying careers out there now are more complex. As a result, college is now more popular today than ever before.
*How much does college cost?*
The average cost to attend a private college is over $35,000 A YEAR! That makes in-state, public colleges look like a bargain at $10,000 a year. College wasn't always this expensive! If you adjust for inflation, students in 1990 were paying ⅓ of what they're paying today. Maybe today's grads are AT LEAST making more money? NOPE! New college grads in 1990 made around the same amount of money -- on average -- as new college grads today. To pay the absurdly high cost of college, students are taking out loans, and that means debt. The typical student leaves college owing around 30,000 dollars.
*What are the pros of going to college?*
The arguments FOR college are that it pays out more money over time -- on average -- than most other options. It can help you transition into living life as an adult. And it gives you access to an alumni network which can help you with job opportunities.
*What are the cons of college?*
It can be risky because you could go into debt and might not even graduate. A lot of people WITH college degrees have jobs that don't require it. And there are other quicker, cheaper options that might get you where you want to go.
SOURCES:
Why Is College in America So Expensive? (The Atlantic)
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Millennial life: How young adulthood today compares with prior generations (Pew Research Center)
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College Completion Rates Are Up, But The Numbers Will Still Surprise You (NPR)
www.npr.org/20...
Why Google doesn't care about hiring top college graduates (Quartz)
qz.com/180247/...
The case against college (The Washington Post)
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General Education, Vocational Education, and Labor-Market Outcomes over the Lifecycle (The Journal of Human Resources)
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Nine out of 10 new jobs are going to those with a college degree (MarketWatch)
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Educational Attainment in the U.S. (U.S. Census Bureau)
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Some 43% of College Grads Are Underemployed in First Job (The Wall Street Journal)
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The Labor Market for Recent College Graduates (Federal Reserve Bank of New York)
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@AboveTheNoise 4 жыл бұрын

Are you thinking about NOT going to college -- or did you already make that decision? Did you decide to go to college? How do you feel about your choice? Let us know in the comments below!

@WayneBond006 4 жыл бұрын

I did go to college and other than loans it was amazing. Now I work at a University doing something outside my degree. I completely agree that college isn't for everyone, yet everyone should have the chance to go. Also, does offer the perfect ability to enter Pseudo-Adulthood. Personal freedom to discover new ideologies with a familial safety net basically.

@eziahnapitan123 4 жыл бұрын

I have a high school degree and two AA degrees (one in Math and Science, and one in Arts and Humanities) and got accepted into University of California Santa Cruz, Davis, and Berkeley under different Liberal Art majors (psychology, communications, and media studies). However, it costs too much and I'm not sure if the major(s) are practical. Yes, it would help with "adulting" and networking, but I don't want to spend all this money just for that. And financial aid doesn't really help because I applied late. I'm am thinking about either going to the school that gives the most financial aid, or just staying another year to save up more and apply again (on time), or just not going to college at all. Tuff decisions

@bn3764 4 жыл бұрын

I attended college and earned a bachelor degree. fast forward a few years i became a union electrician apprentice . good wages, insurance , retirement plan. i think the trade route is a good way to go if you can get in a union apprenticeship because it wont cost you any tuition. its a earn while you learn system

@weplay6969 4 жыл бұрын

i have not go to college no man!

@reasonablecomments2538 4 жыл бұрын

I went to the military first then college. Best decision of my life

@PaulsPubAndBrew 4 жыл бұрын

Skipping college was the best choice I ever made. I've been a computer programmer for nearly 20 years.

@omelmedina100 4 жыл бұрын

Wanna teach me the way?

@eziahnapitan123 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's amazing. Truly the life. I have a question for you: how did you learn coding? (Another question: Was it hard?)

@PaulsPubAndBrew 4 жыл бұрын

To start with, many jobs won't require college. Imagine walking into a car body shop. You tell them you can fix cars. They ask where you went to school. You point to your 57 Chevy in the parking lot and say "I restored that". They come out and look and are impressed. They like that you can learn on your own without being taught. They hire you. Meanwhile, consider you walked into a hospital and apply to be a surgeon. They ask where you went to school. You say you haven't, but you've removed splinters from your arm in the past. Obviously you are shown the door. Computer programming is the first example. You can easily find tutorials, source code, examples, help, and Q&A online. You must treat learning as a full-time job. You must work at least 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, for at least 6 months. 1000 hours. If this seems like a monumental task, it is. But it is far less hours than going to school. It's also free. That makes it a no-brainer. I got my first job in programming because I worked in customer support. I obtained a copy of the source code to one of their products, and proceeded to find bugs and correct them. They were impressed and gave me a shot. After nearly 20 years, I am in a good situation salary wise, and in heavy demand. I still receive job offers every week even in these uncertain times. Best of all, I enjoy what I do.

@jairomendoza9483 4 жыл бұрын

Paul Gardner may I ask where your from because I’m from north Cali and it’s hard to find a career with a sustainable salary to live here

@PaulsPubAndBrew 4 жыл бұрын

@@jairomendoza9483 I'm from MN. Salary was low the first few years. I was new and proving myself. I was ok with that. The company took a chance on a guy without a degree. They should get some benefit too along with myself. After that it increased rapidly.

@TheJustReyes 3 жыл бұрын

An electrician here, who did not go to college. Living in california making 65k a year. School wasnt my thing and I dont blame anyone for being pro or con college. My wife went to college and got her bachelors in nutrition. That made it all the better that i had my career down with no debt from school to provide for her financially. Now we're both well off because of our different choices. Make your choice. There are many routes

@thedude8526 3 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised she got a job with that degree. Its not exactly a degree known land you a job. Good that it worked out for her and kudos to working a trade. Blue collar jobs typically pay better than most degrees do which is a plus.

@twiggi2739 3 жыл бұрын

@@thedude8526 anything STEM is almost a guaranteed job

@jonho1764 3 жыл бұрын

How much do you enjoy your job?

@BoredBricks 3 жыл бұрын

$65k in CA is nothing. Even $100k a year in CA is nothing.

@diywithreza 3 жыл бұрын

@@BoredBricks Nobody asked

@evilotto9200 4 жыл бұрын

What's after college? If you haven't yet answered this for yourself, save your family the cost of tuition.

@LiQuiToad 4 жыл бұрын

What's after college? More college, of course!

@eziahnapitan123 4 жыл бұрын

Facts.

@joseescobedo7899 4 жыл бұрын

Well I assume it be search look for a job in youre makor

@josevilla943 4 жыл бұрын

@@joseescobedo7899 Not unless you want to be a doctor or a scientist. You have to do med school or graduate school.

@yobiwolrd07 3 жыл бұрын

Silly thing to say. Just go if you want to

@syawkcab 4 жыл бұрын

College no longer guarantees you a good job, but if you do it right, as in you make connections, get good grades, get internships, and do things that build your resume, you'll be a really strong candidate when you get out But if you squander the opportunity, it can be a waste unfortunately

@albertowilliams959 3 жыл бұрын

But can you say that thats much of a thing anymore, especially with this pandemic?

@mrknarf4438 3 жыл бұрын

Go to college to become someone, use that network, use that opportunity. Don't just float through, or it's going to be wasted. Information can be learned online, you must get the most out of everything else it offers.

@shrek19yearsago78 3 жыл бұрын

@@mrknarf4438 im going to trade school instead i want to become plumber no joke

@coffintears5821 3 жыл бұрын

@@shrek19yearsago78 good luck on your education

@charlesg7926 3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t go to college, I own a small business and I made $236,000 PERSONAL INCOME, AFTER EXPENSES last year. I’m age 28. (My gross income was $1.3 million.) IQ is way more important than college imo. I can’t say whether college is good or bad because my IQ is 147, I probably would’ve succeeded at either route. But it certainly annoys me when people say that “I won’t be successful bcuz I didn’t go to college” even tho I clearly fking am, and I own 3 rental properties lol

@easygoingdude9990 4 жыл бұрын

When I was struggling in college my dad told me something I'll never forget. He said that you're going there not to learn engineering but how to deal with people. It's a vaccine for real life. That helped me stick it out Edit : I'm quite surprised at the shit this stirred up in the replies two fucking years later. I will not go into details but when I broke down, struggling and was close to quitting my dad was there for me and told me what I needed to hear. This was my personal experience. If you cannot relate then honestly good for you. God forbid someone else's experience of life is different from yours. Muting notifications. I wish you all well

@nikunjmajithia5002 4 жыл бұрын

You can learn by practical experience not even a doctor needs a degree there is library for reason

@nikunjmajithia5002 4 жыл бұрын

You can learn by practical experience not even a doctor needs a degree there is libr

@alexo.3758 4 жыл бұрын

@@nikunjmajithia5002 I personally dont want a person who hasn't gone to college to perform a surgery on me

@bloodcottoncandy1514 4 жыл бұрын

@@alexo.3758 I would if he has worked on my friends and relatives well.

@nikunjmajithia5002 4 жыл бұрын

@@alexo.3758 they learn from books and youtube videos dont need degree that what people want you to think

@eos_2366 2 жыл бұрын

College has worked for me. Went to community college for two years and transferred to a university, seek internship and volunteered in many field of expertise. I make more money then I did without one and I paid of my 17k debt a year after. Just play your cards and make smart choices, like avoiding living like your rich.

@Aries16603 Жыл бұрын

That’s great! I just got my master’s degree and making more and more every year as a middle school teacher. I’ve been teaching for 8 years and making solid money.

@Kiwipre 4 ай бұрын

Congrats man!!! Would you say that most of these things that happened was from the network you built or was it because you made it all work?

@eos_2366 3 ай бұрын

@@Aries16603 that’s awesome!!

@eos_2366 3 ай бұрын

@@Kiwipre Glad you asked. I would say a little bit of both. Not recently as my last two jobs I had to apply to A LOT of jobs, but starting out yes! I landed on internships because I networker with professors and fellow classmates. It gave me a solid foundation for my resumes which made me get my feet wet and get the necessary experience to get my entry level. So networking indirectly helped me in the long run, but as you build up your levels, you have to solidly know your stuff and retain some of your knowledge from school. For example, the last three interviews I had, they were asking me about purification steps and enzymes. You learn things in the industry which are cookie cutters, but they wanted to know what actually was happening in the molecular level and how it applied to my job, which requires lots of background knowledge. Market is getting harder now not gonna lie, so networking, education, work experience, research all matters.

@piztech5168 11 күн бұрын

@ramanpreciado2241 3 жыл бұрын

I wanted to cry when you said it took you seven years and i felt like a failure if couldn't in 4 years,. So thank you bro for motivating me.

@AboveTheNoise 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry we're late to reply to this comment - but we are so glad that we could provide some inspiration! Good luck with your path.

@jlshoem 4 жыл бұрын

I went to college for 3 semesters. Then, I gave up. I was working part-time at a TV repair shop. I learned electronics. I became an electronic technician. That was in 1970. About 20 years ago, I took several Microsoft classes and got certificates for each class. I have been working as a computer technician since then, and I love the work and the pay. No regrets about college.

@AboveTheNoise 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your perspective! College is definitely not the ONLY way to go.

@qk5574 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone is forgetting about the kids that have parents who have no trade or degree and they are the first generation and have no guide!

@evanhdez 3 жыл бұрын

Yup especially those of us from immigrant families who’s parents never even finished high school in Mexico

@coffintears5821 3 жыл бұрын

My dad is a mechanic who dropped out of college and still got a good paying job.

@kelz3454 2 жыл бұрын

Bingo. You fall on your face before you realize you screwed up. Now your in debt. Financial education is everything. Get a real estate license and invest early.

@Im_Politically_stupid_and_dumb Жыл бұрын

@gk5574 What happens if your forced to go to college

@fritsonpetitfrere9038 Ай бұрын

@mprime1716 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t go to college right away. You have not the life experience to understand the value of education and it’s cost. Work first, learn how to earn $/save, and take internships/network, or join the military for the GI bill. Don’t screw your life over for students loans. It will delay and hinder your younger years and the debt will prevent you from buying a home or starting a family.

@user-hc4ib1yg2i 3 жыл бұрын

Most people have jobs in high school

@ichangedmyusernamebecausei2551 3 жыл бұрын

Can you still get a GI bill joining the military after college?

@bernardosanchez5954 3 жыл бұрын

Can you go to trade school and then transfer over to a university? (my friend got a full ride scholarship doing this)

@marvindessources5604 3 жыл бұрын

@@bernardosanchez5954 fact it's so underrated

@HuGiv5 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly most people have tons of debt to pay and are not doing well because of it.

@isaacthomas7272 3 ай бұрын

Amazing video, A friend of mine referred me to a financial adviser sometime ago and we got to talking about investment and money. I started investing with $150k and in the first 2 months, my portfolio was reading $274,800. Crazy right!, I decided to reinvest my profit and get more interesting. For over a year we have been working together making consistent profit just bought my second home 2 weeks ago and care for my family.

@isaacthomas7272 3 ай бұрын

@madidi_26 However, if you do not have access to a professional like JUDITH ANN PEACE, quitting your job to focus on trading may not be the best approach. It is important to consider all options and seek guidance from reliable sources before making any major decisions. Consulting with an AI or using automated trading systems can also be helpful in managing investments while balancing other commitments

@isaacthomas7272 3 ай бұрын

Lookup with her name on the webpage.

@isaacthomas7272 3 ай бұрын

@madidi_26 Judith Ann peace is her name

@isaacthomas7272 3 ай бұрын

@madidi_26 You are welcome

@Palzooe 3 жыл бұрын

that 100k to not go is sounding real good right now

@Taitmon 3 жыл бұрын

I attended college for 2 years, got my general studies and associate of science and liberal arts. After the 2 years my financial aid ran out and I was looking at a wall of debt if I chose to continue college. So, I looked at alternatives. I found a trade school for programming and became a mainframe sys programmer. Now I am working with people who owe 50K in debt for college loans. Note: if you take this path and end up working with people who just got out of college with student loans.... they can be a bit salty toward you because they didn't take a short cut. Really it all depends on you, your options, and what you want to do for a living. A key factor that set me apart was the fact that I grew confident in interviews by going to random interviews for jobs I would never take. Another factor was that I worked my way up to a manager position while in college. Good luck to you and your future whatever path you choose to take and remember the good Lord loves you.

@_mode_9921 3 жыл бұрын

Did you attend a community college or a university ?

@Taitmon 3 жыл бұрын

@@_mode_9921 well at first it was a community college but then a university bought it to receive more transferring students while I was attending which made everything worse.

@piztech5168 11 күн бұрын

@greevar 4 жыл бұрын

Going to college puts you in massive debt so you'll be desperate to take any job that will help you pay that debt back.

@genericchannel126 4 жыл бұрын

It aint about the debt - its the reward that come with it. A good job. With a good job you’ll pay it off in no time.

@Ryanbros 3 жыл бұрын

my grandparents and parents are so rich they can afford to pay upfront

@mariovazquez4436 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ryanbros good for you

@axk3l 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ryanbros You should go to college, since you really need it.

@Ryanbros 3 жыл бұрын

@@axk3l I do ?

@ilovedeactivatedaccounts 4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t ever have been able to afford my 4-year university. I went to my city/community college for 2 years then transferred to my university for the last 2 years. It was the most mentality straining process I’ve been through so far but I’m still very proud of the degree I got from my university.

@AboveTheNoise 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on making it through university! That's a big accomplishment, no matter what your opinion is about the question in our video title.

@alistairlee7604 4 жыл бұрын

Same here. I went to community college and transferred to UT Austin. I will graduate next year but the path to get here like you said is so straining. Good job!

@teronhouston3196 4 жыл бұрын

Can you elaborate

@phallondavenport470 3 жыл бұрын

@@alistairlee7604 Same here!!! I am going to a community college to earn my certificate program plus I will try to gain some experience in my field of study. Employers wants applicants to have a degree and experience these days.

@emmacat3202 4 жыл бұрын

Go to the community college first to save money. I wish I could have done that.

@Ryanbros 3 жыл бұрын

sorry i'm going to the JC for one year then transfering to a UC

@Jordan-px9bl 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ryanbros I’m transferring out of a 4 year to go to a community college for an associates lol

@qk5574 3 жыл бұрын

If I would have went to community college and found a decent transfer scholarship or slam thing equivalent I would be on top of the world right now

@jadam.2410 4 ай бұрын

why? Did this work out for you? Hope ur good!!

@gizmobowen 4 жыл бұрын

The favorite thing that I like about my degree is that it tells employers that I know how to learn something and put it to use. I think they're more willing to present you with opportunities if they think you'll have a good chance to succeed. I may be wrong but I think a college degree gives them more confidence in you. I know a lot of people who've gotten good jobs that aren't related to their degrees but were given a chance because they had a degree.

@AboveTheNoise 4 жыл бұрын

Great point!

@paranoiawilldestroyya3238 2 жыл бұрын

I had a chief of maintenance when I was in the military. Her degree was in social sciences. Didn't know a damned thing about working with people, but that sheepskin made her an officer. Thank God the military is actually run by NCOs.

@itsellacosta9381 4 жыл бұрын

I hate college....

@lisascott6318 3 жыл бұрын

Same

@EhCloserLook 3 жыл бұрын

High school was SO MUCH WORSE (for me).

@itsellacosta9381 3 жыл бұрын

@@EhCloserLookhow??

@ATX-js1to 3 жыл бұрын

@@EhCloserLook how bruh lol highschool suppose to be easy

@Bruh-ty5ql 3 жыл бұрын

@@EhCloserLook high school is a cakewalk compared to college. I went to school high every day and had A's and B's. You can't really pull that off in college...

@ctcboater 4 жыл бұрын

The most important thing to me: college opened up my mind to new ideas and experiences. Take courses outside your "vocational" center. They can be the most interesting.

@BecauseBroward Жыл бұрын

So glad I went the community college route for my undergrad. Watching my friend garner debt just to attend a “prestigious private” university and then not ever graduate. Just blows my mind.

@DuBstepAnDa98 4 жыл бұрын

This topic highly depends on the person and there really isn't a right or wrong way of what you choose (or chose) to do. It's just a matter of time and how you use it.

@dashanee0390 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Le_monsieur 3 жыл бұрын

Well the thing about me is that I plan on being self-employed, and run my own business, and I just don’t think college is built for that kind of profession.

@phayzyre1052 3 жыл бұрын

Isaac, you're correct! I know two people who went to college to get a degree in business management. Both of them currently run their own businesses and BOTH of them said looking back on it now college was a big waste of time and money. Today's society is so conditioned and transfixed on college it makes you think you have to have an engineering degree with a specialization in hydrodynamics just to unclog a stopped-up toilet. They ballyhoo about getting a degree but if you get that degree only to make X-amount of money whereas your trade-degreed Joe Six-pack neighbor who works on cars make three times what you make it tells me something is very wrong with that picture. The way I currently see it college is becoming a lot like the housing bubble from years ago and just like the housing bubble sooner or later its going to pop and the fallout from which isn't going to be pretty!

@ATX-js1to 3 жыл бұрын

You’re acting like taking on a business is easy lol get a job to build your funds and use that money to invest into your business

@ATX-js1to 3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I did atleast and it worked for me

@TheSpicyLeg 3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t go to college. Didn’t go to trade school. I went military for electronics and then apprenticed as an electrician. At 29 I started my own contractor’s business. I’m 38 now and take home about 250k a year. No, I don’t regret “missing” college. I learned discipline in the military, best lesson I ever received. I don’t begrudge anyone who chooses college, but don’t assume you’re more intelligent than I because you did.

@viktoriyaoneil2006 2 жыл бұрын

I think intelligence has nothing to do with education. You have it or you don’t. Good job on your business! 👍

@charlesanderson8335 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, and you can not get leadership and discipline in college

@whoseaskin5633 3 жыл бұрын

I had to write an essay about why college is important and why we should go even tho I’m not fond of the idea

@e_tron5103 4 жыл бұрын

Trades are awesome! There isn't a field that doesn't have trade schools you could go to instead of college.... beauty, construction, medicine, mechanics, computer &tech, cooking, real estate, business fiance, education, animals, bartending, art& Cinema etc. the list goes on there are trades for all fields something for everyone

@jonnyz5758 3 жыл бұрын

I understand you advocate for college, and as a former college student myself, I think college is the biggest waste of time, energy, and money. I left my third semester and went to the trades where I got my tuition free education while working. I will never regret that decision. The trades are an excellent option and I encourage it over college degree. Anyway. You see like most high school kids I was confused. Thinking that college was the only way to live comfortably and happy. As I got older I realized it was not. At all. I realized that the trades were looked upon by ignorant people. Including teachers and professors. Pure ignorance. Trades schools are pure gold for job security and satisfaction. Overall, I think college should be free for people since their risking a lot of factors for attending.

@Frisky_Beast 3 жыл бұрын

I went to a community college for 3 years, it helped in keeping my brain in use, but I eventually got my CDL through a job and 1 month of schooling gets you into 60k+ driving jobs, it's not for everyone, but there's a lot of opportunity in it with little to no cost

@tsuchan 4 жыл бұрын

I hire programmers, and although a highly relevant degree is not immaterial, I'm almost entirely interested in other things: the skills I need from the appicant, their ability to pick-up new technical skills, their people skills, their good character and honesty, their ownership of actions and customer focus. If you show me that you spent a year studying a language in antoher country, or doing volutary work; that's going to weigh heavier with me than a degree certificate. I have one of those, so I know their actual value!

@AboveTheNoise 4 жыл бұрын

You make a good point. But, just want to point out that you (with your degree) are the one doing the hiring.

@tsuchan 4 жыл бұрын

@@AboveTheNoise In tis case, you're right; but it's my own business and if I acquired any useful knowledge from that to help in an IT business, it's honestly nothing I couldn't have got much cheaper and just as effectively from reading a few choice books. What University gave me was a chance to make some friends. But I made friends later in a Japanese language school and subsequently in a Spanish language school. Those two studying parts of my life have been much more useful to me, and far cheaper then my university degree. As an IT contractor for hmmm, 20 years since university, I was never once asked for a degree. (It's true that contractors inhabit a place somewhat "outside the system".)

@sarahclaasen4317 4 жыл бұрын

I actually got a huge chunk of tuition taken off first years of college due to a parent being a university employee. I had experienced both the good parts about college and the bad parts about it. There were things that I thought needed to be improved with the way programs worked, but I do not regret going.

@ThisIsArt314 4 жыл бұрын

Skipped college to work at the post office and begin building my rental property portfolio at 18.

@mssha1980 3 жыл бұрын

It’s sad how they are trying to gut the USPS.

@ForumArcade 4 жыл бұрын

The decision of college was pretty much made for me by lack of money. Couldn't afford to go, and couldn't afford to not be working. So it was regular hourly jobs for me. I think the usefulness of college depends heavily upon your goals. If there's a particular field you want to work in, college may be a necessity, or it may at least be a very sound path. But if it's something you can practice and improve at on your own, then if you have the dedication, you can build a strong portfolio and establish yourself in a career faster and with less expense than you would have if you had gone the college route.

@AboveTheNoise 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience and perspective.

@ForumArcade 4 жыл бұрын

@@AboveTheNoise Anytime! Thank you for making these videos. They're well done.

@cellochel1582 7 күн бұрын

I saw that someone mentioned first generation students and the difficulties that they have. I was one of these people. Mom was a drop out, dad graduated with D’s. No college experience for them. I was in advanced courses, and in my district, that meant I was COLLEGE READY. My GPA was “too high” for the one financial literacy course that we had. They were pushing us to go to college. I felt like I had no other choice. I went to trade school eventually. My parents knew nothing about the FAFSA. They couldn’t help me even file it. I didn’t know what half of that stuff meant. My biological dad, that lived with us, wouldn’t even let me put his name down. I didn’t have a college fund. I had a job, but that was to pay for my food/clothes/car/insurance. I wasn’t emancipated, but I might as well have been. I had to take care of myself. That’s what happens when you grow up in an abusive/neglectful household. We weren’t rich anyway. So, I didn’t have a support system. Most family members were HS drop outs. My brother was as well, and I, being 6 years younger than my sister, was helping her with HER math homework. Both of them had horrible grades, while I had straight As. In a non-egotistical way, I was basically the smartest/most educated in my immediate family. Guidance counselors couldn’t help. They had 600+ students to tend to. Sad, really. Those are a few reasons why I never went. Not saying I won’t go and don’t want to, but just that I didn’t have the resources to be successful at that time. I’m sure a lot of teens that grew up in a sh*tty situation feel the same way. Going to college also depends on your background. I moved away instead! On the flip side, my husband’s family had a LOT of money, have always had a ton of money, and they’re all college educated and very successful. It’s one of the best families I’ve ever met, and the support they have for each other is astounding. Their college was mostly paid for. My husband decided to drop out of college and get a technical career. He paid it all himself - a child of divorce, with an abusive mother, and living with that mother for all of his teens.

@ivansalmoran3276 2 жыл бұрын

I decided to go to college. I am about to graduate with a 4 year degree plan and start working in Texas with a job salary of over 75k. Graduating with my bachelors degree and a wonderful transition from HS to college to the real life. Worth the experience and study for me.

@jadam.2410 4 ай бұрын

Hello, are you in STEM? I hope you’re doing well 1 year later! ☺️

@johnkidwell4866 2 жыл бұрын

Want a degree without debt? Three years in the army. I"m 28 with a bachelors and ZERO debt of any kind.

@SamiUddin13 4 жыл бұрын

I wish I would've gone to a trade school before I went to college. College teaches you too many useless courses that don't pertain to any real life applications in the career of your choice. Atleast with trade schools, you're taught skills that pertain to the career you want and get done quickly to get into the workforce.

@ATX-js1to 3 жыл бұрын

@@sierrablackwell2223 I’m an electrican at 19 and I agree most people my age don’t know what they’re doing but if you show up to work and soak in all the knowledge you can master being a electrican...it’s just a matter of how bad you want it

@ATX-js1to 3 жыл бұрын

@@sierrablackwell2223 I don’t understand on how people can’t measure

@drop_messages6226 3 жыл бұрын

Universities have 2 sales pitches to hook students. One is to sell them on the more marketable majors like: STEM or business. then, for the students who do. not want to. major in a maketable major, there is still the idea that its the professional networks and. connections you make that really get you a job. Problem is, there is tens of thousands of students graduating with marketable degrees from prestigous universities, and some of them are having a hard time finding a job. So, if you have a liberal arts degree from a mid tier state. college, you are competing with them and still have student loans to deal with. There is a lot of truth to making social connections, you need emotional intelligence to make. social connections.

@A_J___ 4 жыл бұрын

2012 Age 23: Earned bachelors in psychology. Moved to NYC for model agency internship. Left after 1 week due to living arrangements. 2013 Age 23: Back home. Waiter at a pizza place. Was to start grad school in Global Marketing Communications and Advertising 2013 Age 24: Waiter at a museum cafeteria because grad school plans fell through (got accepted, didn't plan correctly financially). 2014 Age 24:Fled to NYC due to job frustrations and worked as a fashion photographer and caterer 2015 Age 25: Moved back home. Quit call center job after day 2. Quit Sears after 2 weeks.Worked in another call center.Was to start Art Direction program. Continued working in call center because school plans fell through again (Dad changed mind about consigning on Sallie Mae loan).Freelance photography 2016 Age 26: Still worked in call center (growing tired a frustrated).Freelance photography 2017 Age 27: Still worked in call center. Grew very tired and frustrated and got fired.Freelance photography 2018 Age 28: Full-time freelance photography. Worked at call center #3 and quit after 2 weeks. Worked in call center #4 and quit after almost 2 months. Started grad school for Urban Design 2019 Age 29: Graduated grad school finally. Worked at Amazon warehouse (would stand in one place in shock from time to time then get back to stocking shelves and pushing carts. Occasionally asked if I was "ok" by coworkers). Worked at call center #5.Freelance photography 2020 Age 30 *Covid-19*: Fired from call center again. Worked at call center #6. Left call center after 3 weeks. Starting 2nd masters program in Architecture in fall Thoughts: Still can't believe I'm 30/had NO IDEA this would be my path after college/searched for direction, meaning, purpose, fulfillment, peace. hope. satisfaction,stability, truth, respect, power,love, money, God, and happiness

@vishalhensley1953 4 жыл бұрын

How did you go about quitting? - a person who just stops going

@moeelza7816 4 жыл бұрын

I hope things get better for you mate. As long as you're healthy and happy that's all what matters

@dantapp5925 3 жыл бұрын

my life will probably be like yours, congrats though, you beat me at getting a degree first.

@jonho1764 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your life experience

@LucidStew 4 жыл бұрын

The liberal arts education you receive at a university is archaic and focuses far too much on subjects outside of the major course of study. Having gone through the experience twice now, and with some life experience under my belt, I fell like this is partly down to the way bureaucracies work. In some way bureaucracies function to continue and extend themselves even if neither are particularly useful. General ed. requirements at colleges and universities often fall into this trap where it seems like the function of the course is more to provide a staff position, and thereby expand the bureaucracy necessary to support those positions, rather than to impart any meaningful or useful education.

@kendrick4l511 2 жыл бұрын

My girl work needed her degree from her last week and I was worried about her loosing her job 😴 but everything good now only because of deelscafe good work 👍.

@Leochner_Actor 4 жыл бұрын

Currently I attend graduate school to get an MFA. For me, the college route was the right one because I find the academic environment to be the one I feel most comfortable in. So I concede I am biased towards it and will always promote it. That said, I know that it isnt the route for everyone. You bring up excellent points about the value of things like trade schools and apprenticeships. I think if a person believes those paths would be more beneficial to them, they should explore them. My preference is for people to research and consider at least community college, both for lower costs and the experience. But I dont think anyone should ever be pressured into going. They shouldn't be made to think that they can't have a successful life without a degree. If someone wants to pursue a Bachelors or Masters degree, they should do a ton of research. Really consider what they are passionate about and what schools they would want to spend several years attending. In addition, they need to develop a financial plan. Research grants and scholarships and see if its viable to work and go to school. I can't in good conscience recommend taking loans because I believe its too risky. These are some of my thoughts. Thank you for reading them and thank you for an informative video.

@hc1ee353 4 жыл бұрын

What did you major/ are majoring in? :)

@Leochner_Actor 4 жыл бұрын

@@hc1ee353 When I was in undergrad, I majored in Theatre Arts. Now that im in grad school, my major is the Master of Fine Arts in Television, Film & Theatre/Acting. Sorry, we're required to write it all out when listing it. Haha.

@hc1ee353 4 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Leochner That’s super cool! I would love to act but I can’t sadly haha. I wish you the best in grad school!

@Leochner_Actor 4 жыл бұрын

@@hc1ee353 Thank you. :)

@ChicaneMedia 2 жыл бұрын

If you think college is a learning environment you're wrong but not entirely. Sure you "learn" but most topics can be covered from self learning. With how the internet is in 2022, knowledge is so easily obtainable from the web in professional and scholar sites at no cost. College is an environment to see if you qualify for a piece of paper. Even if you attend co-op or interns, build connections and meet new people it means nothing without that certificate. As a senior about to grad college I highly suggest you find what you want to do as a career before attending any programs; and if you do and dislike it leave asap. I waited too long so I've chosen to finish the 3 year program just so I can get the diploma and something out of my wasted time.

@MarielHn 3 жыл бұрын

I went to college and I graduated but it was a painful experience and I am really glad that I do not have to go to college ever again.

@viktoriyaoneil2006 2 жыл бұрын

What did you study? 😅

@jcolumbiap 2 жыл бұрын

Well said! I am doing rather well with no college education! 0 debt and unlimited possibilities!

@reach4thestars67 4 жыл бұрын

Your career choice dictates weather you need a 4 year degree or 2 year. You will be a success either way if you are following your passion and know how to manage your finances.

@Ryanbros 3 жыл бұрын

i need two four year degrees

@ecomwithTrevor 3 жыл бұрын

Not going to college was and currently my best decision. 4 solid years to work on my business. In just a few months alone in high school, I'm making more than the principals.

@anthonymonterroza7875 3 жыл бұрын

What business are you in?

@ecomwithTrevor 3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonymonterroza7875 Ecommerce

@eggstravagent3801 2 жыл бұрын

How did you do it?

@georger6624 2 жыл бұрын

So very true a lot of people that do not have college usually owned businesses that the people who go to college work for

@Pbofficial743 4 жыл бұрын

This is why we need to get the government out of higher education, it simply props up prices and makes people think they NEED a college degree. Our workforce is no more useful with people who have religious studies degrees (I have one, so I can say that) than with people who have high school diplomas. It's an extra four years of debt and lost income, plus in the case of a lot of majors doesn't increase your skills nearly as much as those lost four years of work experience or perhaps trade school would. We need the government out of higher education so tuition isn't artificially propped up and people can make their own decisions on whether to make this investment or go another route.

@bs4real 2 жыл бұрын

Bulls-it!! College can help you have a secure life.

@thomasvittetoe1930 3 жыл бұрын

I went to truck driving school, cost about 5-7k and now I make 100k a year, say a good return on investment

@thedude8526 3 жыл бұрын

No kidding. Tough job though depending on what kind of truck driver you are. Then again, no well paying job is easy.

@thomasvittetoe1930 3 жыл бұрын

@@joel0990 I'm a company driver so don't have to pay for all that plus I'm home every other day

@alpharule573 3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasvittetoe1930 what type of trucker are you?

@thomasvittetoe1930 3 жыл бұрын

@@alpharule573 I drive for Tran papa logistics ( papa johns) delivering the food to the stores so not only do I drive but also have to unload the trailer

@mssha1980 3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasvittetoe1930 yea from what I hear company drivers can do well

@ToopidPonay 4 жыл бұрын

Although I know it’s not the right choice for everyone, going to college (4-year university) was definitely the right choice for me. However, I didn’t go right after high school which I really recommend doing if you can. Because I waited to go, I got a few years of my college completely paid for by the state/gov because I was old enough to be seen as fully independent from my parents meaning more financial aid. I do have some student loan debt but I did much better than my peers because I waited to go. And before I left for college I spent a few years after high school working which helped me save some money before I left. Why I think the 4-year, traditional path was best for me? I believe it was because I needed the structure and I also met so many people (expanded my network) by attending a large university. I think I could have done trade school and still been successful but my bachelor’s degree gives me the opportunity to apply to jobs in a variety of fields that I wouldn’t have had with just a trade degree. So for all those reasons it was worth it for me. However, I definitely think the US can do better. Even with all the financial aid I got I still worked throughout college to pay for my other various expenses. It would be great if college could be less expensive or offered more financial aid that doesn’t have to be repaid. Private loans are very predatory and it’s going to take me at least 5-6 years to pay off the balance I have! So my advice is to avoid private loans at all costs and wait to go if you can so you’re seen as independent from your parents. And, in my opinion, there’s no need to go to an out of state school. It costs so much more to be out of state and unless your family is rolling in dough it’s just not worth it. And state schools are just as good as private and are far cheaper! Most companies don’t care what college you went to as long as you have a degree!

@Isaiahkool1671 3 жыл бұрын

How old were you when you went if you dnt mind me asking?

@ToopidPonay 3 жыл бұрын

@@Isaiahkool1671 I started college at a public, 4-year university at the age of 21. Graduated at 25. 😊

@viktoriyaoneil2006 2 жыл бұрын

@@ToopidPonay , interesting! Thanks for sharing your experience!

@phillipborbon2059 4 жыл бұрын

Neither, just go to a company and work your way up. I've done both trade and college.

@fernandocruz1539 3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean explain please

@marianomarini8261 3 жыл бұрын

How are you getting hired by that company if it requires that college degree (bachelor)

@jenny2814. 3 жыл бұрын

Mariano Marini Most don’t it’s not 1980 no more

@Ryanbros 3 жыл бұрын

sorry i'm going to med school ( doctorate )

@ATX-js1to 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ryanbros well good for you

@nikcue2542 Жыл бұрын

I been on both sides for many years. Union Trade=$46 an hour College Degree=$3000+ a week. ( Fyi: It depends on what career you choose as well) Frankly, the question you need to ask yourself is...are you in it for the money?...or for the love of the game?

@EhCloserLook 3 жыл бұрын

DEFINITELY include me in that 51% statistic! I graduated from a renowned engineering school in the states, but I definitely regret it. Now I’m back in college going for a second Bachelor’s in a field that I am much more passionate about. 😩

@Davysprocket213 3 жыл бұрын

I got a degree, in the mid 90s, that I’m not using. My old job required it, not my current one. I wish I had started the trade in which I now work, sooner. University was a good experience for me, but I wouldn’t do it today, when one semester costs more than my entire education. It’s not worth it.

@Texasjim2007 3 жыл бұрын

I got paid by the GI Bill to get my first college degree but the only thing I actually got out of it was promotion points when I reenlisted in the Army which was what paid for most of my second college degree. Do not take out a loan for anything. If you do you'll always spend a lot more time paying it off with interest than you would just saving up for whatever you want the loan for. Some jobs require a minimum level of education to qualify for of course but staying out of jail gives you a lot more opportunities than any college degree will.

@nicolasoke7421 4 жыл бұрын

Short answer: Yes, but only if it'll qualify you for a big time six-figure or professional job.

@AboveTheNoise 4 жыл бұрын

Are there any non-financial reasons to consider going to college?

@Ryanbros 3 жыл бұрын

@@AboveTheNoise getting to learn about what you love and getting your dream job ?

@aleciaist 3 жыл бұрын

Graduated college in a pandemic.. a once in a lifetime thing.. 🤧

@sarahgracey8657 4 жыл бұрын

I’m currently studying at a private campus and it’s got me thinking is this all there is to life?. I don’t know where to go from here, I’m lost😪and college is damn expensive

@bpjreactstv4998 3 жыл бұрын

Same here Tbh

@bpjreactstv4998 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like all there is to life is working and slaving for someone else

@bpjreactstv4998 3 жыл бұрын

I'm currently a college freshmen who's failing 2 classes 66 and 65 and I feel like a failure

@jenny2814. 3 жыл бұрын

BPJ Reacts TV then why stay

@thedude8526 3 жыл бұрын

@@bpjreactstv4998 Why not try a trade or an apprenticeship? You can be an electrician or plumber and make fairly good money as you are learning. School is definitely not for everyone.

@rednecktek2873 4 жыл бұрын

My wife has a bachelor's degree, I've been to trade college twice (Job Corps and Seattle Maritime, different careers) and I pay more in taxes after deductions than my wife ever grossed in a year. Yeah, college has potential, but it's a MUCH more expensive gamble than trade college, takes a LOT more time and investment (both my programs were a year or less), and pretty much destroys you financially in the hopes that it'll pay out "in the long run". Granted, most trades take a special kind of crazy to work in, but for people like me who prefer to work with their hands rather than breeding paperwork, traditional college just has no appeal.

@vishalhensley1953 4 жыл бұрын

What jobcorp?

@paranoiawilldestroyya3238 2 жыл бұрын

The key to success in life is to know what kind of crazy you are.

@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting video! Elevator installers make almost as much as PAs and, more than health educators . My kids are attending community college and work-development programs. I think once parents can get over worrying about their kids "making it"😟💸 or, the ego thing ("What does YOUR child do?"👨🏻‍⚕️😤), more of us will encourage our kids to engage in innovative life options, after high school (other than convential college).🙄 I wish you ALL the best of success in your positive endeavors. 👋🏾👨🏾‍⚕️

@computer-training-for-seniors 11 ай бұрын

All college teaches you is to look down on those who never graduated.

@lp5398 2 жыл бұрын

When you go to college. Not only do you pay the fees but you also dont work as much as you would if you worked a full time job. After you finish college. Your net worth gained might be $0. But the person who worked full time might have 50k or something. If both people then earn the same salary then it wasnt worth it at all. If the college grad makes 10k more per year (so around 6k after tax) It would take almost 10 YEARS to catch up in terms of net worth to the person who skipped college and worked full time

@shushacake4533 4 жыл бұрын

Me in middle school learning from online school: My teacher:gives video of college Me:do I look old to you

@paranoiawilldestroyya3238 2 жыл бұрын

1:12: If you want to work in a job that requires a college degree, then yes, it's the ticket. On the other hand, there's the old saying: a person with a Bachelor of Science degree says "How does it work?", a person with a Bachelor of Liberal Arts Degree says "Do you want fries with that?" The term "liberal arts" means "studies for those who don't need to work." Look it up. I have an AAS (two of them, actually), and I proofread the work of a neighbor who got a MBA they probably didn't deserve (often I had a hard time trying to figure out what they were tryng to say, and had to make a phone call, or infer from other cues: yikes!). The most important factor in my job is State licensing. I'm not saying that college education is not important if you want to be a doctor or an engineer (don't get me started on lawyers), and I'm not saying that if you have a few hundred grand to spend for a degree in art appreciation, you shouldn't be allowed to do that, but the concept that EVERYONE should have a college education is ridiculous. I have worked in the homes of many college-educated people who have no clue how the infrastructure of their house works. I also worked in a food lab for awhile (as an intern for my second associates degree, and hired mostly because of my experience in electronics work to fix the out of warranty equipment in the lab), and the degreed microbiologists asked me what a piece of equipment I was working with was: it was a soldering iron. (Decided not to write a novel.) The truth of the matter is that a college education is only one of many paths to success in life, and all of these paths are necessary and equally valid.

@strawberrysky2632 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like enrolling this year was a mistake to be honest

@danielnava1210 3 жыл бұрын

How's it going

@jessikagaines1681 3 жыл бұрын

Me too 😩 I thought I was ready but I see I wasn’t !

@ben_cena 3 жыл бұрын

College is better than high school in many ways. However, when it comes to something specific you are studying, and your professors start telling you the nuts and bolts about the job and decide not to be in that particular field, it wastes money. For example, this person is studying to become an actress, and her junior, she finds out she has to leave her hometown; she doesn't want to be far away from her family. So she decides not to become an actress, and she ends up ten years later working at Walmart. It can go that way with anyone for the type of job they have.

@404TRUCKERTV Жыл бұрын

Trade schools are just as bad as college. They charge 20 to 50k to be a mechanic. White collar or blue collar careers, it's all about how you enter the field, it's best to learn the job through apprenticeship, working on the job, working your way up and let the company pay for your certifications or degree. Many office jobs will teach you sales, customer service and presentation skills. As a well as many plumbers and mechanics will teach you how to fix cars and install pipes.

@jamesschrock2693 4 жыл бұрын

You forgot about going to the military after highschool

@lacosta0892 4 жыл бұрын

That’s what I plan on doing, and while I serve I plan on getting a degree in space studies through AMU for the time after my contract is up

@jessica0716 3 жыл бұрын

I know it’s about money but why sell your soul to rich people that don’t care about you?

@alexandergoodwin-elam6996 3 жыл бұрын

@@lacosta0892 Bro... you prob gonna get cancer or sum from the shit places you’re going to be forced into. Just saying.... your autonomy may not be worth the US army

@bingus9984 4 жыл бұрын

I really regret going to college when I did given how I'm about to graduate and there are no jobs

@vishalhensley1953 4 жыл бұрын

what field

@m.k.h.2718 2 жыл бұрын

Unless you're one of the few people in the world who are highly self-motivated, conscientious, disciplined, and learn concepts easily, going to college might be your best bet to getting not just a formal education, but also a better work ethic

@devil5cry 4 жыл бұрын

go through the college with GI bill LOL

@Moonshinedave1 4 жыл бұрын

I chose to go the trade school route, and have made a pretty decent living. I believe there is a need for both. Of course there are exceptions, but just a high school degree is a very bad choice. Again, the opinion of someone who didn't go to college: there are two kind of college students, one who plans are getting the education to secure a good paying job, and a good way of life. and those working on their PHD in basket weaving, (college is just party time, and a great place to hang out on mom and dad's dime).

@aaronkiker4408 3 жыл бұрын

All I can say is I went to trade school for welding in 03 for 7 months and my brother went to a 4 year college for language logistics. I started put making 55k a year and made anywhere from 65k to 100k every year after that, currently at around the 136-146k mark. My college brother couldn't even find a job for his field. That's because the jobs for most degrees don't even exist anymore. (Legal racketeering) for jobs that don't exist anymore but the education for them is still sold and at a high price. Plumber, electrician, welding, diesel mech, lineman. These are trades that never expire. Their markets are the very last to crash and never have before. Stop being fooled by colleges and degrees.

@AboveTheNoise 3 жыл бұрын

You make a compelling case. Thanks for sharing your and your brother’s experience.

@kynchan3332 3 жыл бұрын

The awful brain washing that goes on in promoting useless education is terrible too, how your sibling might try to keep looking for what does not exist years and decades later and might even enter the formal education business to promote what does not work when all else fails. You've seen the real world and could probably help your sibling to tell them to cut their losses and start from here. But you'll find it hard work getting through mentally, to push through the mess left behind by corrupt people pushing a certain narrative.

@Skylar_Spirit 2 жыл бұрын

Went active duty military, been in for 12 years and still going. Free college, over 400k saved up and retirement coming soon.

@DoremiFasolatido1979 3 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. It's worth it in the sense that we desperately need more scientists, doctors, teachers, and engineers of all types. . It's not worth it in the sense that college today is extremely wasteful. Doctors don't need fucking English Lit. Go to school to become a goddamned doctor, not to "broaden your horizons". But, nearly all universities mandate an entirely unnecessarily broad curriculum no matter what one's chosen field, is. . It's less that College is a bad idea...they're absolutely essential...but they need to be handled more like trade schools. . Another major flaw in the structure of both types of school, is the fact that knowledge gained in a particular field of study is never counted towards the study of related fields. For example, a degree in particle physics doesn't grant any advantage toward earning a degree in chemistry...in spite of the fact that everything that governs how chemistry operates, is particle physics.

@PrimeDiam 2 жыл бұрын

Doctors need advanced English. It's recommended to take advanced writing classes to get into medical schools.

@vincentortega4284 3 жыл бұрын

College is not for everyone; have a well thought out plan on what you will be doing with your college degree. Do not just take out loans and be drowning in student loans.

@danieldelacruz7305 4 жыл бұрын

You’ll get more respect and a better safer job security. A degree is worth the experience and my advice is never never ever go to a private college is not worth it. Go to a public college and if you want to pursue a masters or beyond then attend a private college depending on what you wanna do. If you want to be a lawyer there’s no need to get yourself in debt you can attend a public law school. They pay by experience not for the school you go to. That’s BS if Tesla or Netflix and these people speaking don’t require a college degree why don’t they hire regular people to do these jobs? It makes no sense what they’re saying!

@trippylong8580 3 жыл бұрын

Trade schools get right to the course,they don't waste time requiring courses you don't need

@wynignatius9289 4 жыл бұрын

still, majority of the Filipinos were college graduates but the unemployment is still occurring before the coronavirus.

@iliebelieveme502 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah our problem is we teach kids that you need a four year degrees in order to be productive. Oh what lies we teach!

@alyssajones4368 4 ай бұрын

Nowadays if folks don't want to go to university/college (whatever their reason), then they are automatically labeled as a failure from those who are attending college. Sad society we are.

@danieliglesias1314 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone whose thinking about getting into a Trade. I recommend it. Many people aren’t willing to do the hard work anymore, it’s understandable Bc over time you’ll be beaten. As long as you’re taking care of your health. You’ll go a long way. I know Welders/ Plumbers/ Electricians/ etc. Making around 60k/100k. A majority in their mid 20s. The more experience over time. The bigger the pay.

@angusdog22 9 ай бұрын

Skip college , Skip trade school, go to an apprenticeship school. No tuition just union dues, make money while you learn. Eventually you get benefits and pension.

@XavierZara 4 жыл бұрын

Faster than the speed of sound

@JennaRose957 2 жыл бұрын

I tried trade school and it was definitely not worth it unfortunately, so now I’m getting a degree cuz it’s my last hope

@Jayg2420 3 жыл бұрын

Is money your motivation? Then you don't need college. Just save and invest.

@santigabriel333 2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@harrypotter-kz5vv 3 жыл бұрын

Is anybody else watching this video for school.... I have to write an essay about the value of a college education. It's due today lol

@freshface2991 3 жыл бұрын

I got an AA and that’s it. I just work to live and didn’t have debt from [community] college. I live a humble life as long as I can eat and pay the bills and rent. A 4-year university would’ve been too risky.

@Melissa-ht2fp 3 жыл бұрын

What do you work in? I am getting my AA and getting my high school diploma at the same time.

@freshface2991 3 жыл бұрын

@@Melissa-ht2fp I used to be a personal trainer, but I've been furloughed. I honestly don't really care to go back into that. I now work in retail.

@duannehaughton4893 Жыл бұрын

I am an instructional tutor in a graduate program to be certified elementary teacher. Lots of tests, costs, parking permits, long days, and student teaching coming up. Look forward to being in the career when done.

@ProfessorElectronic 4 жыл бұрын

How much you earn in life depending on how high demand for your skill set is.

@brandonhuggins1949 3 жыл бұрын

very true

@christianatanga3124 3 жыл бұрын

Why is it that in most countries people who didn't go or finished school have a lot of money and does who did don't have that money

@kathaiti 3 жыл бұрын

The people who did not go to college had work/life experience, so they learned how to manage their finances.

@AdamSno 2 ай бұрын

Love your channel and topics bro, keep up the good work!

@dangitjacques5133 4 жыл бұрын

I probably wouldn’t have gone to a 4 year college to be a nurse but most hospitals make you go back to get your bachelors in nursing anyway

@phallondavenport470 3 жыл бұрын

It's because a bachelor degree in nursing can open doors to many careers in the hospital. Associate degree in nursing is good and it does help put your foot in the door, but if you want a promotion or a change of career in the hospital a bachelor degree is required

@viktoriyaoneil2006 2 жыл бұрын

@@phallondavenport470 , hospitals don’t care if you grow in your career. They want to have a high good rating and nurses with BSN are part of it.

@user-ok8cd9gg4u 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great video.

@camellia_black 4 жыл бұрын

I dropped out of high school in my freshman year, got my GED last year, and now I'm in community college. I do good in class but I kid you not, I have no god damned idea about the long term financial aspects which will probably determine whether or not I can afford rice when I'm 30. I wanted to learn again, and I wanted to pursue journalism as a career (which incidentally doesn't pay well), so I found a way. I've basically been cruising from class to class, racking up credits that MIGHT be applicable to my non-existent journalism degree program, in the hopes of transferring somewhere. All the while being unable to shake the suspicion that this is all some sort of elaborate torture and/or brainwashing facility.

@AboveTheNoise 4 жыл бұрын

Yowza! I hope you figure things out!

@user-fu6vc2nr1b 4 ай бұрын

College is not for everyone some are more suited to going to a trade we will always need tradesmen and most college grads can't get jobs be a skilled tradesman and you'll never be out of work.

@MrEZW 4 жыл бұрын

Journeyman in my trade gross over $300k/year. Let me know when your bachelors degree can make you that much money.

@AboveTheNoise 4 жыл бұрын

What field!? Asking for a friend . . .

@MrEZW 4 жыл бұрын

@@AboveTheNoise Powerline Construction. Specifically in CA. Wage is $60/hr. Plus $100/day per diem. We average 60-80hrs a week. So you do the math.

@MrEZW 4 жыл бұрын

Oh & btw, all over time is double time, & over time is every hour worked past 8hrs a day.

@walesthinker8806 4 жыл бұрын

Does your company offer benefits (401k, stock options, medical insurance, etc)?

@MrEZW 4 жыл бұрын

@@walesthinker8806 Best benefits you can get. Me & my family are 100% covered medical, dental, vision. All I have to do is work 120hrs a month & no monthly premium either, $0 co-pays. No 401k, we have a retirement pension.

@its_saber1525 3 жыл бұрын

My step brother is in college and it took 2 and 1/2 YEARS to learn about what he went for. If you go to college, you should learn what you went for. Not other nonsense

@RodrigoBarbosaBR 4 жыл бұрын

I had the luck of being in a position of starting different colleges. I haven't finished the first 4 (all STEM), and ended up running with my trade school degree. At age 36 I started in law school, fell in love, and I now have a masters in law. My point is that choosing your career when you are that young, right out of high school, most often than not doesn't work. Having a trade school degree allowed me to get financially secure and mature enough to discover what I wanted to do with my life.

@eziahnapitan123 4 жыл бұрын

How do you decide which trade to go into?

@platinumpineapple9943 4 жыл бұрын

KAMARS electrician

@platinumpineapple9943 4 жыл бұрын

KAMARS oil field blue collar contruction

@diegoyanesholtz212 Жыл бұрын

The question is that you shouldn't go to college, but when. You can do college later in your life. Why you have to go to college when you are 18-19. You can work, and go to college when you are 25. Is not wriiten in stone.