Is Dwight Howard a Top-75 player of all time? Stephen A. and Kendrick Perkins debate | First Take

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Kendrick Perkins and Stephen A. Smith debate on weather Dwight Howard should have been on the NBA top 75 of All-Time list over Bill Walton.
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@omara1854
@omara1854 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight is a 8x all star, 8x all nba, 4x top 5 in MVP voting, 3 times a DPOY, not to mention being the best player on a team that made the finals (Orlando). How does this resume not crack the top 75?
@Aerohitman
@Aerohitman 2 жыл бұрын
Cause Damian Millard is better…duh…🤣🤣🤣 the list was interesting
@thesecretperk
@thesecretperk 2 жыл бұрын
cuz of a lot of factors
@jerryzheng7114
@jerryzheng7114 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Bill Warton is a bad example though. Dame and AD ahead of Dwight to me is the more obvious problem.
@sherpadog6412
@sherpadog6412 2 жыл бұрын
plus nba championship with the lakers
@brrr3301
@brrr3301 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerryzheng7114 yeah AD only had like 2 playoff apperances in his 7 year career before Lebron recruited him and no real accolade, Dwight was 3-time DPOY, 5-time Allstar, 4 All-NBA First team, 3 All-NBA Defensive First team, 3 rebounding leader, 2 block leader and most importantly made it to the Finals facing botht the Celtics, Lakers and MVP Lebron in the same playoffs in that same 7 years, what did AD do?
@junaidshahzad6803
@junaidshahzad6803 2 жыл бұрын
Even when Dwight was a role player in Charlotte he had a ridiculous 30-30 game. He’s earned his spot as an all timer
@splash_basketball
@splash_basketball 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight is definitely top 75 or at least close to it when looking at his resume, he’s got a bunch of accolades
@harveyscottz
@harveyscottz 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but it's a hard list considering there's a lot of great player. The top 75 is based on their achievements and influence in the game. Let's be honest about that. I mean, can you imagine if you pick 2008-09 Dwight Howard and drop him on the court like a time machine, and let him play in 1960s with Kareem, Walton, Bill Rus & Wilt? Have you even seen how those player played in the 60s? Have you even compared Dwight Howard's physique over those players? You know what's the answer.
@knockout9446
@knockout9446 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making me laugh.
@justinr1513
@justinr1513 2 жыл бұрын
@@harveyscottz You're acting like we're putting him at the top of the list. No, he's towards the bottom but still top 75.
@TaylorGangOrDieBoi
@TaylorGangOrDieBoi 2 жыл бұрын
So do we supposed to forget about the years in Houston, Atlanta, DC etc.? Because those years are on his resume right?
@kingsleyoppong-wereko7239
@kingsleyoppong-wereko7239 2 жыл бұрын
Leaving Dwight out off this list kind of shows the NBA doesn’t appreciate flat out defence.
@jlui21
@jlui21 2 жыл бұрын
- never like Dwight in ORL but yeah, he's a top 75 player. I'd take him over Klay Thomspon for Top 75.
@charlieprince8671
@charlieprince8671 2 жыл бұрын
What makes it so bad is that not only was he one of if not the best defender in the NBA during that run he was also putting up like 12 boards and 20+ppg so its not like he was a specialist he was genuinely one of the best all around players in the league.
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 2 жыл бұрын
Not true because Dennis Rodman made the list and he was a defensive player. Rodman only averaged over 9ppg ONCE in his career and wasn't really a rim protector. However, he was the best rebounding big in the modern era and his versatility on defense makes him legendary. There's still no way Dwight Howard doesn't make this list. It's all personal and recency bias to exclude him. Listen to SAS try to come up with a reason to include Klay over Dwight despite Klay never ever being the best player on his own team or having the individual accolades. People rightfully praise Klay's defense, but ignore that there wasn't a better defensive player in the league than Dwight for consecutive years?! Klay has ONE defensive team nod to his resume in 8 years (not counting last two seasons).
@Gnofg
@Gnofg 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why defense is not as respected is because offense is much more difficult of a skill. In basketball offense takes greater coordination. Every person who plays a lot of basketball is constantly working on their coordination. Defense takes desire and quickness but offense is what all players really respect.
@Freddy-kw5hq
@Freddy-kw5hq 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen a is right though most people who even are commenting on this never seen Bill Walton play
@janseanmarwyn4703
@janseanmarwyn4703 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Dame and AD They aren't even out of their primes yet Dwight definitely deserves a spot over them
@strtupj882
@strtupj882 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Dame and AD need more.
@Surgeon806
@Surgeon806 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@BIGDRXXMR444
@BIGDRXXMR444 2 жыл бұрын
I'll put ad over him, but not dame yet
@matthewjohnson5054
@matthewjohnson5054 2 жыл бұрын
Preach. They are projecting them to be better but as of today Howard was better. I don’t think people appreciate how he has became a great role player. Not a lot of superstars can do that
@presidentville
@presidentville 2 жыл бұрын
Based on this logic Shaq shouldn't have been in the top 50 when they put him on
@internetgoob
@internetgoob 2 жыл бұрын
They really ranked AD higher than my mans too. There’s not a single possibility where Anthony Davis leads the 09 Magic to the Finals. No chance.
@phantomn0kk279
@phantomn0kk279 2 жыл бұрын
If the entire eastern conference was hurt and the top three players all ended up as magic players 😂
@allcinionexplainsitall5869
@allcinionexplainsitall5869 2 жыл бұрын
@@phantomn0kk279 excuses
@phantomn0kk279
@phantomn0kk279 2 жыл бұрын
@@allcinionexplainsitall5869 it’s a joke lighten up. All I said was the only way he could’ve possibly did it would have been if every other team was injured
@allcinionexplainsitall5869
@allcinionexplainsitall5869 2 жыл бұрын
@@phantomn0kk279 oh ok my bad
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin 2 жыл бұрын
Why not??? Who on the Celtics with no KG or on the Cavs could stop AD with a bunch of shooters around him???
@Spider-ManHQ
@Spider-ManHQ 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of question is this? - Champion - 8x All-Star - 8x All-NBA - 3x DPOY - 5x All-Defense - 5 Rebounds Titles - 2 Blocks Titles - Averaged 14.9 pts, 12.5 rebs, and 1.5 blks on 59.6% FG during the "bad years" of 2014-15 to 2017-18 - Career Playoff Averages of 23.8 pts, 11.8 rebs, and 2.1 blks in the Eastern Conference Finals Dwight Howard is Top 75. He's greater than Davis
@tonygotbars8835
@tonygotbars8835 2 жыл бұрын
Dude literally averaged a double double each year. An was the best center in the league
@Kcazbarach
@Kcazbarach 2 жыл бұрын
summer tournament winner***, but even without 2020-his resume was amazing in his prime. dwight shoulda been on there over AD easily
@dariusoutlaw9269
@dariusoutlaw9269 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@tadeokrzos2550
@tadeokrzos2550 2 жыл бұрын
Lol imagine those numbers being bad years gg. If Dwight would have stayed consistent with his playing after he left Orlando he would have easily been top 20 lol. The man overall career and accomplishments are better than Davis if we are talking about now. Idk how Davis is ahead of him lmao.
@dauctorphil
@dauctorphil 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight over AD all day
@cazu3607
@cazu3607 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that dame and ad were put over dwight is just hilarious
@reodagreo7637
@reodagreo7637 2 жыл бұрын
Take them, Carmelo and Kyrie off please. They had 76, that would make 72.. add Klay and Dwight for 74 and since they keeping a injury ridden Bill Walton on there, add Bernard King please...
@reodagreo7637
@reodagreo7637 2 жыл бұрын
@Clay McCain ion know bro... I can't see him being more dominate than Alex English, Adrian Dantley or Bernard... again with the injury ridden Bill Walton logic, how T Mac not there? I think he was more dominate than Carmelo ever was. I just never seen Carmelo as a factor, just a good player on a OK to terrible team. Did Chris Webber make it? At least he led contenders..
@lyhthegreat
@lyhthegreat 2 жыл бұрын
@@reodagreo7637 klay's good, but not top 75 good, maybe top 90+
@reodagreo7637
@reodagreo7637 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyhthegreat Name a better 3 and D shooting guard ever... from Sam Jones and Jerry West to now.. If James Worthy on there, Klay should be
@KJ-yn8pr
@KJ-yn8pr 2 жыл бұрын
I think Dame is only on this list because the media and the NBA wants to recognize he's already an all time great so that he can leave Portland. He needs to get some rings behind his name then he will be certified
@remnant8898
@remnant8898 2 жыл бұрын
SAS is a clown. Dwight Howard in Orlando was an absolute monster, and was easily the best big man in the game and received serious consideration as being the best player in the game.
@NextLevelAutoDetail
@NextLevelAutoDetail 2 жыл бұрын
And the moment he left Orlando his career fell off a cliff. He was on 7 different teams in 7 years. His career is actually disappointing compared to the super star he was in Orlando. The fact that he was so special and his biggest accomplishments are 3 DPOY and 8 all star teams is actually disappointing. He was that gifted. He had the potential to be one of the best big men to ever play and even Shaq was intimidated by him taking his throne. He never developed a polished post up game. Never developed a go to post scoring move. As his athletic abilities started to decline that was it. He was so special of a talent his career is disappointing 100%. Anybody that has a bigger problem with Dwight not making this list over klay has problems.
@remnant8898
@remnant8898 2 жыл бұрын
@@NextLevelAutoDetail actually, it didn't. He was an all-star his only year with the Lakers and an all-star with Houston while making All NBA those first two years he left Orlando. Injuries curtailed his career. And regardless of what transpired, his resume, especially at his peak was better than many of the careers of those on the list. That includes AD, Dame, Rodman, Westbrick, Bill Walton, etc. 8x All NBA, and 5x All Defense, leading your team to the Finals as the only star, are not just hall of fame accolades, those are all time great achievements.
@PQV-8898
@PQV-8898 2 жыл бұрын
Best player in the game? Hold on man and put down the pipe. As great as he is, he wouldn't make top 20 centers of all time. Top 75 players however there's a case for Howard.
@remnant8898
@remnant8898 2 жыл бұрын
@@PQV-8898 At his peak, he was definitely the best center playing, and he was being discussed as the Best player in the game when he was playing, not all time. That was a legit argument. This is the same dude who was top 5 in MVP voting for 5 straight years. He should've beaten D. Rose if we are being honest. He's not in the top 20 centers of all time? Bruh, you sure about that? He's top 12.
@jamontelee256
@jamontelee256 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@rahsheedashley4736
@rahsheedashley4736 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight Howard is one of the most under-appreciated players, it's like people forget his first 8 or so seasons even happened. Dwight peak was higher than Melo, AD and Dame. They did him dirty
@kreativkeem6864
@kreativkeem6864 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@uncledrew7633
@uncledrew7633 2 жыл бұрын
Yup I’ve been defending his peak for years!
@EJ-gx9hl
@EJ-gx9hl 2 жыл бұрын
I’d leave melo in the 70s but I wouldn’t have had AD or dame
@scapegoat413
@scapegoat413 2 жыл бұрын
Anthony Davis has accomplished 25% of what Dwight Howard accomplished
@d.lightfultv2231
@d.lightfultv2231 2 жыл бұрын
Lies.... all lies
@Xisking253
@Xisking253 2 жыл бұрын
I like how Perkins actually said who he'd take off most guys say someone got snubbed and are scared to take anyone off but I agree 1000% Dwight is punished for the small market and the years after Orlando. They forget about those 40 and 20 games he had.
@chriskay1449
@chriskay1449 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of hard to say he is being punished for the small market when Giannis, who is the face of the small market at this point, is on the list.
@jpmercado8146
@jpmercado8146 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriskay1449 different time
@chriskay1449
@chriskay1449 2 жыл бұрын
@@jpmercado8146 Not really. It wasn't that many years ago. Also the vote takes place NOW. They aren't going to cherry pick players to hold market size against. If market size is an issue, it is an issue for all players who played for one.
@jpmercado8146
@jpmercado8146 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriskay1449 lol not that many years ago? When was 04? When 2009? How many years? Do you think Dwight got as much coverage in orlando as greek freak does now? Yeah we are talking about now but dont discount the impact of social media and coverage now vs when dwight was at his best
@withallduerespect5073
@withallduerespect5073 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriskay1449 social media from 2004-2012 is nowhere near what it is today therefore team markets aren’t the same. And i like how you said it wasn’t that many years ago when clearly it’s over a decade
@josephhect5339
@josephhect5339 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it would make complete sense to have left off guys like AD or Dame who are still in their prime and added Dwight instead. They could have definitely made the 100 Anniversary team. The team that I expect Kyrie and Klay to make
@rowyourboat4331
@rowyourboat4331 2 жыл бұрын
why is reggie miller on the list......
@just.do.something
@just.do.something 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great point! If a player is still in their early 30's, they don't need to be on the list, necessarily. Maybe this why AD and Howard got into a scuffle the other day, haha.
@just.do.something
@just.do.something 2 жыл бұрын
@@rowyourboat4331 U serious about Reggie?
@rowyourboat4331
@rowyourboat4331 2 жыл бұрын
@@just.do.something reggie miller should be taken off the list he is not a better player than tony parker, dwight howard or kaly thompson. His resume has been surpassed at this point
@just.do.something
@just.do.something 2 жыл бұрын
@@rowyourboat4331 Noooooooo way!!! I'm just curious, were you old enough to really watch Reggie play?
@Aboukay80
@Aboukay80 2 жыл бұрын
The issue with the top 75 list is that the original 50 couldn't be removed.. so this made selecting the rest of the 25 players a much tougher decision.. Klay should have been on this list instead of Damian Lillard.. Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol also deserve to be on that list instead of Anthony Davis in my opinion
@lucianotecuanapa9853
@lucianotecuanapa9853 Жыл бұрын
I agree Gasol Tony Parker should have made it they got rings to back them up
@Joes35
@Joes35 Жыл бұрын
Why klay? Because he’s the 3rd best player on a multiple champion? He’s been 3rd team all nba maybe once. Even Reggie miller made it 2-3 times
@Aboukay80
@Aboukay80 Жыл бұрын
@Joe S winning rings while still being a very productive and valuable member of that team says a lot. Moreover when you're considered as the second best shooter in NBA history that says a lot as well.. Maybe recently Klay hasn't been as good ever since he missed those few seasons with horrible injuries.. but I would still consider his overall career being better than that of Damian Lillard.. I didn't mention anything regarding Reggie Miller because I do believe he deserves to be on that top 75.. he carried the Pacers to the NBA finals in the year 2000 and could have won an NBA championship had he not been during the Jordan era or that year he faced Kobe and Shaq in 2000
@donniehugan6822
@donniehugan6822 Жыл бұрын
Damien Lillard and Klay
@Aboukay80
@Aboukay80 Жыл бұрын
@Quick To Reason if Klay was on another team other than GSW don't you think he could have been a leader as well? Klay is not vocal but he definitely makes his presence felt on any team he's with.. Also I never compared Dwight and Klay.. I just said they both deserve to be on the top 75 last.. Dwight at his apex was a beast! So dominant and couldn't be stopped
@dako91196
@dako91196 2 жыл бұрын
I think he’s gotta be. Everything Perk said, plus he was the last true center to lead a team to the NBA finals. Centers just aren’t built like that anymore
@yvans.
@yvans. 2 жыл бұрын
Well the NBA removing physicality didn’t help…
@tuneunleashed
@tuneunleashed 2 жыл бұрын
Giannis is the last centre that won the NBA finals. He was playing the 5 the whole entire playoff run
@daddydeadpool9871
@daddydeadpool9871 2 жыл бұрын
Jokic
@josmyl
@josmyl 2 жыл бұрын
What perk do? 🤣
@HintedImage
@HintedImage 2 жыл бұрын
@@tuneunleashed They played him at 5 for mismatches, but he's listed on the roster as a 4.
@estherfamurewa4436
@estherfamurewa4436 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Dame on the list over Dwight? I love Dame but he hasn’t accomplished really anything so far in the nba compared to dwight
@pxu156
@pxu156 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@SamuelJ888
@SamuelJ888 2 жыл бұрын
Damian still has several great years ahead of him. Honestly I would rather have Dwight over Melo than Dwight over Dame
@jrsmithfanpage7558
@jrsmithfanpage7558 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelJ888 u don’t know bball
@michelangelooliver2590
@michelangelooliver2590 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@onaebodaghe
@onaebodaghe 2 жыл бұрын
People just forget he was a top 5 player in his prime plus dude just won a title🤦🏾‍♂️
@chase7662
@chase7662 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton had a prime that lasted like 3 years. Dwight’s body of work is better than bills
@ayeyobossman6151
@ayeyobossman6151 2 жыл бұрын
I'll say it like Shaq did: "That man got 6000 points."
@deppresedonion6320
@deppresedonion6320 2 жыл бұрын
There a are plenty people on that list that should be taken off the list for Dwight Howard but Bill Walton isnt one of them .A qustion if u could only have 1 of 2 between Dwight Howard or Anthony Davis on the list who would u have ?????? Maybe when his career is all said and done it will be AD but right now id have DW .
@Gnofg
@Gnofg 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see Walton play?
@Amick44
@Amick44 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen A is totally right. Walton was that good and special and dominant. That said, longevity matters too. In most cases.
@youngblood4127
@youngblood4127 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gnofg Right. It doesn't matter how long his prime was. They clearly don't how great Walton and how it was enough to warrant top 75. People gotta stop bringing up Penny, Hill, Derrick Rose, etc. Had those 3 and other injury prone players won, they would without question be in the top 75 but they didn't unfortunately. And by win I mean in a dominant MVP, Finals MVP within a span of 2 year fashion.
@jarretheller2244
@jarretheller2244 2 жыл бұрын
The very young might not realize this but once upon a time for a few years in sports radio there was a legitimate debate that surrounded whom would you rather building your NBA team around right now; Dwight or LeBron. Dwight was THAT good.
@tonehealth6993
@tonehealth6993 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight carried a team to the finals. He should 1000% be in the top 75.
@lloydbonafide3398
@lloydbonafide3398 2 жыл бұрын
Facts but remember that was the year kg got injured and was out the whole season . It would've been boston vs lakers for 3 years if that didnt happen
@ME-tn6cf
@ME-tn6cf 2 жыл бұрын
And lost
@paulmann5328
@paulmann5328 2 жыл бұрын
So
@goose0078
@goose0078 2 жыл бұрын
Magic were a solid team with a good coach, I wouldn't exactly say carried.
@qdamusiq5006
@qdamusiq5006 2 жыл бұрын
@@goose0078 defensively he 100% carried them . SVG choked in the finals
@josueguillen4111
@josueguillen4111 2 жыл бұрын
I love Dame but no way he’s better than Howard all time. What has Dame done that Howard hasn’t? I can tell you what Howard has done. Won DPOY 3x and led his team to a finals past the Celtics and Cavaliers
@mmortal03
@mmortal03 2 жыл бұрын
You have to give Dame credit for being 10th all-time in made threes, and he's actually higher ranked than Dwight in career WS/48, but you have to consider that Dame hasn't hit his decline yet, which will bring that number down some, and he's still got a ways to go to catch Dwight in accumulated stats.
@MoSuli96
@MoSuli96 2 жыл бұрын
@@mmortal03 your argument is Dame being 10th all time in 3s?? 😂😂 he came in the league when teams starter shooting more 3s than ever of course he’ll get there as a superstar shooting G. But his individual stats don’t even hold a candle to Dwight’s. How does a 1X All NBA first team player get in over a 5X 1St team player. That’s just the first question.
@mmortal03
@mmortal03 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoSuli96 No, re-read what I said. I'm putting Dwight above Dame, because Dame hasn't hit his decline yet, and still has a ways to go to catch Dwight in accumulated stats.
@Amick44
@Amick44 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoSuli96 there are a lot of great guards. There have been few good centers the past 15 yrs or so. It has become a weak, near obsolete position.
@TimelineBeats
@TimelineBeats 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I miss Max, I think Perk is a great fit for this show when you consider his personality and insightful takes (not saying he better than Max)
@lostdr34ms63
@lostdr34ms63 2 жыл бұрын
Pepehands Max
@gdbssa
@gdbssa 2 жыл бұрын
Im taking Igoudala
@jetgarcia8819
@jetgarcia8819 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that you consider Perk a great fit... already invalidates your CREDIBILITY bruh. 😂
@llcoolt75c
@llcoolt75c 2 жыл бұрын
Just did say max better 😂 u was going around it
@TimelineBeats
@TimelineBeats 2 жыл бұрын
@@jetgarcia8819 he works well with SAS and you're watching it 😭😭
@saugatbhandari1496
@saugatbhandari1496 2 жыл бұрын
perk got me when he said "that's how they dribble back then..."😂🤣
@dedricklane4899
@dedricklane4899 2 жыл бұрын
Notice how Stephen A never addressed why Dwight was undeserving he just talked around it. I believe that most of the voters that left Dwight off the list knew that he’s a top 45 to at least 50 lock and just left him off because they don’t like him. Klay should be there too but he’s not better than Dwight even with those rings
@yungblackcat
@yungblackcat 2 жыл бұрын
😂you trippn
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 2 жыл бұрын
@@yungblackcat nowhere in this universe is Klay Thompson at his best, is better than peak Dwight Howard. It's not even close and you have to be on meth to believe that.
@christien6230
@christien6230 2 жыл бұрын
Klay is not top 75
@kevinbunn7915
@kevinbunn7915 2 жыл бұрын
I think Pau should've made it too. Not yet for Klay. Same for AD. Not saying you are, but anyone who's a Laker fan would know that Pau should be above AD, at least at THIS point in time.
@kevinbunn7915
@kevinbunn7915 2 жыл бұрын
@@atlien1988 they're so different its almost like a pitcher and a hitter. They can both be great but in different ways.
@mattwalker5985
@mattwalker5985 2 жыл бұрын
“No disrespect to Kember”
@LilJJ010
@LilJJ010 2 жыл бұрын
Kember lmao
@darkcarnival6656
@darkcarnival6656 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton was one of the best players in the nba for a short amount of time(Maybe the best) Injuries derailed him, but Dwight definitely should've got on the 75 list
@ibushi5467
@ibushi5467 Жыл бұрын
Walton gave Portland a chip and when we think he's done, he just won the 6MOY and a chip with the Celtics.
@conatus4377
@conatus4377 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao! Perk funny af at the end talking about how players used to dribble back in the days
@reodagreo7637
@reodagreo7637 2 жыл бұрын
But they had to, anytime your hand deviated from the absolute top of the ball, it was a carry. Oscar was revolutionary with his use of the in and out dribble during this time. Later Earl Monroe, Pistol Pete and the ABA laxed these rules cause the NBA seen how the fans reacted to that 'hot dog' style of play (hint, it led to more money). Perk should've called out AD, Carmelo, Kyrie or Dame to replace with Dwight tho. Or called out his injury history and argued for Grant Hill, T Mac or Bernard King...
@KCFree3
@KCFree3 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight Howard is was All-NBA 8 TIMES. I wouldn’t take off Bill Walton, but can somebody please tell me what Damian Lillard has done to impact the game more than Dwight? I love Dame, but him being on this list reeks of recency bias.
@Shehzadinthehouse
@Shehzadinthehouse 2 жыл бұрын
Can't see how AD is here over Dwight, can't deny AD has the talent to surpass Dwight but he hasn't accomplished as much yet in comparison to Dwights prime.
@JohnnyGalan12
@JohnnyGalan12 2 жыл бұрын
exactly man no ones talking about this AD hasn't really done anything note worthy not enough to be on the list over dwight
@persistentlypathetic6820
@persistentlypathetic6820 2 жыл бұрын
AD deserves to be on there more than Dame at least he has a ring
@JohnnyGalan12
@JohnnyGalan12 2 жыл бұрын
@@persistentlypathetic6820 Manu and Tp9 deserve to be on there more then dame and AD
@phenomfacemob1011
@phenomfacemob1011 2 жыл бұрын
So are they going off SKILLS or what they done?
@JohnnyGalan12
@JohnnyGalan12 2 жыл бұрын
@@phenomfacemob1011 it should be over accomplishments and longevity Manu and TP have 4 rings and multiple all star and all nba teams 6th man list goes on.. AD and dame will never reach that level
@paintballJohn2
@paintballJohn2 2 жыл бұрын
Dude was the best center in the league for like 5 years. Defensive monster. This is crazy.
@kevinbunn7915
@kevinbunn7915 2 жыл бұрын
I think Dwight and Pau should've both made it. People forget how dominant Dwight was, and forgot how good Pau Gasol was. If the Lakers are retiring #16, which they are, he should be in the top 75.
@bradleycloetingh9586
@bradleycloetingh9586 2 жыл бұрын
Pau no, Tracy McGrady yes.
@ti8864
@ti8864 2 жыл бұрын
Pau never, T-Mac yes
@mrbodycatcher6428
@mrbodycatcher6428 Жыл бұрын
@@ti8864Mcgrady was overrated 🤷‍♂️
@KiarRushing
@KiarRushing Жыл бұрын
Mcgrady doesn’t deserve. Besides a scoring title what has he really done? Nothing . Stop acting like he did something
@dpok5302
@dpok5302 Жыл бұрын
@@bradleycloetingh9586that man never won a. Playoff series. Man
@qdamusiq5006
@qdamusiq5006 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight was the anchor for a rotation that included Turkoglu Jameer Nelson and JJ reddick and they still made the finals . That should tell you how special he was as a rim protector .
@MrAngel87
@MrAngel87 2 жыл бұрын
True but remember that the Eastern conference was a joke that year. That was the year when Delonte WEST was on the cavs and... Nevermind!
@TheEliWay
@TheEliWay 2 жыл бұрын
And don't forget about Rashard Lewis, Courtney Lee & Mickael Pietrus
@Uzimacky
@Uzimacky 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEliWay Pietrus couldn't guard my mans Kobe hehe
@TheEliWay
@TheEliWay 2 жыл бұрын
@@Uzimacky current
@qdamusiq5006
@qdamusiq5006 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEliWay lee and pietrus was decent everybody else was below average
@jonathanjacobs1819
@jonathanjacobs1819 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no way I could leave Vince Carter or Tracy Mcgrady off Top 75
@TRINI818
@TRINI818 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. If Melo and dame how can you leave VC & T- mac. If Dominique Wilkins made the list cause of his dunks then VC was snubbed
@kjo2130
@kjo2130 2 жыл бұрын
The great loser Tracy shouldn’t even be top 100
@georgestamatakis697
@georgestamatakis697 2 жыл бұрын
Wilkins was better than both of them.
@KSU-ce2uc
@KSU-ce2uc 2 жыл бұрын
Multiple players were better than Carter. Grant Hill, Tracy McGrady, Bernard King, Chris Mullin, Mitch Richmond... were more skilled than Carter & had better stats. Carter was the greatest dunker maybe if all time, but many were more skilled than him.
@bigbud4323
@bigbud4323 2 жыл бұрын
I would leave McGrady because he didn’t have a great longevity and never made it past the first round as a number 1 option. And I also would leave our Vince
@ozonespec
@ozonespec 2 жыл бұрын
To leave Dwight Howard off the top 75 players all time list is insane!!!
@slapshot6ful
@slapshot6ful 2 жыл бұрын
Perk is correct in: Dwight is top 75. He's wrong about taking off Bill Walton. He's a real one. His prime was more prime.
@recinese
@recinese 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see him play?
@slapshot6ful
@slapshot6ful 2 жыл бұрын
@@recinese Not live, but quite a bit of film. He was great. He stays on my list...but to each their own.
@karanpunj6888
@karanpunj6888 2 жыл бұрын
Ain’t no way same one their over Dwight, klay, Vince carter
@Johenz
@Johenz 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton is super overrated. He’s best known for his defense and Dwight is a better defender than bill
@HighRollerSkates
@HighRollerSkates Жыл бұрын
@@karanpunj6888 No way Klay
@zay7439
@zay7439 2 жыл бұрын
the only thing dwight hasn’t accomplished in his career is ROY and MVP, yet stephen a still doesn’t think he deserved to be here. you’re telling me that dwight didn’t have a greater career than some of the bigs on the list from the 50s and 60s ?? sick of the media bias
@pemp9606
@pemp9606 2 жыл бұрын
He’s had a better career than AD and Dame imo
@TheEliWay
@TheEliWay 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the 2010-11 SZN man he was BALLIN and a 2nd place in the MVP behind D🌹LIKE WOW❗
@danishasolomon6225
@danishasolomon6225 2 жыл бұрын
@@pemp9606 I totally agree dame and AD shouldn’t have been that list
@samuelwilson7598
@samuelwilson7598 2 жыл бұрын
He won rookie of the yr
@ilovethots100
@ilovethots100 2 жыл бұрын
@@danishasolomon6225 ad should be but not Dame Ad is one of the best pf of all time
@ezraprzytyk
@ezraprzytyk 2 жыл бұрын
Molly "I like that word disturbing" Everyone: ok?.... Thanks for your valuable contribution Molly ...
@TIJULESCLAUDY
@TIJULESCLAUDY 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@tyler6god
@tyler6god 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! Can't stand her
@tyler6god
@tyler6god 2 жыл бұрын
@OMWTA: Black Pill Analysis & Advocation not nearly enough
@Soulzodiac
@Soulzodiac 2 жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂️
@kyngjai
@kyngjai 2 жыл бұрын
Molly loves perk lol
@Von.NorthEnd
@Von.NorthEnd Жыл бұрын
1:23 “Who?” 😂😂😂 SAS funny asf sometimes
@fchillaxing
@fchillaxing 2 жыл бұрын
i love how they leave molly out till the last minute so she can say we have to take a break
@seansimpson7879
@seansimpson7879 2 жыл бұрын
How is Damian lilard on this list over Dwight Howard, at this point Howard has easily accomplished more
@kb4231
@kb4231 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the one, and i love Dame.
@billyracercar
@billyracercar 2 жыл бұрын
Get alone gang You can't hurt any reporters feelings during your career or else they won't vote for you
@SonYaban
@SonYaban 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@freddyb3380
@freddyb3380 2 жыл бұрын
Fax
@ljpal18
@ljpal18 2 жыл бұрын
Dame in, Anthony Davis out.
@DomGabana103
@DomGabana103 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton had 2 good seasons and he was injured the rest of his career I don’t know how he made it 😂😂
@kengy1991
@kengy1991 2 жыл бұрын
I think he made it based a lot off of his personality and also his college career. I know him more for his time at UCLA than in the NBA and I’m 29 years old.
@calumfitzpatrick4500
@calumfitzpatrick4500 2 жыл бұрын
Because he has mvp and is two time champion
@derrickbowers5643
@derrickbowers5643 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Bill Walton gets credit on what he could've been, not what he actually was
@LocalNomadd
@LocalNomadd 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton has 6k points and 4k rebounds for his career, he never even had a season where he averaged 20 points a game. On the basketball reference website there’s a tab that list a players odds to make the hall of fame and Walton has a whopping 2% out of 100 😂
@citi360
@citi360 2 жыл бұрын
Because he's white... Duhhh!
@VINNYBLVNCO
@VINNYBLVNCO 2 жыл бұрын
kendrick killed me with his hand movements about dribbling 😩😂😂😂😂
@seanybreeze315
@seanybreeze315 2 жыл бұрын
This the first time I whole heartedly agree with Perk 💪🏾. Well everything he said to make his case for Dwight. But not the Bill Walton part. They can take off dame Lillard
@AlSemz
@AlSemz 2 жыл бұрын
Yea Orlando Dwight was an all time player for sure. That team ran through him and he put up numbers and won games. They made a run with him leading the way.
@aquasnazzy1680
@aquasnazzy1680 2 жыл бұрын
I love how much love klay gets from smith
@Bama20512
@Bama20512 2 жыл бұрын
Klay not top 75 due to him missing the last two years
@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony
@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bama20512 due to him never being a top 10, never being a superstar, his resume is no where near all time great
@karielakeh7850
@karielakeh7850 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly his respect for klay and the splash brothers is what makes me like him the most
@Bama20512
@Bama20512 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carmelo-dame.time-Anthony You do have a point though. I didn’t realize it til someone pointed it out on Twitter. I automatically noticed Dwight not being on it. Hate to say it but I don’t know how Reggie Miller made it 🤷🏾‍♂️
@RetroMamba
@RetroMamba 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bama20512 bro Klay is arguable top 3 shooter of all time. Multiple all star, has 3 rings. Definitely deserves to be on the list
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. 8 күн бұрын
Bill Walton's claims to NBA fame: Led Portland to a title in 1977. Was NBA MVP., led the league in blocks & rebs once. Scored 6200 pts in his NBA career, due to injuries Dwight Howard's claim to NBA fame: 3X Defensive Player of the Year. Led the league in rebounding 5X. 5X All-NBA 1st Team D-12 scored almost 20k points. I'd take D-12 (And I sold him Magnums once, when he was in Orlando. Cool guy!)
@dextec49
@dextec49 2 жыл бұрын
Body of work is the compass on which one are great impact players. Everyone list will be different, but the majority of them lists will have the same players.
@joyboy1720
@joyboy1720 2 жыл бұрын
How is Dame on there and Dwight isn't? That makes no sense. What has Dame done that Dwight hasn't
@leroyrodgers6089
@leroyrodgers6089 2 жыл бұрын
I have been saying the same. Dame hasn't even sniffed a finals....
@chasestacks7792
@chasestacks7792 2 жыл бұрын
AD as well
@docholiday1463
@docholiday1463 2 жыл бұрын
Dame knocked Dwight out the playoffs wit a clutch 3
@EJ-gx9hl
@EJ-gx9hl 2 жыл бұрын
@@docholiday1463 what team was Dwight on when it happened and was he prime Dwight or journey man Dwight?
@jonathanwatson1908
@jonathanwatson1908 2 жыл бұрын
@@EJ-gx9hl Houston Rockets and I think he was still a dominant force. Not like Orlando but at least he was a dominant big man
@nathanielrose7914
@nathanielrose7914 2 жыл бұрын
Dame don’t even have a finals appearance and he is there. Madness
@ijayrizzy3116
@ijayrizzy3116 2 жыл бұрын
There is no way I’m leaving Vince Carter off the top 75 list‼️‼️‼️
@mav817man
@mav817man 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight lead his team to a Finals. Klay always been a 2nd option at best
@mikekillagreen9432
@mikekillagreen9432 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@liamdunphy7496
@liamdunphy7496 2 жыл бұрын
3rd because dray is more important
@elijaharvinger8711
@elijaharvinger8711 2 жыл бұрын
We're not talking about who leads a team. That has nothing to do with skill set or where your place on the list should be. There was alot of great players on REALLY bad teams. If y'all old enough to know. If not look up Mitch Richmond, Dominique Wilkins, Drazen Pertrovic. Sometimes it's only so much a person can do alone. Barkley only went to finals when he had a TEAM that was solid. Hakeem went when his TEAM was solid. Ewing went when his TEAM was solid. Leading a team by yourself is great but that shouldn't be the STANDARD of greatness.
@dominiquerobinson8888
@dominiquerobinson8888 2 жыл бұрын
@@elijaharvinger8711 Leading a team success is a huge factor. Cause there's a whole different level of pressure when you're the main guy coaches game plan against rather than the second or 3rd guy. The point is Klay has yet to prove he could be the top guy of a playoff level team or have the level of success of a Dominique Wilkins, Barkley, Ewing, or Dwight. Plus your argument doesn't even work cause Dwight has more individual accolades by far than Klay along with being a more impactful player longer.
@reodagreo7637
@reodagreo7637 2 жыл бұрын
@@UndercoverSpill y'all say this but what shot did Ray Allen or Reggie Miller ever create? They weren't crossing people up to create space.. they ran miles and miles off hella screens the way Klay would do if he led a squad. But Reggie had perineal contenders for like a 10 year stretch (with guys like Mark Jackson, Rik Smits and a ancient Chris Mullin, then later with a young Jermaine O'Neal, Ron Artest, etc). The difference between the three is the defence.
@CowenGittens
@CowenGittens 2 жыл бұрын
There's no reasonable reason to have Damian Lilliard on that list.
@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV.
@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. 2 жыл бұрын
True i would put Alex English or Dantley over him at this point
@johngregg2659
@johngregg2659 2 жыл бұрын
@@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. nice! I agree. Alex English and Walt Bellamy are actually the biggest snubs in my opinion. Walt Bellamy has 21000 pts and almost 15000 rebounds for his career. I am very happy to see that they retroactively put Dominique and Bob Mcadoo on this list. But they should have added English and Bellamy over Anthony Davis and Damiam Lillard.
@davidmckesey7119
@davidmckesey7119 2 жыл бұрын
Klay over Lillard
@dedricklane4899
@dedricklane4899 2 жыл бұрын
I can name like ten guys over Dame and AD is top 100 it was too early for him.
@goodymob9638
@goodymob9638 2 жыл бұрын
@@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. say it again 💯
@derekjwilliams007
@derekjwilliams007 2 жыл бұрын
Howard was a beast in his prime!
@touher2795
@touher2795 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight in his prime would've smacked the sh*t out of 90 percent of the guys on that list. Tell me which of those guys would've stopped him? Not to mention the defensive manhandling he would've done to the other guy
@vbeard5887
@vbeard5887 2 жыл бұрын
90%? Stop it.
@Gnofg
@Gnofg 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight never developed his offense and that is why he struggled once his athleticism left him. Dunking off a lob is not offense. offense is a consistent hook, turnaround and a scoop. He is one player who should have gone to college to learn how to play.
@Double-V13
@Double-V13 2 жыл бұрын
“This is the most disturbing thing I’ve seen in the past six months” Literal Afghans falling off of plans trying to flee their country
@thereaper5560
@thereaper5560 2 жыл бұрын
I mean he might not have seen it 🤷
@Oren0614
@Oren0614 2 жыл бұрын
They only care about blm and nba.
@thereaper5560
@thereaper5560 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oren0614 yeah you right maybe they go stop them
@TheLOUIS97531
@TheLOUIS97531 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you take it so literal! It’s an obvious exaggeration to get his point across 🙄
@TheLOUIS97531
@TheLOUIS97531 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oren0614 it’s a sports show that dabbles a Lil in current news. Also when black people make up & are dominating for the most part in NBA& NFL, BLM should be spoken about here and there.
@kcalnek
@kcalnek 2 жыл бұрын
i'd put Dwight over Dame or AD.
@Theredcardinal314
@Theredcardinal314 2 жыл бұрын
Facts only
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 жыл бұрын
KingCantona14 Howard couldn't score AD all day over howard
@kcalnek
@kcalnek 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiansoldier77 casual lol
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 жыл бұрын
@@kcalnek no you're the casual
@kcalnek
@kcalnek 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiansoldier77 yeah silly me for remembering that Dwight Howard had a career on the magic. Check the resume. Check the stats. Sit down little boy
@mjor6406
@mjor6406 Жыл бұрын
Imagine this line up. D Howard, T McGrady, Vince Carter, Tony Parker Pau Gasol.
@devincognito8932
@devincognito8932 2 жыл бұрын
1:24 That face gets me every time
@Marding
@Marding 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe anyone has the pov that Dwight doesn’t belong but since it’s Stephen A it makes sense
@josephhect5339
@josephhect5339 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it would make complete sense to have left off guys like AD or Dame who are still in their prime and added Dwight instead. They could have definitely made the 100 Anniversary team. The team that I expect Kyrie and Klay to make
@Marding
@Marding 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephhect5339 seeing as kyries career is potentially over does he even make 100? Ja and lamelo look like they’re about to have a nice next 10-15 years and who knows who else emerges. Dame being on the current list is insane though
@josephhect5339
@josephhect5339 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marding I mean, Kyrie himself said not to listen to the media saying that his career is over.
@Marding
@Marding 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephhect5339 he may not have a choice in the matter. Who is going to give him a large long term contract next year?
@estherfamurewa4436
@estherfamurewa4436 2 жыл бұрын
Yes ofc he is. This man was a 3x DPOy of the year and at one point was in the convo for the best player in the nba with lebron, Kobe, dwade, etc.
@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx
@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx 2 жыл бұрын
Top 5 players from 08-12: LeBron Kobe Wade Howard Duncan
@tjrose9830
@tjrose9830 2 жыл бұрын
DRose?
@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx
@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx 2 жыл бұрын
@@tjrose9830 it was tough for me to pick between Duncan, Durant or Rose for that number 5 spot but i ultimately chose Duncan because he was the proven guy with a lot of experience.
@tjrose9830
@tjrose9830 2 жыл бұрын
@@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx I would agree with you but top player is based on individual impact. Duncan at that time was more so team impact instead of individual impact. Duncan helped Parker and Ginobi to be what they was while DRose was the most talented PG in nba history during that time period.
@goose0078
@goose0078 2 жыл бұрын
@@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx Imho, it's neither Dwight nor Rose... Its Dirk.
@giovanni2980
@giovanni2980 2 жыл бұрын
Perks face when Steven says he gonna forgive him 😂
@vbeard5887
@vbeard5887 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton was a part of the original top 50 in 1996. That list didn't change. It was basically here's the next 25.
@gedrictudio
@gedrictudio 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight deserves to be Top 75 All Time. But saying that Bill Walton should be dropped puzzled me. Like, bro, Lillard's right there. Drop Dame.
@joshsigala53
@joshsigala53 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, he picked the one guy that actually might be better than Dwight 😂
@jeremiahsmith7706
@jeremiahsmith7706 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton averaged 18 and 12 during his peak. That's vucevic type numbers lol
@jb8641
@jb8641 2 жыл бұрын
He won't say Dame cause he's still playing. He'd be called out and/or be put on a diss track. But yeah, I'd remove Dame and Melo out of there to insert Dwight and Klay.
@gametimex3969
@gametimex3969 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahsmith7706 he beat the 76ers in the finals bruh And won a ring on the Celtics he staying on the list 😤
@jeremiahsmith7706
@jeremiahsmith7706 2 жыл бұрын
@@gametimex3969 18 and 12 not enough. Man's only a 2x all-star
@Hasan9t
@Hasan9t 2 жыл бұрын
Klay Thompson??? He didn’t reach anything close to D12’s prime. Are we forgetting 40 and 14 to eliminate Lebron in 2009? Gimme a break.
@JacionBryant
@JacionBryant Жыл бұрын
A certified hood classicss
@urbangorilla33
@urbangorilla33 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton was a great player but he was only healthy 2-3 seasons. I would have put Bernard King over Melo, speaking as a Knick fan.
@goodymob9638
@goodymob9638 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, BK doesn't get any respect 💯
@chrisballard5743
@chrisballard5743 2 жыл бұрын
Bernard King definitely doesn't get any respect. He was one of the first players I saw who you could truly say was unstoppable. Growing up as a Sixers fan in the 80s,I personally witnessed him going off on us regularly for 40-50 points. And he made it look EASY. He was the definition of a scorer,he had a variety of moves,and could hurt you from anywhere on the floor.
@urbangorilla33
@urbangorilla33 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisballard5743 Early 80s Sixers teams were great to watch, Dr. J was an icon.
@jtodar27
@jtodar27 2 жыл бұрын
Walton should be removed
@citizenghosttown
@citizenghosttown 2 жыл бұрын
Truth!
@DagestanderGustaffuson
@DagestanderGustaffuson 2 жыл бұрын
For Stephen A to say Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter are not in his top 75 is absolutely ridiculous. Those guys went toe to toe with Kobe and got the best of him on some nights. A.I is essentially in the same category as those guys except with 1 MVP. And to mention DWade is on his top 75 is like he barely made is just ridiculous, dude is a top 15 player all time.
@Ballout60s
@Ballout60s 2 жыл бұрын
Flash is a no brainer, he in that same room with Bird and Hakeem
@the757general2
@the757general2 Жыл бұрын
D-Wade is great and all, but he's not top 15. It's arguable if he's even top 20. Way too many great players that have played in the league.
@DagestanderGustaffuson
@DagestanderGustaffuson Жыл бұрын
@@the757general2 Steph not better than Wade at his best, Steph may be greater, not better
@ClareAmel
@ClareAmel Жыл бұрын
Wade ain’t even top 20 dafuq
@IkeOkpobiri
@IkeOkpobiri 2 жыл бұрын
"That is the most disturbing thing I've seen" 😂😂🤣🤣😅😅
@Jmane1040
@Jmane1040 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen A " What was you doin at them colleges boy?
@DZ-lx4iu
@DZ-lx4iu 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no splash bros without klay. Greatest shooting backcourt enough said
@ThomasCrovvn
@ThomasCrovvn 2 жыл бұрын
Still doesn’t make him top 75
@deon3133
@deon3133 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao that don't make u a top 75 player.
@TheKos2Kos
@TheKos2Kos 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry SAS but Klay should probably be top 75 but dwight is a better player than klay. Klay is one of the best 3 pt shooters of all time and is a very good defender. But he cant carry a franchise like dwight did multiple times
@TheKos2Kos
@TheKos2Kos 2 жыл бұрын
Also, as a miami native and heat ultimate heat fan (tim Hardaway senior used to mow my great granddad's yard in chicago), I'm embarrassed that DZ a fellow heat fan made the original post
@mybestnugget7514
@mybestnugget7514 2 жыл бұрын
Yea but Tracy McGrady is arguably a top 2 scorer ever
@shanellmoonesinghe896
@shanellmoonesinghe896 2 жыл бұрын
Walton literally led the blazers to their first chip and won finals mvp then won mvp a year after, he should definitely be on this list, Perkins should have said AD or Dame
@lloydbonafide3398
@lloydbonafide3398 2 жыл бұрын
Perkins was a Celtic he knows the work bill walton put in. He just didnt wanna name any current players to be taken out due to backlash.
@CalvinAP
@CalvinAP 2 жыл бұрын
I agree AD and Dame should not be on that list. TMac and Vince, are definitely ahead of them.
@antione
@antione 2 жыл бұрын
@@CalvinAP no they aren’t. T-Mac never won a playoff series and Vince Carter is the biggest waste of talent and underachiever in NBA history. AD and Dame have accomplished more than both of those men despite their popularity.
@ambition0516
@ambition0516 2 жыл бұрын
Yea AD for sure
@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV.
@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. 2 жыл бұрын
Plus walton was 6th man of the year with the celtics in 86....the best team in NBA history...
@alexanderhendricks9741
@alexanderhendricks9741 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Perk on this one
@breaking2heaven752
@breaking2heaven752 2 жыл бұрын
Molly looking like she in a robe at home getting clapped when them cameras go off 😂😂😂
@dannyboy9537
@dannyboy9537 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem was the fact that they had to leave the original 50 on it which left other better players off because there isn't any room
@dannyboy9537
@dannyboy9537 2 жыл бұрын
@@UndercoverSpill it's also hard to justify old players because there was actually a rule that forced players to dribble all stiff like they had been, not because they couldn't dribble more loosely.
@vbeard5887
@vbeard5887 2 жыл бұрын
The top 50 technically wasn't in tact. There was a big discussion about it on TNT because some on the original 50 didn't make it to the 75.
@hamzahmohammed5491
@hamzahmohammed5491 2 жыл бұрын
The way Stephen A says “ever” kills me 😂😂
@ghariiscool
@ghariiscool 2 жыл бұрын
EVAH
@Joseph-lz5er
@Joseph-lz5er 2 жыл бұрын
I also think you have to bring up intangibles like leadership and consistency. He's had issues with coaches and teammates, and his attitude wasn't always about winning. The dude was a physical beast, but it doesn't also help when you are known to be a jokester and not take the game seriously.
@lelle494
@lelle494 2 жыл бұрын
That’s stupid we not measuring character we measuring skill
@adamunruh8860
@adamunruh8860 Жыл бұрын
That dribble move was hilarious
@Errdayhighlights
@Errdayhighlights 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton single handedly won the Blazers a ring.. What Perk talkin bout
@jtodar27
@jtodar27 2 жыл бұрын
He had two to 3 good years. Two time all-star only. Ben Wallace better than walton
@fausty616
@fausty616 2 жыл бұрын
Walton deserves it, despite his limited peak due to injuries. He still took his team all the way, innovated a play style for his position, created BlazerMania, and then had a great third act with the Celtics. But Dame and AD don't have a case over Dwight.
@P1P31150
@P1P31150 2 жыл бұрын
This right here... Walton is FOR SURE worthy... AD has the same ring as Dwight, but dwight as all the other awards. AD's legady is nothing Dame has no ring, no scoring champion, no playoff success... man can shoot from the logo, but so what?
@BostonBori92
@BostonBori92 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Dame is on this list because hes responsible for some of the best playoff moments in NBA history lol you can tell the NBA story without Dwight Howard hes a big...You leaving out Dame hitting a shot in PGs eyeball when you tell your kids about what you saw in 20 years? I dont think so lol yall look too much at the numbers and the accolades when impact also matters Dwight was fun loving but he didnt stand out he was a star never a Superstar he wasnt even the biggest FL Athelete at that time
@jamespuso1627
@jamespuso1627 2 жыл бұрын
Walton and Dwight are kinda similar in my mind both having had relatively short peaks. But Bill Walton accomplished more at his peak. Honestly I don't know about AD vs Dwight though. AD is way better offensively than prime Dwight, he has a championship he won in his prime which counts for a lot but when he was THE GUY in New Orleans he didn't have the team success Dwight had I'll grant. Nobody thought the Orlando Magic were gonna make the finals in '09, everyone thought LeBron vs Kobe was a foregone conclusion but he beat him and it was Dwight vs. Kobe.
@slickeddy2000
@slickeddy2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@P1P31150 Dame has carried his team to the second rd at least and has dealt with rebuilds on the fly. Like LaMarcus Aldridge leaving and others leaving. So Dame has a way better case than Anthony Davis. Walton is a lock 🔐 through it down big man lol. Kay and Dwight should be on
@toughmunths
@toughmunths 2 жыл бұрын
AD of course has a case against Dwight, AD is the much better player and won Dwight ring for him
@BigstickNick
@BigstickNick 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck said, when Howard got in the league, he was 50% of his potential, but he never got better...
@fishshit
@fishshit 2 жыл бұрын
6:00 was puppet string using baphomet handsign
@devon8trillionaire
@devon8trillionaire 2 жыл бұрын
How you put Bill Walton on the list on of the most disturbing things I've seen in the 6 months 😂😂😂😂😂
@ursula3438
@ursula3438 2 жыл бұрын
He's got a FMVP, a MVP and a 6th man of the year. That's a decent resume. What have Melo or Dame won to be considered over champions like Tony Parker or Klay?
@tyronevaldez-kruger5313
@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 2 жыл бұрын
Perkins shouldn't have said that about Walton. I'm too young but how can you say "disturbing" if you're from a different era, not to mention not born yet. That's why I don't really like GOAT debates or lists like that.
@johngregg2659
@johngregg2659 2 жыл бұрын
He was ALREADY ON THE LIST in 1997. They don't take off players and replace them with different ones. They ADDED 25 NEW players to the ORIGINAL 50. THIS LIST WILL NEVER CHANGE. ONLY BE ADDED ON EVERY 25 years. Now do I believe Bill Walton is a top 75 player of all time? Maybe not. But thats not how this list works. You cant be TAKEN OFF when you've already been PUT on the list 25 years ago.
@tyronevaldez-kruger5313
@tyronevaldez-kruger5313 2 жыл бұрын
@@johngregg2659 Sure but Perk doesn't care and debates as if his life depended on it. Maybe there are little ppl in his beard telling him what to say
@jakobsteffensen8006
@jakobsteffensen8006 2 жыл бұрын
@@johngregg2659 But the NBA has removed players from the 25 anniversary team though
@93deiondavis
@93deiondavis 2 жыл бұрын
Prime Tracy McGrady ( 13 points in 33 seconds) would absolutely cook most players on that list, and yes Dwight Howard should have made the list...
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad he didn't cook enough to make it past the first round 😭
@hollywoodmoltisanti2509
@hollywoodmoltisanti2509 2 жыл бұрын
@@atlien1988 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣thats the tough reality
@aznnp77
@aznnp77 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight Howard was the reason why every team needed a big man. He would tower over people. He was so tall, but skinny at the same time and athletic. He got beaten up because people didn't want to give him easy baskets. The toughest player to guard in the NBA for a 3-4 year period.
@Gnofg
@Gnofg 2 жыл бұрын
Howard never developed an offensive game and that is why he struggles today. Dunking off a lob is not an offensive game. He had no consistent low post presence. He never developed a hook, turnaround jumper and a scoop. That is why he is not in the top 75.
@Amick44
@Amick44 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gnofg amen. Sort of an earlier D'andre Jordan.
@leonardoyi3183
@leonardoyi3183 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gnofg Your comment is wrong. Yes, Dwight might not have a very refined offensive game like a lot of those players chosen in the 75th anniversary team. But, there are a couple of players, with very limited scoring abilities on that team. There's jason kidd, who never had much of an scoring game. There's Russell westbrook, who has always depended a lot on his insane athleticism to score. Then there wes unseld, who most of the seasons he played scored less than 10 ppg. Let's not even talk about Dennis rodman, who averaged 7 ppg for his career. Now, there's a legitimate argument that howard is more deserving than AD, Dominique wilkins, Wes Unseld, Dennis Rodman, and some other players. At his peak, Howard was a legitimate franchise player, who could take his team to the finals as the best player on his team and in the discussion as most valuable player of the league. Probably 1/4 of that 75th anniversary team can not do that.
@leonardoyi3183
@leonardoyi3183 2 жыл бұрын
@@Amick44 d andre jordan was never in the discussion as the leagues best player. D andre jordan never got to the finals even with a stacked team. D andre jordan could not carry his team to the finals as the best player of his team. Howard carried his team offensively and defensively to the nba finals.
@Hasan9t
@Hasan9t 2 жыл бұрын
Skinny? He was 270 in his Orlando days
@sabbasarishvili6677
@sabbasarishvili6677 Жыл бұрын
Not seeing Tony Parker breaks my heart. Insanely underrated player.
@spencerdobkin9479
@spencerdobkin9479 Жыл бұрын
He is great
@imjustakid7952
@imjustakid7952 Жыл бұрын
The first father of LeSweep in the Finals was TP9
@markjones2518
@markjones2518 10 ай бұрын
And manu
@estherfamurewa4436
@estherfamurewa4436 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight, klay, tony parker, Tmac, etc were some of the biggest snubs.
@l.a.6337
@l.a.6337 2 жыл бұрын
Tmac never snif second round when he was in his prime, he aint top75
@ursula3438
@ursula3438 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Manu.
@ballerboy2381
@ballerboy2381 2 жыл бұрын
@@l.a.6337 tmac was neck and neck with kobe for a few a seasons there, as far as talent and athleticism. If it wasn't for injuries holding him back he'd be top 75 for sure and probably have a ring or 2
@Doknot-tb9ey
@Doknot-tb9ey 2 жыл бұрын
@@l.a.6337 Its not his fought.
@tyrellmiles1467
@tyrellmiles1467 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody’s gotta get left off. Ain’t no honorable mention
@Wolves2314
@Wolves2314 2 жыл бұрын
I just gained so much respect for SAS here defending Klay. Klay is always snubbed!!
@mrdy2624
@mrdy2624 2 жыл бұрын
Klay doesnt deserve it.
@leokizzo3515
@leokizzo3515 2 жыл бұрын
How does Klay get snubbed? His career averages aren’t that crazy good. 2 of the 3 rings he won were with an obvious championship team. He was 3rd fiddled to a team with KD and Curry both MVP players in their prime. Easily both top 5 in the league.
@Wolves2314
@Wolves2314 2 жыл бұрын
@@leokizzo3515 if you actually watch the video SAS explains why. but go ahead and copy paste espn headlines all over youtube
@tonygotbars8835
@tonygotbars8835 2 жыл бұрын
Klay is so overrated he’s not even a top 5 SG of all time. Kobe, AI, Jordan, Ray Allen, & Wade were all better.
@itachi-kun7736
@itachi-kun7736 2 жыл бұрын
Klay is great but not top 75 yet since all eyes are in Curry, I would have omit Carmelo and Dame in the list for Klay's spot
@joshthegodtv3430
@joshthegodtv3430 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao Stephen A said “ who” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I’m dead
@lntaylor69
@lntaylor69 Жыл бұрын
No way Damion Lilard or Anthony Davis should be on the list before Dwight Howard Howard NBA Resume is clearly more impressive than the two of them
@Osnii
@Osnii 2 жыл бұрын
Perk's face when stephen a talking about bill walton 😂😂
@reggiereg1309
@reggiereg1309 2 жыл бұрын
T Mac, Vince, Kyrie, D Howard?? Lol they should definitely be on there.
@cyberpsykoh6686
@cyberpsykoh6686 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie? No.
@jasonb97
@jasonb97 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyberpsykoh6686 Kyrie yes... Especially when they add Damian Lillard... Kyrie has been in 3 straight Finals, has been performing exceptionally on all levels and was part of the only ring in Cleveland Cavaliers history, hitting one of the clutchest shots of all time... LeBron wouldn't win that ring without Kyrie (and the opposite as well)... Kyrie is also better individually than Lillard, since he is more efficient, better ball handler (on par with Iverson on that part), better defender... Only thing that lacks Kyrie to be on that list is stability...
@cyberpsykoh6686
@cyberpsykoh6686 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonb97 I get that Kyrie is and will always be better than Dame. Dame doesn’t deserve to make it on this list too. Kyrie was actually a Damian Lillard type of player before Lebron’s return to Cleveland, putting up great numbers and achieving nothing. He hit a big time shot in the Finals and won a ring but that was it. What did Kyrie achieve after leaving LBJ’s shadows anyway? Nothing. He was still good but people expected more from him and yet, he failed to deliver. Then, Kyrie went crazy. But there’s no doubt that he’ll make it on NBA100. I’m not hating, just stating the obvious.
@jasonb97
@jasonb97 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyberpsykoh6686 I'm not here to judge what Kyrie should've or shouldn't have done with his career... But compared to Lillard, he is the least to say, a champion... And Lillard without a doubt has proven that he can't be a champion on his own (sad truth is, that only a handful of guards have done it as the first option on a championship team)... If Lillard had a player like LeBron, Giannis, Durant or Kawhi he would definitely be a champion like Kyrie... But even without the championship, Lillard only gains points with his leadership...
@cyberpsykoh6686
@cyberpsykoh6686 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonb97 Man, Lillard actually had a lot of chances to leave Portland and find a better team for his career but he chose not to. So it’s all his fault for not playing with a legit superstar. He’s like Charlotte Kemba Walker and Minnesota KLove, putting numbers with no value.
@michaelallen714
@michaelallen714 2 жыл бұрын
Perks face when Stephen A starts talking 😆 perk the first person to not let that yelling affect him haha
@user-hw7vx7yz2e
@user-hw7vx7yz2e 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell when some scenarios becomes an popularity contest.
@SamuelJ888
@SamuelJ888 2 жыл бұрын
I havent agreed with SAS much lately but man he was on point in this segment. From defending Bill Walton to mentioning Klay
@mmortal03
@mmortal03 2 жыл бұрын
Klay is a great career three point shooter, but so are other players who didn't make the list. In overall advanced statistics, he's not even in the top 250! Look at career Win Shares and career WS/48, for example. Yes, he's 20th all-time in made threes, but, heck, look at a guy like Kyle Lowry, who people forget is 18th all-time in made threes *and* has had much better WS/48 compared to Klay. Klay will likely pass Lowry on all-time made threes and in total points if he returns to his past form, but it's not like Klay has shown some sort of dominance in combined metrics compared to other players. He's just been a very good scorer in today's game, but even on that measure he's not in the top 75 for points per game for his career.
@SamuelJ888
@SamuelJ888 2 жыл бұрын
@@mmortal03 i guess for Klay Im looking at the overall picture. In my opinion, hes a top 3 shooter of all time and he plays elite defense. On top of that hes a 3x champ whose team went to 5 straight NBA finals. I think I would easily take him over Melo and Lillard and Westbrook(ppl in his era)
@yunqanqel
@yunqanqel 2 жыл бұрын
If Stephen A getting votes this list can’t be legit
@charlesc.b2435
@charlesc.b2435 2 жыл бұрын
Stop, SAS is annoying but he knows his basketball.
@meethvncho
@meethvncho 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesc.b2435 he know as much basketball as us fans do he not saying none we can’t
@michaelmccray1918
@michaelmccray1918 2 жыл бұрын
@@meethvncho but nobody listens to you tf 😂
@charlesc.b2435
@charlesc.b2435 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmccray1918 exactly
@charlesc.b2435
@charlesc.b2435 2 жыл бұрын
@@meethvncho That’s not really the point
@Gamevideowaves
@Gamevideowaves 2 жыл бұрын
They forgot “Mr Big Shot”
@AB-yt8yt
@AB-yt8yt 2 жыл бұрын
Watching Kendrick Perkins guard Dwight without help was crazy. In person
@starwarsfan-ye9hw
@starwarsfan-ye9hw 2 жыл бұрын
that’s the first time i feel like sas smoked sum. dwight WAS in the discussion to be THE BEST IN THE LEEEAGUE! that’s top 50 or better. how many players were in that discussion EVER???
@dedricklane4899
@dedricklane4899 2 жыл бұрын
And he was in that discussion with Lebron and Kobe For Years. It makes no sense. These old timers are so petty
@starwarsfan-ye9hw
@starwarsfan-ye9hw 2 жыл бұрын
@@dedricklane4899 and how does westbrick have a case over dwight or even melo?? never been near to the finals nor the best player status 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️
@dedricklane4899
@dedricklane4899 2 жыл бұрын
@@starwarsfan-ye9hw he went to the finals in 2012 and went to 5 conference finals. His 4 years of triple double and basically being the 2nd greatest stat accumulator behind Wilt Chamberlain. But like you there’s no way I take Westbrook over Dwight for my team.
@starwarsfan-ye9hw
@starwarsfan-ye9hw 2 жыл бұрын
@@dedricklane4899 it’s just ridiculous haha. don’t know what to say 🤯
@AfroWasiu
@AfroWasiu 2 жыл бұрын
dwight was on a team that built around him, and all he could do was get to the finals after defeating a Kevin Garnett-less Celtics. can't win a championship with Dwight being the #1 option. When he was on other teams that weren't built around him, he didn't know how to work in their system. If Dwight had High BBall IQ back when he was on the Steve Nash-Ron Artest-Kobe Lakers.... on paper they should've won. If Steve Nash has a problem with you.. you're the problem. The Magic team catered to Dwight, Dwight can't cater to systems that aren't built around him.
@xxxwolf6386
@xxxwolf6386 2 жыл бұрын
T-Mac is top 75 he has a case for on of thr most gifted players ever. Kobe himself said he was the toughest matchup he’s ever had.
@nellyville69
@nellyville69 2 жыл бұрын
Gshit Tmac was KD before KD
@alp6675
@alp6675 2 жыл бұрын
@@nellyville69 KD is much better
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 2 жыл бұрын
@@UndercoverSpill yet T-Mac in his prime couldn't even get past Baron Davis. He never made it out the first round of the playoffs
@Adam-fb5nt
@Adam-fb5nt 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Derrick Rose won a title and Finals MVP with the Bulls, and then a title with the Knicks or Timberwolves as sixth man of the year. That's Bill Walton.
@DATBOIYK
@DATBOIYK 2 жыл бұрын
DH was the most dominant player in the league when he was with Orlando
@alp6675
@alp6675 2 жыл бұрын
A great combination of defense and offense.
@omiguh7375
@omiguh7375 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no reason for dame to be on the list when there are clearly better options
@gdbssa
@gdbssa 2 жыл бұрын
Facts from a Blazers fan
@kg21bestpf94
@kg21bestpf94 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton "Throw it down big man throw it down" Lmao love when he used it say that.
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