Is dy/dx a fraction?

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5 жыл бұрын

Is dy/dx a fraction?
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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Pikachu or Doraemon?
@kanhatiwari8632
@kanhatiwari8632 5 жыл бұрын
Doraemon !!!!!
@braedenlarson9122
@braedenlarson9122 5 жыл бұрын
ドラえもん lol
@nellvincervantes3223
@nellvincervantes3223 5 жыл бұрын
Both
@ssdd9911
@ssdd9911 5 жыл бұрын
dingdang
@paulhaso
@paulhaso 5 жыл бұрын
Pikachu
@khairolhazeeq5426
@khairolhazeeq5426 5 жыл бұрын
Dresses like Pikachu *Uses Doraemon Song*
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
dy/dx is not a third grade fraction, it is a “calculus fraction”!
@ericm301
@ericm301 5 жыл бұрын
dy/dx is not a fraction. It is a ratio. As an example, pi is a ratio but can't be written as a fraction.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 жыл бұрын
Eric Mohs Actually, fraction and ratio are synonymous
@pkmntrainermann4476
@pkmntrainermann4476 5 жыл бұрын
If they talk like a Pikachu an talk like a Pikachu, all important properties are preserved so it's a homeomorphism, same with dy/dx. If it works like a fraction it is one
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 жыл бұрын
PKMNtrainer Mann No, that is not how that works. If it does not satisfy the definition of a ratio, then it is not one. And it does not satisfy the definition. Period. It is that simple.
@Danielagostinho21
@Danielagostinho21 5 жыл бұрын
@@ericm301 but π/4 is not a rational number but it is still a fraction
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Pikachu + Doraemon music Life is good
@rajns8643
@rajns8643 5 жыл бұрын
*Inserts Jelly-Filled Donuts*
@VibingMath
@VibingMath 5 жыл бұрын
o yes, didnt notice Doraemon music 😂
@khairolhazeeq5426
@khairolhazeeq5426 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahha
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Mak Vinci hahhahahahaa
@khaledchatah3425
@khaledchatah3425 5 жыл бұрын
Dear blackpenredpen in ur sense we can't also say that 8/3 is a fraction becuz we cant take 8 from 3 .dy/dx is a tiny change in y over a tiny change in x so its i think it IS a fraction since its a in physics dx/dt =V and it is a number the tiny change dx is a number infinitly small but it still a number correct me if i am not right
@shaochen5821
@shaochen5821 5 жыл бұрын
dy/dx isn’t a fraction... Or is it? *VSauce Music plays*
@hoixthegreat8359
@hoixthegreat8359 5 жыл бұрын
dy/dx = y/x confirmed
@andrzejsadownik4947
@andrzejsadownik4947 5 жыл бұрын
Is dy/dx a fraction? Well yes but actually no
@91722854
@91722854 5 жыл бұрын
more like X files music
@TommyRobinsond20
@TommyRobinsond20 3 жыл бұрын
@@91722854 Y/X files.
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 2 ай бұрын
We would be better without VSauce.
@Vincentsgm
@Vincentsgm 5 жыл бұрын
bprp : ofc i will not eat the whole pizza tonight me:
@krukowstudios3686
@krukowstudios3686 5 жыл бұрын
He must go to bed with an empty stomach every day :((
@future62
@future62 5 жыл бұрын
Right? I was gonna say... I thought they sliced pizzas to make them easier to eat
@filthypete13
@filthypete13 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this video because it highlights the importance of defining things clearly AND agreeing on those definitions. I've noticed in political discussions that not agreeing on definitions is a frequent problem.
@leeming1317
@leeming1317 Жыл бұрын
@sexweed *hides under the curve*
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 2 ай бұрын
How old are you? Just curiosity.
@filthypete13
@filthypete13 2 ай бұрын
@@samueldeandrade8535 old enough to be embarrassed.
@MrArray1967
@MrArray1967 Ай бұрын
Hmm. Then again. It's a reason it's called negative numbers, complex numbers, irrational numbers etc. Meaning definitions haven't always been spot on and needing refinements. Both definitions AND mindsets! As it is demonstrated in the video, dy/dx=f'(x) dy=f'(x) dx, so why will (some) people claim you can't prove/derive the chain rule like so dy/dx = dy/dx • du/du = dy/du • du/dx ? In this question I challenge the rigidity, stubbornness and overly conservatism of mathematical purists for the sake of evolution🤔😅 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNKUoJtpyZyceZ8.htmlsi=vHPlt2RzKaptcGPl
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 Ай бұрын
@@MrArray1967 really? BriTheMathGuy? The worst of the worst?
@johannesmoerland5438
@johannesmoerland5438 5 жыл бұрын
Locally, dy/dx behaves like a fraction; and assuming that dx is infinitesimally small, one can formally write dy=m*dx; and because m is a constant, integrating results in y=m*x+c, which is the linearisation/first order Taylor series expansion of the function at a given point. However, one should be careful when doing so as infinetisimal calculus (treating dy/dx like a fraction) is not without contradictions
@Robin-Dabank696
@Robin-Dabank696 3 ай бұрын
That's what I was gonna say, that it acts as a fraction in differential equations
@dukeofvoid6483
@dukeofvoid6483 27 күн бұрын
There aren't any contradictions though.
@youknowwho8925
@youknowwho8925 4 жыл бұрын
People before learning calculus: I have no idea why calculus is so hard, just cancel the d in d/dx to get 1/x People after learning calculus: FML
@createyourownfuture3840
@createyourownfuture3840 2 жыл бұрын
What does FML mean?
@youknowwho8925
@youknowwho8925 2 жыл бұрын
@@createyourownfuture3840 f**k my life
@createyourownfuture3840
@createyourownfuture3840 2 жыл бұрын
@@youknowwho8925 Oh...
@ArbitraryCodeExecution
@ArbitraryCodeExecution 4 ай бұрын
@@createyourownfuture3840forge mod loader
@ChaoticNeutral6
@ChaoticNeutral6 Ай бұрын
I found this way too funny
@crashcoptr
@crashcoptr 5 жыл бұрын
I saw the poll for this yesterday, and I was super excited for this video. Thanks BPRP!
@nishaindace2177
@nishaindace2177 5 жыл бұрын
My friend : dy/dx is a fraction Me: you are not a joker .You are the entire circus.
@levilikesnothavinganycreat4971
@levilikesnothavinganycreat4971 3 жыл бұрын
*clown instead of joker
@jayamitra4656
@jayamitra4656 5 жыл бұрын
That fraction explanation reminds me of the half derivative Peyam did... 1+1=2 😂😋
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha yea! I was filming him and I couldn’t hold my laugh!!
@vikaskalsariya9425
@vikaskalsariya9425 5 жыл бұрын
That was a funny one lol
@rodwayworkor9202
@rodwayworkor9202 5 жыл бұрын
You see, before today, I knew level 1 calculus and, just to understand your videos, I learnt from Product Rule, Quotient Rule, Chain Rule to Harmonic Series to Ratio Test in 3 hours. Must be the most divine part of my life. Writing, as soon as I completed Ratio Test.
@benjaminwalters6703
@benjaminwalters6703 5 жыл бұрын
Ok but how in the world did you predict 1/e
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a famous number in problbailty.
@user-bp6eh7en1v
@user-bp6eh7en1v 5 жыл бұрын
Nice try! This poll made it to obvious that you are using witchcraft. Begone evil fiend!
@user-oi9iw9te4d
@user-oi9iw9te4d 5 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen you may make a video introduce the relationship between 1/e and natural.😁😁
@foxyelen1203
@foxyelen1203 3 жыл бұрын
Is m/s a fraction
@Shishir27
@Shishir27 9 ай бұрын
​@@blackpenredpenand the Lambert W function
@garykwok8105
@garykwok8105 5 жыл бұрын
Oh!!! Thank you for this video!! In fact I have the same difficulties in learning calculus at first when being told that dydx is not a fraction. But it works like a fraction!! Your video is so helpful to me, a graduate student who has done tons of calculus questions, but still, don’t understand the meaning of dydx.
@orphos3797
@orphos3797 5 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed by how well you can explain stuff, keep it up
@obinnanwakwue5735
@obinnanwakwue5735 5 жыл бұрын
If someone looks like a Pikachu and talks like a Pikachu, then does it make him a Pikachu? Not always. It could be a Ditto. It could be a clone created by Mewtwo.
@raismin739
@raismin739 5 жыл бұрын
the problem is "someone" so can't be a pokemon...
@edomeindertsma6669
@edomeindertsma6669 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on your definition of a Pikachu.
@msalperen1
@msalperen1 3 жыл бұрын
Well we should perhaps define "Practically Pikachu"
@eliesehrhart-stoetzel7563
@eliesehrhart-stoetzel7563 2 жыл бұрын
what about Zoroark ???
@noahali-origamiandmore2050
@noahali-origamiandmore2050 2 жыл бұрын
It could also really be a Smeargle.
@qillerdaemon9331
@qillerdaemon9331 5 жыл бұрын
I heard that business about dy/dx not being a fraction during my first calculus class ("you can't separate the dx from the dy!"), then saw several years of math, physics, and chemistry professors operate it exactly as if it were a fraction. Just like you did at 9:20. Had once, just once!, one of them had suggested it was a *ratio* and not a fraction, I would have understood it fine. But no one ever did, and I just sat confused the whole time. This reminds me of when you added two integrals together, and I sat flabbergasted over the fact that you just did, while I had years of math teacher tell me "it's improper to do algebra on integrals..." Yet you did and it was perfectly legitimate!
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 жыл бұрын
Qiller Daemon Uh, no. You're wrong. A ratio IS a fraction. By definition, they're synonymous: they are different words that have the exact same meaning. That's beyond the point. In SOME problems in physics, you can treat it as a fraction because it's an abuse of notation that works. However, in most real-physics problems, it doesn't work. It only really works in Newtonian physics.
@aryanjoshi3342
@aryanjoshi3342 8 ай бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 are you implying that newtonian physics is not "real" physics because treating dy/dx sometimes is helpful? imo if a technique works for a general problem and there is good intuition behind that technique, then it's perfectly valid.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 8 ай бұрын
@@aryanjoshi3342 My comment does not imply Newtonian physics is not real physics. You said "...if a technique works for a general problem and there is a good intuition behind the technique, then it's perfectly valid." I agree with you. However, treating the dy/dx as a fraction does *not* satisfy the two criteria you provided here. The technique does NOT work in a general problem, it only works in SOME problems, as I made it very clear in my reply. Also, the technique does not carry "good intuition" behind it. As I said, it is nothing more than an abuse if notation.
@Blockster_cz
@Blockster_cz 6 ай бұрын
I didn't understand the explanation with graphs, but the part with ratios really got me. It's such a perfect way to show that even though something looks like a fraction, it isn't a fraction.
@JJPMaster
@JJPMaster 4 жыл бұрын
this needs to become the “send this to your crush without context” video of the math community
@MenacingPerson
@MenacingPerson Ай бұрын
Done.
@TSPxEclipse
@TSPxEclipse 5 жыл бұрын
10 minutes summarized: Q: Is dy/dx a fraction? A: No, dy/dx is a ratio of two unlike but related things; all fractions are either quotients or ratios, but not all ratios are fractions and all quotients are fractions. Ex 1. 5 mph is a ratio of 5 miles to (per) 1 hour, it cannot be thought of as 5 miles out of 1 hour. It simply wouldn't make sense. Ex 2. Spending $75/$100 is quotient representing the idea that $75 out of $100 was spent, it cannot be thought of as the ratio $75 to $100; in this case this would be saying there are $175 total, which is wrong.
@salmankhan-lr3yt
@salmankhan-lr3yt 4 жыл бұрын
Wow
@happylife9143
@happylife9143 4 жыл бұрын
The first example you gave is wrong dude because 5 mph is a rate ( because whenever you have 1 or per in the denominator then such fraction is called rate ) not ratio because ratio has like things in the numerator and denominator as well.
@happylife9143
@happylife9143 4 жыл бұрын
And your 2nd example is a ratio because it has same things in numerator and denominator
@dangis2400
@dangis2400 5 жыл бұрын
was wondering what was that poll for. now I see that my guess was correct and the poll had a purpose. great video as always!
@dangis2400
@dangis2400 5 жыл бұрын
google didn't do me well for this question, glad to see your explanation:)
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!
@richardwolfendale8783
@richardwolfendale8783 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I had been searching for a video that explained this well for such a long time
@sergiolozavillarroel3784
@sergiolozavillarroel3784 4 жыл бұрын
In single variable calculus it is similar to a fraction and you can kind of treat it like one (sometimes), but it doesn't work for multivariable calculus.
@silvermica
@silvermica 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, wow, I had always thought of dy/dx as a fraction - because I've always manipulated dy/dx algebraically.
@v0id_d3m0n
@v0id_d3m0n Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining! I've been doing differential equations and it helps to know that I can use dy/dx like a fraction.
@rafaelgpq
@rafaelgpq 4 жыл бұрын
you are really excellent in math and the way you explain solving every problem.
@RasperHelpdesk
@RasperHelpdesk 5 жыл бұрын
If you want to continue your pizza analogy for the 2/pi as a fraction, you can say your pizza has a diameter of 1 foot, which means you have pi feet of crust. So 2/pi is taking 2 feet of the pi feet of crust.
@yarsak8067
@yarsak8067 5 жыл бұрын
Well, that's the way math should be taught in schools😂😂😂
@khaledchatah3425
@khaledchatah3425 5 жыл бұрын
Dear blackpenredpen in ur sense we can't also say that 8/3 is a fraction becuz we cant take 8 from 3 .dy/dx is a tiny change in y over a tiny change in x so its i think it IS a fraction since its a in physics dx/dt =V and it is a number the tiny change dx is a number infinitly small but it still a number correct me if i am not right
@hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236
@hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236 4 жыл бұрын
*No Offence* Physics guys use mathematics weirdly tbh XD
@themonrovian8441
@themonrovian8441 Жыл бұрын
@@hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236 Does that include Sir Isaac Newton?
@hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236
@hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236 Жыл бұрын
I still stand by this statement as a freshman in college.
@bjornfeuerbacher5514
@bjornfeuerbacher5514 5 ай бұрын
Neither dy nor dy are numbers, so dy/dx is not a fraction. It's as simple as that. "tiny change" is not a mathematically valid term, "infinitesimally small number" also isn't. (At least not in standard analysis.)
@lyrimetacurl0
@lyrimetacurl0 5 жыл бұрын
I heard it's not realistic notation but that it helps with the chain rule (dy/du × du/dx = dy/dx) Also you can connect two -1D things (null sets) with a dot.
@paulhaso
@paulhaso 5 жыл бұрын
This is such a nice video, you'll solve people's doubts for years to come! Videos like this which are simple and solve basic questions are very necessary
@angietanaja
@angietanaja 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and feeling so helpful.
@proyc95
@proyc95 5 жыл бұрын
Very important video to distinguish between ratio and fractions! Thank you ☺️👍🌞 got a little philosophical with the Pikachu but it’s a very good point
@josephomondi629
@josephomondi629 5 ай бұрын
thank you. this thing has been boggling my mind for such a long time
@ShaunakDesaiPiano
@ShaunakDesaiPiano 5 ай бұрын
Today, 22nd February 2024, after probably eight or so years of watching blackpenredpen, is the first time I learned that the occasional piano intro used in these videos is the introduction to the Doraemon theme.
@pagetvido1850
@pagetvido1850 3 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation!
@AJ213Probably
@AJ213Probably 5 жыл бұрын
Good job on the thumbnails and titles lately
@ryanbingham83
@ryanbingham83 4 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen, I absolutely love your videos and your finesse-ful (is that a word?) approaches/explanations/attitudes with math topics - Thank you!!!I do have a comment/question with the results of this video though - Suppose y = x^2. First, I don't think of, say, dy/dx = 2x itself as a fraction, but rather a function (set of ordered pairs). This even applies to the second derivative! However, when we evaluate this function at, say, x = 3/4, we get:dy/dx = 3/2Taking a literal view of an equals sign, can't we say that since 3/2 is a fraction, that dy/dx (when evaluated at 3/4) must be a fraction?Or would that be like saying that since 8/2 is a fraction (I realize it's "improper"), and 8/2 = 4, then 4 must be a fraction as well? Any thoughts?
@ryanio123
@ryanio123 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! This was very helpful!
@puissantpoisson
@puissantpoisson 2 жыл бұрын
While it may be a "shortcut" on my part, I'd say a fraction is a number without dimensions, whereas dy/dx has the dimensions of y over x. That's not something I saw much during school in mathematics, but the notion of dimensions is important in physics (in most cases, just checking dimensions consistencies can help notice errors). As such, a fraction would be the same dimension as "1", I believe the term is to say it has no dimension, while the derivative of a position over time has the dimension of a speed. (Angles are, by definition, a ratio of two lengths, so an angle has no dimension, which can be a bit confusing).
@xOxAdnanxOx
@xOxAdnanxOx 4 жыл бұрын
that was a brilliant way to explain, thank you
@JSSTyger
@JSSTyger 5 жыл бұрын
After learning complex integrals in our last lesson, we will now learn fractions.
@bringbackthedislikecount6767
@bringbackthedislikecount6767 6 ай бұрын
Physicist: short answer, yes. Long answer, hell yeah
@abudujana2244
@abudujana2244 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the way he writes by switching markers
@claireli88
@claireli88 5 жыл бұрын
By right we should write dy/dx as d(y)/dx but for simplicity mathematicians write it as dy/dx without the brackets.
@jordanrutledge7943
@jordanrutledge7943 5 жыл бұрын
Both are useful in different contexts. For instance if we have y=lnx, we could differentiate with respect to x as an operator on both sides of the equation (just as you would multiply both sides by a constant, for instance” d(y)/dx=d(lnx)/dx But perhaps you have a differential equation such as y’=3y/x, ignoring the fact that we could easily solve this in our heads, we could rewrite it as dy/dx=3y/x then multiply both sides by dx/3y and get dy/3y=dx/x Which allows us to integrate and solve. So both notations are useful to clarify certain situations
@claireli88
@claireli88 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@claireli88
@claireli88 5 жыл бұрын
@Taurus Capricorn dy/dx is actually a gradient function expressing the difference in y with respect to the difference in x, that is why the use of 'd ' for the difference.
@joluju2375
@joluju2375 4 жыл бұрын
I would even prefer d(y)/d(x).
@justforfun2238
@justforfun2238 4 жыл бұрын
@@joluju2375 (d)(y)/(d)(x)
@praveenb9048
@praveenb9048 5 жыл бұрын
Is Δy / Δx a fraction? They are not infinitesimals, so that is indeed a fraction. But Δy is not a "part of a whole". But I jest, I jest! Great video, as ever.
@bettyswunghole3310
@bettyswunghole3310 Жыл бұрын
Very good explanation. Even I could understand it!
@ThiagoGlady
@ThiagoGlady 5 жыл бұрын
What about 8/2? 8 is not a part of the hole either, since you can't have 8 parts of something into 2. So, thecnically, improper fractions like these are not fractions at all?
@fluxtwee2804
@fluxtwee2804 5 жыл бұрын
ThiagoGlady That is a part of a whole. It doesnt have to be a part smaller than the whole for it to be a part of a whole.
@obinnanwakwue5735
@obinnanwakwue5735 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think that matters in cases like that because that simplifies to 4 wholes
@ThiagoGlady
@ThiagoGlady 5 жыл бұрын
@@fluxtwee2804 Using the same logic as him, how i am supose to eat eight slices of pizza that only have two of them?
@fluxtwee2804
@fluxtwee2804 5 жыл бұрын
ThiagoGlady Not gonna lie I watched the first 5 minutes so idk
@doge_69
@doge_69 2 ай бұрын
So I was just wondering if it's a ratio or not all along, and you just answered my question.
@zubair9648
@zubair9648 5 жыл бұрын
if you set up rigorous foundations to work with infinitesimal quantities then it can be treated as a fraction, but it requires some work to get to that point to begin with (look up nonstandard analysis for more info)
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 жыл бұрын
majmuh24 Even in nonstandard analysis, dy/dx is not a fraction. It is an operator acting on a vector.
@zubair9648
@zubair9648 5 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 formally yes, but the utility of nonstandard analysis is that it rigorously puts dy and dx on an independent footing as infinitesimals meaning that any fractional manipulation of dy/dx becomes a completely valid step instead of just notational sleight of hand originally in the time of leibniz and newton (before calculus was put on a rigorous footing) this was exactly how people thought of the derivative but in order to formalise this intuition takes a lot of machinery
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 жыл бұрын
majmuh24 No, nonstandard analysis does not set the footing of dx and dy as infinitesimal quantities. Nonstandard analysis is only different from standard analysis in that they use hyperreal numbers instead of real numbers. d/dx is still only a linear operator in nonstandard analysis, and dx is still only a one-form in nonstandard analysis, and there is no division of one-forms in nonstandard analysis just as there is none in standard analysis. People love to bring up nonstandard analysis yet all seem to forget about Leibniz' equivalence principle. It makes me wonder whether people ACTUALLY know anything about nonstandard analysis, or if they only bring it up because they have heard about it and they think it counts as an argument. The linear operator d/dx may be defined differently in nonstandard analysis, but it remains a linear operator only still, which is the relevant point here.
@pdp11
@pdp11 5 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 You can divide two elements of a vector space if they are a scalar multiple of each other, which is exactly the case with the one-forms df and dx.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 жыл бұрын
Aram Hăvărneanu No, you cannot. Go study some differential geometry. df is not inherently a one-form, so listing it as one is incorrect.
@gusinthecloud
@gusinthecloud 5 жыл бұрын
the best Math teacher in KZfaq!!!
@mikelindsay6980
@mikelindsay6980 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I was going to ask about differential equations where you pretend dy/dx IS a fraction. Off to have my 33/ pizza now!
@marcioamaral7511
@marcioamaral7511 5 жыл бұрын
You don't pretend
@liefdeltora3088
@liefdeltora3088 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how to intuit grad, div, and curl? I'm taking multivariate calc next semester and I have a rough handle on the mechanics, but I have a hard time grasping them conceptually.
@asthmen
@asthmen 5 жыл бұрын
Try out 3blue1brown's series on the vector calculus, it's pretty good ;)
@marcioamaral7511
@marcioamaral7511 5 жыл бұрын
With physics everything becomes clearer Grad? Just study mechanics Div and curl ? E & M should give you a cool understanding of those concepts
@muhammadhussainsarhandi9928
@muhammadhussainsarhandi9928 5 жыл бұрын
In separable differential equations, we treat dy/dx as a fraction. For example, in Newton's Law of Cooling, dT/dt = - k (T -Ta), where dT is Temperature differential, dt is time differential, k is cooling constant, T is body's Temperature and Ta is ambient (surrounding) Temperature. To solve this equation, in the first step we multiply both sides by dt and divide both sides by (T - Ta), as if dT/dt is a fraction.
@aceahant5045
@aceahant5045 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bro. You just answered my lifelong question from 9th grade
@ivanrodionov9724
@ivanrodionov9724 Жыл бұрын
Very interresting!
@Molaleni
@Molaleni 7 ай бұрын
That was beautifully explained
@danuttall
@danuttall 4 жыл бұрын
When defining the rational number set, I define the denominator as a natural number, that is {1, 2, 3, ...}. So Q={m/n|m∈Z,n∈N}.
@user-mt9ux2di6u
@user-mt9ux2di6u 4 жыл бұрын
That creepy pikachu smiling at me and waving at me scarred me for life
@butterplayz_yt9606
@butterplayz_yt9606 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I thought I accidentally clicked on the wrong video when I saw the pikachu question
@andreybyl
@andreybyl 5 жыл бұрын
Answer YES!!! its ftaction for two differentials dy and dx, like f/g for functions.... :)))) and dy(∆x)/dx(∆x)=f'(x) ...differentiall its linear functional..
@calyodelphi124
@calyodelphi124 5 жыл бұрын
QQ: What's that music that you have fade-in @1:35? I hear it used a ton over at Ants Canada and I keep trying to find it to no avail. D:
@MisterBinx
@MisterBinx 3 жыл бұрын
I got an A in calc I and II and totally forgot that the line connecting two points of the function is called a secant line. So I learned more than I hoped just off that one fact LOL
@plaustrarius
@plaustrarius 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of questions in this video, I like it! So, when we add or multiply fractions they are still fractions, that doesn't change their nature. but adding or multiplying infinite fractions allows us to describe ratios like pi/4 or e^2 etc. should that really change their fraction-ness though?! I mean of course it does but its a good question. I can even add together infinite things and get a finite answer, 1=.9+.09+.009... for an easy example. so whats really going on? I like to think of dy/dx as a fraction when talking about nested functions or functions of more than one variable, of course they dont act exactly like fractions or even ratios for that matter. Its kinda like how most people (i think) approach complex numbers. What can I take from real number algebra and calculus and apply to complex numbers? when do i have to change my definitions to fit new scenarios? I don't even believe in the normal definition for pi really. if pi is the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, AND pi is an irrational number that cannot be written as a/b, someone has been lying to my my whole life! I define pi geometrically as "the area of the unit circle" that's it.
@theweirdwolf1877
@theweirdwolf1877 2 жыл бұрын
Pi is the ratio of circumference to diameter, so this means that either circumference or diameter are irrational
@shyamdas6231
@shyamdas6231 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thanks a lot!
@justsomegirlwithoutamustac5837
@justsomegirlwithoutamustac5837 4 жыл бұрын
you are the best math teacher ever
@ekxo1126
@ekxo1126 5 жыл бұрын
For youtube 0/0 = 0.5, cause if you look at the likes bar when there are still 0 likes and 0 dislikes the blue part covers 50% of the bar
@GamerLuis2710x
@GamerLuis2710x 5 жыл бұрын
Todo un genio hermano! Saludos
@shaochen5821
@shaochen5821 5 жыл бұрын
dy/dx= y/x ... fraction?? *VSauce Music plays*
@ChaineYTXF
@ChaineYTXF 5 жыл бұрын
Or, is it?
@nikitakipriyanov7260
@nikitakipriyanov7260 4 жыл бұрын
I was searching precisely for this comment.
@AK-tc9xp
@AK-tc9xp 5 жыл бұрын
What's sad about the Indian education system is that it has equipped me to evaluate complex integrals, solve hard differential equations, without actually understanding what dy and dx are.
@nathanoher4865
@nathanoher4865 16 күн бұрын
Rote memorization vs. intuition development
@kriswillems5661
@kriswillems5661 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The are many kinds of fractions: common fractions (with integer numbers), but there are also fractions with irrational numbers. The reason dy/dx is not a fraction is that it is the limit of a fraction. Limits of fractions are not fractions. Mathematically a ratio can be expressed as a fraction and in mathematics they are handled as fractions. In wikipedia a ratio is called a form of a fraction. So, a ratio is a fraction in mathematics. Saying a ratio is not a fraction is not correct. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraction_(mathematics)
@adb012
@adb012 4 жыл бұрын
dy/dx is not the limit of a fraction when you define dy and dx the way BPRP did, which is, let y=f(x), take a point y1=f(x1), let m be the slope of the straight line that is tangent to y=f(x) in x=x1, take a Dx (delta x), let dx=Dx, take the y coordinate OF THAT STRAIGHT TANGENT LINE corresponding to x1+dx, let the difference between that y coordinate and y1 be dy (which is NOT equal to Dy which is based on the original function f, not its tangent line). Defined in this way, dx and dy are finite (and could be actually quite large) values that are independent of a limit. Under these conditions, it happens to be that lim| Dx->0| Dy/Dx = dy/dx (under certain conditions like f is defined, continuous and smooth in x1). So while dy and dx are finite (i.e. not infinitesimal) numbers, their quotient is equal to the quotient of the infinitesimal values of Dy and Dx (i.e. the limit of the quotient when Dx->0, in which case also Dy will ->0 and you always have a 0/0 limit)
@hakeem4870
@hakeem4870 3 жыл бұрын
But didn't he say 1:2:3 cannot be written coherently as a fraction?
@nokompromis2297
@nokompromis2297 3 жыл бұрын
@@hakeem4870 Bc he's not really taking about division, but rather about ratio. If you have 2 bananas, 4 pineapples and 6 apples, the question is to find relation between the amounts of these fruits, you write it as 2:4:6 i.e. 1:2:3. If you divide those you get a nonsense unrelated to your question.
@nokompromis2297
@nokompromis2297 3 жыл бұрын
@@hakeem4870 I mean, you can write it as a fraction, but not in the context BPRP speaks.
@camrouxbg
@camrouxbg 2 жыл бұрын
So now wiKipEdiA is the arbiter of all things mathematical? Math-wikipedia is pretty good, but by no means is is complete. By definition, a _fraction_ is a part of a whole: a ratio of two integers. If you have e/pi, that is not a fraction but a quotient. 1.2/3.8 would be considered an improper fraction, but it is usually best to look at them as quotients anyway.
@peterromero284
@peterromero284 5 жыл бұрын
What if we define a fraction as a division problem? Is dy/dx a division problem? dy ÷ dx?
@kousikbasak6044
@kousikbasak6044 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir...
@mushfiqnabil6392
@mushfiqnabil6392 Ай бұрын
d/dx (y) is a derivative of a dependable variable y with respect to a indepent variable x.It basically it.We express it by the notatiom d/dx (y). But there is another dy/dx which behave as a fraction as we saw countless of time.That dx and dy are called differentials.differentials means infinitesimal change in a variable. They both means pretty much the same in single varibale calculus.but in multibariable calculus there are some differences. One of the key differences is differentials dy/dx means the differential of two function. On the other hand derivative dy/dx means the derivative of y as a function x.
@alfredobadillo2280
@alfredobadillo2280 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good question and a great answer
@JJ_TheGreat
@JJ_TheGreat 5 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen I was wondering: When you compute probabilities and get a ratio as an answer, is that a fraction? Thanks.
@farhansyabibi170
@farhansyabibi170 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain the mathematical formula for the Anywhere Door?
@mayoneso7393
@mayoneso7393 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for: is ∫f(x)dx a product?
@stumbling
@stumbling 5 жыл бұрын
Is there any operation you can do with a fraction that would break dy/dx? (Not cancelling d's or something like that, have to treat 'dx' as one symbol) Is this correct: y(dx) = dy? I explain dy/dx by saying it is like having a rectangle with height and width but now scale the rectangle down arbitrarily small and you can no longer say how big the rectangle is but the ratio between height and width remains constant. Is this a good explanation?
@APaleDot
@APaleDot 6 ай бұрын
Okay, this is an old comment, but for posterity I want to note a subtle mistake in this comment: I don't think y(dx) = dy. I think y(x + dx) = y(x) + dy(x). Consider dx a value so small that when you square it it is essentially 0. Then take y(x) = x²: y(x + dx) = (x + dx)² = x² + 2xdx + (dx)² = x² + 2xdx = y(x) + dy(x) It also follows from this explanation that dy(x) = y(x + dx) - y(x). Dividing by dx, you get the definition of the derivative: dy(x) / dx = (y(x + dx) - y(x)) / dx
@xshortguy
@xshortguy 4 жыл бұрын
And here I was thinking that a fraction was an equivalence class defined on a ring R with (a, b, c, d) in R (a, b) ~ (c, d) ad = bc and b, d are not zero divisors. :(
@ninjan125
@ninjan125 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed BPRD never truly justified why dy/dx is a ratio, other than just saying "it doesn't make any sense" and proclaiming that dy/dx is similar to a ratio though analogy - that is not a proof that it isn't a fraction. All fractions can be expressed as ratios, and saying dy/dx can be expressed as a ratio or that it is similar to one doesn't rule out the possibility that dy/dx is a fraction. Change my mind
@danielfloresretamal2471
@danielfloresretamal2471 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad there are several people in the comments who doesn't really take it for granted. I don't believe it either, not because I know dy/dx is a fraction, but because his proof was really poor plus I have different meanings for fractions, not only the one he gave.
@Danielagostinho21
@Danielagostinho21 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielfloresretamal2471 Anders KällBerg, can I hide myself here? it's dangerous outside, please please please
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 5 жыл бұрын
Anders Källberg His argument is bad indeed. But it's actually fairly trivial to understand that dy/dx is not a fraction. Why? Because d/dx is only an operator and nothing else.
@Danielagostinho21
@Danielagostinho21 5 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 d/dx is not the same as dy/dx, dy/dx is a short form of the formal definition of a derivative
@danielfloresretamal2471
@danielfloresretamal2471 5 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 a fraction can be seen as an operator as well
@jorgeangaritaperez2171
@jorgeangaritaperez2171 5 жыл бұрын
BlackpikachuandRedpikachu???
@bedoe9684
@bedoe9684 7 ай бұрын
i love this video. I was so confused why do we do "du" in U-substitution, thanks man.
@Anitasingh20027
@Anitasingh20027 2 жыл бұрын
Sir u are great.
@xaxuser5033
@xaxuser5033 5 жыл бұрын
what an unexpected question !!
@willnewman9783
@willnewman9783 5 жыл бұрын
If, for vectors, you can say that 2v/v=2, then it is the same thing with dy/dx, and then it is a fraction
@rindirputra619
@rindirputra619 5 жыл бұрын
If i have a complex number = 1 + 1i , then i devide it by 2 (a real number) then it become = (1+1i)/2r = 1/2 + 1i/2 I believie the (1/2) part is a fraction because both lay on the real axis My question is the (1i/2) part, or we simply wrote it (i/2) in math, is it a fraction? If i define it as [(1/2)* i ] i believe the (1/2) is a fraction then it multiply by i If i define it as (1i/2) would it become a fraction as well? Because it's not lay down on the same axis which mean imaginary numb. is not part of the real numb. , what do you think?
@user-ey2pl3ip3u
@user-ey2pl3ip3u Жыл бұрын
Your explanation is amazing notwithstanding your English (I'm trying to figure it out btw)😅😅
@lighterless528
@lighterless528 5 жыл бұрын
The prediction was amazing....
@andrewchin3601
@andrewchin3601 5 жыл бұрын
Love your shirt. Where can I get one like it?
@paulchapman8023
@paulchapman8023 5 ай бұрын
Isn't implicit differentiation (dx/dx = 1) just the inverse property of multiplication as applied to differentials?
@stapler942
@stapler942 2 жыл бұрын
Further confusing the matter is that we tend to stick dy/dx in front of some expression as if it's part of a product. Then you take linear algebra and vector calculus and we are placing all sorts of symbols and operators in front of other symbols, the way we learned to write products, including but not limited to: matrices multiplied by matrices, matrices multiplied by vectors, and functions composed with other functions (which, we are told, are equivalent to the transformations given by a matrix). And then our good old friend dy/dx is there too, along with its bizarre cousin ∂f/∂x, and of course in all of this mess there are several types of product, some with their own symbol, and some taking no symbol at all...😝
@easygoing1719
@easygoing1719 5 жыл бұрын
"Is dy/dx a fraction?" Me: Is this a trick question?
@JustHoldIt539
@JustHoldIt539 4 жыл бұрын
Im a dirty physicist. obviously I use it like a fracti0on, makes life a lot easier. Thought the mathematicians at our university hate us, for using such dirty techniques.
@112BALAGE112
@112BALAGE112 5 жыл бұрын
Define the differential df(x, Δx) = f'(x)*Δx, where f' means the limit definition of the derivative. Then dx = dx(x, Δx) = Δx, so dy/dx = (f'(x)*Δx)/Δx = f'(x).
@short-eu7bs
@short-eu7bs 2 жыл бұрын
couldn't a fraction be defined as a ratio of one thing to another? which in this case it'd be the change in y to the change in x?
@jarikosonen4079
@jarikosonen4079 5 жыл бұрын
What if discrete geometry, where dy,dx belong both to Z? If in CAD drawing grid is set to 1.0? Y and X easily can be y and x coordinates.. but what if da/db? bu
@ldanielmule8
@ldanielmule8 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a question: If m = tan(a) where a is the elevation angle of the line, then could be dy/dx = tan(a), a being the elevation angle of the tangent line? Is this in some case useful?
@bjornfeuerbacher5514
@bjornfeuerbacher5514 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that's right, and yes, that's useful in lots of cases. E. g. when you want to determine the maximum elevation angle of a hill.
@hakeem4870
@hakeem4870 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! But isn't 8/3 also not a part of a whole?
@sudeeptaganguly3121
@sudeeptaganguly3121 4 жыл бұрын
I want to know why the variable separeble method works
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