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@Labor_Jones2 жыл бұрын
If an AMP is involved with the products, then there should be Tone Controls! ... I can see this company was aiming to SALESMEN who want to walk someone (a buyer) to a BIG BASS impressive QUICK CLOSE kind of sound, sounds like that companys main target.... me thinks.
@kavehsaffari55652 жыл бұрын
Devialet takes pride in its room correction software in all previous design models. Why fail so miserably in this design ? Redeux?
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
@@kavehsaffari5565 Considering they have an amps priced at 6500-10000 (bit.ly/392hWHW / bit.ly/3Nw5PSe), I'd say they think real highly of them.
@Labor_Jones2 жыл бұрын
@Douglas Blake The tone control was left off because they (the company) wanted to limit or eliminate the chance of someone damping the Bass and stealing the AFFECT it has to someone not expecting it?
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
For anyone who is interested, when we reached out to Devialet to ask about tone controls being made available at a later date, they said: "Devialet Dione comes with the room calibration feature, several listening modes to accurately tune audio, therefore we did not include an EQ to avoid unwanted artifacts and duplicate features. Therefore we don't have any plan of adding an EQ so far; but we don't close doors."
@kmvuniverse2 жыл бұрын
and here ladies and gentlemen,is why Andrew Robinson and Kristy are my favourite audio gear reviewers. man the honesty In this review is 🔥
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
We appreciate you tuning in to watch, Marvel!
@ekapolx2 жыл бұрын
I've been using Dione for a month and I really like it. Bass isn't an issue; it works fine for me. I compare the sound to two Phantom II that I previously used; the music sound from Dione is similar to Phantom II, but not as wide.
@Harry-Giles2 жыл бұрын
Despite being a non recommended product review you guys were completely fair. Appreciate the honesty as always. Really hope the company updates this. That would be a fun reassessment.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Harry. I hope we can give it a second look if they ever issue and update.
@improvedgarage2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the transparency. It was clear that you WANTED to like this product and I appreciate you took the path of being honest.
@TechMitAlex2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that the Ambeo is still a better choice. I almost considered switching to the Dione. As always, thank you for the great review and your honest thoughts on the product.
@zieonth2 жыл бұрын
I’ve no idea what environmental surroundings you test in but I’ve yet to find any fault, it’s an incredible piece of engineering. It’s simply breathtaking. Even in stereo, anyone considering one of these, best 2k I’ve ever spent
@kientvu2 жыл бұрын
You touch on a lot of different things that I have thought about in this review. I was fortunate enough to grow up in a household where my father and uncle were "audiophiles" and we had a never ending stream of high-end audio equipment go in and out of the home. Obviously, once things were set up correctly...the audio was sublime...nevermind the fact that there were about 2 miles of cabling going around the room. After getting married, there was a compromise and I had to go down the soundbar route. Switched from Martin Logan electrostatics with Mcintosh integrated 2.0 system to a soundbar theater (wife likes movies and I like music). Obviously it was a bit disappointing, but we ended up with an entire Sonos system for our theater. Sure things could be better on the audio front, but the setup and the user interface of the Sonos app sold me. That is one thing that I believe that traditional audio manufacturers have a hard time replicating because in the end, it requires a different skill set than what the manufacturers are used to. Developing a great user interface along with a great user experience requires an army of people and is a huge investment. As far as the bass-heavy sound profile. That is what people these days are excited about. What can you do? It is what sells in today's market. To most, neutral sounding is boring...
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
You definitely make a good point with "To most, neutral sounding is boring..." Kristi is a perfect example of that truth. When something is super neutral, she's usually bored and prefers a more lively/forward sound.
@patrikbjorling43912 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews She must love those Fortes then...
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
She absolutely did.
@Labor_Jones2 жыл бұрын
Turn Table WARS ;) ---> 3 Turntables - Tech 1500C - 1200GR - 1200mkVII. The range in Cost is approx. $1,000 to $1295 to $1695 prices I recently saw. All of them in current production. I think this could clarify how Audio-Tech and Pioneer cost per Technics Popularity COST might be linked and easier to choose other LIKE Models. .... I don't know if you can see this point, but I have a feeling it would be a good and very watched episode.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea, will take it into consideration.
@kago902 жыл бұрын
This is really great evaluation, analysis and review. When I listened the product in their test room for 5-10 minutes, I was really impressed about the bass. Your comment about dolby atmos part is 100% correct in my opinion. When we started a song from their tablet through spotify (I assume) something was off.. of course I couldnt locate that... Thank you o ce again...
@Michael-xz1nk2 жыл бұрын
Wow…a negative / not recommended review….thanks for your honesty. Very refreshing!!
@thomascuzela38262 жыл бұрын
I was faced with the choice of Ambeo or Dione. I chosed Dione. Why? The Ambeo definitely has the better Atmos range. But the Dione comes across much more powerful and not only because of the much deeper bass, eg music sounds thinner with the Ambeo, really punchy with the Dione. The Dione also has the superior style, the Ambeo looks a bit meh, sorry. At the end of the day everyone has to decide for themselves what they like better - for me it was the Dione.
@BruceyEmpire2 жыл бұрын
The Dione has been talked up by devialet so much that I very nearly gambled and ordered one to replace my ambeo. I’m soooo glad I didn’t take that gamble! The Ambeo truly is soundbar king.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Oh you should definitely stick with your Ambeo for now.
@TravionMusic2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the Ambeo. 3 HDMI inputs, Atmos, DTS-MA, and DTS:X support, the ability to add a third party sub, and the Ambeo upscaling technology… it’s gonna be a long time before we get another soundbar like this
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
The next Ambeo will likely be a new Ambeo. LOL. If Sennheiser would hire someone who has a fresh design language, along with their tech...they could be unapproachable.
@BruceyEmpire2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews where do I apply? 😂
@gbolt1117 ай бұрын
But I dont like ambeo design. Dione looks so much better..:)
@joepelletier53812 жыл бұрын
In my limited experience I feel like among the people I usually talk to for the most part they only differentiate speakers by how low they go and how loud they punch low. Usually when I mention how good the detail is everyone gets very confused, so especially for the budget side of things I find everything to be bass heavy, usually without any real depth. People are plenty happy to party north of 50 Hz. Pretty surprising for a speaker of that price though, you would expect more discerning customers.
@msvalade Жыл бұрын
Really need to revisit this after the firmware updates. When “bass reducer” mode is on, the Dione’s EQ curve sounds very linear to me (and similar to my Beosound Stage).
@jacquesleroux85282 ай бұрын
Great to hear, so good for music listening?
@TRX25EX2 ай бұрын
I have issues with it which is exact opposite to what everyone experiencing and that's the fact that there's no bass at all!!!! To the point I feel like it's broken, I did room correction and it starts at low Hz and at that time I felt bass otherwise I don't feek it at all, and Bass reducer is not enabled
@patrickw37832 жыл бұрын
I own the Dione now for 6 weeks or so. And I must say the bass is very heavy in movies. I have 2 phantoms for a few years now and the updates helped a lot so I hope they also give some good update for the Dione. Great video btw!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@winnoe2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Hi Andrew, I saw in a french review channel (French is my 4th language but I had to keep on replaying to understand correctly haha) and i saw that if the TV is connected with Devialet Dione in e-ARC, there is no audio delay. Couldnt we just treble up the TV speakers in relation to the devialet so that it boosts the "missing" higher end. I know that would probably make the treble more forward and lose positional, but make that could somewhat make up for it?
@BoronAlloy2 жыл бұрын
@@winnoe Why would you want to start faffing about with doing that, especially after spending the amount of money the Dione costs? You expect things to work correctly for this sort of money, not be compromised, and trading purely off its reputation earned from the Phantom.
@winnoe2 жыл бұрын
@@BoronAlloy I suppose you are right, that I have lost track of the goals and only finding ways of justifying a purchase of the Dione.... because it is already on the way here :/ Regretfully i8o
@BoronAlloy2 жыл бұрын
@@winnoe Presuming you purchased online, without having heard it first, then give it a listen, and judge for yourself if it’s worth keeping, in the hope Devialet provide a firmware and app software update to allow the frequency response to be tailored for your room acoustics. If it’s a compromise too far, then simply return it, hopefully without financial penalty. The third consideration, at further expense, and room decor detraction, is to invest in the likes of ASC’s Tube Traps or RPG’s Modex Corner, which should tame the bass, and help even out the response.
@dajuice42002 жыл бұрын
I've had the Klipsch, the Fives for over a year and love them. My only complaint was the bass. You can have too much of a good thing. Luckily they put an EQ in the app. All things in balance, and everything sounds better.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
Being able to make adjustments always helps!
@CBaskins4202 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge bass head and love to make my home have that feeling of sitting in a Honda Civic with 215s in the back lol. I have a small bedroom with an LG sound bar right now but I just upgraded my living room to a Sony receiver Dayton subs and other speakers to complete a 3.2 setup until I find time to go in the attic and drill holes and run wire. You inspired me to start building a home theater on a budget which has been super fun and well worth the investment. Now I can literally have huge house parties and stuff like that without breaking the bank. My bedroom is super small and with the LG I should be able to replace it with something like this thanks to your review.
@sunvalleydrivemusic2 жыл бұрын
We really need more reviews like this. I get the argument that reviewers don’t want to share things they aren’t excited about, but this is great. Thanks y’all!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
I can't pretend to know what motivates other reviewers to make _or not make_ any particular review. I can only tell you that _from our end_ whether a review is positive or negative, this never weighs into our decision to publish or not. That said, brands and retailers definitely apply pressure to creators like ourselves to not go forward with reviews that may have a negative impact of their bottom line. While understandable, it's frustrating because we look at it from the point of view that we are all adults and perfection is typically unobtainable. We're all just trying to help one another in either making products better while also informing consumers as to what may be a good fit for them. While I was disappointed in the Dione's performance, it still could be exactly what someone else is looking for. But...my hunch is that the main reason you do not see many negative reviews likely comes down to creators and/or publications not wanting to be cut off from the possibility of receiving product in the future. We have absolutely been on the receiving end of this type of situation which is why we are always grateful to the brands who are able to take the good with the bad. For the most part once the "shock" of a negative review passes, we find brands to be proactive in wanting to make the next person's or customer's experience better. Side note: it is way easier to make a positive review because if you're going to potentially criticize something you gotta be doubly sure that you what you are saying and showing is on point. And believe it or not, viewer criticisms has the potential to get really nasty if you are critical about something that they love.
@sunvalleydrivemusic2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews yeah, kinda bummed because that unit does look gorgeous. Hopefully they find ways to resolve it. In the meantime, keep up the good work. It is noticed, and appreciated!
@shemsureshot2 жыл бұрын
It’s an impressive looking soundbar with an impressive problem for a soundbar to have! They could almost brag about it! I think enthusiasts have a fair amount of influence but there is a disconnect why anyone would leave out basic tone controls on a device like this. In contrast I just got my lil Sonos Ray last week and was once again reminded of the brilliance of their app.
@genekeeth21792 жыл бұрын
Seldom so I comment other than to tell you how very much I appreciate you. To you final question, I can only tell you when I first started purchasing home stereo equipment, I was seeking more bass trying to reach a more dynamic movie going feel. Finding that looking for that experience at home wasn't as pleasant as I grew older and more experienced sonically. I believe it's a youth thing....the louder the better. This product may be targeted for younger market and now younger people have more money than my age group had thirty odd years ago for me.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
I could see two main target audiences for this product - one being a younger audience as well as those on the opposite end of the age bracket looking/needing to downsize but who still want big sound.
@felixbadoe59852 жыл бұрын
Great work Andrew! Now I can’t wait for your review of the new Samsung S990B Soundbar.
@girtsbagajevs76232 жыл бұрын
Well Andrew Majority of the time with the sound bar systems you do wish as a user of you could have a little more base so answer to your questions is yes, developers do get all these enquiries from customers to see if there is any other way to get more out of existing systems so when they release new products there you go 😅 there is more then enough base , you are welcome and enjoy 😅 By the way I did purchased my sound system based on your review and will improve it in future and when I get there I will take your recommendations, thank you
@techmed-rainer2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this again informative and entertaining video! I have the Sennheiser Ambeo and have a lot of fun with it. But whenever some highend soundbar from one of those major brands enters the market I think, well now there might be a soundbar overtaking the Ambeo, which is in the market for quite a while now. But no, Sennheiser did such a good job, that they are still on top.
@tjadekegler86752 жыл бұрын
Maybe this soundbar can function as a kind of eye/ear-opener for people that have no interest in soundbars because of the disbelive that great sound can come from a small package. Your drawn to the Bar because of the looks, you're amazed by the bass and from then on out you can "respect" soundbars maybe a bit more and inform youself about this Speakergenre. Like the Beats Headphones, which were a starting point for many to get intrested in Audio.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
That's a unique, but maybe not "wrong" way of looking at it. This bar in a retail environment would DEFINITELY pull someone's interest to it on the strength of the bass alone.
@benjaminqilafku57142 жыл бұрын
With its debut sound bar, Devialet delivers authentic, high-fidelity home theatre audio from a stylish enclosure that hides a slate of innovations. Chief among these are the brand’s proprietary ADH amplification and speaker active matching (SAM) processing, which provide both tangible power and exemplary control over the Dione’s eight independent bass units. Joining the fun are side-firing and upfiring full-range drivers for Dolby Atmos/surround playback, plus the distinctive Orb centre channel, which can be rotated to ensure an accurate performance when the soundbar has been wall-mounted. In use the Dione astonishes with its low-end poise and slam, evocative ambience and smooth detail reproduction. To hear one is to want one. With this wordy description the EISA awarded the Dione sb as the best high end product of the year for 2022. For the folks that don't know what EISA is it's the Oscar's version of electronics and gear related to audio, video and imaging. It yearly awards to the wide public the best of the crop in these fields. John Darko by the way is a member of hi fi audio panel. And quite by chance I stumbled to this article that let me know that this sound bar been awarded the winner in its category. It happened just a couple of hours after watching quite convincing Andrew's and Christy's take on it. I was left a bit puzzled and lost for clues why these respected reviewers valued this product so differently. EISA panel members are made of editors from the most renowned online and press magazines around the globe and each of them is specialized in the field he, she covers and the vote is secret. I admittingly have a soft spot for Andrew and Christy and have been an earlier subscriber for the channel back in the days when Christy wasn't yet a voice in the background, remember the video when hanging out in the LP store looking for few pennies bargains in the boxes, sorry for digressing.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
It's really impossible to say how or why one reviewer/editor feels the way they do about a product and another may feel the opposite. Sound, after all is mostly subjective. All I can do is speak about my own experience and as it relates to the Dione, it wasn't good. Two units were sent to us and both sounded pretty bad and measured just as terribly. Maybe it's a slow year for soundbars? I don't know. Last I checked we still have five months or so to go in 2022 so I'm going to refrain from putting together my "best of" anything list until we get closer to the end of the year. That said, if I had to pick that category today, the Dione wouldn't even make my top 5.
@randomtube82262 жыл бұрын
Thanks, almost bought it. The rotating center is so eye catching. But im not buying for looks. If im spending that much. It better sound good. Now I will wait in hopes of a firmware update or fix.
@nickthequick Жыл бұрын
I use a pair of Devialet Phantom II as loudspeakers for my TV but I got curious and went into my local Devialet shop and had a direct comparison with the Dionne and the Phantoms. I listened less than 10 seconds and I had no doubt that I would just stick to my Phantoms ...
@MFHRaptor Жыл бұрын
I, on the other hand, went to a local B&O to test their new Beosound Theatre (which is more than a multichannel Atmos soundbar as it's also acts as a receiver). The sound was big and impressive alright though I couldn't discern hight channels. I hope to find comparison between it and those heavy weights (Sennheiser Ambeo, Devialet Dione, etc).
@LostTravellers11 ай бұрын
Since I have doubts between buying the Dione or 2 Phantoms (stereo only than), may I ask you why you choose the Phantoms over the Dione?
@thillyard12 жыл бұрын
Very interesting review and thanks again for such a balanced and unbiased review. As I thought about this soundbar it somewhat baffles me that this is the end result. I’m sure they are using some high end drivers and parts and materials. But it’s as if they didn’t measure it and think about the purpose of a soundbar. Dialogue is just so important and if their focus was so much on bass you would think they would have gone the route of a deprecate 8-12” subwoofer. It also makes me wonder how a loudspeaker designer comes up with these measurements with no ability to tweak the frequency response. Ah well thanks again.
@Albinoni72 жыл бұрын
I'm living in Perth, Western Australia and have been looking for a sound bar for my small home theatre, preferably Dolby Atmos. I've been eyeing the Samsung/Harmon Kardon for a while now and have read so many good reviews on them too. This is the one with the 2 side satellite speakers. I had a listen to the Devialet in a show room here last Friday, sounded very good, don't get me wrong, but I cannot justifying paying AU $4000 for a soundbar, the Samsung is way cheaper around $1300
@rahulvenugopal16722 жыл бұрын
Impressive how good sound bars are getting. A few years ago I would never have considered one. I probably still wouldn’t, but I’m always curious..
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
This bar can impress, but it can also disappoint, it all depends on the performance you hope to achieve.
@Dmu_girl-20082 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. I can see how initially strong bass would capture people but I definitely wouldn’t want to miss detail because of it. My sonos still makes me jump when it does the properly rumbly bass so I’ve not been tempted to get a sub so I imagine this soundbar would be a shock to me initially I’d definitely want to watch Jurassic park movies on it as I still remember being shocked in the cinema as a kid because we were seated close to the speakers 😂
@erictheblue72562 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your review, as you truly called it as you heard it. Very refreshing compared to some other reviewers who love everything they hear. Further, you and Kristy deserve credit for not only honestly criticizing the product, but offering viable solutions for the problems.
@frankiearrevalo54942 жыл бұрын
Good day to all. For me, I have the Senheiser Ambeo with dual SVS PC 4000s... lets just say the sound is amazing. We live in a residential neighborhood where my the bass from Amber and SVS can be "felt" on my neighbors walls. This is my honest opinion and we all have differnt sound preferences.
@mustangfred20062 жыл бұрын
Sometimes bass is best when its barely noticeable. When it rolls in and out on a drama your watching and just adds a nice compliment to the soundtrack.
@31cify2 жыл бұрын
Excellent piece of input there Warren. There is, at times, too much emphasis on bass. What about those beautiful crisp highs that audiophiles crave? The midrange needs it's breathing space too. We can't have a situation were bass becomes the most desired frequency.
@thomasl.nairac81702 жыл бұрын
Finally ! I was looking forward this video. But, I'm very disappointed... I expected much better from Devialet. Anyway, really good video has usual ! Take care
@christophet.35782 жыл бұрын
Good video guys ! Thx. Bass, bass.... In the eighties (or around) the loudness or bass booster mode came around on the boom boxes, soon after on the receiver, car stereos.... A decade later the music started to be mixed that way. These days it's hard to find an artist of the top 100s who's sound is not over compressed to satisfy a public listening to it mostly on ear phones from a cell phone via a cheap streaming service... Sound engineering is lacking the creativity we could see 30 or 40 years ago, when it was at its peak, or at its best for trying to refine and deliver the best sound possible... I'm not only finger pointing at the artists, they are not always the culprits. When time get spend in creation, the sound can be here, lately i think that I've seen that passion in Billy Eilish and her brother, they usually release a finish product that has a lot of work behind, from creation to recording, to mix, to release to performance... I'm not surprised that a sound bar is joining that wave.. I should listen to it to have a real personal opinion but I'm quite sure that I would meet you at the end with your conclusion. No Bass is not the only answer ! It should be able to produce a good deal of it, but it should also be able to put it aside...
@thanawitsagulthang64712 жыл бұрын
If Andrew, someone who is more forgiving in the comment when the frequency response of a speaker is not linear, says it is too bassy it definitely is.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
I mean, you're not wrong. :)
@Scott-DJ Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most curious videos I have run across on KZfaq. Everyone raves about this bar so maybe it's just your room that doesn't like? I personally love the fact there's no tone controls to muck things up and probably why for my all analog current home system I like DSD format best!
@hulsterhulster5363 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, thanks for your great and honest review. I first found it a bit strange you are the only one complaining about that box. But everything you are telling has background. I guess one issue here is most people are only testing the Atmos piece, which seems as well for you to be great. But what you did is important. Means checking other stuff then Dolby Atmos. Because in most cases, except watching 4K disks you get just DD. And the Dione scales ("Space") it up somehow. And there seems to be the major issue. One thing, according to your tweaking tips, that could help would be, to choose behaviour on the incoming signal type and not only the input. Because the Dione has no remote, and do not know the Phantom remote could change these settings. So I would not like to change settings on everything I watch by an app. At least it should allow to tweak the bass level, as all other AV Amps do. Even on my Yamaha AV or my actual Denon with room correction I needed to tweak it a bit. Still I am very keen on the Dione. Because I am tired of more and more speaker and big and bigger AV amplifiers. I don't need to show off, I just like to listen. My Home Cinema is in my living room and it still should be a nice living room and not a Home Cinema. So the Dione makes sense at all for some people. I hope Devialet will make this working. Regarding your question - for me bass is very important, but it is more the effect channel signals I am keen on. For everything else I prefer balanced sound. One idea - it doesn't look like, but maybe especially your room is for some reason something special the room correction has issues with. Just as the reason why it is a bit different for you as for many other reviewers. But at least it proofs in some cases you need more options to correct. Further it would help to see the results of the room correction, which may help to find issues. If some distance and level would look totally unrealistic/strange it could be indicator something going wrong for some reason. If I get a chance I would still try to test it....
@kingkobra19562 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. When manufacturers allow an exorbitant amount of time to not allow their products to be reviewed there is usually something amiss and they are aware that their product is going to get slammed. I am not a proponent of all in one soundbars because logically how can a all in solution be perfect. The Dione is obviously still a major work in progress. Thanks for reviewing this soundbar because I had been patiently waiting for it because of the hype that had been surrounding it. I'm not in to hype because it is meaningless because it is pushed by the manufacturer to draw interest for their products. It's reviewers like you that get the truth out there for the consumer. As always, well done.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective. What we see happening more and more is an increase in retailers having their own KZfaq channels, where they come out with "reviews" of the products they sell. To me, that's a conflict of interest. In a time when supply shortages are what they are and review samples being so difficult to come by, I think you start seeing a lot of positive reviews lead by retailers and not actual review channels.
@kingkobra19562 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright This is true. I never believe what a manufacturer claims because they are in the business to make money and are willing to do whatever it takes to make that happen.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
@@kingkobra1956 To be clear, I am _not_ talking about the manufacturer. I'm specifically talking about retail stores that sell a variety of products realizing the impact that a KZfaq channel can have on sales, creating content being labeled as a review.
@kingkobra19562 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright Yes, I've been aware of that with ABT, Audio Advice, Crutchfield, and others which I have pointed out in the pass. They are only advertising the products they sell and not performing a review. Thanks for your good work and continued success.
@MatthewMcGowan2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting out an honest, if disappointed, review. I can appreciate the fine balance you must have to strike between maintaining good relationships with OEMs and being truthful with your audience. One of the many reasons this is my favourite channel on KZfaq. All the best!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your understanding but we ALWAYS put you, the viewer, FIRST! Thanks for watching Matthew!
@SeanVedell2 жыл бұрын
When you are both more excited about the packaging than the actual bar then that about says it all. Glad I bought a Samsung Q950A.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
You chose wisely.
@SeanVedell2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews if I hadn’t I would buy the Ambeo for the sale price today. Damn. Too late now.
@jenslindhburman46538 ай бұрын
This review is very spot on with my own experience. I played around a bit with an EQ and my changes had the opposite slope from the ones Dione puts out, when I was finished it sounded quite good. Contacted Devialet and asked if they had any plans to include an EQ in an update, the answer was no plans. Very sad because as you say the bar has big potential and they solved what should be the biggest problem, too bad they messed up the top end.
@garyfain72352 жыл бұрын
Ouch! You guys rock. Thank you for the honest review. Kristi made me smile
@AlanBCDang2 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to something like a Sonos Arc?
@Cross2912 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review as always Andrew and Kristi! I was just about to pull the trigger on one, I’ll admit I was floored by the Atmos performance when sampling it but perhaps spent too short a time with it! 😅
@Darrylizer12 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait, 950 watts?! In a soundbar?! Damn. Edit: I'm with Kristi, tone controls have been eschewed for years by the higher end companies as adding "distortion" but I love them. Depending on the recording or the room, tone controls are a must for me. I'm not necessarily interested in hearing what the mix engineer or more importantly the mastering engineer thought was correct. My room and my tastes vary and tho I use tone controls sparingly for the most part, sometimes I need them big time. I especially love variable loudness controls as was common on older equipment like my Pilot or McIntosh preamps. It's really cool!
@oliverpolden20 күн бұрын
There’s a difference between frequency response and frequency amplitude. We all want the response, but don’t necessarily want too much amplitude at the low end.
@doc666ify2 жыл бұрын
Bass is a essential in any home theater set up but if you have no way of dialing it in to your desired listing preference its a definite NO NO for me.
@vincentseidle9542 жыл бұрын
Especially at that price point, you'd think that's something you can control
@Jpperera119 күн бұрын
I purchased both Devialet Dione, as well as Sennheiser Ambeo just because of this video. I listened to both of them for a several days and ended up keeping the Dione. It is the better speaker. The Ambeo was able to go louder but it sucked because it just does not have the bass to compliment it. The Ambeo also has the worst connectivity, and you need to jump through hoops to connect a bass. Also, the look of the Dione is the perfect cherry on top. Honestly, I knew it was the Dione the moment I played it side-by-side, but I really wanted to give the Ambeo a fair shot because of this guy talking so highly of it. At the end Dione was too good to let go.
@DavidLeiser882 жыл бұрын
Owning two Phantoms and really loving them for their clarity in sound, i listened to the Dione in a small Devialet Shop in Paris and i was really disappointed with the performance. I mean yes, it has good base but sound clarity wise i was not impressed and it sounded pretty flat overall.. Going to skip on that one, or may give it another test in another store. I hope they send you a Pair of Gold Phantoms to test out, would really love to hear your thoughts about them :)
@andrewforsythe72402 жыл бұрын
I am beginning to think some Brands think people will buy their product because of past success and Name. I like bass but not at the expense of the rest of the spectrum. Yes, I believe voicing is becoming more bass heavy, especially for Home Theatre. Nice comprehensive review, thank you and Kristi.
@Halbmond Жыл бұрын
This is too bad because this soundbar looks gorgeous!
@ahmadhusaini8420 Жыл бұрын
That's so weird. Yesterday I went to KLIAV, an audio show. I've heard this. And heck they are good. Not sure if Devialet fixed it
@sachafievet31312 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you review cheaper sub 500, sub 300 etc. Soundbars and other products in different categories. Ofc I'm selfishly looking for a cheaper option as a student at the moment but i think that cheaper soundbars and equipment in general is as interesting as high end equipment. Love your content either way though, your format is amazing!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Kristi answered your question from the livestream in the comments here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5qaoLlor7CronU.html Sorry we missed it!
@chrischan19262 жыл бұрын
And I thought it was just me. When I listened to it back when the prototype was out. I didn't really appreciate it. It's completely different from the Phantom. In terms of pricing, I would choose Sennheiser Ambeo or even the old B&W Panorama would be a lot better than the Dione.
@sammy10001 Жыл бұрын
This dione curve looks similar to a +6 or +8 harman curve, which I thought is based on psychoacoustic studies on what sounds good to the human ear. I EQ my 20 to 20khz that way anyways. I don't see it as a negative.
@degou3438 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. This is the only review of his that I completely disagree with.
@sdemosi2 жыл бұрын
There is a software update coming, based on another review I read. It will make it able to play louder 😁 It's 950 W RMS after all and 101dB at 1m is just not loud enough for devialet fans. Wonder what the bass sounds like over 101dB.
@movie_av_impulse2 жыл бұрын
I'M ABOUT THAT BASS! MY Skar in my car is running at 1,400 watts at 1ohm and it's still not enough
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Well if you're all 'bout that bass my friend, this is likely THE ONLY soundbar you should consider, because it has BASS (just not much else). Appreciate you tuning in as always!
@ben23a312 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys for another superb review. How disappointing tho the performance didn't live up to the hype overall. Another sound bar bites the dust 😒
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I think if they can come out with a update, they could really improve performance
@ben23a312 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews agreed 👍🏽
@VeerMaharaj2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people want room proof bass. Bass that can be enjoyed in any room and environment. Devialet's speakers are known for dropping the bass hard and low in any environment, and i think this speaker follows that same motto. It can be super irritating to put in a 12" massive sub and hear no bass in a room. This is the same reason why a lot of my friends love their Bose HT systems. The bass from those systems, despite the lack of mids and highs, is monstrous and kicks like a mule, with minimal effort when placing the speakers. And everything else is good enough. When recommending HT systems to people, I always push for a soundbar and a wireless sub, just so you have easier placement options for the sub and in the end more value for your money. I have a cheap samsung soundbar and sub mounted on a tv cart in my bedroom and another system, a projector, two infinity 12" subs and stereo bookshelves, and the bass on the samsung sub with no thought to placement has way more satisfying bass than the dual Infinity subs. (i need to find a wireless sub system that works for dual subs)
@stucorbishley2 жыл бұрын
I’m just stunned something in this package has a crazy amount of bass..
@sazzowl_gaming8203 Жыл бұрын
Look at the Nubert "Nupro XS 8500 RC" Less focused on atmos content with the option to upgrade later for real atmos but with much better music performance
@JayDpwnz2 жыл бұрын
Hmm do you think a room with a lot of carpet / if the bar was wall mounted could tame the bass?
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
It might help but it won't correct the other things that are wrong with the bar.
@treyphillips60132 жыл бұрын
Ambeo still the king!!!
@jonathanbarnes76414 сағат бұрын
Does the Ambeo Max sound better than this soundbar in your opinion overall?
@mecytator2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I did end up with Ambeo, after seriously considering Dione but lack of codecs and connections scared me away. (and now this bass thing) I am glad Sennheiser did not have this big backlog of hi end expertise and just produced fantastic soundbar just as of today needs:)
@DigitalPhilosophers2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you both. I enjoy and highly appreciate your informative honesty ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chewingcheung2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ☺️!!!
@chewingcheung2 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright Like a good amp paired with awesome speakers, Andrew and you work so well together. The dynamic range is off the charts :) Love this channel and content. Big fan!
@chawonytube2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I feel your pain. I had good experience with their Phantom speakers... Yeah! Their bass can be the main appeal...
@eastman40 Жыл бұрын
No remote in the box. No HDMI pass through via extra ports, That’s it for me as for the price you pay the company failed to deliver on couple of things to make it more valuable.
@joecorona52272 жыл бұрын
Did you test it in a wall mount application? I was wondering if the base dispersement going North and South and the dual mids on each side facing forward would alter the soundstage in any way?
@joaquinrubio32302 жыл бұрын
I have kliptch sound bar and I love it and it's not bass heavy I got for good sound thanks for review good work 👍
@maxpower78-152 жыл бұрын
Im kinda out of the soundbar game, but it is cool to hear about one with real bass
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
That's about all it has going for it IMHO. Well, bass and build quality.
@maxpower78-152 жыл бұрын
I must finish the other half of this review after work. .. dang
@leroyjenkins96232 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video I love your soundbar reviews. Can't wait till the next one. "Cough" LG's new flagship S95QR "Cough"
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
We are probably going to have to buy that one ourselves. LG is not an easy brand to deal with at the moment.
@thobekanikhoza40382 жыл бұрын
This thing is beautifully looking indeed Kristy, I'm still jaw dropped that it extends up to the 24HDZ???
@Turtleback80242 жыл бұрын
💯 Got me scratching my head a little bit. My Polk Audio S55’s can dig to 32Hz, and I thought that was impressive!🤓 24Hz is subwoofer territory. Even my Polk Audio HTS 12 sub cannot match that, as it goes down to 28hz.😄
@BruceyEmpire2 жыл бұрын
Actually thinking about it, a few years ago I tried the sky soundbox (I live in the uk and sky tv released their own “soundbox”). It was a partnership between sky and…. you guessed it, Devialet. I instantly returned it due to being far too bass heavy just as Andrew states about the Dione. Coincidence? Maybe devialet just doesn’t ‘get’ the consumer needs when it comes to home theatre.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
I actually think Devialet absolutely understand the consumer. Talk to most home theater enthusiasts and you are more likely to hear stories of their "epic bass" more than anything else. This is no doubt one of the reasons why whenever we review a speaker people always ask "yeah, but is it good for music?". I believe when it comes to home theater, enthusiasts are looking for bass and treating their speakers like blunt instruments. So a bass heavy anything is likely in line with Devialet's customer research.
@BruceyEmpire2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I never thought of it like that and now you explain it in that way, it does make sense why they emphasise bass. Although it’s still frustrating. The Dione could have been a genuine rival to the ambeo had they got it right.
@robneverdon2 жыл бұрын
Good morning Andrew and Miss Kristi. Can I make a suggestion for another soundbar for your review that I have looked into for a few years now from the company CREATIVE it's called the X-Fi Sonic Carrier, I know that you two have quite a few things to do for your reviews on but I am really wanted to hear what you think about this product?
@delarageaz2 жыл бұрын
everytime i've listened to devialet's phantom i found the bass to be impressive but the highs to be extremely metallic and artificial, sometimes making good quality music sounds like old MP3s. Not a fan. I've seen (and very quickly heard) that sound bar in store but i'm not interested in a sound bar so i don't really have an opinion. Thank you so much for your real honest review !
@rotaks12 жыл бұрын
Terrific honest review! Thanks.
@garybrewer9059 Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard all the bars suggested. Dione came out on top.don’t know what these guys are talking about .are they getting kickbacks from the other manufacturers ? Plenty of reviews from others stating it is just about the best out there . Ambeo being it’s most equal .
@hulsterhulster5363 Жыл бұрын
You are right. But it is about question of circumstances. I realized the same as you. But to me it seems most tested just Atmos. And for that Andrew has stated it is fine as well. Fact is - for me the Dione has a big issue. It does not allow you to do any correction despite their general profiles they offer. Rooms could be complex/complicate from a sound perspective. Especially as the Dione measures room correction with build-in micros, it could have issue at the position where you listen, which the room correction does not notice. Further I see a little issue with the "upscale" from normal DD, fairly for the same reason, as there is no option to ammend. I am pretty sure it will work in a lot of cases. But i.e. my room is 9m long. The listening position is across. One wall is 2m away, the other with big windows is 7m away. My Denon AV room correction has no issues with it. But it measues with external Micro at the listening position. And I have an external sub. So for Dione there is even one more issue. Some low frequency issues you can avoid moving the sub around, which you can't with the Dione. To be honest - I really do not understand why they do not offer more options here. Customer who like it easy still can take it easy. Offering options does not mean you have to use them. And you can hide them in app. Have a look at the new Sennheiser Ambeo Plus (SB02). I would prefer the Dione, as I like the idea to get a real good sub out of the soundbar itself. But to me currently the risk seems to be too high.
@bondsonmic9062 Жыл бұрын
I have tried all brands of sound bars at AV shop,Dione was really apparently the best out of those, especially in the differentiation of sounds and I think the bass is comparatively weak as it doesn’t have a subwoofer, I don’t know why the review say the bass overshadow other sounds
@joekool5676 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent and nuanced and detailed critique. So well done!
@richard_red_642 жыл бұрын
2k for a sound bar? YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!
@JayDpwnz2 жыл бұрын
You should take a look at what a AV reciever + 3.1.2 speaker set up will cost you. All in one soundbars are a trade off for convenience against sound quality. It is not a trade off on price.
@vincentseidle9542 жыл бұрын
You can get a home theater set up that is really good for less than 2k, I picked up the fluance series floor standing speakers and center for just under 1k, yamaha reviever for 400, bic audio sub for 200 and all misc wiring under 100. But it depends on how much space you have. Some people may be forced into a sound bar
@BigSharkFreak2 жыл бұрын
Great review, guys. Disappointing performance from Devialet here, and inconsistent with my Phantom I and IIs. Agree with the lack of control, but perhaps using Roon to adjust would have been an option (not a great option for 99% of buyers though).
@nicholashennessy67402 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual. Untapped Potential is what I think of when encountering this bar.
@CBaskins4202 жыл бұрын
Yeah if it had a remote it basically solve all of these issues. I'm not fond of apps like the one that comes with my LG sound bar but at least it has a remote so I can control base and presets. Big bass is a plus
@bcrerste2 жыл бұрын
Andrew, which do you think will be a better setup: B&O Stage or a BOSE 900 with a bass module 700? Which of this solution has the best theatre experience in movies? THANK YOU!
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
The comparison to the Stage is made in this review. Re: the Bose 900 - I would go this route over the Dione at this point.
@CarlosGonzalez-zm8bh Жыл бұрын
Have you changed your opinion on this Sound Barr since you published this video? Have they done any firmware update since then? Thanks!
@andrewrobinsonreviews Жыл бұрын
We sent it back to Devialet following the review.
@CarlosGonzalez-zm8bh Жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews But that was 1 year ago... Have you had the chance to revisit this matter after the firmware updates?
@davidthanos2 жыл бұрын
For sure it needs an update. But for that price point you might as well get the hta9 and the sub. Makes me believe that no one in these companies don't do a sound check before the product goes out Can't wait until you guys get the LG 95qr
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
As long as its the SW5 sub I 100% agree.
@davidthanos2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews for sure
@chemicallust772 жыл бұрын
Despite the technological advances and improved sound, I've never been able to take a soundbar seriously as home theater sound solution...maybe I'm just biased and slightly spoiled with big sound home theater...and stereo listening
@andrewz9252 жыл бұрын
Sound bars are great as a replacement for TV speakers to get some better sound, but a dedicated set of speakers and an amp or a high end powered two channel system is definitely necessary for the best performance.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewz925 The AMBEO and HT-A9 with SW5 would surprise most people if they gave them a chance.
@andrewz9252 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright I would love to try the Ambeo, I'm a Sennheiser guy for headphones, but haven't tried their other products.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewz925 It's very impressive (and currently on sale - see my comment below for the link). If they could improve upon the looks of the bar, they'd have magic on their hands.
@ericlozen96312 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like a dedicated crapoy subwoofer. Thank's for the review.
@sombathado2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this for a long time , thank u so much. Seems like bose 900 with bass module better ?
@lonniefarmer70672 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew and Kristi! I love GOOD bass but have my twin REL HT1508's at 1/4 output as that fills out the room, without bad vibes (The great room harmonic is 58hz). Too much is just annoying but Boom Boxes are starting to come back... sigh.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
I loved my boom box from back in the day but even it had EQ / tone controls. 🤷♀️
@lonniefarmer70672 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright Point indeed!
@RobertJones-rd5wl2 жыл бұрын
Thanx for another informative review! Would be very interesting if you could review their flagship music Phantom speakers in stereo pair.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
We asked for both products initially but were only sent the soundbar.
@RobertJones-rd5wl2 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright Ah, ok. Let’s hope they are brave and honest enough to still send it to you after this somehow ‘negative’ review of their soundbar😀 Thank you for swift replay. I really like the way you interact with us, your viewers. Great channel!
@raphaelmeillat85272 жыл бұрын
Wow! Was not expecting this! Tried the Dione twice in two different environments and didn't find the bass was overpowering everything else. No doubt it delivered the best bass I've ever heard from a soundbar, quite deep and clean bass I might add. But I also enjoyed listening to pop music. Enjoyed movie demos as well. Having said all this, I have not tried it on an entire movie or various music types. But what I heard made me want to put it at the top of my shopping list for a bedroom setup.
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
Just curious - do you own this bar? When you say you tried it twice in two different environments, do you mean at home or...? Thanks for watching!
@raphaelmeillat85272 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright hey Kristi! Nope, not at home. In two different Devialet stores in Paris. Mid-size and large size room. WiFi and Bluetooth for music demo. And 4K files for movie demos. Enjoyed the music I tried on it. But like I said, I don't know for instance how it handles classical music (don't think it's a good fit to be truthful). But midrange like male or female vocals came out quite clear. Still prefer the Ambeo for atmos effects and sound spatialization in general. More immersive for movies. But for music, I preferred the Dione
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
@@raphaelmeillat8527 Thanks for clarifying! While I didn't have any trouble with clarity, I found the vocals (actor/singers) to sound unnatural with a megaphone effect at times.
@raphaelmeillat85272 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright lol. Hoping that wasn't Devialet's intention! That's the difference between trying it out in store for 15 mins on bits and pieces... And living with it for a while! Ironically enough, after I tried it, I figured both of you would love it! So much for human instinct!!! Hopefully like you said, it can be tweaked through firmware and app EQ updates... 🤞
@KristiWright2 жыл бұрын
@@raphaelmeillat8527 It definitely makes a difference when you are able to live with a product :). I'd say within the first 5 minutes or so we were also very impressed. The bass is so powerful that it kind of steals the show for a minute. Once you get passed that initial wow phase, you hear what's missing.
@murrieteacher2 жыл бұрын
I need to be able to control my bass. Great video.
@SuryaPrakash-dw2cc2 жыл бұрын
Waited for this review and now Dione stricken out. Now confused between B&O stage and Ambeo.. can you please suggest, my listing is more music and less movies.
@chewingcheung2 жыл бұрын
I have the JBL 5.1 Bar at the moment. Wondering if Dolby Atmos upgrade is warranted. Thank you for your opinion. Sennheiser has another point. Wondering if the upcoming Ambeo 2 is an improvement however.
@chewingcheung2 жыл бұрын
Correction it is not the Ambeo 2 but a cheaper version of the current Ambeo.
@Prerich452 жыл бұрын
Call it like you hear it!!!!👍🏾
@giuseppelussu2 жыл бұрын
Hello both, thx for the review. Do you also review some good upfiringing atmos speakers? That woud be great. Thx again 😀