Is Everyone Wrong To Hate This Bullet?

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@Gigabeef 9 күн бұрын

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@PLAYER2035 6 күн бұрын

It isn't the round, the entire 762x39 AK range recoil is complete trash this wipe.

@KKKKKKK-sr1fz 6 күн бұрын

AK one of the best systems in gun world and they made like it it shoots and kicks like a mule

@PLAYER2035 6 күн бұрын

@@KKKKKKK-sr1fz exactly. It was an overreaction by BSG after several wipes where BP was the meta to nerf the entire caliber into the ground so no one uses any of the weapons.

@KKKKKKK-sr1fz 6 күн бұрын

@@PLAYER2035 but how and why this AR shoots so accurate even in low stats it’s just unfair man AR way too accurate and deadly

@sulkissulking 6 күн бұрын

@@KKKKKKK-sr1fz because AR's function exactly like that. it's not unfair at all lmao. 5.56 in this game sucks stat wise, they're just laser beams as a saving grace.

@KKKKKKK-sr1fz 6 күн бұрын

@@sulkissulking yes but now laser beams have more advantage then PEN AMMO 762

@Lu_Kitsuray 6 күн бұрын

In my opinion, the main issue of BP is not it necessarily being bad but that legit better ammo for better weapon is easier available.

@Chevalier_knight 6 күн бұрын

You can craft it i have 4k rounds

@jacobchansy8627 5 күн бұрын

@@Chevalier_knight that's whole deal man, you can craft it. But it takes like 6 hours to complete, and you only get 90. Where as you can get 762x39 m62 more easily. All you do is wait 2 hours for a reset

@justinanker1291 5 күн бұрын

But m62 is for 7,62x51, not for x39@@jacobchansy8627

@deesixbee 6 күн бұрын

Id say the main issues with BP in its current state are ammo availability (Equally good rounds are available from traders, e.g.: M62, Hybrid) and the weapon platforms being rather weak with their overall low firerate and comparatively extremely high recoil… A shame, really

@void8010 6 күн бұрын

im glad people are finally talking about 7.62x39 gun nerfs... like how is a meta fully low recoil rd still in high 70s?

@Skratzy 6 күн бұрын

Is it my skill issue and positioning mistakes that led to my loss? No, the platform sucks because I can’t laser with it. True enjoyers make their guns look cool 😎

@cardboard_shaft 6 күн бұрын

realistic looking tarkov builds>

@veryfunnyname7060 5 күн бұрын

I think it's often overstated how "bad" the recoil of mutants and RDs is, you can still full-auto people at a decent range, but it is definitely a lot higher than that of comparable guns in other calibers, like the sa58, mdr or spear, so if the ammo is roughly as effective as that of those other options (which it is, as you said in the video), there's no "real" reason to use them besides visuals (and to be fair, modded RDs do look really good)

@wishuhadmyname 4 күн бұрын

Having fired a friend's Rifle Dynamics SBR, it looks and feels even cooler in person. He had it silenced with an adjustable gas piston and it was so smooth as well. Fantastic gun, which it should be for the over $3k he's put into it

@milkycannon444 Күн бұрын

well 7.62 mdr and spear cant use drums so there is more reason to use something like an RD, i feel like i get in a lot of fights in tarkov where volume is beating precision. Guess sa can use drums too but it doesnt feel as good to me as an RD but its preference ig.

@OTOss8 6 күн бұрын

I don't know how you do it but you're always there reading my mind and answering questions I have before I even really realize I have them. You're the best Giga. The best!!

@shreyrathi7182 5 күн бұрын

I got all 15 assessment kills with a mutant using PP in this tank armor phase. So I’m pretty happy with it.

@_Scipio 6 күн бұрын

Even before the dumbed down armor system with forcefield armor, it wasn't that BP was bad, but the 7.62x39 caliber guns were worse than other options available.

@Omni_Actual 5 күн бұрын

How in the hell did you survive that grenade!?! haha that was amazing

@impact6126 6 күн бұрын

6:20 no shot that guy just gave you the highground like that

@Elvy3358 6 күн бұрын

I tested PP and BP myself and BP does very little increased damage vs lvl 5 plates, PP is also good imo.

@kinsgaming8197 5 күн бұрын

every time i run PP im let down MASSIVELY I would legit rather run PS out of my gun than struggle to make PP work and yes i totally agree that makes zero sense

@bandsbando6660 3 күн бұрын

@@kinsgaming8197i use pp and it works honestly i use the akmn its really good in my opinion but the rd is the best

@draksis4591 6 күн бұрын

absolutely love these break downs of the stats - perfect condensed info videos! 😍😎

@LoneWolf20213 4 күн бұрын

The great thing about tarkov that sets it apart from other games like it is the fact you can have literary nothing and still use what you find to take down even bosses or end game players it's rage and joy to it's extremes really

@WNxKorsakoff 6 күн бұрын

I wish there were more videos like this for more bullet types. Like 545 and then what the ups and downs are maybe show meta builds etc. I love watching the videos where you rescue a weapon from another PMC and rebuild it for that reason. (ps Im an eft noob who has a small idea what they are doing when modding weapons).

@ChristopherG 4 күн бұрын

Just wanted to say, that you became my favorite eft youtuber over the past years. Love your videos.

@Gigabeef 4 күн бұрын

Appreciate it!

@crstalli 4 күн бұрын

Question: can you explain the mergodology that you made to create the class 5 shot 2 kills 45% of the time, and shot 3 87 percent of the time? Is that the average across all material types or across the various carriers? Different material types would skew it, and while it might not impsct the numbers a whole lot for bp, it would for other ammo you may make a video about

@crstalli 4 күн бұрын

Also, Aramid plates don't exist, right?

@Gigabeef 4 күн бұрын

I used tarkov gunsmith, gac plates, cult termite plates and the ars arms cpc soft armor to calc it, as those plates are the most common for their class. Yeah no aramid plates, uhmwpe is the best you can do

@crstalli 4 күн бұрын

@@Gigabeef lol I know most people only care about the single number, but some care more. Wondering if there's a way to clarify the backing methodologies for those real numbers people like.... Church :D

@Gigabeef 4 күн бұрын

@@crstalli My thoughts were there's a whole different video about plates and their effectiveness within the same class, and if people really want to they can go and look themselves at the data from the website, cant remember if i put a link in this one though

@JS0N.24 6 күн бұрын

I feel that it's not as much of a people think it's bad, its just more of you can buy m62 tracer and sig hybrid but have to craft bp, secondly i feel like most guns in the 7.62x39mm caliber like the mutant especially have been nerfed too harshly with their recoil since it was meta a few wipes back

@jnicholaswildcat 5 күн бұрын

7.62 BP isn’t terrible, but in the realm of pen, I think it’s not quite as good as people would like it to be, like SIG hybrid, the major difference between the two being velocity which is generally why hybrid is so popular in my opinion, it’s great for head taps at range because it shoot’s relatively flat and easier to land shots on moving targets because you don’t have to lead as much, and the higher fire rate of the spear slightly makes up for the lack of pen when you’re hitting center mass shots, 7.62 weapons generally have a slower rate of fire and as such generally don’t perform as well in CQB because while you may have a competitive round, sheer damage output of other rounds can outpace yours, in the end it can come down to your personal preference and general skill in the fight if your hood at head tapping, please consider that this is my opinion and not entirely true to reality, people can still absolutely run circles around other players 7.62 platforms with enough practice, but my personal experience is my own, and not applicable to every player

@tillercaesar-kq4ou 5 күн бұрын

Ohh I just got to prapor 4 and excitedly bought a bunch of ammo

@chakalaka6323 6 күн бұрын

I dunno i had 16 hit count with M62 Tracer yesterday and got 2 tapped with CBJ so the armor system is in a weird spot

@TrevarThePastor 5 күн бұрын

Pretty crazy to me that you can easily buy 7.62x51 m62/m80 and Sig Hybrid but can’t buy BP when the guns for 7.62x39 are way worse. BSG made every gun feel at least okay with the new recoil then made the availability pigeon-hole everyone into using 2-3 guns at this stage in wipe. Hopefully they add 5.45 BS, M855a1, and 7.62x39 BP back to traders next wipe so we can get some variety. Crafting just ain’t it for ammo. I wouldn’t be mad at a slight RD and Mutant buff either 😅

@bandsbando6660 3 күн бұрын

facts and sig hybrid is the best ammo out rn they should’ve kept m855a1 how it was last wipe

@1999Dorito 5 күн бұрын

Its really the horizontal recoil that kills these guns

@Opachki69420 5 күн бұрын

Its because they removed recoil control tbh

@thealphatimmy5979 6 күн бұрын

I love you giga

@Mashedtaders 6 күн бұрын

Think the hit reg complaints probably stem from the 200 m/s velocity difference at distance vs NATO rounds.

@Chevalier_knight 6 күн бұрын

I would say its more the horizontal recoil making you hit limps when aiming at the upper chest, they should reduce that for all aks other then 545

@fuze3107 5 күн бұрын

I mean RPD exists and that fires kind of fast at 700 RPM and it has decent recoil and it doesn't jam but thing is heavy as hell and ergo is non existent. I kind of wish they made 7.62x39 AKs have lower recoil in general baffles me how 7.62x51 mm rifles can have half the recoil of x39mm guns but with much higher damage or rate of fire. Or idk introduce AK-203(4) or something that fires fast like the AEK-973. PS. i don't think people complaining about hit reg are too crazy after all i Dumped half a mag onto a guy with paca armour on the back from 5 meters away with BP and they turned around to kill me it could be similar to bug where PP round didn't do damage after pen that existed few months ago.

@FabianL96 5 күн бұрын

armor doesnt do much when you get shot in the neck

@alespic 6 күн бұрын

I think that “a bullet has worse hit reg” is one of the most hilarious excuses I’ve heard lmao Some people really just can’t admit they’re bad

@theinconsistentgamer1402 5 күн бұрын

Could it not be true? I have no idea how these things work so I am ignorant.

@spazbandicoot 5 күн бұрын

@@theinconsistentgamer1402 Making/utilizing a different hit registration system for each bullet would be like reinventing the wheels of the game for each one and is therefore completely nonsensical "a bullet has worse hit reg" I would assume means someone is mistaking hit registration for a slower muzzle velocity or is just unaware that muzzle velocity exists

@dangerd9315 5 күн бұрын

stop making it seem like they are wrong. 545 hit reg was shit for long time (now seems like its fixed). same shit is now happening with 762x39. stop thinking "oh if i dont have this issue it doesnt exist". you are not only one playing the game

@DeanMonio 5 күн бұрын

muzzle velocity makes a difference, those low velocity rounds can give u a feelin of "no hit registration" sometimes.

@alespic 5 күн бұрын

@@DeanMonio indeed, x39 is quite slow compared to any other rifle rounds, and being AP it slows down even more, but not to a point of being subsonic.

@CellTank 5 күн бұрын

Top tier content, does this man produce anything else though?

@TypicalDad1980 5 күн бұрын

They got BEEF’D!!!

@blackm4niac 5 күн бұрын

I hate 762 BP because it gives me bad luck. There have been alot of times, even when the round was meta, where I decided to use it and then just get tarkoved.

@kinsgaming8197 5 күн бұрын

I havent tried BP but i have tried PP and the amount of headshots/entire mags people have shrugged off only to see 16+ hit count guess im bad..... ive had more success running PS every time i think yeah that shot hit it did PP on the other hand ABSOLUTELY feels like it has hit detection problems i put my scope on a dudes head who was standing completely still and watched him eat 3 clean headshots then eat 2-5 more as he ran away i was straight up blown away how bad that round felt this wipe

@raVen89x 5 күн бұрын

i think the real problem is the nerf of the pps

@clatham1021 5 күн бұрын

svt/avt works well with 54R bt agasint the new factory quest

@godskitten49 5 күн бұрын

7.62x39 is just not competitive this wipe. I mean, I'm pretty sure black MDR has lower recoil than 7.62x39 ak builds of the same price point, which is ridiculous.

@gavinray9493 6 күн бұрын

Al Gore Rythm

@RAIZE387 6 күн бұрын

its also not really working against the glass on labs

@staticx2552 6 күн бұрын

Idk caliber seems to do just fine for me , maybe ill motice a difference once i start moving to m80 and m62

@Chevalier_knight 6 күн бұрын

M80 and m62 are fundamentally the same when it comes to pen you have to hit the head vs lvl 5 and 6 as m80/62 just dont pen lvl 5

@brayan9085 6 күн бұрын

BRo the Back flip on the last kill FUCK dat shit KILL ME

@Chevalier_knight 6 күн бұрын

Its not that bp is bad its that guns that use bp have incredibly bad horizontal recoil worse then all other guns they need a buf

@SteveHarvey272 6 күн бұрын

i like it because running an mdr every raid gets really boring

@greenaceman5351 6 күн бұрын

I got some BP off a cultist and almost lost to a dude using class 3 plates in a trooper. It still won't pen for me

@j0hnicide 6 күн бұрын

shitty aim

@BlinchixOfRivia 6 күн бұрын

Sig Hybrid and M62 are also 5 shots against class 6, but have a massive rate of fire advantage and way better recoil, while being purchasable from traders. You've completely missed the reason why people hate 7.62x39

@ainumahtar 5 күн бұрын

Pretty sure he is just trying to make the argument the /bullet/ does not deserve the hate, not to mention the fact that so many people think everything that is not straight meta is completely unusable, while that is just straight up not true. If I rip vector your legs off you're dead whether you have class 6 and a spear or not.

@BlinchixOfRivia 5 күн бұрын

@@ainumahtar it deserves the hate. There's no point in using it right now with class 6 being so available

@Arclightning 6 күн бұрын

The guns that use7.62x39mm this wipe are just inferior.

@noirnit. 6 күн бұрын

5 shots to kill a person out of a gun that shoots 650 rpm tarkov copium

@user-qw3ny5bj7d 6 күн бұрын

IF you hit ALL of the shots in the same hitbox back to back. Wich is true only for ideal testing scenario.

@Gigabeef 6 күн бұрын

Mdr is the same so it's not just rpm

@noirnit. 5 күн бұрын

@@Gigabeef m80 is worse than bp so idk why people are hating on the gun. its legit the same thing with less ergo. Just use what you have but calling it bad is ridiculous.

@noirnit. 5 күн бұрын

yea same with every other gun. 7.62 bp is better than m80 and pp is the same. People say 7.62 is bad but its legit the same thing at 7.62 nato lmao.

@noirnit. 5 күн бұрын

@@user-qw3ny5bj7d like the argument is that 7.62 x 39 has better mag size.

@bodaciouschad 6 күн бұрын

Im impressed how intuitively you knew to long jump preaim and fire at the first guy in that squad and how you reasoned it was a three man and not a 4 or 5 man with rats using rational deduction. Clearly just a better breed of gamer.

@theinconsistentgamer1402 5 күн бұрын

Why not just say it with your chest? Lol.

@veryfunnyname7060 5 күн бұрын

if you think he's cheating just say so, but FWIW that is like the least sus play ever, you clearly heard the guy running around below him in the video, so that was the only spot he possibly could've been in, no ESP needed lol

@Gigabeef 5 күн бұрын

If you really think I'm cheating then I have no idea what to say haha. This was one of the best fights of the last 2 weeks - 3x PMC is pretty rare for me tbh

@rinaldoman3331 6 күн бұрын

I thought people drop 7.62x39mm guns because new horizontal recoil made all of these AK style rifles unplayable against lowrecoil MDR, M4A1 and AK-74 - you just miss half of your bullets shooting 50m target.

@Chevalier_knight 6 күн бұрын

Thats 100% why, i use it for ratting tho good round at cqc

@Jake-bt3fc 5 күн бұрын

Yeah, the meta mutant is a terrible gun now.

@rinaldoman3331 5 күн бұрын

@@Jake-bt3fc meta AKM is absoiute garbage worse than stock AK-74

@Jake-bt3fc 5 күн бұрын

@@rinaldoman3331 I honestly can’t think of a usable 7.62x39 gun other than the sks which is hilarious because that’s supposed to be the beginner early wipe gun.

@rinaldoman3331 5 күн бұрын

@@Jake-bt3fc agree. SKS in UAS chassis is like nerf gun - no recoil at all. It kicks less than AR-15 in semi-auto. Wtf actually...

@osiedlakhaze9519 6 күн бұрын

rd slapsss

@fernandoferraz3527 6 күн бұрын

Annnnnd we are back to meta ammo becuase of armour changes....

@ainumahtar 5 күн бұрын

Yeah it's pretty funny the shift w crowd was complaining about armor being shit before, and now they complain their ammo is not good enough xD it's never good enough

@tzav 5 күн бұрын

Most of the community just parroting what some streamers mald about. They increased the ttk per community request. They literally did what people asked. This is the result...

@chasef1077 5 күн бұрын

The mutant can’t use the 3 part muzzle break I swear I used it this wipe?

@dankbank1417 4 күн бұрын

Only for the long barrel

@kirisameM 6 күн бұрын

mutant recoil is sooo bad.... and it feels like 762 have only half bullet registered

@MrDoabarrelroll 6 күн бұрын

Low firerate, bad recoil and the real dealbreaker: Cant be bought at traders Why would anyone use this when Hybrid/M62 is waiting for you at PK LL4

@Chevalier_knight 6 күн бұрын

You can just craft it i have 2k rounds just because i craft it when using other ammo

@empathysunstrider 5 күн бұрын

@@Chevalier_knight your 2k ammo will run out after 10-15 raids lmao

@Chevalier_knight 5 күн бұрын

@@empathysunstrider its allmost like you dont have to use teh same gun for 10 to 15 raids "lmao"

@empathysunstrider 5 күн бұрын

@@Chevalier_knight its doesnt matter will you use same gun or not. Its will gone after this amont of raids

@hughjass2896 5 күн бұрын

theres nothing wrong with the round, the problem is its craft only, so no one is using it.

@zacharytranvik1197 6 күн бұрын

The guns suck not the bullet

@00TomFoolery00 6 күн бұрын

Noice

@graemepennell 6 күн бұрын

Never bothered with BP, even after 5 wipes. Keep using PS, T45M1 & PP (sure I'll buy from trader when it's up but alot if my ammo comes from looting kills.

@nooby02031 6 күн бұрын

you mean you never got to the point where you could craft it lmao, like 4 wipes ago BP got removed from traders didnt you watch the video? If you have the option to run BP you do, theres no oh ima run some PS if you have BP lying around

@graemepennell 6 күн бұрын

@@nooby02031 Did i have had the option to craft when it was active, yes, sure i completed the nade quest & others when they arrived. Did i bother to craft? nope, there is not a NEED to craft it. It was readily available on boss/guard/rogue kills. And im very much a player who uses whats available, not craft stuff because its there. There is a choice you know, not everyone needs to ultrachad themselves for the best kit. I will wager that you probably went & bought the uber version, as you have that demeanour. Clearly with your name you are very happy to be the dick, to ensure that you like to piss on others.

@graemepennell 6 күн бұрын

@@nooby02031 Your name suggests your such a pleb you enjoy making responses like you have...I'll wager you went all sweaty & bought the Uberversion, just for the Epeen..... I have made it past the Q for BP many times, yet i simply dont feel the need to use it. If its there to loot, sure ill grab it but ill not waste materials for it when i dont need to. Play the game your way & not suggest how others should play theirs.

@fragnugget 6 күн бұрын

Dunno.... I shot a scav with no armor 7 times with 7.62 bp and screenshotted it so I would remember to never use it again... can it kill? yes... so can gt.... but the rattly guns, and lack of registry make it a no go

@Very-average 6 күн бұрын

Tell me ur new without telling me ur new, *high pen rounds are bad against scavs that are not wearing armor* 💀

@Chevalier_knight 6 күн бұрын

Scavs dont have player hp they have higher health shooting to chest is bad with anny round that isnt hp vs scavs

@Very-average 5 күн бұрын

@@Chevalier_knightmore or less

@termin8ter4562 6 күн бұрын

I feel like bp is bugged because in arena you mag dump people and they just take it. Then again i feel like BP hit reg has been fucked for a couple wipes now

@Chevalier_knight 6 күн бұрын

Its not hit reg its the horizontal recoil its the highest of all guns and you hit limbs or miss aiming centre mass.

@termin8ter4562 5 күн бұрын

@@Chevalier_knight I know if im hitting my shots or not......... I got 6k hours on Tark. Thanks for the suggestion though

@Chevalier_knight 5 күн бұрын

@@termin8ter4562 you sound like a child grow up. the facts areyou can test the bloom on the mutant and all the 762 aks in the shooting range aim at the chest and keep it there the majority of shots will be around the target i dont care how many hours you have you cant counter bloom

@josiahsalazar4079 5 күн бұрын

@@termin8ter4562 bro no way so you cant somehow counter left and right recoil yeah right it dont matter how much hours you got your hitting other bodyparts

@termin8ter4562 5 күн бұрын

@josiahsalazar4079 Yall are stupid as shit. Its never been easier to spray and for your information i dont like to spray ive always burst unless a spray is absolutely needed. Idgaf what amyone says BP doesnt pen armor like it used to.