I always took "Femboy" as a mirror to "Tomboy", also I feel that femboy kinda got a "cute" connotation and a nice sonority to it. My prediction is: While the term "bussy" exists the term "femboy" will still exist

i dont understand this AT ALL ive been a femboy for years and never once identified as trans, just GNC.

Society expects me as a cis woman to put more effort into my looks but I too eepy so I wear baggy t-shirt and leggings

I saw a Tumblr post that was something along the lines of "being nb is running as far away from your agab as possible, and then slowly approaching it again from the other side", and I feel that

I watched the stream where F1nn said this. As someone who is a lot older one thing I've noticed about F1nn (as much as I love him), is that his timelines are very skewed, this is because young people have no sense of how time and change happen. The supposition that the term femeboy will fall out of use by 2026 (just 2yrs away) forgets that new femeboys will probably come along and fill the gaps left by F1nn, Nano and all the others. My prediction is that the term femeboy will be around for the foreseeable future. It's a term that has been around for a lot longer than people think, and until society changes drastically - hopefully in the way this video describes - it will still be used. F1nn also said that society will change in the next 5 to 10yrs, and nobody will be concerned about trans people. I believe he is wrong there too. I'm almost 66 and genderfluid, I started presenting feminine before personal computers existed in 1974. Life for trans and feminine men has alternated between difficult and very difficult about every 10yrs but overall things are better than when I was young but change is very slow, I cannot see change getting any faster and things might even slip backwards as they are at the moment, I found the easiest time for me was late 80s early 90s here in Britain. (It does vary by country.) Stay safe and stay fabulous folks. 💐🤔🐈‍⬛😼♥️☕🥖🧀🇪🇺🇬🇧🇺🇦🇵🇸🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈💐

i'm a trans guy and honestly the term femboy makes me feel very euphoric

I identify as a femboy, a straight femboy even. I can dress adorably(no skirts but croptops and sweatpants/boxer shorts), be caked to the moon and be all feminine all while pulling. I'm very comfortable being a guy(he/him/amab), and very uncomfortable with the idea of having a gender crisis or having the idea in my head of being a lady, makes me wanna rip my skin off just thinking about it(being trapped in a body I don't belong in). Im very glad to have people who are accepting of my lifestyle and my choices around me. Anyway yap yap yap. Yall are cute as fuck. Love ya.

I technically know F1nn5ter is incorrect because I’m a Femboy who is definitely not a closeted trans because I’ve already done that introspection and realized I’m a he him through and through. The only possible other option is if I don’t realize I’m less binary then I think but I’m not a she/ her and never will be nothing wrong with that. Idk if I will be using a different term then Femboy to describe myself eventually though as I always felt the only reason terms like Femboy and similar terms need to exist is because our gender expectations were being subverted and we needed to define our experience in that system. I suppose maybe in a perfect world where gender expectations were lifted such labels wouldn’t mean much anymore and wouldn’t have to.

Me, as a trans man, over here picking up the word "femboy" to describe myself, and I'm just like "wait, pls don't leave, I just got here" XD

When I left the conservative religious community I grew up in, and tried to integrate into the gay community, many tried to convince me that I was a femboy, and that I didn't have many alternatives. I never identified with this nickname. I'm a "femme", it's true, but there's nothing "boy" about me.

I think it'll be thought of how we think about tomboys. Partly, as the hard lines of gender identity/expression get more blurred terms like gender non conforming will have less meaning. Confirming is less of a thing when roles are less strict or completely gone.

As someone who started as transfem and now uses the term femboy, the eggifi-cation of GNC people absolutely does happen. For *years* I was told by fellow queers that my internal need to express any femininity meant that I was actually a trans woman and needed to embrace and accept that part of me to be happy. I lived under the identity of woman for two years, which just... Felt just as repressive as being the hyper-masc guy I was raised to be. After meeting and interacting with a lot of the trans guys who were pushed out of the Austin queer space for not being sapphic enough, I realized there was still an aspect of "boyhood" separate from "man" that I still identified with, which let me start to present myself as I most feel me to be, and the transmedicalist infiltration and poisoning of the well of the broader queer movement really held me back. The idea that femboy is *only* an aesthetic descriptor is such a reductionist view of gender, it really, really makes me disheartened at the narrow views of the broader queer-acceptance movement. At least to me, truck guys and gamer guys are different forms of gender expression, and a broader, non-specific view of gender-as-aesthetic is such an important thing that we need to embrace for more broad acceptance in the movement towards gender-abolitionism.

Happy Gender Day, this cis boi is stoked for the double holiday 🏳️‍⚧️

I went through a femboy phase and I did move to transfem as I got more comfy with femininity, but my biggest motivator was how femboy is a term that implies youth, and eventually I was going to have to give it up anyway

I find this take quite disappointing, especially coming from another trans person. Literally, what is so unbelievable about a man enjoying feminine things? Guess I'll have to detransition now because I must be either a woman or nonbinary.

I'm a trans guy but I'm also a femboy (been out for years, realised it about 10 years ago, been a femboy specifically for 6-7 years after becoming comfy enough to not associate my clothes with my gender anymore). I don't think the word will die out, or at least not as quickly as 2026. if anything it'll probably get a new name (like some people tried with roseboy - personally hate that word tbh) but I don't think it'll completely die in terms of the word being used even if renamed

Unfortunately I know a 30+ year old femboy (benjy vr) who's been a femboy for like half his life sooooo Disproven by contradiction I don't doubt there'll be a decent portion of people that move on from the femboy label to something else. The main question is what portion? Is it like 30%? 70%? 90%? Also i still think of myself as a closeted femboy often even though I'm agender because, well, I often forget that gender identity exists.

I identified as a femboy for over a decade before finally realizing I was non-binary but the term still means a lot to me and I still use it. The idea is simple, you have a male/man identifying individual either cis, trans man or non-binary who still identify at least partly as a man but prefers their gender expression to be feminine, a femboy.

I think it's interesting how the term femboy has very different connotations in male vs female dominated spaces. For cis women the term is very non-s3xual, and is usually used to describe guys who fall into the more elegant aspects of femininity, such as being well groomed/dressed, emotionally available, and into the arts. Kaveh from Genshin Impact would be a good example. Essentially it's SOMEWHAT similar to the terms "twink" and "malewife" but is overall more specific.

Happy Easter and Trans Visibility Day

they grow up so fast next thing we know they’ll be getting pregnant and becoming mothers like ciswomen 🥺

I know I started using “gentle men” as an alternative with my friends who were sad they reached a bit older and still wanted to be feminine with their clothing. I know they get insecure with the internet and all the weird boxes they got pushed into online. Especially when they themselves are not trans but all their friends are.

21:00 how is femboy less of a target for transphobia? ppl who are transphobic don't know the difference they just see a male person looking feminine and they don't like that (or you pass really well, and then femboy or trans they don't notice). It's not like trans ppl are like "show me your femboy card or I'll make fun of you". I dress very masculine and ppl on the street look at me really wierd all the time bc of feminine glasses, long hair and sometimes dangly earrings. I can't imagine non-passing femboys don't get it as well.

I personally don't like the term "femboy" because 2016 anime fans used it to make my transfem life a living hell (as well as the "trap" term), but this is probably just a anecdotal experience

I am gonna remain a femboy for a while, I am still a femboy through and through just because I am he/they and a femboy

I think that the term femboy will change or be replaced, not for the reason that most or all femboys will end up as some kind of trans but because it's an umbrella term now. It includes trans/nb, gender non-conforming men, and cis/transmen crossdressers inspired by anime. At some point new terms will come up that would better reflect these groups.

About men’s clothes, I have noticed them getting a bit better in recent years. I’m cishet dude with a more macho aesthetic and I’ve been finding more and more shirts that accentuate by chest, shoulders and arms and generally help me look Chadly. I know a lot of us don’t frequent these types of videos, at the moment, but I wanted to add that.

Why did you need to make a 51 minute video about a self-describing term? - - - > Feminine + boy = feminine boy = femboy. Not trans, not gay, not anything but a feminine boy. Why is it so hard for you people? We use a modular language, allowing you to explain new situation by combining words: Koala + Red = Red Koala. Breedable + Femboy = Breedable Femboy. Gay + Femboy = Gay Femboy.

what about trans men who are femboys

I really like femboy as a trans masc term personally. It redefines your perceived femininity into a masculine framework. It makes me feel like I'm being read more accurately, which is hard without hormones

I don’t know much of anything on the gender identity of many femboys but I doubt the core of femboy’s will ever truly go away as not everyone is trans, being male and liking femboy style doesn’t inherently mean you wish to transition, so no I don’t really agree with Finn

Is this a 50-minute video on femboy discourse?

I feel that the term "femboy" is just something that exists due to binary enforcement in society. Cismale or cisfemale, hetero or homo, etc. It forces people into binary boxes where they don't belong. The sooner we liberate society at large from arbitrary boxes and start focusing on individual expression I think we'll start being more comfortable about gender expression and sexuality.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own". When Adam Savage uses it the proverb is charming, but putting a right-wing fundamentalist spin on it can be frightening.

kinda reminds me of when they said emo wouldnt be used anymore, its just used less.

In my opinion, since gender non-conformity is part of gender expression, and you don't have to dress or look a certain way to be cis, trans, non-binary or anything else, I don't think liking crossdressing on its own means you're likely trans or non-binary, but your decision to identify as one is the thing that counts. Your decision to identify as trans/enby is a decision you make based on what you believe you are in your mind and what suits you and makes you happy. Basically, what makes sense to you. You pick what part of that to show to other people. Crossdressing can be a clue to you of what identity works best for you, but it doesn't necessarily have to be, and it shouldn't indicate anything to other people about being cis or trans or enby, but because of gender norms people may think stuff about you if they see you in the "wrong" attire or hairstyle or makeup etc. Female-expressing men are much rarer than male-expressing women because of gender norms in society. I believe that expressive men with makeup and feminine looks, femboys being one kind of those, should be a thing. Is it gonna happen anytime soon? I don't know.

i feel like femme boy is going to be something trans mascs adopt more

How are the bots so fast wtf-

I don't follow. Is Conure saying the Astolfo sign meme is a dogwistle? I think this perception that all femboys are trans women in denial is very problematic. Yes, many are, but just as many people stop using the label because it's harder to pull off the body type, or, more often, because they settled down with someone. Often times the label femboy is used for those who don't identify with it. A way of describing another. That's what happens to me. People just assume I am a femboy and assume I am trans. It's crazy. My ex misgendered me, she thought I was in denial, and creeps in DMs do the same. It is a real issue on Discord and Twitter. I think for whatever reason they are blind to this being a deeper cultural problem.

Its crazy that some people still complain about brisket.

Broke: Femboy is going away because the transes are at it again. Woke: Femboy is not necessarily going away, just evolving. Bespoke: Femboy is going away because I’m too powerful for that term and am no longer beholden to it.

Things like high heels (and wigs and tights and so on) were at one point men's fashion. Those things then became feminized in the snowball effect of the dandy movement redefining masculine presentation as less and less flamboyant and expressive over time. In some sense, the femboy thing is two things. It's both trans femmes finding their identities through presentation first, and men/boys taking back the freedom from the fashion prison of post-dandy masculinity, similarly to women claiming the right to wear pants or generally present "butch". Pants eventually became gender neutral. That might happen for things currently considered feminine as well, or it might not. Gender non-conformity is always relative to current norms, and if/when those change as social constructs tend to do, non-conformity becomes something else as well. So will the term "Femboy" fade? Maybe. "Part-time transvestite" and "female impersonator" kind of did. It might get replaced by multiple specific aesthetic descriptors that de-emphasize the gendered aspect, or we might see a new antonym for butch/tomboy gain popularity. It's all memes, and those are hard to predict.

This video somehow put more cracks in my already shattered egg. I realized that I would probably never identify with the term femboy because it wouldn't feel like I'm being true to myself. When I though about it, it's not just a feminine presentation I want. I want to feel like and be a woman.

It's funny because I'm a trans guy and enjoy presenting femme. I have pearl earrings and jewelry, and when I finally start presenting masculine I'm gonna be wearing the hell out of some makeup.

An error in this is the strict application of gender to clothing and styles. The fact we gender things like poses, opposed to describing things. That first pic of you, there is not one non sexist reason males can not wear that. That 2nd outfit you said was fem boy, was much more goth than anything and dudes in that scene do or did wear such things. Why is biting even considered feminine? Biting can be done by any sex...hell any creature. Male cats nibble and bite just as much as female cats for one example. Just stop gendering every thing!

I'm a trans gal, while i understand the controversies arround the term femboy... i just see it as an aesthetic :), and i like it! Yeah, feminine boys dont have to be trans yet no one is pushing them into it.. like.. just be yourself and be happy right? If there is anyone "pushing" a femboy to be trans, i dont think its right to put pressure on someone, of course you can ask like "maybe you're trans?" but if the person is not, its okay, its fine 👌 Tbh i love femboys, every femboy that ive ever met were lovely persons to me, they were happy bout bridget being trans and i would be happy for them if bridget was a femboy too, in the end its representation and why wouldnt i be happy for them when they were happy for me right? I've seen trans girl sayin that they dont like femboys... but.. for me, bigots who hate you dont even need a reason for that, they just hate trans ppl for nothing, they dont think we should exist, just like that... its not femboys fault, bigots just call trans femmes that way to make them feel bad, pls dont put the blame on femboys D:, its not a competition to see who is less hated, we can be stronger together. Bout the video, i agree with you :), good takes 👍

I think what finn was trying to convey was the tendency for once femboy identifying trans people to not need to be labeled as a femboy first prior to transitioning. I believe the idea comes from a stigma where transfems sometimes start out as femboys and when they eventually discover they are trans, they transition. Finn is trying to say that egged trans people who originally identified as femboys wont need to go through this like he once did. But then again, I don't really know I think both femboy and transfems are mutually distinct and one does not necessitates another. A femboy is not the harbringer for trans identity and I don't think transfems need to comply with the femboy aesthetic. I think the reason some do is because it's popular and they really enjoy it. Then again, IDK I'm just waffling

I will still exist in 2026, so femboys will still exist. I will never stop being femboy. 🗿

Conure, I think you're projecting your own experienec with the term too much upon it. Femboy is neither a gender term nor an aesthetic term exclusively- its an umbrella term for both. Even in 2013 there were people like Eagle Summers who related to the term as a way to express their bigenderness. Lots of people use it to communicate their queerness, not their aesthetics. Lots of femboy communities center themselves on "you're a femboy if you identify as one, even if you dont look fem"- self-conception, not aesthetic. Certainly theres lots of people who use it to refer to aesthetics but for a lot of people it helps to communicate their gender-related needs.

"The call is coming from inside the house" killed me LMAO

I feel like society is being more gender focused rather then less instead of being loose and having femmine men,trans or whatever You gotta fit perfectly in the male box,female or trans box

In my opinion, I think we might see a renaming femboys and tomboys, along with butch women and a type of men I can only think have been called metrosexual or something, along with some inclusive words for enbies that can be similar to the descriptions. It might take longer than a couple years.

My femboy cope lasted me just over 7 months before I ended up getting on hrt and coming out as a woman lmfao Admitting I was feminine and into men were both a lot easier than admitting that I'm not cis, and I think the reason for why that is is because I didn't like laying claim to the identity of "woman" due to it being a highly contested term, but femboy is something that feels less refutable, and also the discrepancy between where I was and where I wanted to be hurt less when I choose to hold myself to feminine boy standards instead of comparing myself to other women. It made stepping my toes into my preferred presentation fell less daunting because I wasn't holding myself to standards that are only achievable through being estrogenic.

Femboy here. Definitely not a woman but I am a tran (FtM)

I'm the same way. As long as no one is committing crimes, isn't harming anyone, isn't preventing another person from living their own life, do whatever you want. Doesn't bother me and most of the time it isn't my business. I live my life, I let other people live their life, that's it. I'm able to mind my own business, unlike other nosy people.

The first twitter bio: "I'm just a guy who shitposts memes, weeb shit, and video game stuff. Former Halo nerd. Advocate for Free Speech and Artistic Freedom. " View timeline: loli loli loli loli loli ..... why is the people who still cling to using the word groomer, are always into children? Someone, someday, is going to have to do some research on the correlation. 😆

As a slightly effeminate cis man: I have been confused by the existence of femboys (don't really identify with their manner of dress/"sexy" poses). This presentation probably helped explain things. Essentially the male equivalent of a "tomboy", it I am understanding correctly. With the understanding that it is more of an aesthetic, rather than gender identification term.

Your beatbox is on point, Conure. Very fly.

I will keep the term alive. Don't worry

🤣🤣 you killed me with that deadly hard sharp left turn "that's an awf'ly hawt cawfee pawt" 🤣🤣🤣 I wasn't ready

i'm in a weird zone with my own gender where my gender presentation and identity is inherently masculine, but i'm still a girl and go by she/her pronouns. i'm so gender non-conforming that i no longer really qualify as cis. i'm not transmasc, i'm just a mascgirl, but i identify with a lot of trans experiences.

femboy always seemed to me like a term for gender expression rather than gender. Kinda like how butch is about expression and it's not a different identity. But I feel like these words are falling short of explaining contemporary experiences. Words like butch and femboy kinda blur the lines between gender, expression and sexual dynamics and now that we're seeing more people experimenting with different combinations of these things, I think we'll find different words that are better at describing these experiences. Queer lingo needs a patch update.

Just in time for my lunch break

Hi there, conure! I really like your videos and I find your humor very funny.

When you were talking about how much more work it is to be femme compared to masc one thing you can do to cut down on the makeup time is get red tattoo on your lips and tattoo your eye brows too so thats two less things to do. Ive been thinking of this myself but havent decided yet.

7 years, I certainly don't feel like a dying breed :3

As a feminine man that doesn't fit the "femboy aesthetic", I completely disagree with the idea that its just an aesthetic. I mean come on it's in the name, fem-boy. Feminine boy. If you're a guy and you present feminine in any way you're a femboy, simple as that

how is this not "transing the gay away" like conservatives and terfs claim?

Conure always has the best commentary, 10/10 for the word play

Hello, new sub here(hee hee) you popped onto my suggestions , I had to stop and hear what you said. I like your Moxie! You gave clear and concise presentation of your case and ideas and views. I think I'll be back to. Hear more. Keep up the good work ! I'll watch 😊more of your backlog and I await you new posts. P.s. I agree, I like your lips too, jealous much! Lol..

You discuss men not caring, and that's been pretty true. I know I've found comfort in the knowledge i could get by while ugly without too much of an issue. When I try to dress "nicely" I don't feel like I'm accentuating my body, I feel like I'm hiding it under nice clothes.

Imma femboy and I happy for finnester (how ever dah fuck yah spell it )end of story

"Society evolving past needing the term femb0ys is bad actually, but Elon Musk pushing for transhumanism with neuralink is Pog" - some blue checkmarked fella on X probably.

it's okay dude the trans men with the feminine presentation are already on it.

i just watched a 50min video on femboy discourse... i didnt realise it was 50min. good video

There is nothing wrong with being a feminine man or a masculine woman. I don't think you can become trans. You either are trans or not.

Jesus teleported out of a cave and changed her pronouns

Connure where do you shop? I'm trying to get that drip and I desperately seek your levels of drip 💁‍♀️❤️

Hot take. An aesthetic is just a social gender. A regular gender is just a cluster of stereotypes. An aesthetic is an intentional embrasure of a cluster of tropes.

Trans People are different than Femboys Femboys are biological males that dress Feminine and Trans people are born a different gender but decided to switch genders and not all Femboys want to transition to a Female but interesting video but please try to not confuse the two different people 😊👍

as a transgender man (ftm) i did do that hyperfemme act just at the end of high school because my face is androgynous, and i had a mostly masculine deadname growing up. was a very strange experience as someone who was expected to be a “clean feminine girl” growing up. always having various ages of people questioning what you are when you say you’re that and your supposed “biology” marks you as such. its a fucked up dissonance for people who dont fit in nice neat boxes and the gendered trauma is weird as fuck.

is this ‘nuts on the’ table NL-sourced? or am I ignant to the flow of zeitgeist?

The problem with Bridget is more complicated than transphobia, once you consider that the kid didn't choose to be a girl initially, but was actually raised as a girl since childhood, and in contrast went out as a guy once Bridget got old enough to leave home despite that. Bridget may have always been feminine enough for the transition to be believable, but it's the connotations of groomming that makes that narrative choice controversial, not the plain fact that they reluctantly went trans in the end (Bridget seemed unsure about their identity even within the game the claim was made).

Might sound chasery, but I'm attracted to femboys but not into masculine men.

It doesn't surprise me to see F1nn5ter coming out as trans, they was so far into the femboy aesthetic they was giving most transfems like me gender envy ! They's going to be an adorable influencer among us Maybe the femboy "trend" will calm down, but there will still be a good amount of femboys, because not only a lot of men will keep search for cuteness, and it's also a natural midpoint for transfem eggs trying and enjoying a more feminine representation, adopting the aesthetic before going farther and adopt a new gender. JJAB is really wrong because F1nn was not pushed to become trans, but actually _pushed back_ from it due to their role at being the world's most popular femboy influencer.

I am glad to see you took all viewpoints from a neutral approach and worked through them. And with this topic, where theres so many inmature and vague reasons given when you ask other people

It might also be fallacious to say that femboy isn't real just because it's a stepping stone because... so is childhood. The femboy aesthetic makes more sense at a certain level of maturity (or lack thereof). I weirdly went through a little bit of a femboy cis boy crossdresser phase when I was like 17. I just grew out of it. I'm too old to pull it off.

What do you suppose feminine men call themselves then? Is there any other terms i am unfamiliar with?

Wow, i didnt think one person could encapsulate where I am mentally on gender. Agender, but at the same all genders, because fuck gender norms. But also mainlining estradiol. Im almost there, preserving my stuff first, hopefully in a couple weeks, then I'm going full force into it. Also, take a like and subscribe :)

Conure I generally actually want to have a conversation as to how trap is a slur to the trans community. In so many ways it doesn't make sense that it is. Also I would like other inputs on this but I feel like I have strong arguments as to how it's not a slur

i always viewed femboy as the anthesesis (or however you spell it, the fancy word for opposite) for tomboy

happy april fools everyone. 10 hours ago and it's gone 12

I've been a femboy since 13 so this is wrong to me

38:26 and what do you expect me to do about it huh? Am I not allowed to complain about it because I'm a man?

The immediate mental math in my head told me 2026 is 10 years from now.....then I realized its about 20 months from now

Femboy to me (I am one, well is Gender Fluid & DID, but is partly Femboy) is when one has a main masculine gender, however they feel as though feminine presentation and concepts best define their gender. It's a subset of Rosboy (pronounced Roseboy) which is any gender that considers themself a boy or man, either from having a connection to boyhood/manhood or desiring to be outwardly perceived as boys/men, but also have a connection to femininity or is feminine in some way, whether that be in gender or in presentation. This could be entirely internal or external through gender expression non-conformity; some ways of expressing this are through alternate pronouns, names, physical expression, mannerisms, desired titles, etc. though these are not necessary components. So yes Femboy is in fact a Gender and also an Aesthetic. Or maybe its just a Gender Expression, who knows for sure, maybe I'm a Rosboy with a Femboy Expression >.>

I'm a femboy and I intend to stay one

The main thing that bugs me is tying cultural changes in our perceptions of gender to grooming, which is basically conservative christians hiding grooming practices in their own communities and redifining it to hide what grooming actually is. Which is actually an adult that is manipulating and controlling a much younger person in order to isolate them, abuse them and take sexual advantage over them, that is what grooming actually is.

Looking good! 💕

I'm a trans woman. Not a femboy. Although i guess i sort of am since i cosplayed Link from BotW yesterday. But i dont identify with the term.