Is Google CoLab Pro or CoLab Pro+ Worth it in 2023?

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Jeff Heaton

Jeff Heaton

Жыл бұрын

Google Colab free is not what it used to be. Google introduced two new premium plans, as well as a pay as you go plan. For $9.99/month you can get Google Colab Pro and for $49.99/month you can get Google Colab Pro+. These two plans come with 100 and 500 compute units respectively. In this video I look at if these subscriptions might make sense for you.
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@pedroramon3942
@pedroramon3942 10 ай бұрын
Adding to this video: I paid for collab pro and I didn't use my credits during the month then I canceled the pro plan to stop paying for something was not using. The compute credits can be used up to 90 days. I used the copute credits with the T4 GPU for feature extraction then after 1 h runtime the execution was terminated by collab. and my credits were used for nothing. It is frustrating that I am experiencing my paid compute credits in the same way that a free plan experiences.
@iknownotwhoiam
@iknownotwhoiam Жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel. I’m going to try out Paperspace as well. Could you also do a video on how you’re managing your experiment results, model training runs or dataset versions?
@nahuelhds
@nahuelhds 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review, man. Really helpful for me
@musicandhappinessbyjo795
@musicandhappinessbyjo795 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what exactly does compute unit actually mean?
@stevedevney7322
@stevedevney7322 Жыл бұрын
With gpu prices a bit more manageable now, it seems like building a system makes a lot more sense with deep learning now that colab is no longer worth it.
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree.
@abdennacerlachiheb319
@abdennacerlachiheb319 Жыл бұрын
@stevedevney7322 can you share which GPU you have used for building your system
@stevedevney7322
@stevedevney7322 Жыл бұрын
@@abdennacerlachiheb319 I have a 1080, and a 3090. With the 3090 being for nets.
@karatsurba4791
@karatsurba4791 8 ай бұрын
​@@stevedevney7322thanks. With the GPU cost n cost of energy, how much does it approximately come upto
@ahmedprog3174
@ahmedprog3174 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much colab pro how much ram available
@zicolavladimir5706
@zicolavladimir5706 Жыл бұрын
does anyone know how much disk colabs pro plus provide to us?
@cainnhemachena
@cainnhemachena Жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff. How did you get the Googl Colab Runtime type to offer "Python 3.9 (tensorflow)"? I'm trying to get Tensforflow 2.9 with Python 3.8 and am facing challenges. It just defaults to Python3.10 (latest)
@auslei
@auslei 11 ай бұрын
Isn't sagemaker studio free?
@Comic_Book_Creator
@Comic_Book_Creator Жыл бұрын
thank you , please can you explain, what computer units means? its said you have 1300 unites, and for example if I purchase 100 unites, how long can I use that .. lets say I spend 5hr a day to work with Stable Diff.
@QuranUrduEnglishArabic
@QuranUrduEnglishArabic Жыл бұрын
100 did one video only
@Spindonesia
@Spindonesia Жыл бұрын
Runpod good?
@PearlenEspanol-td7tm
@PearlenEspanol-td7tm 7 ай бұрын
can you redo the test now?
@luisramonramirezrodriguez3658
@luisramonramirezrodriguez3658 Жыл бұрын
Paperspace subscription is quite good, cost 8$ a month and you get to choose the GPU, they also have a free tier
@mohammadkashif750
@mohammadkashif750 Жыл бұрын
what are the GPUs offered in $8 plans?
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
Yes, I am wondering this myself. Hope to try them out soon.
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
Paperspace looks really interesting.
@mloewen248
@mloewen248 Жыл бұрын
Jeff - This is exactly my frustration with Colab right now. Do you happen to know of a source that compares consumer-grade GPUs to purchase for machine learning? I'm thinking of just buying an Nvidia or AMD GPU to run locally, but all benchmarking sites focus on gaming performance, which may or may not be similar to machine learning.
@MathewPanicker1010
@MathewPanicker1010 Жыл бұрын
Gaming perf should be an okay-ish benchmark honestly. And memory ofc
@Justpostitlikethat
@Justpostitlikethat Жыл бұрын
quadro cards are 48gb for machine learning... expensive
@kitgary
@kitgary Жыл бұрын
I would like to build my own PC with dual RTX 4090 for machine learning, may I ask which motherboard and case you would recommend? I can hardly find a board that can fit two RTX 4090.
@jamesjonnes
@jamesjonnes Жыл бұрын
I would advise against it. I tried this dual setup a long time ago and it didn't compare to just a single high-end GPU, in the end I had to sell the GPUs and buy a new one. Maybe they fixed the issue, I'm not up to date on this, but I'd do a lot of research before doing it.
@nullbeyondo
@nullbeyondo Жыл бұрын
I'm subscribed to Colab Pro, not Colab Pro+. I get A100-40GB all the time too. Does anyone get any higher? I actually need more VRAM for some heavy deep-learning training.
@RajdeepBorgohainRajdeep
@RajdeepBorgohainRajdeep Жыл бұрын
Bro no you will not get atleast for now
@kdlin1
@kdlin1 Жыл бұрын
I am experimenting Colab Pro+ for CV and object identification training and inferencing. I have found loading images from my Google Drive really slows down the training. Is there a way to speed up the image loading process?
@denysivanov3364
@denysivanov3364 Жыл бұрын
you need to make a zip or tar from your training data and copy large files (archives) to your colab training machine and unpack there. Best is to buy 4090 though. Colab pro + became too expensive for serious work! (24/7 training)
@kdlin1
@kdlin1 Жыл бұрын
@@denysivanov3364 Thank you.
@Jerry-kh8tz
@Jerry-kh8tz Жыл бұрын
@@denysivanov3364 How do I copy the files into the training machine? I currently have all my images on GoogleDrive (that I have to replicate from GCP bucket storage).
@denysivanov3364
@denysivanov3364 Жыл бұрын
@@Jerry-kh8tz I tried to comment but I dont see it. Just google "google colaboratory mount google drive" then copy code snippet into your notebook and voila :) After its mounted cp -rf will work! But google limits number of files transferred per day, so files should be packed into +- large tar or zip files.
@Moh8585
@Moh8585 Жыл бұрын
Pack images in tensor and save it.
@samesamue6728
@samesamue6728 Жыл бұрын
How much intense we can run in Google colab pro+ in one time
@maximinmaster7511
@maximinmaster7511 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this instructive video
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JanKrummrey
@JanKrummrey Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insight. Please do a follow up video on better alternatives.
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
Yes, I am planning on that.
@mpfmax0
@mpfmax0 Жыл бұрын
when you are subscribed as pro+ can you use a non-GPU runtime and leave it in the background (for example for a long gridsearch for a randomforest) and will it not consume your compute units?
@praveenbehara
@praveenbehara 10 ай бұрын
They might be consuming a very miniscule amount. After signing up, I only used the CPU / T4 (supposedly free) to login and still had some credits deducted. If it is free to non-subscribers, it should be free to subscribers.
@mpfmax0
@mpfmax0 10 ай бұрын
@@praveenbehara yeah it does consume a bit and it’s annoying because as you say it should be free to subscribers as well. I use 2 google accounts now to avoid that.
@xtoronto6172
@xtoronto6172 Жыл бұрын
Im trying to export 5100 frames 2/3 times a week, do you think Colab pro will work?
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
I render video/frames on it, and have rendered in that size. Depends on the amount of processing per frame.
@MOHSINALI-bk2qo
@MOHSINALI-bk2qo Жыл бұрын
I have one question, which one is better collab pro + Services or buy NVIDA RTX 3060 for Research purspose
@RajdeepBorgohainRajdeep
@RajdeepBorgohainRajdeep Жыл бұрын
Colab pro! V100 is better than 3060. But your max execution time is 24hrs keep that in mind
@MOHSINALI-bk2qo
@MOHSINALI-bk2qo Жыл бұрын
@@RajdeepBorgohainRajdeep thanks for your reply. Do you mean to say everyday limit in collab
@eMgotcha77
@eMgotcha77 Жыл бұрын
How do you handle big data uploads to CoLab ? Also with Google Drive?
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
It depends. I don't send it through GDrive or even map it. GDrive is slow, I just use GDrive to archive. I will either place the data somewhere I can wget/curl it. Or I will use the colab Python package's upload feature and place it into the /content area, realizing that area is gone when the VM dies. I copy the final work product to GDrive.
@proterotype
@proterotype Жыл бұрын
I found a way to use large datasets in Colab from an article called, How to successfully add large data sets to Google Drive and use them in Google Colab, by Magdalena Konkiewicz Hope it helps
@ziweiyang2673
@ziweiyang2673 2 ай бұрын
you can parse your data into TFRecord something like that, which will make it run much more faster in your project
@mateolopez6205
@mateolopez6205 3 ай бұрын
2024 i get to choose between A100 gpu and V100 gpu, I believe the A100 gpu is more efficient right? Tbh I only bought colab pro+ because of the background running since some of my notebooks tend to have extensive execution times.
@mrkmja
@mrkmja Ай бұрын
I'm debating upgrading to Pro+ for this exact reason, but concerned it'll still unexpectedly disconnect my runtime. How's your experience been since you commented this?
@mateolopez6205
@mateolopez6205 Ай бұрын
@@mrkmja it hasn’t disconnected for a single time when background running, you don’t even need to be connected to the internet. It has been really good so far. Your notebook will keep running regardless but keep in mind that the limit is 24 hours of background running, after that your notebook will automatically stop running.
@mrkmja
@mrkmja Ай бұрын
@@mateolopez6205 Okay perfect because I just made the move. 😂 thanks for letting me know!
@shivampradhan6101
@shivampradhan6101 Жыл бұрын
Can we connect snowflake database to collab?
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
If you have a public URL for Snowflake, I don't see why not.
@guillermocastilla6305
@guillermocastilla6305 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this can get hopefully expensive in a hurry
@fastrocket
@fastrocket Жыл бұрын
I had 3 Colab Pro+, but dropped all three after their pricing change. Just wasn’t worth it any more. Paperspace gave more bang.
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the alt suggestions, please keep them coming.
@chemicburn
@chemicburn Жыл бұрын
How about paperspace they have a free start to pay as well?
@chemicburn
@chemicburn Жыл бұрын
Ooops just realized someone beat me to this comment by 4h 😂
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
Oh this is good, just another vote for paperspace. I will certainly check them out.
@AgusJanardana
@AgusJanardana Жыл бұрын
im a student and google collab pro is not for student, ill recommend google remove the "student" tag from their packages list plan. Too expensive.
@prchaser2081
@prchaser2081 9 ай бұрын
Can you run multiple colab sessions at once with Colab Pro?
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch 9 ай бұрын
Yes, I frequently do that.
@prchaser2081
@prchaser2081 9 ай бұрын
​@@HeatonResearch How many sessions? 2 or 3 or?
@prchaser2081
@prchaser2081 9 ай бұрын
On the free version I notice I can only run 1
@PearlenEspanol-td7tm
@PearlenEspanol-td7tm 7 ай бұрын
Yeah hwo man? @@HeatonResearch
@PearlenEspanol-td7tm
@PearlenEspanol-td7tm 7 ай бұрын
Did you get the answer?@@prchaser2081
@MultiMojo
@MultiMojo Жыл бұрын
Lambda labs charges $1.1 per hour for an A100 instance. Colab pro is more expensive at $1.3 per hour. Either way, if someone needs a GPU for full time research they're still better off building a PC with a dedicated GPU.
@josephsantarcangelo9310
@josephsantarcangelo9310 Жыл бұрын
I find ram is much better in Colab Plus
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
I agree. Have not specifically tested it though.
@canerc6668
@canerc6668 10 ай бұрын
51 GB of system memory is available in Colab Plus now. How is it in Colab Pro Plus?
@lamwlw
@lamwlw Жыл бұрын
summarized by Claude+ "Here is a summary of the key points from the video: - Google Colab started as a free service but now charges for GPU access and additional features. The free tier now provides limited, intermittent GPU access. - Colab Pro and Pro Plus are paid subscription plans that provide faster, dedicated GPUs and additional features like a terminal window. However, the specific GPUs and resources provided are not clearly specified. - The video creator finds the lack of transparency around the GPUs and resources provided to be frustrating. The paid plans can end up being expensive if a lot of compute is used, but it's hard to determine if the cost is worthwhile without more details. - Colab Pro Plus provides continuous execution, so notebooks can be stopped and restarted without losing progress. This makes it easy to accidentally run up high compute costs if unchecked. - As of early 2023, Colab Pro Plus appears to primarily provide access to A100 GPUs, which can be quite expensive. The creator would prefer to see lower-cost options like V100 GPUs available as well. - Overall, the creator feels Colab started as a very useful free service but has become less valuable and transparent over time. The paid plans may be worth it for some limited use cases, like accessing the terminal window, but are hard to evaluate fully without more details on the resources provided. - Alternative options mentioned include Kaggle, SageMaker, and managing your own EC2 instances. The key takeaways are: 1) Google Colab's free GPU access and resources have become more limited over time. The paid plans provide faster, dedicated resources but lack transparency into what is actually provided. 2) Colab Pro and Pro Plus can end up being expensive, especially if high-end GPUs like the A100 are used. More cost-effective options would be preferable for many use cases. 3) While still useful for some limited purposes, Colab is not as compelling of an option as it used to be due to the lack of details provided about the paid resources. Alternative services may be better options depending on your needs. 4) If you do use Colab, be very aware of how much you are spending on compute to avoid surprise charges from continuously running or resource-intensive notebooks. Does this summary accurately reflect the key highlights and takeaways from the video? Let me know if you have any feedback or additions. I'm happy to clarify or expand on any part of the summary."
@RajdeepBorgohainRajdeep
@RajdeepBorgohainRajdeep Жыл бұрын
This is not summary 🤣🤣
@erikschiegg68
@erikschiegg68 Жыл бұрын
Runpod is about 6 times cheaper.
@HeatonResearch
@HeatonResearch Жыл бұрын
Oh thanks! Will check that one out for sure.
@asraajalilsaeed7435
@asraajalilsaeed7435 Жыл бұрын
49,9$ for one month or for three months! Because auto subscription to new 500 computation unit
@capasi5380
@capasi5380 Жыл бұрын
In my stupid country called India, the gpus are like 3* higher priced than compared to USA. So I'll rather stick with colab. I still use a frickin GT 610 as a programmer and a 3D artist. SMH
@RajdeepBorgohainRajdeep
@RajdeepBorgohainRajdeep Жыл бұрын
Dude dare you call your country stupid! Forgot about India you don't deserve to be a resident of Pakistan 🤣 And GPU prices have been reduced a lot since the downfall of crypto. Stop complain stupid!
@lubdubguy
@lubdubguy 11 ай бұрын
India isn't stupid. It's a land of opportunities. Last time I checked, it's the same price
@The_Comment_Dude
@The_Comment_Dude 9 ай бұрын
​@@lubdubguyyou probably live in a cave
@kartikchopra4100
@kartikchopra4100 8 ай бұрын
Well I know they're hard to get except for a place called "Nehru Place" ironically. Book a trip to Delhi if you want 1
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