Is GPU Water Cooling Worth It? (or is Liquid Cooling Dead?)

Is GPU Water Cooling Worth It? (or is Liquid Cooling Dead?) - Probing Paul #85

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Should You Water Cool Your GPU? (or is Liquid Cooling Dead?) - Probing Paul #85
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0:00 Welcome to Probing Paul #85
0:51 Pre-Probing Notes
1:01 Should I Water Cool My GPU? (or is Liquid Cooling Dead?)
• Liquid Cooling is Dead...
6:18 How does a monitor’s resolution/size/refresh rate affect gaming performance?
10:23 What keyboard is the white one you use?
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11:43 How is the DIY home surveillance system doing?
• DIY Home Surveillance ...
• I Have a LOT to Learn ...
• I told myself this wou...
• The Final Teardown - P...
13:57 Was that a Radeon RX 7900 GRE??
• Cleanest Build Ever - ...
14:29 Looking forward to the Mini ITX build!
• Maximum Upgrade, Minim...
14:56 MAIL TIME (Sort Of) - Big Overhead Softbox Light Parts
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@ervingoss5442 3 ай бұрын

Yes, Yes, I'd like to see a DYI video on a soft box.

@jwdickieson 3 ай бұрын

Paul I'm not going to lie to you you could make a video of you just cutting what little grass you have in the backyard with the occasional thumbs up towards the camera and I would watch it because I like you as a person and have enjoyed all of your content... 🙂 So yes I would thoroughly enjoy watching you build this little rig or set up for lighting

@hanswichmann5047 3 ай бұрын

Of COURSE we want to see the light box build!!

@zodwraith5745 3 ай бұрын

I've often found it odd that CPUs get all kinds of crazy exotic cooling solutions everywhere from cheap hunk o' metal to "you're gonna need to sign a release form for this", but GPUs get hunk o' metal to bigger hunk o' metal and maybe a paltry 240 AIO with a Chinesium pump that will likely die in a year. Not only do GPUs pull far more wattage than CPUs on average, but they're far more likely to be running full tilt in realistic everyday scenarios like playing a game, while CPUs are only running full tilt if your favorite game is Cinebench. I'd like to see GPU cooling become as ubiquitous as CPU cooling where you can upgrade your solution with a few screws and $100 instead of needing an engineering degree and $500 in hardware to upgrade it.

@dangerwr 3 ай бұрын

I would love to see more DIY videos for any project you do. They've always been informative and inspiring. 👍

@t.v.9696 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for considerable probing, Paul 😁!

@Grihmmy 3 ай бұрын

Would appreciate an assembly video indeed. I really liked your home fixing videos / how to build etc as well to be both educational and enjoyable. Gives a lot of great ideas and a good step by step feel to it as well. Keep up the great work and have a nice day.

@xDownSetx 3 ай бұрын

The first card I put an AIO on was a reference R9 290. It turned a literal hair dryer into a whisper quiet GPU that never saw above 55c, that's with a single fan 140mm AIO. GPU dies are so massive compared to CPUs that the benefits of watercooling are insane. Even today with my 7900XT on a custom loop, my GPU temps rarely break 45c, 65c hotspot.

@lives4trauma 2 ай бұрын

Love all the DIY videos.

@dn7783 3 ай бұрын

I'm using a $20 transmission radiator for 20 bucks, And a $20 12 V wholehouse water pump for 20 bucks And hoses from home depot and everything runs fine.

@cj_guinn 3 ай бұрын

This is how my Mechanical Mind works and put things into functional applications. If computer parts weren't so extremely expensive it would be cool to see a DIY build that is completely functional yet using non-functional computer parts to build. If I were you I would have added some duct tape to the joints just for good measure LOL and for the added aesthetic of course. It would be sweet to see a picture!

@dn7783 2 ай бұрын

@@cj_guinn I am on tictok as hellscapedmn there some pictures

@rgracon 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the GPU water cooling and AIO topic… It’s actually great timing with the upgrade I’m considering right now!

@doryiii 3 ай бұрын

I agree with other comments on here; I added my custom loop because of how quiet it is compared to other options. Even an AIO cannot compare because you generally cannot control an AIO's fan speed based on water temperature delta over ambience, which is really the only metric your loop's fan speed should be based on.

@71janas 3 ай бұрын

As an photographer it would be interesting to a light defuser box build. Thanks for all Paul

@Frost640 3 ай бұрын

It's funny, you can tell Paul and GN Steve both came from humble beginnings. They both very pro-consumer and keep budgets in mind with sensible upgrade paths despite having large platforms where they could easily say "bigger number better, go get bigger number". Cheers Paul.

@murraystechtime8530 3 ай бұрын

Yes Paul, I would like to see a video on the dimable lightbox you are building. Keep up the great work on your content, thanks...

@KillerKermie 3 ай бұрын

I am up for any DIY video you do, always entertaining and educational

@dozerd42 3 ай бұрын

I remember you saying last time that you didn't have time to re-organize the office/set. It looks like you got to that! I have to say, it looks really nice! 👍🏻

@LuckyArmpit 3 ай бұрын

Soft Box Video? Yes, please! I look forward to seeing the process (should you choose to make a video of it).

@itsdeonlol 3 ай бұрын

Yes we want to see the light box build!

@Neopulse00 3 ай бұрын

I am for watercooling a GPU. What I don't get is why AIB partners make large size, dual-slot ITX and Low Profile GPUs like the RTX 4060 and don't try tapping into more the huge SFF market. For example, I own an off brand case that's 7.3L and fits a Micro-ATX motherboard. It's comfortable enough for one to fit a 67mm+ high CPU cooler and can still fit in a backpack, but it only uses low profile cards. And yet the case is spacious enough to fit a dual 80mm radiator setup which would be good to mounting a low profile version of a GPU like the 4070 or 7700XT in it. This would help remove the 8GB bottleneck gpu most sub

@morenoise8086 3 ай бұрын

Definitely yes on the light box build. Love the DIY videos.

@Kwijibob 3 ай бұрын

Water cooling makes a bigger difference for GPU performance than for CPUs due to GPU running at 100% almost continuously while gaming. It also reduces the amount of heat the GPU is dumping right below the CPU, which matters a lot if your CPU is air cooled. Add on to that it reduces the weight and size of the card itself so it isn't prone to sagging.

@LifeStartsAtrpm-ru1xo 3 ай бұрын

This

@ChrisVirgilio 2 ай бұрын

Water blocks aren’t exactly light weight… But lighter than heat sinks, yeah by a little bit.

@captainminxley 3 ай бұрын

Love to see another DIY video, please.

@PhantomYouTubeOfficial 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for your answer Paul! Never thought I would actually get an answer directly from you! I'm super grateful for the insight thanks!!

@AlainTabangin 3 ай бұрын

I custom loop my 4090, I couldn’t stand how big the air cooler was. Just my personal preference though, plus it runs cooler.

@kevlarandchrome 3 ай бұрын

Very interested in seeing the attempt at a softbox construction.

@fallenphoenixfilms 3 ай бұрын

Always down for a good DIY video.

@MichelBertrand 3 ай бұрын

If you take the money you save by going from an AIO to a regular air cooler, and then spend the money to go from say a 14700k to a 14900k, you may regret not having an AIO... even worse if you stretch to a 14900ks. I probably spent too much on a Corsair H150 AIO for my build, but I read before I bought that their warranty was good (even replacing damaged components from an AIO leak), so decided to go with that. My PC looks great, I'm happy with the performance of the 13700k, and it's totally silent. I say build it they way *you* like it.

@jasonlange780 3 ай бұрын

Yes, very much, so I love DIY projects of any description, but I have a special love for lighting and studio type projects that are geared towards saving money…. So I guess what I’m saying is YES, PLEASE PAUL !

@djtribo8925 3 ай бұрын

I enjoy these so much; thank you, Paul! I have been following you since the Newegg days, and I commend you on all your hard work! I am not too sure if anyone has asked this in a previous probe, but whatever happened to Arctic Panther? Cheers! 🍻

@cynanomite 3 ай бұрын

I've been running the same pump (Laing DDC) on a custom loop for the last 12 years.

@csjpokey 3 ай бұрын

Damn getting deep on that probe Paul

@jeremybarber2837 3 ай бұрын

Heck yes to the DIY soft box!

@thomasl.3663 3 ай бұрын

I have that exact smart plug I use for our outdoor dimmable string lights, works great!

@Chris-ji8jw 3 ай бұрын

Good video Paul. Thanks for all of you and your team's hard work. I would like to see the dimmable light bulb project. That sounds interesting/useful. And, i was wondering about underclocking CPU/GPUs. Is that something, that you generally get on board with. Enjoy the videos!

@donunderwood5798 3 ай бұрын

Yes, I'd like to see a build video for you light box.

@AdamMPick 3 ай бұрын

I love watercooling. Had been doing it since the 90's. Love all about it. The tinkering. We used to make our own cooling blocks. The lower noise. The better temps. Yet, my system right now does not have water in it. Performance wise the difference has gotten super small, with "air" collers, which are basicly liquid coolers, without pumps. Heat pipes are little liquid coolers, after all. The only thing I miss is the quiet running. Custom loop watercooled PC is a whole different world of quiet, than the best air cooled one. It has gotten better too on that front and 80% of people won't mind the fan noise. The main reason, why I have at least 1000€ worth of watercooling stuff laying around, but nothing in my personal PC is that I cannot afford to break stuff, with those prices. Custom loops are always slightly dangerous. I have not killed any components with water, yet. But I have seen enough GPUs with dribbled water on them that have gone the way of the Dodo. Also, I have seen water on my own parts, but never burned anything, yet. AIOs I could never get behind. Mainly because of the limited lifespan. I will go back in the future. Mostly for the silent running and the tinkering. Water is life.

@BuzzTec 3 ай бұрын

More Realist upgrade content like this pls. Keep up the great content 👌🏻

@mikeireland2428 3 ай бұрын

Yes, lighting video please.

@_Mike.P 3 ай бұрын

In the response to the first question I just want to say that I love my PowerColor Liquid Devil 7900TXT.

@nicktayloriv310 3 ай бұрын

Yes I would like to see a video of the building of the light box.

@Davidsquirl 3 ай бұрын

I'd love a video on the soft box!!

@jghogg6570 3 ай бұрын

Paul I'd love to see the soft box build.

@azntactical4884 3 ай бұрын

I just built a luchbox size pc. 14900k with a 135mm tower cooler wasn't working to well. Lowered the wattage to 275 too. Once I did a custom dual 92mm radiator, temps were much better and took longer to hit 100c before throttling down to 90c.

@BradleySmith1985 3 ай бұрын

yes i would like to see how you build the light

@user-md8jw2dx2x 3 ай бұрын

In my case, I built my latest system for modding Skyrim/Nolvus. That mod took my MSI 4090 to 84 deg solid/100%. Clocks didn't like it. At all. So I went to a custom loop for the card. Block/pump/res and a monsta 360 w/nf12 industrial fans. Temps now under 50 deg under max load and clocks happy. Worth it for me. Much better. One fan will keep it cool on max speed. but 3 at lower speed is a much quieter experience.

@kenhoughton9519 3 ай бұрын

Would love to see a build of new lighting.

@sebastianperalta7 3 ай бұрын

Yes to the diy light box video

@randydean23 3 ай бұрын

I am super down for DIY light modifiers!

@lexman7002 3 ай бұрын

Yes please! We need video on soft box.

@FiveMissiles 3 ай бұрын

my aio has lasted 8 years so far. still chugging

@mastervorn6380 3 ай бұрын

I have the Corsair K70 MK.2. Got it new a few years ago for $80 USD on sale at Best Buy. Great Keyboard!

@devencherry8976 3 ай бұрын

I would definitely be interested in the build process for the soft box.. please if you’re able to, make a video about it.. Also, I love the videos.. I wanted to say, keep up the great work..

@gravef1ghter 3 ай бұрын

Yes, a DIY vid definitely!

@TheForce_Productions 3 ай бұрын

All in all and beyond those potential issues, it's never a good idea to mix water and electrical systems, and even more when the PC parts prices are like we have nowdays.

@Chef_-xv7ms 3 ай бұрын

Thank you Paul l have build many custom water cooled systems for about 15 years ! and loved the way you made this video! because l ended up with original graphics cooling/air cooling and original all in one CPU but the right power cooling for right CPU cooling it's easy to maintain so l think if you could please make more videos about this kind of videos would really help beginners or even mid seasoned PC builders! Thank you so much for very informative video once again!

@upgrade1373 3 ай бұрын

Here I am planning on switching everything over to air cooling so I don't have to worry about maintenance

@minskwatcher 3 ай бұрын

Dust removal is still kinda maintenance.

@josephmccartney5951 3 ай бұрын

@@minskwatcher hoesntly dust isnt tht big of a deal nowadays. maybe back in the early 90s and 2000s but now its not even a problem. bought my pc in 2016 and i dusted it out the first year and after that never again and still no problems. cant wait to drop 5k on my next pc once the new gpus come out RTX 5090 here i come

@TheRogueWolf 3 ай бұрын

I went to air cooling because I really didn't like that looming worry of something leaking.

@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars 3 ай бұрын

After a decade my Corsair closed loop finally failed so I went with an air cooler for the first time on the old Haswell 4770k overclocked to 4.4g. I'm happy I did because the tech has come a long way. A well chosen $25 cooler now easily handles the 110 watts or so the chip puts out. When I built this rig it would have taken a super larger and expensive air cooler to OC at good temps.

@fleurdewin7958 3 ай бұрын

@@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars If you have a 4770K, the first thing you should do is delid it and put liquid metal on the die. Temp will drop drastically. After all these years , the thermal poop that Intel put between the IHS and the die will dry out . Those are the dark years that Intel use thermal poop instead of using indium solder to cut cost.

@sgp9700 3 ай бұрын

Great video, as always. I totally agree with you that water cooling is okay, not a necessity, but nice to have if you want to spend the cash. I do have my complete system water cooled but I have enjoyed it and the performance over the past couple of years.

@johnh1353 3 ай бұрын

My main reason for getting AIO 4090 (msi suprim) was the physical size of the card .... the 3.75 slot air cooled cards just seem overboard and I needed access to my other full size pci slots. However the AIO does do a good job of cooling

@LifeStartsAtrpm-ru1xo 3 ай бұрын

Same for me with the a Inno3D RTX 4090. An aircooled card will not fit in my pc case and the temps stay very low, even in pathtraced Cp 2077.

@radupopescu4241 3 ай бұрын

I quit aio 6 years ago . Not missing them . Air is Good , silent , and waterproof

@pottingsoil723 3 ай бұрын

Did you have something leak? 😅

@ghomerhust 3 ай бұрын

i have 18 noctua fans (including the dual nhd-15s) in my single corsair 900D tower. dead quiet, ice cold, and it's not gonna stop working for AGES

@Azureskies01 3 ай бұрын

and last longer than 3-5 years AND will be able to go from build to build for 10+ years (AM3/4/5 is goated)

@valrath84 3 ай бұрын

ive literally never watercooled anything and never had a single overheating issue at all

@a-animal1206 3 ай бұрын

Only for top end stuff which 85% of PC playerbase does not have ..it's for aesthetics mostly

@hyperactvehuman 3 ай бұрын

I'm planning to buy a 16GB VRAM GPU. My current preference is NVidia and I always go for the 60series. Currently using 6GB 1060 with a 1440p monitor. My past GPUs are 4GB 960, and ~800MB 260 (till it broke). I am stating all this to give you context as I always go for a higher ram within my budget. For some reason, I think that higher ram will serve better in the long term. Whatever games I am playing right now are working well (racing games). So the Q is, is buying 4060 16GB is a good idea right now if I want to keep it for ~6years? Or should I wait another generation. Note that I used GTX 260 for ~6years, GTX 960 for ~7years, then 1060 for ~2years now (got it second hand).

@JohnTheMutt 3 ай бұрын

completely agree on the water cooling assessment. Only really worth it when overclocking, etc. the highest version cpu or gpu. So many excellent air coolers out there. I've had to change out a couple of aio water coolers already due to pump failure and moving to air cooling works fine and much more reliable imo.

@Lurch-Bot 3 ай бұрын

Totally agree 100% and even on the top tier hardware, it is merely optional. you can also underclock/undervolt if you want less noise. It is just generally good practice these days if you don't want your 500W CPU to run at 100C and burn itself up in a couple of years. You quite literally can't have it all. You can chose a statistically insignificant boost to benchmark performance and appearance or you can just have a solid gaming/streaming/productivity PC that will just work. Do some basic maintenance, tolerate slightly more noise (it isn't hard - I have extra sensitive hearing and I'm not quibbling over a couple dB) and have a reliable PC that will work the same in a decade as it does today, with few worries. I use cheap 87 key keyboards with genuine MX switches that cost around $70. They have been rock solid for several years. The only real improvement I could make to them would be PBT caps. They are heavy and stable keyboards. Even Cherry only charges around $90 for a wired mechanical RGB keyboard. Some of the companies building 'gaming keyboards' are really just taking consumers for a ride. They're building their own pale imitations of Cherry switches just to squeeze even more money out of the uninitiated.

@evillivesinside9189 3 ай бұрын

Heck yeah, let’s do the soft box video

@mtgcardzandreview2756 3 ай бұрын

I think when it comes to AIO's it's a personal choice and also who's going to maintain the computer. In particular graphics cards i think there are of course unique use case where it may not only make sense, but the case/build doesn't give you air cooled options that generally are available in general case designs.

@roberthartley8516 3 ай бұрын

I want to see you assemble that.

@abscess7476 3 ай бұрын

I have the corsair h100i closed loop cpu cooler. I have been running it for about 10yrs without having to do any maintenance. Cpu under full load sits at a average of 63 degrees.

@reigovahtre8418 3 ай бұрын

I have custom water cooling, not because it has high-end components, but because the computer works much quieter. And because of the gpu temperature too. 48c(now) vs 70c

@TdrSld 3 ай бұрын

This is my deal right now, My XFX Merc 310 7900 XT in a close case with good fans runs a 90C on the hot spot and 65-70C on the package (90C is its throttle limit and she walked a fine line with it). I have now got the system in an open wall mount case (Thermaltake p3 pro TG) as I have an Alphacool AIO coming for the GPU and the old case could only handle one 360 rad and my CPU AIO was already using it. Now that its in the new case it holds about 85-87C on the hot spot and 60 on the package. the AIO will help a ton in keeping it cool. A cool running chipset is a long life chipset and I don't plane on needing to upgrade for the next 4-5 years lol.

@chronometer9931 3 ай бұрын

That's not the way to go anymore if you care about the noise. You get a cheap fanless computer as your general use computer and if you want to game or do something that takes more performance then you just connect to the big PC remotely. Just keep the computer somewhere you can't hear it. Technology has come so far that doing it that way is obsolete

@chronometer9931 3 ай бұрын

You don't even need wires between the basic computer and the server. WiFi 5 is just good enough for 4k, but WiFi 6E and WiFi 7 would be even better. Moonlight+sunshine is da way

@mjc0961 3 ай бұрын

Ah yes, remote gaming. I love huge input latency. Seriously, I tried Steam's remote play once with both computers connected to the same switch and it was so laggy that even playing Ace Attorney was unbearable. Get outta here with your complete nonsense.

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 3 ай бұрын

Okay but WHY do you want to keep the temperature so low? There's no tangible benefit for it, the PC outputs the same amount of joules as heat regardless. Also watercooling setups can be noisy. For your PC at home, watercooling is mostly done as a hobby. Just for the fun of it. And it's okay to admit that

@sandervanhooij 3 ай бұрын

For the white keyboard Paul is using, there's simply a newer version of the K70 in white, which is widely available. I recently bought the K70 PRO WHITE. After careful consideration of lots of keyboards. And I'm very happy with it. I've been using it for around 3 weeks now. I upgraded from my old K65 TKL from 2017, to this one. Well worth the upgrade. I most definitely wouldnt want to go back. The K70 Pro White has PBT keycaps, so no ABS which wears. It has optical switches, which means a long lifespan of the switches. 150 mill clicks. And as was tested on Rtings, this keyboard has a response time of only 3,8 ms. Which is short, also compared to other top tier keyboards. As for how the keyboard feels in use. The keycaps have a bit of a rough texture, which is nice. Your fingers won't slip, even when sweaty. And this texture will remain because it's made from PBT plastic and not the cheaper ABS plastic. The total travel distance feels pleasant as well, and most notably it has a somewhat soft landing at the end of it's travel distance. Which is especially nice in use, for typing or gaming. It doesnt make much noise either, although it is still audible. Compared to the K65 it's a night and day difference in sound. The RGB is really well done, and it shines amazingly with the white keycaps, and the brushed aluminium top. Enough ways for the light to bounce, and stay bright. It has the option to save RGB-profiles on the onboard memory. With this, after having stored the profile on the onboard memory, the iCue software doesnt even need to be running on the pc anymore.

@JeremyWertheimerScience 3 ай бұрын

@7:44 I think you meant to type 1920 instead you typed 1980

@joncope9175 3 ай бұрын

I had a 1080ti FE that was loud as hell, and over time the blower fan wasn’t working well, with the temp hitting as high as 88C. So I used an NZXT G12 kit to add a 240mm AIO to the 1080ti. It worked great. Much quieter and temps were mid 50s to 60C under load.

@Varrisk_Khanaar 3 ай бұрын

Are we getting to the point of should we watercool the CPU with all these aircooler improvements

@tapioorankiaalto2457 3 ай бұрын

Yes on the light box!

@patrickdubois7692 3 ай бұрын

Great info as usual. 2 Very Quick Question: 1) How often should one replace the thermal paste? 2) For those of us that game and do video editing what's a good baseline build? (my current build is starting to stutter when I try to do anything else while working with Adobe (photo/video editing) ... Older machine Ryzen 9 3900x; Rtx 2070; 64gb ram

@behelith Ай бұрын

Back in 2010 I built a custom fully water cooled system with an EVGA X58 Classified motherboard, an Intel Core i7-980X CPU and two AMD Radeon HD 6970 graphics cards in crossfire setup. This system has been running every day for 14 years and is currently being used by one of my friends without any issues. The main reason why I'm building water cooled system is to have a silent system, with benefits being reliability and low maintenance. Of course I have overclocked the system but the benefits aren't really worth the cost in my opinion, especially these days since overclocking CPU's and CPU's us much more restricted than before. Maybe the pumps aren't as reliable as before, but that water cooling has been way more reliable than any air cooled system. To conclude: if you build a water cooled system do it for the extremely low noise properties.

@mistaboombosticyt 3 ай бұрын

you put 1980 instead of 1920 for the math problem. But it'd still be an even lower number.

@KallMeHobbs 3 ай бұрын

sure bud, give us the DIY Overhead Soft-Box Light video . . . i'll be here for it.

@beardedgaming3741 3 ай бұрын

i have a dual 360 hard lined loop on my 3080ti. i did this to fit a look i wanted, and to keep it quiet. its wall mounted as my media center pc in my living room so i wanted zero fan noise. i also have a 360 hard line on my 5600x as well. it has its uses but it takes time. this was a two day build that took band saws, drills, paint guns, welders, and 3d printing

@AndersHass 3 ай бұрын

Paul’s DIY hardware!

@darrylmasters5032 3 ай бұрын

I agree with spend the extra money getting higher spec parts if possible....imo the benefit of watercooling these days is silence on higher parts.

@POVwithRC 3 ай бұрын

I did watercooling for my 2080ti back in the before time. My current system GPU (6950) I couldn't care less about such things.

@bavelbenjamin 3 ай бұрын

I agree!

@goranstewart4726 3 ай бұрын

I enjoy building custom loops, mainly for the look and a quieter set up. As I refresh all hardware, at least every other generation, I’m not too concerned about cleaning, I replace everything including the case when I rebuild. My eldest son has a 14900K and RTX4090 custom loop whilst my youngest is on the 5800X3D with RTX3090, so he will get an upgrade when the AM5 and 5000 series come out.

@andrewpoptanich5284 3 ай бұрын

Hi Paul, always love a good probing. I've been thinking of upgrading to a OLED monitor (MSI MPG 321URX). The room my PC is in is fairly bright. How much will glare effect the monitor? I'm currently running a Pixio 329 VA 1440p 32" 165 hz.

@aberkae 3 ай бұрын

I have the suprim liquid 4090 at 3 ghz in an itx h210 case. All in one liquid 4090s are the only way to run an itx build oit of the box. I do have the 7800X3D with air cooled Noctua d15 that helps mitigate throttling.

@2002drumsonly 3 ай бұрын

Well said about water cooling. I am a technician and work on pumps. In time, pumps fail.

@dtectatl1 3 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for answering my question! I've been considering an aftermarket aio solution over a custom loop. A company called alphacool makes GPU aios that can replace the stock cooler.

@helnkellrfresh2deaf 3 ай бұрын

when it comes to purely performance, I agree that liquid cooling is largely impractical. However, when we factor in acoustics, I would argue that liquid cooling is in certain cases the only good option since you can achieve the same performance but at lower DB. I like my PCs to be whisper quiet, and on my desk. It is hard to achieve this with specific CPUs due to [surface area : power draw] ratio (5800x over here) even with water cooling. Without hampering performance you have to do some tweaks to get it performing well while being quiet (undervolting + limiting power so the clocks are the same but it runs cooler). With GPU is can be worse depending on your stock cooler. My 3080 ICX 2.0 (i think) could not run at max performance for more than a few min. and it was LOUD. In order to run it at max settings, i needed to liquid cool it. That also came with the added benefit of making run nearly silently. Given the option, I would air cool everything IF i could get the performance and acoustics of watercooling. Until then, ill be watercooling as needed.

@runiniscrazy 3 ай бұрын

Another scenario is if you enjoy tinkering with overclocking not for game performance but just to maximize and see how fast you can make your components run.

@NocturnalMantis 3 ай бұрын

Yes to the softbox!

@simontemplar8719 3 ай бұрын

I have two separate AIOs, and the GPU dumps heat out of the top of the case. It absolutely helps. The air cooled card heated everything inside the case because it's blowing hot air directly onto the motherboard and everything.

@KDarkmoon1 3 ай бұрын

I have a custom water cooling loop for my AMD Ryzen and RTX 3080TI based system. I use an Alphacool NexXxos Monsta 560mm radiator and Byski water blocks on my Ryzen and 3080Ti. I have the fans on the radiator and the PWM pump plugged into a powered fan hub that shares the PWM fan header for the CPU so that it varies the pump and fan speeds based upon CPU temp. It keeps my CPU in the upper 50s C under load and low 30s C when idle. My GPU core tops out in the upper 60s C while auto boosting to 2150 Mhz and the RAM is OC'd to 10,300 Mhz and stays in the low 70s C under load. It works amazingly well although was rather expensive when I built it. It cost nearly $1000 U.S. for the radiator, XSPC fittings, Alphacool quick-connects, tubing, XSPC pump and reservoir, and the two Byski water blocks. Despite the 8 fans on my radiator and two at the top of my case, my system is nearly silent because the fans are all quiet, low RPM fans.

@seethruhead7119 3 ай бұрын

been air cooling for a while now used to be watercooling only going back to watercooling soon tho first time in 10 years i think want a smaller quieter system

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@fracturedlife1393 3 ай бұрын

Eiswolf II on a nitro+ 69xt. Much fun at 450w+ It was £120 refurb, I originally ran it for a further 18 months on a 68xt. Now it's on a £360 69xt that was a "for parts or not working" (sounded like it was overheating, on block it coil whines like a banshee over 200fps/300w). Might top up soon as it has a fill port and they sell a bottle of their stuff.

@deweysellers1452 3 ай бұрын

I am wondering how you like the Corsair chair after you have used it for more than a year?

@bbailey446 3 ай бұрын

I built my first custom water cooled PC, and I built a custom case. It's currently Open air simply because I haven't cut the acrylic side panels. It has an Asus ROG STRIX B650E-I, AMD Ryzen 7 7700x, Asus ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, 32gb of DDR5-6000 CL30, a Silverstone SX1000-LPT 1000w SXF PSU, a 1Tb gen3 m.2 SSD for OS, and a 1Tb Crucial T700 gen5 SSD for games. As for the water cooling setup I have two Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 radiators with push/pull fans and a Quantum Velocity² DDC pump/res/block from EK. My GPU NEVER gets hot, but the CPU gets hot no matter how fast the pump and fans are running. Yes, I know that's how the CPU is designed to work. Now for the questions: How thick does the radiator need to be before you recommend to have the fans in push/pull? What is the minimum radiator size you recommend per overclocked component that it cools? What quiet fans would you recommend for having a good price with decent pressure/airflow? I'm currently using eight ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM, would you recommend an upgrade? I love just how silent my computer can be while staying very cool, that's why I water cooled. Oh, and the performance of this custom setup kicks any AIO I've ever used to the curb.

@ShermSpinner 3 ай бұрын

I dont think there's anything inherently wrong with liquid cooling, but with the current state of air coolers, it is really something that you buy because you *want* it, for one reason or another, rather than something you buy, because you *need* it. If you want to spend en extra 50-100 dollars or more on an AiO, because you highly value the aesthetics or being able to run the fans really slowly for nower noise, thats perfectly fine in my eyes - as long as you know that's where your money is going and can make that informed buying decision. On the other hand, I dont think its wrong to keep mentioning that liquid cooling is largely unnecessary from a technical standpoint, because the old believe that "air cooling is lowend and liquid cooling is just better" still holds strong in a lot of people. This seems to hold particularly true with products like the current AM5 CPUs that run hot by default despite not actually using that much power thus not actually requiring a lot of cooling to keep them under control. Lots of people just dont understand that the cooling you need correlates primarily to the power that goes through the CPU rather than the actual temperature it's runnning at. 7800X3D is probably the worst offender here - it caps out at like 90w, petty much any tiny, cheap air cooler can handle that, yet i've seen so, so many people thinking they absolutely need a 360 AiO for it because of a mixture of "AM5 runs really hot" and "Its one of the most powerful CPUs, it *must* need a ton of cooling, right?"

@Lurch-Bot 3 ай бұрын

These days, the CPU will just boost right up to the temp limit regardless of what cooler you put on it and gains for getting a couple hundred MHz extra on a modern CPU are negligible which is why I tune my CPUs myself. Intel can say it is ok to run at 100C all they want but that doesn't make it true. When testing a Haswell i7 recently, I noticed it just ran at 70C regardless of what cooler I put on it. They've been doing it for a long time but this last generation or two, both AMD and intel have lost the plot, choosing utterly suicidal temp limits and hitting them constantly as a matter of 'normal operation', lol. My hypothesis is that x86 is nearly dead and we'll all be using ARM CPUs in a few years. MS full on commitment to Windows on ARM is some clear evidence. I think they are basically just tuning your CPUs according to planned obsolescence at this point and your 14900K is only going to last 3-4 years running at 100C. There will also likely be noticeable performance degradation well before then if you run your CPU hard.

@Mistner 3 ай бұрын

@@Lurch-Bot lol my cpu *tries* to boost to temp limit (7950x3d) but never gets beyond 81°c in stress tests.

@petert3355 3 ай бұрын

The thing with air cooled systems is you need to think not only about the air cooler on your CPU/GPU but also you MUST think about the air flow of your case. Air coolers in a glass box just don't really work.

@Smedleydog1 3 ай бұрын

I have 2 computers. One is running a Corsair AIO on the CPU that has been through 2 upgrades, is about 6 years old and still cools just fine. The other has a custom loop cooling the CPU and GPU. It has been running, almost 24-7, for 3 years now. Neither have ever hiccupped. In the custom loop I run straight clear Primochill PC Ice coolant with no dyes. I keep thinking I might tear it down an check the water blocks, but my temps haven't gone up and I don't want to risk creating any leaks. the only real problem with liquid cooling your GPU is the expense of a water block.

@NickGuelker 3 ай бұрын

After doing a full water cooling loop a few years ago, and a dead AIO pump in another, older PC. I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking with air from now on. And staying away from custom at all costs. just to much headache.