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Is Hell's Paradise Badly Animated?

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Probably Pretentious

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@Efrika
@Efrika Жыл бұрын
Im a casual watcher. I was never impressed by the animation of the show but it never felt like it was bad or anything. People are used to get anime with high level production like csm or demon slayer nowadays so they expect every show to have the same budget and care
@ProbablyPretentious
@ProbablyPretentious Жыл бұрын
That's true, the amount of good looking shows has definitely increased a lot over the last half a decade or so, people expect too much these days
@imshubhajit
@imshubhajit Жыл бұрын
When CSM was airing, it was heavily criticised by the 10yr old online animation experts ..., Hence the comparison with CSM right now is just hypocrisy. People wanna hate on this because it's MAPPA. It's definitely not the best looking show rn for sure but it's not nowhere as bad looking as most of the shows that aired last year. Like he said... It's "Decent".
@mattecrystal6403
@mattecrystal6403 Жыл бұрын
Having an eye for animation is more often a curse then a blessing. Enjoy your casual viewership while you can.
@chickenabuser5474
@chickenabuser5474 Жыл бұрын
​@@imshubhajit I think Chainsaw Man looked amazing but it definitely killed the style manga had .
@belii3426
@belii3426 Жыл бұрын
​@@imshubhajit Nah people disliked CSM because of the CGI because they blindly believe CGI to always be bad.
@AJ-ry8qd
@AJ-ry8qd Жыл бұрын
They hate on it, because it's Mappa animating it
@ProbablyPretentious
@ProbablyPretentious Жыл бұрын
That is a common line of thinking, yes
@catlike9444
@catlike9444 Жыл бұрын
Yup lol popularity always gets the most hate for barley any reason 🤦
@highspeedrailenjoyer1045
@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I cant believe this show doesnt have insane character acting, every free lancer plus a few unpaid 16 year olds. 😠😠😠 I hate MAPPA, how can they make a show which looks above average.
@crustycorean7207
@crustycorean7207 Жыл бұрын
Istg they act like some of them paid money to watch it
@kamachitaksugifanboio9395
@kamachitaksugifanboio9395 Жыл бұрын
​@@ProbablyPretentious bro what do you think about the Wano animation?!??
@davidiobrando
@davidiobrando Жыл бұрын
I've seen ALOT of takes on Twitter, such as: Jigokuraku looks better than CSM or It is the worst looking show ever created. MY problem is with MAPPA, Jigokuraku COULD have looked infinitely better IF they'd released it much later, ever after JJK S2. If MAPPA had given this show the treatment of a big and important show then I could see HP becoming the next JJK of anime in terms of popularity, but their schelude simply doesn't allow that. Sadly, HP is just another random show under MAPPA's belt, for them it's nothing special.
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
How Mappa can release a Show later like it's easy? And yeah this time i think it is their mistake. The first pre animated trailer released a long time ago and it was a TWIN ENGINE projects (who are usually healthy with The schedules) but probably because The AP was so busy or The team were busy with kakegurui, so probably the production started much after that. That's why it has a tight schedule. It could've looked much better yeah. Mappa has a lot of connections that they could make CSM, JJK and hp look pretty good (although HP wasn't supposed to be a full sakuga Show because it's not humanly possible). Hopefully it's a listen for them. Also it had a 2 Split cours which is good. So at least they have a better schedule for part 2 (which i heard has a 6 months gap). Although it's not a good schedule but better definitely. And i hope AOT team also helps them after they finished with AOT then It will look much better in cour 2
@lazyworkingsloth
@lazyworkingsloth Жыл бұрын
I don’t really think that it could’ve been the next JJK due to being an already completed manga. I mean it has decent popularity compared to other shows this season. It’s not the most popular show but it’s still decently popular.
@BaneinaWasTaken
@BaneinaWasTaken Жыл бұрын
its the producers who control that tho not mappa
@JustAsh001
@JustAsh001 Жыл бұрын
It's not mappa who decides when to air the show
@ludovcdotcom
@ludovcdotcom Жыл бұрын
The compositing is possibly the most appealing element to me, I just really like the background blurs, the everpresent light, even the lighting in the room thing was quite cool and scenic. Some Kazuhiro Yamada character lighting would have helped the whole show but I definitely won't complain, especially when the characters usually have so little detail in this show
@nJudas
@nJudas Жыл бұрын
Same, its crazy to think that that of all things is being criticized. In my personal opinion its probably the best quality in the animation of HP maybe other than the detailed still shots.
@NineTnk
@NineTnk Жыл бұрын
100% because it’s MAPPA, so people need to shit on every flawed pixel. But here’s more interesting question, how much less popular this show would be if it’s look exactly the same like this, but made by some other random studio. Right now it’s the 3rd most popular this season after DS and Oshi. The manga is not THAT popular with 4 mil copies. I’d say the popularity will reduced by 50-60% if it’s by other studios.
@ProbablyPretentious
@ProbablyPretentious Жыл бұрын
I mean...black clover is pretty popular...
@XDGamer88
@XDGamer88 Жыл бұрын
@@ProbablyPretentious ofc it is First 12 episodes werw amazingly produced and studio pierrot ia famous It wpuldnt be famous if it was done by a studio like deen
@MiamiMAJIN
@MiamiMAJIN Жыл бұрын
@@ProbablyPretentious 💀
@crypussy
@crypussy Жыл бұрын
I think it would have roughly the same amount of popularity. I heard about this series mostly in the context of "the dark trio" with people saying it's similar to chainsaw man and jjk in some way that I still don't understand. On the advertising side I've seen very little actually, I don't think I even knew it was getting an anime until like 2 weeks before release, Inonly knew about it from fan hype. Of course, I'm not a Twitter user, so I don't know how those kinds of people think, but I did find myself a little underwhelmed with this Anime so far, bit 90% of that is from fans helping it up and only like 10 from the adaptation itsself.
@n0xturn_
@n0xturn_ Жыл бұрын
​@@XDGamer88wait, what the fuck is deen
@bluebarron22
@bluebarron22 Жыл бұрын
I think I saw the exact tweet your talking about. They took 4 screenshots from the recent ep and did not elaborate past “dear god the compositing is bad”. I was especially confused with the “am I in paradise” one because the bright light in my opinion wasn’t bad compositing it was just how the cut was storyboarded like the compositing was supposed to be blindingly bright.
@antguy314
@antguy314 Жыл бұрын
I love this manga and its sad that it doesnt get the CSM or JJK treatment because its just as good. So far the show has looked way better than i expected so im glad but the characters faces seem to be just a bit off a lot of the time
@BaneinaWasTaken
@BaneinaWasTaken Жыл бұрын
bro jjk has got rlly bad background animation
@antguy314
@antguy314 Жыл бұрын
@@BaneinaWasTaken true but the JJK 0 and S2 look good
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
​@@antguy314Something like this is not humanly possible. With a good schedule. It could've been very Solid but still not JJK and CSM (CSM is definitely not possible for another project) level. Because they dosen't have every big freelance Animators working on Something like JJK or CSM
@antguy314
@antguy314 Жыл бұрын
@@user-og6pb6dd5p I know it’s not possible I’m just saying the source material is deserving of at least JJK treatment
@nJudas
@nJudas Жыл бұрын
Is it though?!? Thats a subjective opinion but speaking objectively, hells paradise never hit jjk or csm lvl sales. Its objectively worse and in my personal opinion csm and jjk have a bit more depth. They both feel almost deceptively complex and I just dont get that from hells paradise. Though I did love the 1 big arc setup. Perfectly executed just you can only do so much when following 1 main plot line.
@deadsoon
@deadsoon Жыл бұрын
Honestly growing up watching lower quality animation, it's insane just how much the standard of the average watcher has risen. Thing is, not all studios or projects have the same resources or time to bring forth a masterpiece each time a series gets adapted. It's a very complicated bureaucratic process. And even without superb animation the story so far has been intriguing, so I'd say it's a decent job.
@OneAndOnlyWanted
@OneAndOnlyWanted Жыл бұрын
But even that is false. The average for Japanese animation has only been getting worse progressively every year. And jigo is a problem that mappa brought onto itself. Their management is crap and they overproduce to the point where even a seshimos line collapsed with chainsawman.
@Noctislolig
@Noctislolig Жыл бұрын
Is there any show that doesn't start controversy on twitter nowadays?
@ProbablyPretentious
@ProbablyPretentious Жыл бұрын
Is there anything that doesn't start controversy on Twitter nowadays?
@lebyandsmartiel318
@lebyandsmartiel318 Жыл бұрын
I think the show will have some great moments animation wise down the line given knowledge of the content. I personally think a K1RO cut would fit really well in certain fights down the line, but he may be occupied with JJK 2. The production has been fairly standard and as you said the comp is definitely not the worst thing ever. I do think that while ADs aren't a good way to judge production, having over 15+ individual people doing corrections for a show with simpler designs on the whole isn't always the best sign. I think the general Twitter population waits for a MAPPA Project to trip up so that they can attack it. It's hard not to say that without sounding like a d-rider, but apparently trying to be objective and think critically means you're a MAPPA defender and/or d-rider to some. It's always hard to pin why MAPPA Project's get the most controversy because the agendas and intentions people have when coming to give their thoughts on the matter differ so much. Basically, the online discourse is ass. Fuck.
@userK894
@userK894 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't think we will see k1ro on HP the last time we see him working outside of seshimo's project was on goh which was back in mid 2020
@bold9291
@bold9291 Жыл бұрын
​@@userK894 I'm still amazed that Seshimo can always get k1ro into Mappa works like what dirt does Seshimo has on k1ro lmao. He's always been on MAPPA projects for the past 3 years now. Not that I don't mind if it means k1ro can work on my favourite shows then I'm fine with that so long as he likes it as well.
@userK894
@userK894 Жыл бұрын
@@bold9291 that's why he is best aniP in the studio currently his connection r enough to bring a army of great freelancers on a project If he ever leaves mappa than owari daa manabu but it will not happen dude probably got the highest salary after manabu and P managers also got a whole dept under him
@niwaniwaniwa
@niwaniwaniwa Жыл бұрын
I always check the booru to see if he ever makes a cut
@lebyandsmartiel318
@lebyandsmartiel318 Жыл бұрын
@@niwaniwaniwa After studying his cuts a bit, which ones are his tends to become obvious. He hasn't had any work on show for the past couple months. Which many, such as myself, believe is because of his likely involvement in JJK S2 as one of the main action animators.
@simplyrohith2163
@simplyrohith2163 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad looking anime. But it's the above average anime every season has. While Heavenly Delusion is the anime you hardly see in a year
@lazyworkingsloth
@lazyworkingsloth Жыл бұрын
I still find it a little baffling that people are saying that Mappa ruined the manga. I mean it could’ve had better storyboards, composting, etc but it’s still pretty good for the schedule and most casuals won’t really notice too much.
@userK894
@userK894 Жыл бұрын
1:27 simply this as always Except for unnecessary blur and sometimes off model CD i don't have a problem with the production.. overall it's a decent prod with some stand out cuts and very good OSTs that's it Though i would have preferred madoka yagi as DoP rather than park
@carloscauan7967
@carloscauan7967 Жыл бұрын
What did Yagi do?
@userK894
@userK894 Жыл бұрын
@@carloscauan7967 DoP on ZLS Revenge and solo DoP on DDD which was really gorgeous most of the time
@highspeedrailenjoyer1045
@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 Жыл бұрын
@@userK894 I mean it was DDD with the roles reversed.
@userK894
@userK894 Жыл бұрын
@@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 yes i khow and it should have been like that even though park is the only veteran DoP in the studio he is kind of mid (schedule also didn't help much in this case)
@harman4321
@harman4321 Жыл бұрын
​@@userK894Teppei Ito better
@ghuff4694
@ghuff4694 Жыл бұрын
There have been some really well done scenes the first that comes to mind being the scene at the beach were gabimaru took out several prisoners and just stood there in the water with blood in his mouth, I’m not an animation expert or anything I just watch alot of anime and online animations but the colors, fluidity of the movement and the designs were all super pleasing to my eyes
@tashar02
@tashar02 Жыл бұрын
The production time period this got was quite concerning but I'm surprised the team behind Jigokuraku could do this much. I had very less expectation before but this is better than I expected but definitely not one of the best. Just the character models and compositing issue for me, otherwise it's decent. But oh boi, surely the production of this was hectic. You can really tell from the product if it's done with passion or barely finished on time in a rush. Nevertheless, good job for the effort from the staff team responsible for this.
@slippy47
@slippy47 Жыл бұрын
Director has the potential to do some amazing work but always gets stuck on a show that barely had a proper production time for the vision to be realized
@tashar02
@tashar02 Жыл бұрын
@@slippy47 True, that's very sad indeed. Recent anime industry is more or less like this everywhere.
@Echidonadonut69
@Echidonadonut69 Жыл бұрын
@@tashar02 wait what? Didn't they announce this anime like 2 years ago, So how do u think the productions is rushed?
@tashar02
@tashar02 Жыл бұрын
@@Echidonadonut69 Yes but that doesn't explain why they would release 2 pre-animated PVs if they got time? Attaching gigantic staff list that worked on that very specific PV isn't what anime productions do. There are episodes to credit them. I am open to receiving critics and pointing me out the truth, so will appreciate that. Thanks.
@Echidonadonut69
@Echidonadonut69 Жыл бұрын
@@tashar02 I see, thx for info
@harman4321
@harman4321 Жыл бұрын
TL;DR Jigokuraku is good Just as you mentioned in this video,high number of ADs doesn't necessarily shows how good or bad a production is,it's really annoying when people start saying production is bad because a show have high numbers of ADs(I know schedule isn't the best for jigo but still) same happened with Vinland season 2 where everyone and their mother started talking about production issues just because it had high number of ADs,it's a twitter thing at this point tbh and I don't give a shit about it. Hell's paradise is good not only visuals (yes it is better than most of the other seasonals except high profile shows) story is really good I'm hooked tbh.
@halfbloodrascal6712
@halfbloodrascal6712 Жыл бұрын
I love that you said "normal animation" that it's not as good looking as jujutsu kaisen or chainsaw man. I just think people are expecting a lot from mappa lately.
@copgonzo0
@copgonzo0 Жыл бұрын
Well ,Hello there. Happy to see video about Jigo. Thank YOU.
@andrew4446
@andrew4446 Жыл бұрын
I like how everyone is like "mappa needs to let their animators rest" but then will be like "whoa, better not drop the quality on us mappa, We would be *Very* upset"
@OK-69420
@OK-69420 Жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with the show is that there is almost no shading, I loved everything else
@najminaklukis3421
@najminaklukis3421 Жыл бұрын
agree!! they want to make the paradise looks bright but what they did backfires and makes the character looks flat instead.
@guitarhero640
@guitarhero640 Жыл бұрын
Hell's Paradise adaptation is fine... and that's what I don't really like about it. I like the manga more than CSM & JJK so seeing it get just a decent adaptation feels bad 😭😭
@highspeedrailenjoyer1045
@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 Жыл бұрын
As a manga reader, the adaptation is fine. At least there are standout moments in each episode, like the fight on the river in ep 2(outdoing the incredible manga panel), also ep 3 was adapted really well overall.
@xenzzyyx2164
@xenzzyyx2164 Жыл бұрын
As always good and interesting. 🔥
@otsu3011
@otsu3011 Жыл бұрын
You should talk about tengoku daimakyou animation someday
@ProbablyPretentious
@ProbablyPretentious Жыл бұрын
I will lol
@otsu3011
@otsu3011 Жыл бұрын
@@ProbablyPretentious nice!
@TheOGComfyBoy
@TheOGComfyBoy Жыл бұрын
honestly, who even cares about the details in animation?? just watch the show, enjoy the story that its telling, it doesnt have to be movie level animation
@sabinakoka7967
@sabinakoka7967 Жыл бұрын
Me being a 25+ year anime fans "since I was a kid" not having any problems with normal looking shows coz I remember and still watch many 80s 90s anime
@lorenzobarducci8353
@lorenzobarducci8353 Жыл бұрын
I've seen this point raised a lot in that discussion on Twitter and i genuinely don't see the point, do you realize most popular 80s and 90s anime actually had top tier animation right? Like, i don't mean "for their time", but often compared to modern ones too
@lorenzorizzi864
@lorenzorizzi864 Жыл бұрын
The only problem in jigo compositing is that (like sadly the 80% of modern Anime) randomly and heavily uses light diffusion filter, that if not used on a source of light (in particular huge ones) it will create as I like to call it :" the 70s TV effect" vedi making everything look grainy and like it was filmed in 580p or less
@CB23fgh
@CB23fgh Жыл бұрын
Hell was never a paradise. Most terrifying places we must not fall to but humanity choose different path leads to death. Many people went there.
@zawarudo6287
@zawarudo6287 Жыл бұрын
The animation was good in the first 2 episodes, episode 3 and 4 were averagely good just not great. It'll probably be really good in later episodes.
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
I personally think EP 3 looked the best in my opinion
@dediualex3554
@dediualex3554 Жыл бұрын
Oh hell nah
@Mr.BluePants
@Mr.BluePants Жыл бұрын
I feel like you did a great job with this breakdown and what you said aligned to a tea with my thoughts about it as well. 👍 A lot of people, even myself, got worried about the show after all the news that had been coming out about it prior to release, such as the preanimated (or partially preanimated) trailers very close to air day, BUT I GOTTA SAY, so far so good. There are a few less polished scenes here and there, but overall I'd agree people are exaggerating. Granted we're only 4 episodes in and IF the anime is to show noticeable signs of melting that might be moreso towards the final third or quarter of this cour I guess? I hope not tho. 🙏 Btw, totally unrelated, curious to hear your thoughts about the Bleach TYBW cour 2 trailer that's supposedly going to drop May 7. Even as a fan, I agree with a lot of the criticisms you had about cour 1, but it seems like this time we'll see improvements if we're to take the staff's comments seriously, which is honestly A MUST, given how much more action focused cour 2 will be, with every single episode pretty much covering a different fight (and very important ones at that). Hopefully you'll enjoy it more next time and I'll enjoy it even more as well. 🙏
@NarutoUzumaki-zp2cf
@NarutoUzumaki-zp2cf Жыл бұрын
Yeah i saw too many PPL complain abt Hell's paradise composition in twt and they dont even know what it actually means , PPL just want to shit on mappa for something or other
@kenmaru777
@kenmaru777 Жыл бұрын
Still better story than KnY character development, greatly written motivation, empathy for characters goals, MC has a WIFE
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
Yet another great manga recommendation. I feel like half of the time the mangas are just better, because of how much crunch these animators have. I mean there’s also crunch in manga, but it tends to be more consistent. Fine animation doesn’t cut it when I have a lot of classics to catch up on.
@catlike9444
@catlike9444 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the cg fish in Swordsmith village ep 3. I know you're not making any videos of demon slayer because of aniplex. But so many people been complaining saying the cg fish monster in ep 3 is berserk or ex arm level bad which imo is not even close to that.
@ProbablyPretentious
@ProbablyPretentious Жыл бұрын
I mean, tbh it's doesn't look good, it's not the worst thing in the world, but it's not good 3d, the most annoying thing about that is the fact that it didn't need to be 3d, surely that fish wasn't too difficult to draw, it feels unnecessary...
@catlike9444
@catlike9444 Жыл бұрын
@Probably Pretentious I think the cg was on purpose to make the fish look more ugly and otherworldly in nature since that kinda gyokko nature. It basically using low level cgi to their average to make something look weird for the sake of it.
@highspeedrailenjoyer1045
@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 Жыл бұрын
@@catlike9444 its just a fish
@catlike9444
@catlike9444 Жыл бұрын
@@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 made by gyokko blood art
@highspeedrailenjoyer1045
@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 Жыл бұрын
@@catlike9444 oh, I forgot that. Still modelling a 3d fish is spending time watching paint dry, it isnt too necesarry.
@Dephlazgmatus
@Dephlazgmatus Жыл бұрын
"Animetwt finding out about compositing was a mistake" - truer words have never been spoken! I myself enjoy every episode of Jigokuraku despite its flaws, because it still looks much better than I expected due to anitwt.
@gamerboyrax2222
@gamerboyrax2222 Жыл бұрын
Well can we get a video on Vinland saga? And I do think Hell's paradise is fairly good looking it's just that bots see mappa and bring up their keyboards ☠️
@jaycourtel4478
@jaycourtel4478 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s because chronically online twitter users and hardcore manga readers have actual brain rot. I’m loving Hell’s Paradise, favorite show this season.
@gamerboyrax2222
@gamerboyrax2222 Жыл бұрын
@@jaycourtel4478 that's what matters bro you enjoying enjoy I get it people wanted it to be as impressive as csm but these brain bugger don't understand csm was a passion project and Hell's paradise is given to them with stupid deadlines 🥹 and given the time it looks good Just like aot also got bad deadlines and still locked good mappa can handle it's shit and don't need some random 18y/o Twitter edge lord to tell them how to handle their shit 🤣🤣
@MahiMahi-yu5jo
@MahiMahi-yu5jo Жыл бұрын
And these same 'critics' cry over animators being overworked... I stated once before that i would watch this show as long as it did not have Record of Ragnarok level animation. Well, I watched it and loved it. Though Heavenly Delusion is turning out to be my favourite this season
@BoobaMilkTea
@BoobaMilkTea Жыл бұрын
I think it's not wrong to expect more. Especially the compositing.
@maximnaumov11
@maximnaumov11 Жыл бұрын
I think the blur is there to make the viewer focus on character expressions, rather than on the overwhelming amount of detail the backgrounds would have otherwise. You could say that in a detail heavy scene it would be the less detailed character faces that would attract attention, but I personally have no issue with the blurs. Also, speaking of Season 3 Part 2, I am failing to see how the blue-green shade is an issue. I think it does a great job at setting the tone of what’s going on on the screen during the first half, while during the second half it is heavily contrasted by the yellow-orange-brown shade. The compositing aids the show by splitting it into 2 halves with contrasting colours, the same way the story splits the show into two halves with different tones. I see it as a benefit, rather than a drawback. Maybe its just me, idk.
@xxcrossbonesxx84
@xxcrossbonesxx84 Жыл бұрын
I think it was a pretty good I liked it, I’ve been reading the manga and love the manga so I’m sure they’ll up it later on in the anime
@samacvuk
@samacvuk Жыл бұрын
Looks good on a frame by frame basis
@ayushmanprasad
@ayushmanprasad Жыл бұрын
I do like Hells paradise but god i just want an adaption of orokamonogatari or just a good new Shaft anime
@pcvl9637
@pcvl9637 Жыл бұрын
They only got 8 months so this is pretty good
@shivamchaudhary2714
@shivamchaudhary2714 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for your review on this show.........And here it is ❤❤❤❤
@drrpy7712
@drrpy7712 Жыл бұрын
still love and will watch the show regardless
@badpiggy4177
@badpiggy4177 Жыл бұрын
Was expecting a roast and instead got facts and logic. W video
@HuellBabineaux909
@HuellBabineaux909 Жыл бұрын
An offropic, do you guys think mappa will release aot part 3 blu ray after it ends or maybe they will split it in two blu rays?
@sandeepansinha
@sandeepansinha Жыл бұрын
the manga looked soo good. but the anime didn't do it justice. still i watch it
@u_se_l_e_ss3869
@u_se_l_e_ss3869 Жыл бұрын
my issue with the show is not the animation, its the colors. for show that prides itself on the dissonance of a beautiful paradise with murderous monsters, everything looks so dull and muddy. so many colorful flowers everywhere but they still look dull. and its sad that the opening visuals are so vibrant but the actual show isnt
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
The compositing basically
@User--1
@User--1 Жыл бұрын
Its just a normal anime. We've been spoiled with amazing animation from big series and i expected something just as good as Jjk and csm with Jigokuraku. but its fine cuz i like the story and plot
@cabbe111
@cabbe111 Жыл бұрын
this is very fun interesting watyching ngl u deserve more followers and views tbh
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
Watch his videos. They are Really good
@frizen9328
@frizen9328 Жыл бұрын
What is the next production role you think twitter users will discover and then grossly not understand? lol
@albatrosshanging
@albatrosshanging Жыл бұрын
It's decent, but that's the problem. A lot of people love the Jigokuraku manga(including me) and the story is also being categorized among the Dark 3 Shonen of our current era so a lot of people had some high expectations out of it. They feel let down whenever animation quality in Jigokuraku drops because after Mappa's groundbreaking successes it doesn't feel that they're taking the adaptation seriously which feels like a betrayal to longtime Jigokuraku fans who were excited for a Mappa adaptation.
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
Wtf? Animators in anime industry die from overwork. They don't take the project seriously? It's because of terrible schedule
@MortonCammar
@MortonCammar Жыл бұрын
I thought it looked good to be honest. I'm surprised anyone has this criticism.
@chapri_from_chapra5443
@chapri_from_chapra5443 Жыл бұрын
lol twitter was having a ball on the CG fish od DSs3ep3 if that was bad cgi Idk what good is
@suzuhayyamane7447
@suzuhayyamane7447 Жыл бұрын
Did you noitce that the giants plants that appears in epispde 3,4 look very simmilar to aot season 1 titans?
@Savage-nv6wr
@Savage-nv6wr Жыл бұрын
I still feel Ufotable should have taken this project ! It just doesn't feel right with Mappa !
@Sylvenoff
@Sylvenoff Жыл бұрын
this anime pretty well animated i would say i cant animate that well but shidd
@mattecrystal6403
@mattecrystal6403 Жыл бұрын
I think there are two main reasons for people calling out the animation. 1. The trailer for the show looked really good and really gave the impression that the show would be at or near the quality of other recent mappa hits. I was quite surprised how much worse overall animation quality seemed when compared with the trailer. I must say that trailer was expertly cut to give that perception. (which is high praise from me because I'm of the opinion that most anime trailers are very poor even if the show and animation quality are above average) 2. The reason people might be more outspoken about this shows animation is because people who do attribute a higher level of importance to animation are more likely to gravitate to this show due to the trailer and studio behind it. It's not that the show's animation is being more harshly judged per say. It's more likely audience contains a higher percent of harsh judges when compared to other anime. People who didn't judge some of those other shows because they deemed them too low quality to even bother watching.
@prabhakarmistry6497
@prabhakarmistry6497 Жыл бұрын
There are yet to come the trailer's stand out cuts. So wait for it
@mattecrystal6403
@mattecrystal6403 Жыл бұрын
​@@prabhakarmistry6497 Yeah I only watched the trailer once so don't remember all the cuts. If there are good scenes that haven't been shown yet then that could also explain it to some degree. But stillI stand by it was edited surprisingly well to give the idea of a higher quality product. For instance when gabimaru is on the pile of bodies and blows out smoke. It looks really well done and like the end of a really well animated action scene. But in the show really that 1 second scene was all we really saw and it was almost static. But yeah I still have hope for future episodes. I feel like they might be doing the higher amount of low quality animation in order to save up for an episode with much higher animation. Which personally I dislike would prefer consistent high animation even if peak animation is ultimalty lower. But still if they do that then at least we have something to look forward too.
@prabhakarmistry6497
@prabhakarmistry6497 Жыл бұрын
@@mattecrystal6403 90% of anime and many main stream anime like mha ,fire force did this kind of thing to save the best for the last so wait for it, I sure there will be some sakunga filled episode at the end of season
@patrickpatrick3935
@patrickpatrick3935 Жыл бұрын
today's episode's animation was significantly worse than the previous
@bungubongo
@bungubongo Жыл бұрын
Everyone's a critic
@d_d1721
@d_d1721 Жыл бұрын
It's nicely animated. I don't know what the hell the "fans" are hoping for
@xObscureDarkness
@xObscureDarkness Жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a better experience than the manga but it wasn’t so I’ll just reread the manga if I want to revisit the story. Not much point watching stuff like this or like one punch season 2 when it’s worse than the source material
@critterchamber
@critterchamber Жыл бұрын
9:54 Perfection
@kenmaru777
@kenmaru777 Жыл бұрын
I just hope they will have mor etime for BluRay changes
@ravencl
@ravencl 6 ай бұрын
I think a lot of people care because hells paradise was supposed to be in the new trio with JJK and CSM, instead of just another production
@tikeMyson535
@tikeMyson535 Жыл бұрын
This is the type of animation i love
@Lighn
@Lighn Жыл бұрын
looks good for me. i like it.
@HeyNighT_Art
@HeyNighT_Art Жыл бұрын
As a beginner animator, the thing that strike me off as jarring to me is their art style constantly changing. All the time. People who are normal anime watchers may not notice it, but for us artist's and beginner animators we could notice it very easily, but their VFX are covering it up for me. Over all I would give them 7.5/10. Not terrible, but also not amazing. To me, as long as it doesn't effect the story I'm alright with it.
@Jaykurosakii
@Jaykurosakii Жыл бұрын
I think the animation is pretty accurate compared to the manga. It doesn’t dramatically enhance the source material like Ufotable does with Demon Slayer or Wit / Mappa did with AoT, but it’s still good to me.
@animzotic6672
@animzotic6672 Жыл бұрын
8:09 i honestly really like the blue green shade in season 3 of attack on titan
@gerdanbombales
@gerdanbombales Жыл бұрын
People just too much complaining, its not bad at all. They expect Ufotable quality in all animes now.
@miyousjz4940
@miyousjz4940 Жыл бұрын
Just uninstall Twitter guys It’s not worth it
@kxgr9522
@kxgr9522 Жыл бұрын
Eh they’re definitely having production issues I’d rather them holding back in these first few episodes and go hard when the Tensen show up since that’s really when the manga gets good People who complain are internet people therefore they aren’t particularly clever and just want something to complain about
@gamerboyrax2222
@gamerboyrax2222 Жыл бұрын
I do want to ask why scenes are dimmed? Is it necessary or just a stupid thing?
@ProbablyPretentious
@ProbablyPretentious Жыл бұрын
It's there to prevent seizures and stuff, japanese TV laws have been very strict since that one pokémon episode (which upon further research was probably not at fault) so the TV station decides that after the studio submits the episode
@rapidfireplayz
@rapidfireplayz Жыл бұрын
Great video, and I agree for the most part. Only thing I don't agree on is the comment that JJK looked unappealing. In a way, yes it is unappealing, but I feel it's done that way to fuel the story and environment. Therefore, I feel that that environment is appealing and works perfectly for the story. I mean, I don't expect a vibrant ecosystem in a story about sorcerers and a war of good and bad. Either way, I can't wait to watch hell's paradise. I had been backed up with finishing college finals/projects, but I'm now done and finally have time.
@johngapud9934
@johngapud9934 Жыл бұрын
I think the blur refers to the fog that's involved in the story. I'm not knowledgable with this stuffs just my 2 cents.
@MahiMahi-yu5jo
@MahiMahi-yu5jo Жыл бұрын
8:30 I think this was a deliberate choice. Considering the place they are in, it is supposed to seem off-putting and alien and should be really annoying to our eyes.
@_ash86_
@_ash86_ Жыл бұрын
you just earned a subscriber.
@anantbedi5627
@anantbedi5627 Жыл бұрын
the thing is the insland is shown in the morning. just have to wait until the tensen arc to see how good it will look at night time
@seed2338
@seed2338 Жыл бұрын
I thought it looked good, i really liked it
@seya_2
@seya_2 Жыл бұрын
Good Enough. Goodnight 👍
@cozminuu
@cozminuu Жыл бұрын
Next Dr. Stone New World animation Breakdown !
@HoshinoAquamarine7777
@HoshinoAquamarine7777 Жыл бұрын
i think this animation fits the anime perfectly, i never had a feeling that it lacked something or that something was off. Overall i am happy with this adaptation
@Barbruhhhh
@Barbruhhhh Жыл бұрын
For me it was the flow of the story and then the animation. I was hyped for the anime because I loved the character design especially the blind samurai looked awesome. The dead guy on a boat with flowers also looked mysterious and had me wanting for more but oh boy I didn’t like gabimaru the protagonist at all. I still watched because it’s an ongoing anime maybe the story would get better…but I don’t like sagiri now😂. The cuts in some episodes feel weird makes me feel like they skipped a lot from manga but I don’t know 😅. Maybe I will try again later to finish it.
@samwingo3116
@samwingo3116 Жыл бұрын
I think it looks bad because it don't look like movie, its not cinematic experience. And I hope there will be something in story that will change it. Honestly I like story idea
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
What?
@lucaspoon4202
@lucaspoon4202 Жыл бұрын
The animation is well done actually and is consistently good. It's just some of the drawings are a bit sloppy at times. I mean it's nothing that hasn't been seen before in anime. I do wonder tho how drawings could end up sloppy. I guess it happens when animators are rushed. Are they just so rushed that they can't afford to even make sure they're drawing turns out well? I'm sure it's not a matter of skill... If that's how rushed they are then welp all I can say is I feel bad for them and that MAPPA needs to slow the fuck down. Chainsaw Man AOT Vinland Saga s2 Hells Paradise One Punch Man s3 If u ask me this is too many HIGH RISK projects... I'm not gonna be one of those ppl who'll use the mistreated animators as a shield against all criticism to the shows cuz bad drawings are bad drawings. Same with bad animation.. But I rlly do think MAPPA should be taking on less. I'm particularly worried about Chainsaw Man as it's the one I care about most and the one which I feel will be the most strenuous project. Like, it'll literally be game changing for anime forever if adapted well... I mean I can accept that something like the gun devil will probs be fully cgi, but the last thing I'll want is for Reze and Pochita form to be cg at all times or for the typhoon devil to be like 5 fps. I don't want Denji and Beam's combo attacks to look sloppy. I want the Gun fiend fight to be well directed and animated for max emotional impact and immersion. Same with hell. I just don't want this stuff to look like corners were being cut because I feel that any of that at all will absolutely ruin some of these scenes. Hells Paradise does look above average. So do all the animes MAPPA is doing rn. But I'm serious, CSM s2 legit has some scenes that will be effectively ruined by receiving "above average" treatment.
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
5 fps💀, above average 💀. Yeah fucking CSM, JJK, VS and AOT part 3 is above average. Genius a studio big like this don't only have one team that is chained to their chairs and work on all of these shows. Are you Really just putting down a Show with this Quality and a shit ton of Character Animation down to just sloppy CGI? Do you Know What well directed is? Every episode had great shot composition and ambitious shots. Specially with episode 8. Yeah hundreds of typical adaptations are better directed than an industry Wide passion project like CSM.
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
And only Mappa is the bad Guy here as all Twitter users say. Like a studio can always have control over the schedule. While cloverworks and A-1 are a much Smaller studio and doing more than Mappa. Specially cloverworks when all of their shows look great because they of their incredible connections. They are getting fucked by ANIPLEX. And also other studios are not sunshine and Rainbows 💀. Production committees usually don't give enough time to studios. Try to get some Knowledge about it bruh. The (above average) treatment is fucking hilarious
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
And also where tf one punch man season 3 came from? It isn't confirmed
@catlike9444
@catlike9444 Жыл бұрын
It not bad it's just limited for a mappa anime. Hopefully the upcoming episode improves
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
(Mappa anime) is a non-existing Standard. They are not that different from The industry. They have good production schedules to bad. It's like people that work on Mappa has a super Power or Something. The schedule is very tight, so it's good (they are trying their best for this Show to not crash). Hopefully cour 2 won't suffer this much at least. It has a 6 months gap which is good
@catlike9444
@catlike9444 Жыл бұрын
​@A1000 I mean I understand that and mappa at the end of the day is just a normal but overproduction studio but you expect a little bit more appreciation given to hell paradise (which is a popular dark shounen) given how willy mappa wants to accept many shounen titles, not to say their bad but I think it would have been better for both the studio and hell paradise if either A it went to a different studio or B accepted after projects like aot are finished or C as you say a better schedule.
@catlike9444
@catlike9444 Жыл бұрын
@@yname I know production committee have control over schedules in projects but I say this again as I said many many times. Accept so many projects all with rough schedules isn't helping mappa animators. It's a bad combination of overproduction and bad schedules.
@catlike9444
@catlike9444 Жыл бұрын
@@yname I undserstand that fact but as I said accepting more in a short time frame is not helping the problem it just making things worse for the industry.
@catlike9444
@catlike9444 Жыл бұрын
@@yname so what your saying is no matter what, the anime industry is kinda fucked.
@dhruv355
@dhruv355 Жыл бұрын
Nice review btw , I'll watch your old videos too
@chromafire
@chromafire Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agreed. It's an average to above average production. It gets the animation right which is acceptable knowing the nature of its production. The compositing is also noticeably flawed but it's nothing to make a fuss about. Extra blur making the characters seem out of place, usage of weird green/yellowish cokro filters are the biggest issue. Sometimes the CG movements also don't blend in with the 2D characters in the foreground. But all of these are just pretty normal in most anime these days. So there's nothing too bad that people have to brand it as something horrendous if I'm being honest. The only reason a section of the sakuga community hates the production quality of Jigokuraku is because of Manabu Otsuka while handing the job to Makita gave people hopes of an ambitious project which Jigokuraku is far from being.
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
Because of terrible schedule
@kobbyjuiceofficial
@kobbyjuiceofficial Жыл бұрын
It's fine
@menace2society759
@menace2society759 Жыл бұрын
it just looks like an anime... nothing new nothing bad just an anime
@Benkei00
@Benkei00 Жыл бұрын
I have one problem with this anime and it's not animation. Why there are so many offscreen fights and it's getting little bit annoying.
@justsomegirlwithoutamustach
@justsomegirlwithoutamustach Жыл бұрын
The real problem with Hell's Paradise is that there isn't really one, in the last couple years we've been spoiled by great looking anime with great compositing, from Ufotable to Mappa the compositing in the last couple years has been very impressive, so even though the show is animated well, it doesn't look like JJK or CSM so people go wild, can't wait for the inevitable Mappa One Punch Man drama in the near future
@mangopie7602
@mangopie7602 Жыл бұрын
The benefits of having a simple mind is not oogling at the smallest mistakes and just going cool scene = dopamine
@Zuzucchini-
@Zuzucchini- Жыл бұрын
It's still amazing considering that Mappa has picked up so many animes recently. People really have to take in account that the animators are real people too lmao
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
Not how it works. Different teams for different projects. And Mappa has a lot of connections with The industry. So this much animes is good for them. Although jigo was too much. The staff for it was busy and the production started much after that pre animated trailer. So only jigo was a mistake. But i hope the Quality will be better for the Second part. It's still decent, that's for sure
@ddaisze8543
@ddaisze8543 Жыл бұрын
feel like the best animation will come at the end of the season when gabimaru has his first big moment
@just_a_person9583
@just_a_person9583 Жыл бұрын
The animation is already there, it's excellent.
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
​@@just_a_person9583it's decent at best. It has its moments in every episode. It has a very tight schedule so thankfully it didn't crashed like nier
@just_a_person9583
@just_a_person9583 Жыл бұрын
@@user-og6pb6dd5p I guess the new "good" animation has to be demon slayer/fate quality
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
@@just_a_person9583 it can't because It has a very tight schedule. So it's decent. Also demon slayer for the Most part is Limited and uses mouth flaps. Also for like first 4 or 5 episodes. There were very little movement. Because they are saving it for the other episodes. Why? Because The schedule is average to above average and ufo is working on other projects too (they are making a season every one year and one or two months)
@user-og6pb6dd5p
@user-og6pb6dd5p Жыл бұрын
@@just_a_person9583 it can't because It has a very tight schedule. So it's decent. Also demon slayer for the Most part is Limited and uses mouth flaps. Also for like first 4 or 5 episodes. There were very little movement. Because they are saving it for the other episodes. Why? Because The schedule is average to above average and ufo is working on other projects too (they are making a season every one year and one or two months)
@sandeepansinha
@sandeepansinha Жыл бұрын
but if they make the choreography better like jjk it will be really good
@king-shivam
@king-shivam Жыл бұрын
Why people are hating the animation of Hell's paraside?, i think it looks beautiful
@elmokoko1612
@elmokoko1612 Жыл бұрын
the way you said “schedule” threw me off so hard😭.
@ProbablyPretentious
@ProbablyPretentious Жыл бұрын
Why? Somebody else commented a similar thing, that's the way you pronounce the word in British English, is that your problem?
@arandomguyontheinternet5020
@arandomguyontheinternet5020 Жыл бұрын
If anime critics were actually a casual viewer. I love it
@alterego9038
@alterego9038 Жыл бұрын
Does it?
@ProbablyPretentious
@ProbablyPretentious Жыл бұрын
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