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Is It Okay to Retire with a Mortgage?

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@hdsensing
@hdsensing Ай бұрын
I am a Ramsey fan and love the idea of paying off the house before retirement. HOWEVER, I have a 2.7% interest rate on my house. I have stopped paying additional principal on it because it is such a low rate. I am now using the extra to top off my Roth 401k.
@MikeLOldham
@MikeLOldham Ай бұрын
Ramsey is alright if you excuse his immoralities and lack of basic math skills.
@bronweston3025
@bronweston3025 Ай бұрын
⁠his hubris is a bit off-putting too.
@CobaltLobster
@CobaltLobster Ай бұрын
Same boat. Did a VA loan and refi'ed down to 2.125%. NO WAY I'm paying this off except with the life insurance policy payout.... which is by definition not my problem anymore.
@robingow7276
@robingow7276 4 күн бұрын
Why not just be debt free? Then use the house payment to invest without having a debt?
@Random-ld6wg
@Random-ld6wg Ай бұрын
i am retired for 3 yrs this month. i still have 39 months left on my 15 yr 2.75% mortgage. i didn't pay it off earlier, though i could have. my payment was only 16% of my monthly draw at the onset of my reirement and this was using a 3% withdrawal rate it is even a lower percentage now with adjustments in my draw rate. as part of my portfolio the left over principal is earning way more than 2.75%. if i paid it off i would just spend the money elsewhere so it's a form of forced scarcity even in retirement.
@AdamWright8fool
@AdamWright8fool 24 күн бұрын
I'm now avoiding new purchases to avoid slipping into a bear trap. However, I'd like to know where the best investment opportunities are during a downturn. My goal is to retire comfortably on around $1.2 million.
@CoreyLloydo
@CoreyLloydo 24 күн бұрын
Wishing you luck! The key to a happy retirement is to live the life you choose, if you have a certain amount in mind for your retirement, it is only appropriate to work with a knowledgeable advisor to make plans.
@RhysHuntoffice
@RhysHuntoffice 24 күн бұрын
I concur that guidance should not be disregarded but rather followed. I remember a few summers ago, not long after my horrible divorce, I was in dire need of advise on investments to keep my head above water. Fortunately, I met someone with grit who greatly assisted me in growing my reserve, which despite inflation has increased from $360k to about seven figures now.
@ArchieJohnson5h
@ArchieJohnson5h 24 күн бұрын
nice gains there! Please share your advisor's info with me. Due to my increased income from work, I'm thinking about investing in stocks and other assets that will enable me to gradually build wealth.
@RhysHuntoffice
@RhysHuntoffice 24 күн бұрын
Leah Foster Alderman is the licensed expert I use. Just look up the name. You would discover the necessary information to deal with a correspondence to schedule an appointment
@ArchieJohnson5h
@ArchieJohnson5h 24 күн бұрын
Wow, I just Googled her whole name and found her platform. Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention, I will definitely get in touch with her.
@jakealberda4487
@jakealberda4487 Ай бұрын
Phew.... Bo is SO excited again. Glad he got over only being excited 😂
@alexpietsch7997
@alexpietsch7997 Ай бұрын
28:50 Brian has a bigger army of dollar bills in his pockets than the average person has in liquid assets
@hulenbryant5637
@hulenbryant5637 Ай бұрын
You can't eat equity. I'm not taking 200K from my investments that earn around 10%. Plus, half my house note is insurance and taxes, so even paying off that balance doesn't make the payment go away.
@RyanBrady113
@RyanBrady113 Ай бұрын
Great point! Thanks for the food for thought
@caseyrichards3212
@caseyrichards3212 Ай бұрын
I agree, If someone would loan me money at 3.5% right now I would take any amount and throw it into investments. How is a mortgage any different.
@CruisingwithLocstar
@CruisingwithLocstar Ай бұрын
Todays episode was so fun. I love the light hearted banter
@jayhimes5016
@jayhimes5016 Ай бұрын
Re: student loans - Also, many (and all federal) student loans are insured against death and disability, most mortgages are not. There are a number of loan forgiveness programs for federal student loans as well as income sensitive repayment options, but not for mortgages. I would want to preserve access to those features on that balance rather than rolling student loan balances into a mortgage.
@alwaysemilia
@alwaysemilia Ай бұрын
Same! I think this is a generally overlooked aspect. If a tragedy happened, your SO wouldn’t be burdened with your student loans. There are also options to reduce payments if you lose your job. The security with fed student loans is pretty much the best you’re going to get.
@queson52
@queson52 Ай бұрын
A 2.5% mortgage isnt a debt. Its a gift.
@CobaltLobster
@CobaltLobster Ай бұрын
I'll absolutely be retiring with a mortgage. It's not even a question. Inflation has been paying my home off for the last 6 years and I'll continue to let it.
@laundrygoddess4
@laundrygoddess4 Ай бұрын
I'm 50 and currently budget 800 a month for medical. I couldn't imagine retiring and having higher medical costs and still paying debt
@holdencawffle626
@holdencawffle626 Ай бұрын
Do you have medical issues?
@laundrygoddess4
@laundrygoddess4 Ай бұрын
@@holdencawffle626 clearly. Otherwise why would I spend that much. My country even has universal healthcare but it doesn't cover a lot of things
@paulamore1630
@paulamore1630 Ай бұрын
My thing is, I’m a lifelong renter, simply because I don’t have the time, interest, or discipline to take care of a house. In retirement I’d like to buy a condo, just so I can have a little more privacy and power. And with no job, I could probably care for it.
@queson52
@queson52 Ай бұрын
wrt student loan question, mortgage at 3.25% 280k is 9100 a year in interest. 7% 360k is 25,200 in interest student loan of 80k at 20% is 16k a year. that would be the break even for this to make any sense. and you also dont want to consolidate loans of different rates. you want to plow every penny you can into the highest interest one.
@Gigi-up8yi
@Gigi-up8yi 29 күн бұрын
You guys are all so awesome! Brian was too cute when he held up the phone for everyone 😂 Thanks again for another amazingly helpful video guys! ☺️👌
@RobWilliams007
@RobWilliams007 Ай бұрын
Derek, you have it backwards - if you have no kids you should save as much as you can because when you have kids you may not be able to save as much - kids are expensive. Pluuuus, time is your greatest asset.
@carlaritchie331
@carlaritchie331 Ай бұрын
Derek's question probably assumes they will both be healthy and able to work for 3 more decades. In hindsight, I should have saved more when age 20-40 when time is on your side for compounding interest. Unexpected things can happen in life that may impact work ability. The better prepared you are and the more options you have if something bad happens, the more likely you are to feel financially secure with no regrets. Save as much as possible early in life because you can never go back for another chance.
@angieharris8015
@angieharris8015 Ай бұрын
Why do you feel so insecure over "aging?" I have been intently listening to this show for about 4-years and you always make a reference (usually negative) to being older or aging. You are 50 OR 51...SO WHAT?!!!!!!!!
@SuperKamiNeko
@SuperKamiNeko Ай бұрын
If you have enough passive income to cover all your living expenses and more, then yes, you're retired and financially free.
@eddiebrugal8660
@eddiebrugal8660 Ай бұрын
That discussion on social security was very helpful
@user-nh7kq2um1y
@user-nh7kq2um1y 29 күн бұрын
There was something in the water this day that affected the pronounciations LOL 🤣
@donnymac575
@donnymac575 Ай бұрын
My rate is 2.25 percent. Think I'll just let it ride and let those any extra funds I have continue to earn more money.
@MKK-wg7fz
@MKK-wg7fz Ай бұрын
I don’t blame you
@7SideWays
@7SideWays Ай бұрын
Paid our house off and got a large 1st heloc as an opportunity fund. Don't rush to pay off a low rate mortgage without a specific purpose.
@Lolatyou332
@Lolatyou332 Ай бұрын
Considerations for mortgages in retirement: • If you are planning for retirement, don't plan on having a mortgage. • Any additional income to pay for the mortgage will be taxed at your marginal tax rate. • Having to earn additional income can result in making you less eligible for healthcare subsidies or result in IRMA penalties. • If your planned retirement income is low enough, you can also be affected by the social security tax bump which puts you over a threshold that causes you to get charged taxes on otherwise untaxed social security income. If you are entering retirement with a mortgage, please devise a plan with calculations and maybe even contact a financial advisor as the decisions you make early on have the biggest chance of affecting your long-term retirement. Even if your mortgage is 3% APY and a HYSA return is 5% APY you can still come out behind or flat and you lose the safety net of having a paid off house. Other than property taxes, you can't lose your house if you have no debt tied to it.
@dragoncat5836
@dragoncat5836 Ай бұрын
All this fearmongering about losing your house... Seems obvious but you won't lose it if you make the payments... If you have sufficient income or a low enough mortgage payment, it's really nbd.
@user-vl7ol5up2b
@user-vl7ol5up2b Ай бұрын
We are moving next year. We've had the conversation about renting out versus selling. (Low mortgage, high local rent = very positive cash flow). We decided to sell as, even if our next location doesn't work out for us, we wont be returning to our current house location. Simplify for us beats out the additional cash flow.
@Erin-rg3dw
@Erin-rg3dw Ай бұрын
I asked my realtor if I should rent when I move since he rents a few properties. He agreed that if I was local, sure I could try it, but not if I went far away, especially if I planned on selling soon after. There are too many risks with tenants if you can't be nearby to fix things. Plus, even good tenants create the same wear and tear as owners, so that's more work to fix before selling. Better to sell and cut the losses than take on that burden.
@Bippityboppityboop
@Bippityboppityboop Ай бұрын
52 and one of the lucky ones that had over $100k forgiven of student loans from the 90s. I'm buying my first house near the end of this year-Ive been a single mom for 23 years.
@philly799
@philly799 Ай бұрын
I'm only 45, and I can't imagine having a mortgage. I paid it off 3 years ago, and the cost of living is so outrageous, having a mortgage would mean no money left to contribute to retirement accounts.
@Broprotato
@Broprotato Ай бұрын
At 42, I prefer the peace of mind of having my retirement locked in.
@holdencawffle626
@holdencawffle626 Ай бұрын
​@@Broprotatosame. Home ownership is way overrated
@user-nh7kq2um1y
@user-nh7kq2um1y 29 күн бұрын
We totally love Rebie but we also love you Brian but definitely more Rebie.
@michaeldew7904
@michaeldew7904 Ай бұрын
There a lot of us Rebie fans, but we love you all.
@desiv1170
@desiv1170 Ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of paying off your house. We did that with our first home, and are now renting that out. And our goal was to retire when our current house is paid off, in about three years. No debt heading into retirement. We are on track for that. Except!!!!! The last few years have changed our minds. I'm now going to retire in about 10 months. Ideally we'd love to have no debt, and we are still on track for that, except for that mortgage... But it's a 2.75% rate. So as much as I'd love to have that paid off, we're going into retirement with that mortgage for a couple of years... Yeah, we could pull from our retirement to pay it off early, but I'd rather have that money still gaining interest. We might end up pulling a bit from our retirement to pay for a couple of trips before the house is paid off (and we probably wouldn't have to do that if we didn't have the mortgage), but that will be much less than the final $75k or so on the house... We can afford it budget wise, and my wife (already retired and waiting for me) is already planning our GoGo time post retirement... :-)
@angieharris8015
@angieharris8015 Ай бұрын
What if you have pension(s)...not including Social Security? I mean, why do you have to have "millions?"
@MKK-wg7fz
@MKK-wg7fz Ай бұрын
Pensions are not that common anymore. Definitely if you have a pension you would take that into consideration when calculating how much you will need to invest.
@MrRuben536
@MrRuben536 Ай бұрын
My wife and I will be getting pensions (we work in education and healthcare). My pension is 10% of my gross and I’m investing 20% of my income on my own. However I don’t include my pension in my retirement planning, I’ll start including it 5 years before I plan to retire. I’m acting like it doesn’t exist.
@angieharris8015
@angieharris8015 Ай бұрын
​@MrRuben536 I am doing the same thing, except I am ignoring my pre-retirement accounts. I don't want to rely on them for retirement, I plan on using them as my "fun" money. 🎉
@Zorlig
@Zorlig Ай бұрын
I think the goal for retirement would be a massive 1% mortgage with the same amount being an increase in your Roth!
@RobWilliams007
@RobWilliams007 Ай бұрын
Bowlin’ point.😂
@hulenbryant5637
@hulenbryant5637 Ай бұрын
Actually Chevy Chase pronounces his name like the car .. with a SH sound.
@DrakeNAllen
@DrakeNAllen Ай бұрын
0:13 FOUR LOKO TIME BABY
@xaldath4265
@xaldath4265 Ай бұрын
Regret just called.
@burkles4456
@burkles4456 Ай бұрын
“Make sure you put the ‘FOO sighting’ graphic up at x:xx” -the editor probably
@josephsmith4009
@josephsmith4009 Ай бұрын
Brian check me on this but I don't think the two years out of the last five rule operates as a cliff. If you sell your house exactly 37 months after you move out, I believe you still get 23/24 of the pimary residence benefit.
@notgivingmyemail3381
@notgivingmyemail3381 Ай бұрын
Everything I have ever read has said at least 2 of the last 5 years. No proration.
@greenlantern1986
@greenlantern1986 Ай бұрын
New York Times Bestselling author refuses to tip more than $1
@jordanaddley1832
@jordanaddley1832 Ай бұрын
Well I’m sure he’s tipping…multiple $1 bills. Like tipping $5-$10 in ones. Or leaving $2 -$5after a meal.
@alwaysemilia
@alwaysemilia Ай бұрын
Also, tipping in Europe isn’t as big as in the US. A couple dollars is plenty for a lot of situations there.
@johnneill23
@johnneill23 Ай бұрын
On most cruise ships, the gratuity is added already. So tips are above and beyond that.
@LexMouse
@LexMouse Ай бұрын
Uh oh, troll alert 🚨
@CaedenV
@CaedenV Ай бұрын
Man... I can't wait to get to my bowling point. 😅
@voncilledemesa2075
@voncilledemesa2075 Ай бұрын
My husband always stops to get money for tipping
@rayzerot
@rayzerot Ай бұрын
The ONLY 2 "tax free" accounts are the HSA's and traditional IRA/401 accounts up to your standard deduction in withdrawals. Tax free going in, tax free growth, tax free withdrawals up to your standard deduction (and continued withdrawals in your lowest tax brackets first) Roth accounts are "taxes paid". You pay taxes on them at your marginal tax bracket. That's not saying Roth are bad. That's not saying you shouldn't do Roth. It's saying that they are not, and have never been "tax free" -end mini-rant about my pet peeve
@Yugiboii
@Yugiboii Ай бұрын
How are traditional IRA/401k tax free withdrawal?
@dannyturkian9083
@dannyturkian9083 Ай бұрын
Because if you take out less than a certain amount you can use a “standard deduction” to pay no taxes on it, theoretically.
@rebeltheharem7028
@rebeltheharem7028 Ай бұрын
But they are tax free. You don't have to pay capital gains tax. Now, for a real counter argument: If you make the argument that 401K and traditional IRA's are tax free, then by your definition, if you make less than standard deduction, Roth is also tax free, because you never paid any tax. If you use the "up to standard deduction" = tax free, then you have to apply it to both cases. If you are putting in up to 11K into a ROTH, then that's the standard deduction, and thus its tax free, as you always pay 0 tax up to the standard deduction. Edit: Only when you put in more, is it not tax free. Same for 401K, if you withdraw over 11K, its no longer tax free. The only actual tax free one is an HSA, and HSA only, that this has a severely limited use case.
@MrJonecat212
@MrJonecat212 Ай бұрын
I have three properties all with mortgages (primary, investment, and second home). I have 12 years left on my primary residence and will have the investment property paid off in 5-7 years. Once the investment is paid off, what is best to do with the extra money that would have typically gone to the mortgage (I.e do I put it towards my primary mortgage, incest it, etc…)?
@AntonioGidi
@AntonioGidi Ай бұрын
I would definitely incest!
@RobWilliams007
@RobWilliams007 Ай бұрын
Took my Chevy to the levy.
@jimflowers6455
@jimflowers6455 Ай бұрын
If you retire with a mortgage, you have flunked personal finance.
@Random-ld6wg
@Random-ld6wg Ай бұрын
that sounds like a challenge, ha ha but to each their own. i think saying that one would have flunked personal finance having kept a mortgage in retirement is a little too strong an opinion. if you're interested you could look up my post somewhere above why i chose to retire with a mortgage and it was well thought out for my circumstances and not a case of "well everyone says i should be done with my mortgage before i retire so that is what i should do. "
@gsquared2394
@gsquared2394 Ай бұрын
I’d agree, it’s not textbook at all, but most people suck with money meaning a lot of retirees have a mortgage.
@Erin-rg3dw
@Erin-rg3dw Ай бұрын
@@Random-ld6wg Agreed, especially if you ended up moving/buying a home close-ish to retirement years., and you never know if situations might change and you need to move again.
@notgivingmyemail3381
@notgivingmyemail3381 Ай бұрын
If you think that everyone that retires with a mortgage flunked personal finance, you can’t do basic math. Remember, personal finance is personal. Just because a retiree has a mortgage doesn’t mean he doesn’t have millions in the bank.
@dragoncat5836
@dragoncat5836 Ай бұрын
I think if you don't know the difference between 2.5% and 10% you flunked personal finance xD
@brownwhale5518
@brownwhale5518 Ай бұрын
Bigger question would be why the heck does Troy’s Dad have $250k remaining on a mortgage while being ready to retire???
@notgivingmyemail3381
@notgivingmyemail3381 Ай бұрын
I’ll have about that much on my mortgage when I retire. Simple answer is I’d rather have that money making 10-12% in the market than pulling it out to pay off a 2.25% mortgage. Hundreds of thousands of dollars more in my accounts by keeping the mortgage.
@RobWilliams007
@RobWilliams007 Ай бұрын
You didn’t race to a Starbucks, in Europe again, did you, Brian?
@ConserveMore
@ConserveMore Ай бұрын
Lol, Brian feeling like a baller when he's only tipping $1. Nobody should be tipped less than $3 these days. $5 and higher would be better.
@holdencawffle626
@holdencawffle626 Ай бұрын
Oh be quiet I'll tip what I feel like
@robertcpressly
@robertcpressly Ай бұрын
Only if you have at least 10 X the remaining balance in your portfolio and could pay it off should you choose to.
@JN-ys6eq
@JN-ys6eq Ай бұрын
10:00 Roth isn't tax free. You still pay taxes when you file for the year. It's just tax free after that. HSA is genuinely tax free when used on medical expenses.
@hardlife507
@hardlife507 Ай бұрын
With such a low rate, I would even go as far as to do a hack and recast the mortgage.
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