It's a great kit to build and drive

Thanks CJ! Yeah, I do a "personal build" once every couple of years....oddly this is one of the only ones that has been completed.

Thanks for watching Andy! Yes, you've been on the channel for a while. I'm looking forward to driving mine this weekend....it should be a good time

Nice on all three VS410's - they are great trucks. Not sure on the issue with the shocks - I disassembled mine and hit the cartridge with Blue o-ring grease as I do with all of my shocks

Same thing with mine on my ultra and the other 2 sets I have. None of my incision shocks leak.

Nice! The ultra looks like a great truck

Thanks Mick - Yeah, I'm looking forward to running this....I did pick up the Aluminum shock towers though...

My shocks leaked before use as well. I also ditched mine for some ssd shocks. Oddly the 80mm version of the same shocks barely leak at all on my ultra.

Thanks buddy!

Yeah, import costs suck, especially on expensive items like this....but I still think it's worth it. you do get a lot of value in the parts for this kit....and it does keep it's value, RC wise

Woah....2ndaryMotion is in the house! Thanks for stopping by

Nice! yeah, I didn't want to start grinding plastic off of a new truck

Nice! The Hyrax's, depending on your terrain, should give you some ridiculous traction, IMO

Already in the works for the video

It's a great rig and you do pay dearly for the axles.

Thanks Avery - yeah, I'll plan on one

Why? its a beadlock wheel the only difference is the absurd prices

Who are you asking?

@@thatprcrawlerguy187 You can get four complete wheels for

fwiw. I have a set of Vanquish Method Roost wheels, and another set of the same design from a Chinese Ebay seller... side by side the Vanquish wheels are noticeably better made - better machining (including an engraved Method logo) and better finished overall... but they did cost $120 for the wheels [4], and another $36 for their SLW hubs. In comparison I recently bought the Ebay version - a complete set of 4 including hubs (same SLW pattern, just uses 3mm hardware) for $37. That is a huge difference, and once you've scratched them on the rocks a few times, the original finish probably doesn't really matter that much anymore.

Thanks buddy!

Hey Andrew - I'll fire up a video on the wheels....they're shockingly similar. Look, feel, finish, function, etc. Yeah, the EDC thing is crazy....I'm starting to match things...like Carbon knife to Carbon wallet (Ridge Wallet). I even just ordered a new Ridge in Stonewashed Titanium to match my ZT 0801ti. I think I'm up to 11 ZT's now....I think I need help

@@TheRCNetwork I actually got super into leather work. Made my self a few wallets, multiple organizers, belts and keychains I know exactly what you mean in adding things to complementnt one another

Hey Paul, I don't envy the pricing in Australia for US products....same goes for Canada (which is odd because it's right next to us!)

The RCNetwork Hi Rich The pricing is kind of relative to our average wage etc. it was better when the conversion rate was $1.10 US to $1.00 AUD (kicking myself I didn’t invest in US dollars) but now it’s back to $0.72 US~ for $1.00 AUD. Stock availability and price gouging by some online local hobby store fronts has been horrendous. This mainly applies to the Tamiya kits with prices being $300 + RRP on some kits. So most are buying in Asia and shipping for less. It’s really crazy. Our cost of living is very fluid at the moment with a strained relationship between us and China. In recent times, before COVID19 we had a lot of Chinese investors buying our goods and services, housing, baby milk formula, education etc. and paying way above RRP. This meant for the average Ozzie they have to pay more for everything if they wanted to compete. Housing went up a good 50%+ because of the foreign investors, they would buy 3+ houses without inspecting them and never bother to occupy them. This just destroyed the great Ozzie dream of owning your own home and getting a good education. But $1000 AUD is on the expensive side for a crawler plus the add ons. If it was inclusive of the upgrades, it would be around what we are used to paying minus electronics. Our ideal range of currency is about $0.80 AUD to $1.00 US as we are such a big exporter of raw materials. But again this has been influenced as China is refusing to trade with Australia over our stand with Human Rights issues, land sovereignty and the call for an independent investigation into the origin of the virus. So we are being punished by the sleeping dragon. I read recently that China is now trying to open better trade relations with the US, here is hoping that you guys don’t sell your soul as we did. There is an initiative that is used by the CCP that is called the “belt and road”. Basically China lends your States (Victoria, where I live signed on to this, but looks like it will be quashed by the federal government) huge amounts of money to improve infrastructure and the work is conducted by Chinese companies, then you repay the CCP back the money, which is astronomical. They then take ownership of said infrastructure and it becomes a lease style payment to use the facilities. Things like shipping ports, major highways, hospitals, etc.etc.etc. Many a third world country has fallen for this tactic and is basically being held to ransom. So in short imported goods from the US are a killer, mainly with the shipping. A kit can cost $150+ to ship, depending on the size, plus a very lengthy wait. I guess I’d be looking at $1500+ conservatively to finish a kit like that with some nice electronics painting, LED’s, wheels and tires. But bringing it back to a minimum wage or cost of living scenario I’d pay $900 for a 1/10 4wd racing buggy kit plus the obvious necessaries.

@@paulgarwood192 Useful information for general world knowledge. Shows how differing interests can really make things tough for the avg. person.

I agree with you there

Nice - the Holmes stuff is great as well. I ran that in my SMT10 build, way back

Nice! The Ultra was tempting

Yeah, I agree with you...I love the size of the stock Top tires, but they're such a hard compound

Thanks Ken! Yeah, I do see some Bronco....but I believe it was modeled after a Scout of some sort. I'm 75% speed guy....25% crawler these days

It's modeled on a scout 80

Good choice

Thanks Antonio - I think they have a great product, just a couple of misses....but I'm looking forward to driving it

I have several painting videos where I show different techniques that I use: kzfaq.info/sun/PL5_p3gwitPIkU6PsMiohKuwJj3rOROxsc

Yeah, I've heard a mixed bag on the shocks. Thanks for stopping by!

There's usually a ton of events...but that darn Covid thing! I know up in NorCal - they have quite a few smaller ones. Of course, there's Axial Fest (one of the largest) that got cancelled this year - that's usually up at Donner Ski Ranch. There is also Pro-Line by the Fire - also got cancelled due to Covid - which is usually held at Horseman's Park in Apple Valley. There's also some events held near Las Vegas too. As for crawling spots? I have a ton down here in SoCal.....and the famous Corona Del Mar. Not sure of local spots in NorCal

Well, most of the plastic molded parts and some of the hardened steel parts are made in Taiwan. I believe I read that since a certain portion was made in the US (like the Axles, SS links, etc) that they could have labeled it as US..but they wanted to be honest with their customers.

Yes, it's already in the works!

Thanks Tim! I'm sure it's a price that they're comfortable with in producing. After all, they are business. I do agree, their USA Made parts are second to none

@@TheRCNetworkthanks for the feedback Rich you have quite the collection of well built rc's I appreciate your reviews and experience

Yes, thanks for catching that. I had them phased when I had the HW electronics in.....but had to rip everything out to install new electronics.....totally forgot that 😬

Yep, it will fit right in...and not leak!

Here's what I notice on the difference: metric hardware (which is a big bonus!) and no laser etched branding name like KMC or Method. other than that, they are duplicates...even VP's SLW hubs fit on them. They're honestly a bargain for $40 for a full set including hardware and hubs. You can't touch a VP set ready to mount from under $200 these days. If you can get past the dirty feeling of supporting china...all is good. I'm typing on Mac, so all is equal

I love the Injora rims. So worth it even if they arent US made.

Yeah, I think I have 3 sets now of Injora's - two of the same ones that are on this build. One with black and one with the blue rings. I also have a set of Method 105 knock offs, but the finish is more polished over the matte anodizing that these wheels have

Worth 750? Yeah it is. After spending 1500 to build an origin tho, I'm not really In a hurry to buy one. I might, but I'd probably sell something else first.

Its worth it, but in our crazy times it’s still a lot of dough. You’d spend more to build it yourself.

@Vegeta Tarbel Honestly no. The biggest issue I have with my kit is the giant stamp on the box that says made in Taiwan ! I would have gladly paid a little more to get a 100% US made kit

Thanks buddy! I always like to highlight the car instead of watching a guy talk about an RC

Very true! I need to drive mine more

unbolt, bolt. that easy

@@TheRCNetwork the upper shock mounts are too big and the stock ball ends are too loose. That’s why I asked because it not exactly a straight swap.

My concern was where they attached to the frame....the tabs are so small holding the lean on

Thanks Brian! Yeah, in the end, it is worth it. No kit is perfect as we all have opinions

As far as I know, no...not easily, that is. I'm sure it can be done, but you'd have to find aftermarket rails for the VS410 and then of course links and driveshafts to make it work

@@TheRCNetwork ok. Cool..good to know. Would be a good build if someone did it;) thank u.. have a great day.

Yes, I had to check the exact differences: The Pro uses the "VFD Transmission" and includes Machined Steel gears and Aluminum bearing plates. The Ultra uses the "VFD Spec Transmission" which differs by using Sintered metal gears (like Pot metal) and molded (or I'm assuming plastic) bearing plates. They had to cut costs somewhere as the portal axles alone are nearing $500 on the Ultra

Ok thanks for info. I have a Pro and it’s by far best truck on market . Worth every penny . I have the Ultra as well just have not put it together yet .

@@TheRCNetwork sintered does not mean pot metal. pot metal would insinuate cast metal, where there is a mold and molten metal is poured in and then solidified. sintered parts use a fine steel power, and then are compressed and heated in a way that all the small powders are stuck together and harden. sintered gears are very strong and are actually quieter than machined steel gears. both have their benefits, but by no means are the sintered gears in the vs410 ultra weak. they wont fail.

Agreed on that one. I've been told by the FB and YT experts that I don't know how to build shocks.....

Yeah, it's unfortunate that they don't have a distributor.....does Amain Hobbies ship to the UK? My link in the video description is for them

@@TheRCNetwork yes they do

225's on this one

Thanks Big Mike! I'll have to look into that TRX4 Axle swap....and thanks for the driveshaft catch - I literally just swapped the electronics before I shot this video....must have got things mixed up when re-installing

Yeah, the shocks have been a mixed bag - some love them, some hate them. But the main consensus is that the wheels and tires are throw aways

@@TheRCNetwork yes, it's interesting... you'd think that Vanquish would include a set of their own Aluminium wheels - but then that would push the price close to $1000 which is a tough sell when the kit still requires electronics too. I also think that once you approach this price point, people are going to want to choose their own design of wheel too - so perhaps a better option for future releases would be to offer the kit without the wheels & tyres, but include the aluminium shock towers and full machined gear transmission instead?

It's a Panasonic G95 Mirrorless

@@TheRCNetwork Looks so good! i just found the links in the description for your cameras. Thanks for the reply. =)

Thanks Peter - the Ultra will be nice! Enjoy the build

@@TheRCNetwork I wanted to know your feeling on the MambaX with the 2850kv slate set up I’ll also be running the Reefs Triple7 servo.

@@hooligansrcadventures3729 I'm sure it will do well....but I've never been a fan of Castle, personally. The Reef's servo is very similar to the AGF....I'm suspecting they're made by AGF

Thanks for watching Michael - Not sure on the shocks....I even double checked the fluid level and nothing bled out, so they were filled correctly. I'm quite optimistic on running this thing - I'm sure it will perform.....but yes, I will have a running video!

I bought my Pro the first week they came out. Haven't regretted it a second. I suspect the shocks were dry assembled at the factory and tore the o-rings. Because when Vanquish sent me free rebuild kits the shocks have been flawless for 15 months. The rod ends while Revo-like, still need replacing much more often. (my only complaint). I own both Vanquish and chanquish wheels. I think the biggest difference is in the grade of material, both aluminum and steel. Chanquish use softer material.

@@stevelangley246 Torn O rings was my guess too. It's why I dislike pre assembled dry shocks. New O rings is an easy fix.

Thanks Steve - I'll check the o Rings....The wheels I picked up are shockingly similar....I've had a few other Chanquish/eBay sets in the past and they were always so different. These even have the anodizing down - that matte finish that VP is known for.

I wish I could have built the shocks myself....Thanks for the info, I'll check the rings

As fast as the electronics and battery you put in it

That's the stock Vanquish VS410 Pro/Ultra half cab body

Yeah, I shot the full review back in February - but then Covid hit and there was some serious backlash on anything China made...so I shelved it for the time being. I'm not sure on the rings, but I'd say they're exact. the VP rings are a bit better quality, or at least the finish is. VP rings go for $8 each....I got these blue rings for $8 for 4. The thing I do like on the knock off are that the hardware on the rings are more recessed (so they don't get damaged as easy) and they're metric......literally the only reason I have 1/16th and 3/32 drivers are for VP wheels

@@TheRCNetwork I have set VP Methods but I wanted to change the rings. But VP is out of stock on some rings that i like.

Worst case, you're only out $8

@@TheRCNetwork true, I just didn't if they would fit, now I do. Thanks you for all your great vids

@@adanortiz1981 check out IERC scaler. They have some nice beadlock rings.

Hey Robert - that's a bummer on the wheel - it can happen and that's the danger of dealing with an off-shore company....but that price though! I also hate the SAE hardware on VP wheels......Way back I had posted a photo of the new VP drivers (only released in Metric at the time) and a VP wheel and asked "what's wrong with this picture". The machinist from VP commented that they would not re-do the wheels to accommodate metric hardware, because what they have just works. The VP trucks are all metric though

Yep, I'm planning on it. Stay tuned!

Stay tuned.... 😁

It is. You will pay a lot more to get a scx10 III to perform the same

Thanks buddy! Yeah, I'm planning on one

Yeah, I'l get it going here soon!

Awesome

Soon, buddy! Just getting some promised videos complete...the VS410 was a personal truck

There is definitely value in the kit. The loaded axles alone are worth about $350. Just taking an educated guess, but I know the axle housings are made in the US, as all of their machined aluminum is. Most of the molded plastic is likely made over seas along with some of the incision steel parts.

@@TheRCNetwork id say the axles are more than 350...pricing everything on vanquish's website using the d44 housings instead of the f9 puts it in the 450 range

I think it would be hard to offer a kit without shocks....but I agree on wheels/tires. In the past year, the clones wheels have really improved the looks.....and since there's zero performance advantage on VP wheels, the pricing on the clones are outstanding

can't agree more!

Thanks buddy. I stopped making RC vids in August 2021. Kinda lost interest after 10 years doing KZfaq and all the tracks closed around me as well. I’m making videos again about Tacomas: @tacomanetwork

Nice! I'll have to look into those...hopefully they sell the file, as buying anything from Shapeways is crazy on pricing.

It won’t fit. Although it’s a 540 sized motor, the last bit making it a 550 houses the built in ESC. I mounted the 540 AXE, and tried putting the fusion in, but it was too long.

@@TheRCNetwork okay so If I understand correctly the 540 Axe will fit but not the fusion ?

@@FarLanderz yep. That’s it! 😃👍

Welcome to Inflation. #letsgobrandon

Thanks Tim

Yeah, it's a lot of money....but takes the next step in kit building with the quality of most of the parts

Let me hear your voice to compare.....

@@TheRCNetwork 😂 I'm guessing you think I'm nuts then and you don't sound like a robot or one of them computerized machines. Whatever Rich

Welp, not sure how to take your first comment....and how exactly do you want me to answer? if you want to know the real reason, I "sound" like a robot....it has to do with my editing style on the video. This particular video was scripted, meaning I wrote the script out over a month after I assembled the truck an shot the video. I edited the video and voiced over the audio. During that time editing, I have my viewers in mind, especially on KZfaq and edit down all voids in the audio to speed up the video delivery.....so, like for this video, it likely started off as a 25+ minute video and by chopping out all of the voids, it saves the viewer (you) usually 5-10 minutes per video. So, does that answer your question, or do you want to poke more fun?

Well, it also shows the price of engineering and developing the actual wheel....I'm sure a percentage is licensing, but you can tell that the knock offs were literally a carbon copy of the VP version. Someone saw that they were selling. Bought one, shipped it to China and the rest is history. Do I think a set of VP's is worth $200? But I do value the effort that VP took to give us great scale wheels

@@TheRCNetwork the price of engineering The wheel has so minimal engineering in it that I could likely DIY that. The tool pathing for the mill is likely more expensive

@@lacucaracha111111 well for starters the vanquish wheels are made in america and therefore need to pay loving wages...china doesnt pay hardly anything to the workers there

@@cameron6471 Yeah US, thats another issue. In Europe you pay even more for them. 20% VAT and up to 50% import (Both off base value then added) And out of the 200$ set you get a ~340€ set. At 340€ I could get an ender 3 pro, get an E3D V6 and make as many PETG rims as 2KG of spools allow, AND I'm still 10€ under budget, which would allow for M3 screws so you can print beadlocks and rings Meanwhile at 50$ You will pay 85 at worst and 50$ is under the 100€ limit, so you may not end up paying import duties at all and the price ends up at 60€ You may guess why RC is barely a thing in europe

@@lacucaracha111111 wile i get your point, that isnt vanquish's fault

I can't agree more on the Injora wheels.....I think I have 4 sets now.

That was the main bummer on the rig....and like you said, they should have been flawless.

Very true, and if you watch resale value of VP's trucks, they selling near retail + electronics if installed.

@@TheRCNetwork I just Picked Up A VS4-10 Ultra, and I have to say it is worth every penny.

I've found the decent "knock offs" are in the $40-$50 range - especially the ones with similar colors/finishes to the VP versions. Now, if you want bright gold on black....$30 can be had

Ya know.....I just built so many portal rigs the last year (2 TRX-4's, Capra, SCX10iii) I just wanted to keep this one real

It includes their sought after Aluminum Axles, VFD transmission and a pretty highly detailed body set. really, the loaded axles alone are about a $350 value

@@TheRCNetwork yes but let's be honest it takes away from the hobby when they start pricing stuff as if it will effectively change their life. I resort to the highest quality no-name these companies i understand work hard but you dont become sought after by over pricing. How is an axle from china less metal than one that has a VANQUISH name attached to it? but all in all TO EACH THEIR OWN

Worth every penny

@@TheRCNetwork There are cheaper and less "elite" rcs which can give tons of fun. Like those from LC Racing...

It's a decent truck and one of only 2 RC's I kept after retiring the channel

I can't fault you there. There's some darn good trucks in that price range

I hear ya and agree. Especially on the shocks and inner fenders. Their axles are made in the US as well as a few other items that are machined....and they could have technically stated it was made in the US based on the part value....but they were honest and stated made in Taiwan. Performance wise, it’s def worth the $750 in hindsight

@@TheRCNetwork I really love the axles! I don't wanna talk these rigs down. I've never had the chance to drive one but I'm sure they're performance is awesome. They put some knowledge and ideas in their products, I give them that. Still the price tags hurt. lol. Strange, I know because everyone is buying 400 and 500 dollar rigs and upgrade them until they are around 700 to 800 bucks as well and somehow that doesn't hut that much, hahahaha...

The Origin (camper shell body) came with a bunch of additional aluminum items like bumpers and sliders and was the original design. The Pro Model is truly "pro", as it has a fully decked out transmission. the Ultra, well, has portals which really drives the cost up on the kit. I think just the axles are nearing $500 for the portals

These kits aren't for everyone, but absolutely my favourite kit I own... worth every aussie dollar I paid.

Good to know Mick! Thanks for stopping by

what "best parts" is it missing? it has their best axles, best transmission, best internal gears and shafts, best performing bumpers and sliders, full stainless links, the stiffest chassis on the market - period. sure the shocks may leak for some people. sure some people may not like the body. At the end of the day that is a personal preference. Im sure you dont like the land rover defender, jeep JK, JL, honcho, cherokee, blazer, bronco, 4runner, and ford f100. everyone dislikes one of those.

@@cameron6471 100% legit 👍

That's the thing.....originally, they only sold the axles with the truck (as the front was an offset pumpkin)..then they released the axles, but they're hard to find, as they don't produce that many of them

Go to VPs site - add to cart 1.9 wheels - 69.99 x 2, SLW hubs - 14.99 x2 - SLW Hardware - 5.49 x 2, then add tax and shipping. Typically about $195ish

@@TheRCNetwork they come with hardware, even for hubs. Price for hubs shouldn't be added since you have to buy them even with the cheap knockoffs. You're looking around 130. Plus the fact that they did the proper licensing and made in usa means more than saving a few bucks

@@kennethmercer206 False, VP wheels do not come with SLW hub hardware, you have to buy it separately. Also False, knockoff (injora) wheels come with hubs and all the hardware. I’m not defending knockoffs or the means in which they exist. I’m just stating facts....so your $130 pricing is false even if you don’t factor in tax and shipping, you’re looking at $181 - $70, $70, $15, $15, $5.5, $5.5. I’ve bought and paid for at least 10 sets of VP wheels.....oh, also, knocks off use metric hardware, so the likely hood of you having extra hardware laying around is likely.

Agreed.....I know how much Guitars can go for.....a body of mine collects, and I helped him move a few years back. He had a section in the moving van just for all of his Guitars

Thanks for stopping by

Yeah, not my best soldering job....but considering I had to rip an entire system out of the truck that I just soldered.....lol

Not everyone has your "opinion" on the hyrax tires.......nor your terrain

looks awfull, too much grip, only for beginners. not scale at all

My intentions for this truck was not to go slow.....but, you do you...I'll do me. Greetings from the "beginner." . . . . . . . . . Try to not be insulting with your "comments". KZfaq is filled with trolling assholes. Don't be an asshole