Is it Time to Retire my old 870 from Duck Hunting?

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Is it Time to Retire my old 870 from Duck Hunting?

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On this video Joel discusses why he's considering retiring his 30 year old Remington 870 from Duck Hunting. It's a big decision, find out what he decides.
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@SurvivingDuckSeason 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Do you shoot a 20 ga for waterfowl??

@oneshot000123 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I shoot a 20 gauge benelli m2 with boss 3” #4’s. Love it. I also have a browning sweet 16 I’m going to be using, just got a case of boss for it yesterday.

@denverharleman8045 3 жыл бұрын

20ga 3inch reloads 1oz BBB, 1 AND 3 steel, 20ga 2 3/4 13/16 B, 2 and 4 bismuth and 7/8 oz TSS 5 and 7 at 1400

@drewhickson9960 3 жыл бұрын

I got a 20gauge Mossberg and it’s fine for ducks but Not that great for geese. I just prefer the 12gauge. I got and 870 and an maverick 88

@wm8822 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I love my 20

@wm8822 3 жыл бұрын

@@drewhickson9960 I have the mossberg sa 20 what mossberg do you have

@vaughnprecision 3 жыл бұрын

Waders, I think my biggest complaint is how they don’t fit well. They are either bulky or they fit like OJs gloves. If I could find a pair that actually fit normal I’d sure be happy.! On a side note: I hope you have a chance to shoot the Benelli M2, is switched last year to the Benelli and I’m very happy with my decision.! Not only do I hunt with it, but I’ve shot a bunch of sporting clays and I really like it.! Might not be right for you, but I hope you have the opportunity at least.

@bradenhanzelka3512 3 жыл бұрын

The most important thing I look at in waders is safety.. most people don’t think of that when choosing waders, but durability, protection, and all the things that go into the production of waders essentially is a part of your body when you’re hunting and is what keeps your body safe from the environment. To not worry about my body battling the environment is an essential part of doing your job or hunting!

@ianboswell8825 3 жыл бұрын

What I want in a pair of waders is durability, reliability, and ones that do what waders are supposed to do, keep you high and dry. I might want to try duck hunting with a 20 ga., I’ve always used a 12ga for everything, but want something more lightweight for when I am doing a lot of walking for turkey hunting.

@steveseay9555 3 жыл бұрын

Comfortable boot. Correct inseam length. Flexibility

@kindredspirittv8598 3 жыл бұрын

I just started hunting with a 28 gauge

@joek7625 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joel! Need waterproof pockets!

@erynwillson9371 3 жыл бұрын

For my first year waterfowl hunting I've realized the importance of mobility on a hunting site. You have me sold on the reliability and peace of mind factor when it comes to waders so I can enjoy even more waterfowl hunting experiences

@jeremymatlock2049 3 жыл бұрын

I want good comfortable boots ..ones that are not huge and clumpy to walk in ...

@whackinstackin3149 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!! Man you can’t go wrong with the 870! P.S. I want those waders! Lol🤣🦆

@wbsurfer123 3 жыл бұрын

One thing I look for in waders is how the boot fits. Hate having a boot that has a “loose” feel, even with it being the proper boot size

@chaseforrey9511 3 жыл бұрын

We stand in about 3 feet of freezing water when we are hunting so having really warm waders are super important.

@johnnyhonda4404 3 жыл бұрын

For me waders need to be breathable and dry. A nice hand warming pocket is also a nice feature. Keep up the good work!

@CameronFehrPhotography 3 жыл бұрын

My most important feature for waders is warmth and breathability. I've used numerous pairs of neoprenes, but they're awfully warm and sticky.

@brianmowrey2423 3 жыл бұрын

One thing I look for in waders is longevity. A good pair of waders aren’t cheap and it’s even more frustrating when you start a new season to find a leak.

@TRossiify 3 жыл бұрын

What I’m looking for out of a wader is to put them on and be able to forget about them. Any piece of equipment that works that well is worth it to me. I don’t want to have to think about anything when waking up at 3am other than brewing my coffee and getting to that days spot. Simplify and maximize!!! I have a 12 gauge SX4, 20 and 12 870, and picked up an SBE3 at the beginning of this season...I haven’t put the SBE3 down. It shoots so nice, it’s easy to clean, doesn’t get very dirty, and is super easy on the shoulder. Oh, and it’s light. Wicked nice gun!!!

@phillipaton658 3 жыл бұрын

I actually just purchased a pair of high n dry waders this week and got to take them on a hunt this morning. Most comfortable waders I’ve ever owned. I feel like the comfort and durability of waders are the most important for me. Of course I’d probably choose durability over comfort but luckily high n dry provides both. Thanks for putting me on those waders Joel!!

@mollybaumann415 3 жыл бұрын

Most important thing in waders for me, besides keeping me dry, is mobility. I do a lot of hiking in, and when it's cold here in the north I wear a lot of layers. Being able to move freely is not only more comfortable, it also feels safer.

@gregcochran6831 3 жыл бұрын

The things I look for most out of waders are comfort, durability, ease to get on and off, and warmth. One that don't leak around the seems and won't snag easily.

@nathanwheeler7137 3 жыл бұрын

Proper fit is a must. This directly effects comfort and mobility. They have to stand up to harsh conditions.

@dennissampson7502 3 жыл бұрын

My biggest thing in waders is warmth. I hunt Wisconsin and we break ice a lot in late season.

@brendondubroc9285 3 жыл бұрын

Waders that are tough , like high and dry to show all my buddies.

@davidspeicher4890 3 жыл бұрын

Joel, regarding your gun. Love seeing the 870. I bought my first one 6 years ago and love it. I've shot tons of birds and a few deer with it. Only downfall with my 870 is that Kent shells constantly jam. Mine has no kick. If you want kick shoot a .308 or 30-06 for deer 🦌. I've also used a 20 gauge. Works just as well but you really need to keep your shots within 40 yards.

@robertkittell9502 3 жыл бұрын

The biggest feature for me is light weight. After two total hip replacements I am finally gaining my strength back and have have started to again be able to enjoy waterfowl hunting. Unfortunately I have found my old neoprene waders are just too heavy for me to use any longer. Love your YT channel and always anticipate the next video.

@danielfuller6679 3 жыл бұрын

I bought an Beretta A400 Xtreme Kick Off. Totally reduced the recoil. Awesome gun.

@davidsherah 3 жыл бұрын

Warm and dry, we start our hunt by crossing a river so it is very easy to get cold. Also looking forward to your video for alternatives to steel. Blessings.

@Goosemaster1810 3 жыл бұрын

Without a doubt walking comfort is#1 with a set of waders. Been shooting an 870 for 57 seasons would have nothing else.God Bless Joel keep up the great work

@billbright964 3 жыл бұрын

My waders need to have a warm comfortable boot so I can spend those long hours in the duck blind here in New England.

@ryanaten3431 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve only bought one pair of waders and I didn’t spend very much on them. So far, they haven’t leaked, they keep me warm, and they have enough flexibility so I can walk comfortably through the marshes that I hunt in Southern Idaho.

@shawnfarris8908 3 жыл бұрын

Warm boots and its durability, and lite to wear for early season hunting. Thanks for the awesome giveaway

@jimward8636 3 жыл бұрын

Comfort and no leaks.

@DjStenoP 3 жыл бұрын

Most important thing for me is a non leaky waders. I work hard all week, so when I get to hunt on the weekend, there is nothing worst than having to quit early because your seams are leaking and your boots are full of cold water. Btw keep the good work, I am a huge fan of your channel and the true information you put out there.

@beedub85 3 жыл бұрын

The number one feature in a good set of waders has got to be durability! Nothing will ruin a hunt quicker than feeling that cold water on your feet.

@nemesis3329 3 жыл бұрын

Felt recoil solutions (works with Mossberg 500 pump action): Limbsaver recoil pad; 3 lbs of shot in hollow synthetic stock (double bagged with foam pad fillers); and Shock absorbing cheek pad. Dramatic reduction in felt recoil. I can shoot all day now, and not be sore or bruised. Even Magnum loads.

@FIREWPgard 3 жыл бұрын

Weatherby element synthetic 12gauge 3” Can’t go wrong. Thanks for your great videos.

@enriquesalas4150 3 жыл бұрын

Durability, comfort, and fit are the most important factors in water selection. The seat area is always first to go in every pair of waders I have owned. I regularly switch back and forth from 12 to 20 gauge depending on the water size and type of waterfowl, but I do love both gauges.

@jwholdridge 3 жыл бұрын

The most important thing I look in a pair of waders is durability with mobility, hunting in flooded timber in the south is a challenge, with waders you need a pair that are durable enough to last through the briars and grass, but also flexible enough to more freely through the water.

@nasserkuzbari2205 3 жыл бұрын

I noticed your old 870 in some previous videos and was wondering how old it was. It serves you well and deserves to retire soon. I have one like it and I had to change the stock because it was broken. Very nice gun to shoot. Try the Franchi Affinity 3. It is a very soft shooting gun and not expensive. I have the old one and it works every time even after I use it as a stick when I fell in the water during goose hunting this year. Good luck.

@graycassidy7525 3 жыл бұрын

Beretta a400 lite with a Jeb’s choke is the best 20ga setup I have ever used and I now own that and an a400 extreme plus 12ga

@lynny8602 3 жыл бұрын

I hate cold weather but i love to waterfowl hunt so keeping warm is a big deal to me...dont be afraid to use a .20ga they do alota killing for both me and my love..love you channel keep doing what your doing..god bless you and our country

@cengmoua7751 3 жыл бұрын

Warmth and comfort

@tavisthrom4745 3 жыл бұрын

Waders need to be neoprene with warm boots for the cold North Idaho winters. Also, durable is a must. I’ve become accustomed to having some level of leak on my waders because it seems like there is always a small leak somewhere. Thanks for the great content.

@natoshaogden5743 3 жыл бұрын

What I’m looking for in a pair of waders is warmth, no doubt it sucks being cold. Right now I have a pair of 600 gram waders and it’s not easy staying warm out there.

@mattbourcier1457 3 жыл бұрын

Waders must be comfortable for long hunts and also durable for harsh conditions.

@jfroe41 3 жыл бұрын

Durability!! I hunt in trees, boats, blinds, and marsh in Mississippi River backwaters in WI. Many of the guys talk about getting 1-2 years out of a pair of waders! My hope was to have a pair of waders last for a while longer. I still shoot my dads 12 gauge he passed on to me. Thanks for a great show.

@joshm6227 3 жыл бұрын

A good fitting wader, not bulky and easy to move around in.

@drewhickson9960 3 жыл бұрын

I need a pair of durable waders and that will fit me correctly. I’m 5’7 and When I buy a size 9 they are always meant for somebody 6ft! I got my dad into duck hunting last season! And since he found your channel he thinks it’s gospel😂 I think it’s hilarious that he’s always saying, “well my buddy Joel says!” We love hunting together and using you advice first hand . And we are seeing results. Love the videos man! Keep up the good work.

@christianquick2287 3 жыл бұрын

Waders that don't leak and that fit good and keep going warm and dry

@tdooutdoors 3 жыл бұрын

A good, comfortable boot that fits my feet correctly is the first thing I look for in a wader. I shoot a 20 gauge made by ATA firearms. 3rd season with it and it hasn’t let me down yet. I love the maneuverability and the less recoil. Paired with a good choke and shells, it’s a killer on ducks and honkers. You won’t be disappointed with a 20 gauge!

@themadkay 3 жыл бұрын

Aside from dependability, in upstate NY I need warmth!!! Insulation is my number one!!!!

@scottbailey2243 3 жыл бұрын

A good fitting boot. No need for blisters from a walk-in hunt. Durability is essential as well

@paulvidonic8602 3 жыл бұрын

I need a durable wader that is warm and light weight. Waders are one of those things, like your gun, that has to perform.

@jodikaiser3723 3 жыл бұрын

I need a wader that fits- I am 5’3 and every wader I have tried on is too tall and bulky. We have a pretty rough walk and it’s pretty cold up here in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan so warmth is pretty high up on my list too! I am not a big fan of KZfaqrs but I find myself enjoying your channel. Keep up the content and thank you!

@CoachShaneJohnson 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for my new addiction Joel! Your KZfaq channel! The most important feature I desperately need for a wader is the comfortable foot area top sides and bottom. I have arthritis pretty bad at age 44 and my feet bother me standing still. As crazy as it sounds I would rather get a little wet than have sore feet! Thanks Brother I look forward to your gun selection. I just replaced my old shotgun with a Franchi elite and I freeking love it! Thanks wife!

@tylersee5483 3 жыл бұрын

No leaks is a must!

@dyl9943 3 жыл бұрын

This is by far my favorite duck KZfaq channel. You rock man!!!!!

@zanderdezarn9930 3 жыл бұрын

7:02 I have never owned a pair of waders or anything. What I want out of the waders is to finally be able to go do water hunts.

@bakerchrisclarke 3 жыл бұрын

I look for warmth and durability in waders. Hope you try a franchi affinity

@boredomfinderbee8808 3 жыл бұрын

Warm and flexible for these Idaho waters

@Mr0001jack 3 жыл бұрын

I want breathable waders with seams that don’t leak ! Thanks for all the great vids!!!

@Tyler_B. 3 жыл бұрын

I have to throw my vote in for the Remington V3. I’ve been running one for 3 years now and absolutely love it. It’s soft shooting and very reliable even with the lightest loads. I did a side by side felt recoil shoot with my v3 and a buddy’s 870 20g and the v3 was about half.

@michaelprince4171 3 жыл бұрын

I look for a pair of waders that fit my body contour, are comfortable, durable, and warm. I watched your wader video several weeks ago and liked how you broke down the pros and cons of the different big brands.

@thehunter6855 3 жыл бұрын

my most important thing that i look for in waders is how long they will last if treated well and properly taken care of.

@fromabrokenbranch9140 3 жыл бұрын

I always look for how well I can walk and not get fatigued. We hike into a lot of spots here in Northern California and neoprene waders can be brutal on hikes, which I have lol

@woodduck635 3 жыл бұрын

Since I only get to hunt a couple times each year, I need waders that are going to hold up well in storage, but still be reliable when I need them. I don't want to spend money on waders that will dry rot in 3 years. Also, I still shoot my old Winchester 1300 pump that I got in 1988. If I ever need to upgrade, I'll probably go to the Winchester SXP. It uses the same rotating block system that the 1200/1300 series used for 40+ years. It reduces recoil and speeds up the pumping process. You might give the SXP a try.

@hazenkeener6630 3 жыл бұрын

Waders with no leaky seams! And something that has decent insulated boots

@Roven58 3 жыл бұрын

I look for reduced weight and durability as I'm a walk in hunter. Great videos look forward to your choice on 20 gauge you'll be my test subject.

@francisvaliquette6972 3 жыл бұрын

The resistance of the fabric and the seems scealement

@EarlReagan 3 жыл бұрын

I really look for dependability in my waders and warmth. I still shoot a 12ga. It’s a beretta 390 from the 80s that my father purchased for his upland game hunting.

@MJslasherADMIN 3 жыл бұрын

Waders - The feature that I would like to see is a pair of waders where the boots do not crack and dry-rot after 1-2 seasons. I have went through 4 pairs of Cabelas waders in 5 years. My 10 year old went through two pairs of Lacross waders in three years due to boots leaking and is now using his very own Cabelas waders. Those should last about 1.5 seasons. While on a duck hunting trip to Kansas in late Oct 2020 my buddy had his waders start leaking. All of these issues above are from cracked boots (yes, we oil the boots but it doesnt seem to matter). I am the perfect candidate for a free pair of High N Dry waders.

@mr.bodyman822 3 жыл бұрын

I look for comfort and durability in waders as I use them for trapping.

@mattmurphy7394 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to try a pair of High & Dry waders. I'm 6'2 and need some length for comfort. I've been trying on breathable waders and reviews of the "big" names are spot on. Currently I just keep patching and adding rubber cement to my Cabela's brand breathable. Thanks for making an educational show! I've been learning a lot!

@jesseregister2435 3 жыл бұрын

Keep me DRY. It does not generally get that cold here in NC so I can layer up for warmth. But I hate leaky waders. I can not hunt and be comfortable if I am wet.

@erird514 3 жыл бұрын

Comfort and mobility , and keep me dry. God bless thanks for all you hard work and great info.

@coreyjohnson994 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I still use an old 870 super mag that my dad bought for me when I was 15, I'm 34 now. On the topic of waders, I prefer a pair that will hold up to the heavy sage brush and other vegetation that I often hike through to get to a spot.

@caseywhittington7801 3 жыл бұрын

Comfortable and dry for long hunts. I am swapping to High n dry when I replace my current waders due to the ability to layer according to my needs. Thanks for the videos.

@alexmont221 3 жыл бұрын

I would want a durable set of waders and warm ones since I walk in to my hunting spots

@jonathan9739 3 жыл бұрын

I need waders to fit right because I usually have to hike into my public hunting spots, sometimes over 2 miles. For me this means I need stout or husky fit which is hard to find...

@garyr6501 3 жыл бұрын

For waders I need something that can handle getting hit with sticks and bushes without tearing. Mine tore this morning so I had a 30lb right leg and a cold foot

@blacktailbowhunter0135 3 жыл бұрын

I shoot a mossberg 12 Gauge with 2 3/4” #6 and #4 for ducks and #2 and BB for geese. When my mom hunts with me, she shoots a 20 gauge 3” with #4 shot for ducks and #2 for geese. The 20 has very minimal recoil compared to my 12. They are both the same gun and theres a huge noticeable difference. If you have shoulder problems or just tired of the recoil, I think a 20 is perfect for shooting ducks over decoys within 30 yards.

@bradcausey5141 3 жыл бұрын

I look for waders that have good boots that keep my toes warm. The waders have to be tough as well. I shoot a 20 gauge and have enjoyed it the last few seasons.

@jamesallen4855 3 жыл бұрын

Those where my sons comments on your gun ,, myself i use a Franci, I like it

@travishintz9465 3 жыл бұрын

What I want most in waders is dependability and value. I am in the market for new waders because unfortunately I messed up and a mouse ate holes through them earlier this week. Wisconsin duck season ends next week so I will start shopping after that.

@Durtsche 3 жыл бұрын

Re: waders-durability! (And good shoulder buckle placement...had a pair of breathables where the buckle lined up with the where I put the butt of the stock when firing...took one shot before I unbuckled that side!)

@alexbyrom3851 3 жыл бұрын

Waders that are durable yet breathable!

@mitchsundwall2028 3 жыл бұрын

After only using neoprene for 25+ years, breathability and flexibility are important in a new set of waders for me. My 870 Super Mag has NEVER let me down in the 20 years I’ve owned it.

@justinhilderbrand2721 3 жыл бұрын

Buckles that don’t get in the way of shouldering the shotgun and throwing the shot off. I’ve learned to just unbuckle the shooting shoulder.

@kolintersey 3 жыл бұрын

What I want most is a durable and versatile pair of waders. Being from southern arizona insulated waders are often too hot to wear early season. I used to duck hunt with a 20 ga and I killed quite a few ducks with my 870 20ga. The biggest thing is picking your shots and trying to keep them within 40 yards.

@ajmassa5550 3 жыл бұрын

The most important is for the waders to not leak but next would be a built in fleece hand warmer

@hunterchadwick1632 3 жыл бұрын

Get the new Rogers waders they have the built in fleece hand warmer

@daylonhill6330 3 жыл бұрын

With this being my 2nd season to duck hunt. I bought a pair of Banded waders. I really dislike that the outer shell holds water and makes my feet heavy (unless I hold that layer up with my hands) and the front pocket doesn't have a hole in it for water to drain. So for me a pair of duck hunting waders needs to have a well thought out design for duck hunters, instead of what looks cool. Thanks again for all of the great videos. God bless.

@nikkibrooks2825 3 жыл бұрын

I look for waiters to be tough and abrasive resistant. I've had three different pairs of the three different years and they always start to leak in the seams. Next I look for warmth because some of those days in the marsh it's really cold here in Kansas.

@danieldempsey4149 3 жыл бұрын

Fit, I hike a lot in my waders and need something that I'm able to hike a few miles in.

@gunmedic3517 3 жыл бұрын

Foot comfort in the boot. Mobility and comfort with durable seams.

@joelkyriazes1361 3 жыл бұрын

What I want from waders is a tough dependable pair for when I’m walking through the swamp the boot won’t rip when I try to shimmy my foot out. (this may be personal experience)

@georgesumter247 3 жыл бұрын

I need a tough wader to handle hunting in green timber.

@justinwhite7192 3 жыл бұрын

They have to be breathable and tuff

@dylanmccullick9710 3 жыл бұрын

Warmth and durability is most important for waders!

@joekaiser3361 3 жыл бұрын

In a wader I need warmth overall because it can be very cold hunting in the Great Lakes and secondly foot /ankle support (which is hard to find in a wader boot) because we have a very long dirty rough walk out to Lake Huron.

@bangswitch6587 3 жыл бұрын

My Wader criteria is: 1. 5mm - for Warmth & Ice. In PA we have ICE ... LOTS OF IT. 3mm doesn't stand up to ice. Nothing worse breaking up ice in the early morning hours than slicing your waders open .... wet and cold all day. 2. BIG MAN SIZE - I'm 6'-2", 297 lbs, 46-inch waist, 55" chest & shoes size 13 EE. There's no part of "regular fit" that fits this big guy.

@stevensmith9651 3 жыл бұрын

Durability im new to duck hunting & have slowly been able to buy some necessary gear & its tough to even replace affordable waders. Enjoy the video's & thanks for the information & entertainment you are providing.