Is it worth spending $9k on a supercharger for your Tacoma?
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2 жыл бұрын#tacoma #supercharger #magnusonsupercharger
The 3.5l V6 3rd gen Tacoma is a great platform to build your overlanding or offroading rig from... BUT it is a bit down on power... Or power tuning, depending on your view point. Either way, there are a number of modifications and upgrades you can do to improve the power and transmission tuning. Everything from re-gearing to engine tuning. In the end, nothing beats a supercharger. BUT at almost $10k, is the Magnuson worth it? Thats what this review is all about. Lets take a look!
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@JoshEAllen 2 жыл бұрын
Mine installed by a Toyota dealership, that had done the install before, was closer to $8500. Still expensive, but not $9k-$10k.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great deal! My install at Toyota of Novato was $2400
@JoshEAllen 2 жыл бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive Nice, mine was done by Kendall Toyota of Bend. I’m originally from the Bay Area and I was trying to figure out which part of California your video was filmed in.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshEAllen SF Bay. China Camp area
@alexgarcia3900 2 жыл бұрын
You are right. Mine was done for 8900 so yeah he definitely over paid at 9k
@702probro9 2 жыл бұрын
Bro it’s not hard to install yourself…. Come on guys. Save the money for other mods perhaps.
@IAmGameAddicted 2 жыл бұрын
I like how honest the video is as well, especially about the price and how extensive it is, maybe a turbo kit for mine would be better in the future
@ronmac1832 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to justify 1/4 of the truck's value to get get such a modest power increase. $4k for an honest 100 hp and I might bite, but $8k for 60hp is a no go for me and I'm assuming many others too.
@alexgarcia3900 2 жыл бұрын
60 supercharged hp is fine. Don't wanna sacrifice longevity either.
@03tarserov64 2 жыл бұрын
But no supercharger kit is cheap, all the good kits I see r over 6 k
@2jsanc681 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@alexgarcia3900 2 жыл бұрын
If you want a fast car, get a sportscar.
@ronmac1832 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexgarcia3900 Or a Silverado with a V8.
@thefoodcan 11 ай бұрын
People completely miss the point of these superchargers, its not a race truck, peak hp and torq dont matter, what matters is the low end torq and hp it adds. especially if you add alot of overlanding gear that can get pretty heavy.
@JuniorJr_23 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to review.
@jonnytacooutdoors 11 ай бұрын
This is a better solution than dealing with motor swap problems and issues. Everything reminds factory as far as motor goes. Less changing stuff around means less room for running into things going wrong or breaking. I’m looking for a small power boost since I have 1000lbs out back. 💯🤛🏻 great video.
@MrDjones55 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you taking the time to sit down and really dive into your experience and living with the modification.
@bonn1771 Жыл бұрын
Nice review with this setup
@NAVYABHAN 2 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking very hard about getting one for my 2016 Toyota SR5 4Runner. I am also thinking about getting the 2023 when it comes out,and $8-10 grand is a very substantial down payment not including my trade which is at about $34 grand in value today. I think it's cheaper to watch you fella's spend the money!😀😉
@bquade70 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video 👍👍
@mmanalo76 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to do the supercharger setup with my 2017 TRD off road. From everyone comments it seems there are other alternatives (ov tune, regearing, etc.) As you stated in your video it's good to use it on the Freeway/Highway areas. I live in California and travel to Oregon doing overlanding with friends. I noticed you got that sweet camper from Oregon so you know the Mountain climb going there and back. I think the supercharger will definitely help especially passing those logger trucks.
@YerBoyTroy 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like anyone with gear on their truck and does frequent driving at altitude might find a lot of worth in this. As someone who has a fairly lightweight truck and got a tune on it, I'm still finding myself wanting more power at times. Just that the cost for this setup really has me thinking if it's really worth it
@adm7890 Ай бұрын
Why supercharger instead of turbo? I'm trying to learn
@Rieneger Ай бұрын
@@adm7890I am also learning but I been on car mechanics binge for months. Superchargers give instant response, do not require time to spool up when accelerating, and are simple in design to install (debatable). Turbochargers tend to be cheaper, have a warm up and cool down period when starting and shutting off your vehicle, delayed acceleration compared to superchargers, and not as simple to install. Both do the same thing in concept, they just function differently with their own pros and cons.
@adm7890 Ай бұрын
@@Rieneger hey, thank you for the info. It's appreciated
@smookee408 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed with the ECT engaged it has more low end performance. Added benefit is I noticed an mpg increase. Wanna have even more fun turn off traction control by holding down for 8 seconds and engage ECT for even more spirited driving.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t tried without traction. Either way, there is some good potential here.
@alexgarcia3900 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that I have a 2016 off road and when you hit the ect button it definitely gets snappier and feels more powerful. I also have a 2019 trd sport and that just holds the gears more and the transmission shifts a little faster and harsher.
@fredwomack2141 2 жыл бұрын
I re-geared my TDR Pro and added the Supercharger, driving in manual shift mode, seems to work well, moving from gear to gear on RPM'S I am now curious to try the traction control hack. and ECT mode
@smookee408 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredwomack2141 be very careful I hit a wet slick with some oil and fish tailed. Lucky I knew what I was doing and recovered without hitting anyone. I was making a left hand turn when my passenger side tires rolled over the slick. As I accelerated my rear broke loose . Got the whole thing on my dash cam and thats how I knew what happened after I reviewed the footage.
@fredwomack2141 2 жыл бұрын
@@smookee408 will do. I have some extra weight on back, pull kitchen, diamondback and icamper stage 3 Deaver leaf springs and rago shackles keeps it in check. the extra power is working out well.
@steelplastic2700 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll consider once my factory and extended warranty expires
@galenledbetter8014 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! Your stance looks good. What ride set up did you go with…Wheel?, Tire?, Coil-overs?, Lift kit?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
I have other videos that dive into my setup. Feel free to check them out. Overall I am running King 2.5s and 34KO2s
@edwinmonterroso5605 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to do it but Too many buts are no letting me do it Thanks for the video 😁
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t regret it. Since I filmed this video I have found the truck got a bit faster. Not sure why but I am loving it.
@PunisherDMT 2 жыл бұрын
Not exactly apples-to-apples, but I had a TRD supercharged 1st gen Taco 3.4, and now drive a TRD Supercharged 2nd gen Tundra 5.7. I installed an open-element air filter/intake kit on the Taco, and the supercharger noise was crazy loud under boost (I liked it). The Tundra has the intake that comes with the TRD kit, and it is very quiet.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be interested in something that works with the supercharger and the snorkel
@PunisherDMT 2 жыл бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive Yeah, I'd imagine the snorkel likely muffles any supercharger/intake sounds that much more...
@aschkansabaghi4901 Жыл бұрын
great video!
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@paulmatlock5969 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I have a 2021 TRD Pro 6 speed manual so I have no ECT thus your comments about the ECT button and the power response difference concerns me. Can you provide any thoughts on what I can expect if I were to choose this upgrade? My personal experience is with cars that have smaller turbo chargers that spool very quickly so I am curious what this can actually do for me with a manual transmission. I generally do not see the RPM's that automatic Tacoma's see for shift points. Just as an additional thought, I do have a different stock differential gear size than a Tacoma with an Automatic transmission. Looking forward to your thoughts and thank you.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
You should see better performance with a manual. However just remember it’s still a truck… not a race car. I for one don’t regret my choice. The truck feels great. It seems to have gotten better since I made this video. Hard to explain that part but it’s true. The truck feels more powerful now. I would say if you love your truck, do it. You won’t regret it.
@ajaygeorge79 2 жыл бұрын
Hi .. nice video .. your thoughts on the long term durability of the engine and how about the overall maintenance for the engine .. is the maintenance cost similar to stock or how's the difference??
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
The maintenance is the same. No real difference there. Also upon the install you should be doing all the fluids and spark plugs. As for longevity of the motor, it should be completely fine. The charger is designed to make sure the motor can reliably do 100k miles without any issues. That does assume you maintain the truck per the recommendation from Toyota. I wouldn’t hesitate to install it all over again.
@CaptainSkidmark74 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2nd gen, considered a Magnuson, but regeared it to 4.56s with a Detroit TrueTrac limited slip in the rear..... huge difference, even on 265/70r17s....it really should have been geared that way from factory. I may still supercharge it someday, but regearing gives a lot of bang for the buck vs supercharger.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
I am also running 5.29s. Regearing is great. But it doesn’t help you much on the freeway. You lose top end speed
@microsnook3 Жыл бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive This is what I am planning. 5.29s and charged. Living in CO with the thin air this truck doesn't move at all going up any grade. I have to be at 4k RPM to get anywhere.
@scottishd0g87 8 ай бұрын
You haven't experienced a supercharger then. That sh*t flies on the freeway.
@dwanewilson1509 Жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but I wanted to add to the forum. Purchased 2022 Taco 4x4 Trail Edition V6. When I got the truck, I immediately installed a 6inch lift, added rims and tires (295/70R18). Right after, I was frustrated with the lack of horsepower while driving back and forth from Plano to Austin here in Texas. Believe it or not, we have hills and during the commutes I was HATING the truck. It was constantly downshifting on climbs, sometimes 2 gears while trying to maintain 80 mph. Gas mileage was around 9.8mpg. I have done the following: Magnuson SC, K&N cold air intake, Flowmaster dual exhaust, and the pedal commander. I am using the pedal commander adjustments depending on driving conditions. THIS TRUCK IS A BEAST NOW!!! Gas mileage hangs around 12-14mpg. I can live with this. It is a lot of money to spend for all the mods, but I am FINALLY happy with my truck. This is a GREAT video, btw!
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@gregfiske3792 4 ай бұрын
The shop that installed the Magnuson told me that Pedal Commander doesn't play nice with the supercharger. I followed their advice. That was three years ago (2021). Have you had any issues with the Pedal Commander/Magnuson combo?
@waxifari5528 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. You mentioned you are approaching 7k ish lbs curb weigh I believe. I am going the route of holding onto my Pro suspension but having a custom leaf pack built to match the Fox kit for now because I am not interested in lifting (yet). I won't be near 7k at this phase. But I am curious if you upgraded breaks or anything else outside of your suspension to manage all that weight. And if so, how the truck feels from a ride and stopping power perspective. Thanks much!
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. Actually I am still on OE brake setup. However I am planning on adding an Alcon full disk/caliper upgrade in the coming months. My truck stops ok… but needs to improve.
@waxifari5528 2 жыл бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive Thanks. Future vid material? 🤔
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
@@waxifari5528 yup!
@goforbroke2 2 жыл бұрын
Wait……a minute how the hell did you add 2000lbs to your truck. Bumpers, sliders, cap, and wheels don’t add anywhere near that amount of weight. What am I missing???
@caseysmith8831 Жыл бұрын
What kind of fuel mileage are you getting? Any improvement with it?
@kamatekamatekaorakaora3459 8 ай бұрын
Cool vid Bro! Looks like we’re in the same town. Marin. San Rafael. Those Superchargers are fun indeed. Look up Diesel Toys in Texas. They do full Toyota Diesel builds in Tacomas and 4Runners. Bit pricey. But well worth it. I drove the Toyota Hi-Lux in Africa. Unstoppable. And a whole lot of awesome Torque. Great MPG too. See ya around town 🤙🏻🍻🇺🇸
@nulcable Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Maybe a bit more about the actual power boost. Those numbers flashed on the screen for 1 second wasn't long enough and I think it's the main reason people will watch the video. 9k... 278 horse to 370 is decent. Keep up the great work!
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
Solid feedback! Thank you
@christopherlaboy9377 2 жыл бұрын
I have been looking a Magnuson SC or Pro Charger for my Ram 5.7, but it really works against my primary goal of Max Range #LRAM 50 installed.
@santalla03 2 жыл бұрын
I just took my magnuson on off my ram 1500 hemi, it was fun but selling the vehicle. Supercharger is for sale!
@brianmiller6587 11 күн бұрын
I might have missed it but can you run 87 pump gas or do you need high test? Also, what is the MPG like compared to stock? Great video!
@PointShiftDrive 11 күн бұрын
Unfortunately you need to run 91 and up octane. As far as gas mileage I typically see about 1-2 less (mpg).
@eldeddy3287 6 ай бұрын
I just picked up a 2023 sr5. I’m looking to drop it and putting a street drag pack on it just to see what it can really do with this supercharger.
@lucasr5675 6 ай бұрын
Really nice video and review. Congratulations on the build. Question, how is the truck doing with the SC? Any issues or reliability challenges?
@PointShiftDrive 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Zero issues with the charger. The truck is actually very happy. Currently have 15k miles on the charger.
@BigPinger 5 ай бұрын
I've had my SC on for a number of years and yes there are issues with early component failure. I do not expect my Tacoma will make 250K+ miles like a stock one can be counted on for. Going back in this week for another (third) $1500-$2000 surgery. And it only has 103K miles on it!!! Superchargers are fun, but they most definitely shorten the lifespan of your vehicle
@lucasr5675 5 ай бұрын
If you don't mind, what has been the issue or issues with yours? Thanks.
@PointShiftDrive 5 ай бұрын
Lets also not make giant claims... I mean the way a truck is driven, the quality of the gas, the way it was maintained, etc all play a part into how long it can go. I am not saying our 3.5L with a mild charger will last 350k miles with no issues... but anyone who plans to drive that much needs to expect some issues in general with that much driving regardless of a charger or not. That being said, there is no evidence to suggest the Mag Super Charger is hurting the Toyota's V6. My truck feels great but I also maintain the hell out of it. Early on everything and always change my sparkplugs. Just my $.02@@BigPinger
@cervidvirg 2 жыл бұрын
Did you use your OEM exhaust system? Do you think there would be any more gains to be had if you had a performance exhaust system?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still running OE intake and exhaust. If you could openly tune for upgraded breathing then yes, more gains are certain. You can tell this is a conservative boost. Designed to go 100k miles but there is more power in there for sure.
@TheWookie_USN 2 жыл бұрын
My maggy and 5.29’s will be completed on Tuesday. Been waiting since I ordered last May (nitros) and August for the supercharger due to the supply chain crap. Lookin forward to it.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
You will love it
@davidb9323 2 жыл бұрын
Updates? And top speed ?
@happylego9141 3 ай бұрын
5:45 I can't remember where I read this but I saw somewhere that a vent on the high pressure side of the supercharger opens up to let it freewheel so it doesn't sap horsepower from the engine to try and save gas mileage when you're crusing at low throttle. I wish they came with a switch that went in one of the blanks to control this feature separately rather than tying it to the ECT button with the transmission so you can have the torque of the supercharger in the low end of the RPM range without the truck having the delayed shift points.
@irishdefense77 2 жыл бұрын
ECT is an increase in total timing-of course you’re going to feel more performance with a blower.
@BOMBPHONICS Жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 2017 TRD off-road last week and was thinking I might like to get it supercharged at some point. I would definitely like it to be a little quicker.
@wadetorgerson1277 4 ай бұрын
Easy to tune with OTT tune and it increased hp and refines gearing
@DBCoffroad Жыл бұрын
Great video! Honest review 👍🏻 I supercharged my 2021 4Runner and feel your commentary is spot on. The 4Runner supercharger has less HP/TQ gains than the Tacoma however. So in my initial opinion, I don't necessarily think it was worth the cost. It definitely makes the 4Runner better, but maybe not for the money. And like you said, if I let someone else drive it, they might not even realize its Supercharged. Thanks for the video!
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
I didnt know that about the 4runner. its a bit of a bummer for sure. However, I dont regret it because the truck drives well. without it, it was like yanking an elephant up a hill with a rope
@DBCoffroad Жыл бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive haha. I agree with that too. It’s definitely needed for the elephant
@edfig Жыл бұрын
Do you think changing the gear to 529 is better?
@lawyerup1time785 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Would like to know value of this vs gears.
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
Gears have more value I suppose. But remember that that means ripping open your gear boxes. If done by a crappy shop, good luck with results
@YerBoyTroy 2 жыл бұрын
One interesting thing to note is that this very same SC makes much bigger gains on the 3.6 Pentastar that you see in Jeeps (440 ish horsepower vs the 390 claimed for the Tacoma) in stock form both of these engines have near identical power outputs. Seems on a Jeep this setup is more bang for your buck. Wonder why that is
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
hmm interesting, wonder if that has to do with CARB
@Mattmazz77 7 ай бұрын
That's crazy, the reason why you would want a supercharger is because the power is there throughout the rpm range. Supposed to come right on. I believe a smaller pulley would help and I don't know if there is a intercooler but if not that would definitely help too.
@BrainSOSmoof 2 жыл бұрын
i just emailed with harrop, and they dont have a supercharger kit for this tacoma yet, they said they are still working on it and will contact me when it is available.
@lyricalman20 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I saw this before I bought it definitely not going to now
@mariodiaz2524 Жыл бұрын
I was watching you review on the supercharge. Do you know a good shop who can install and tune the installation? Thanks
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
As far as I know, Magnussons tune is locked. You can’t have someone else tune it. At least for now. Any decent mechanic can install this. It actually is pretty straight forward.
@derppman5588 2 жыл бұрын
Try throwing in a S&B cold air intake and you’ll get the sound you want. Supercharger is definitely on my list of thing to drop into the taco but I can swear by the added noise of the cold air intake plus it looks so damn clean!
@ragerow 11 ай бұрын
I hear you, but the factory air intake is technically more of a "cold air intake" because it's a closed system away from the hot air in the engine bay. For whatever reason the open air filters have been called "cold air" intakes... You're literally pulling the hot air from the engine bay. The only benefit you're getting is sucking in more air, albeit, It is warmer air than you would with the stock intake. If you were able to get a system that pulled actual cold air while getting more air intake, that would be the ticket.
@jesussaves33 11 ай бұрын
I put a k & n cold air intake and it takes off, add a pedal accelerator and I leave all them slow pokes behind.
@user-rm6bh6os7y Жыл бұрын
How much does it reduce gas mileage? Considering sc for recently purchased auto trans 2022 TRD offfroad. I have a Mangnson sc on my 2004 TRD manual gen 1 Tacoma. Old Taco feels more powerful, although has 50 less hp, will hold 5th gear on fairly steep hills at 75+. I do love it but the whine is loud. While I do enjoy sound for short drives, gets super annoying after 4-8 hrs on long trips. If I drive conservatively I get 18-20 ish. When driving the way I prefer my worst is about 13.
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
It’s hard to say. We aren’t comparing apples to apples. Depends on your weight, aero, elevation, etc. for me I only saw about a 1-2 mpg difference
@scottvaj4434 8 ай бұрын
If your truck weighs over 5200 lbs, look into Procharger or URD applications. The Magnuson just doesn't make enough power for the money on loaded down Tacomas. However, if your setup is lighter (or stock), the Magnuson(+ a tune) is an awesome performance upgrade and you will not want to go back to N/A!
@kungfumtb310 Жыл бұрын
How was gas mileage before and after The install . I have a KD max pro tune and 5.29 gears And was thinking of adding this charger
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
I think I lost maybe 2 MPG. But gained a more drivable truck
@fullhd1080 Жыл бұрын
Hi, do you still own this truck.. if so how has the supercharger held up so far? Advantages/disadvantages? I'm looking at a 2021Taco TRR and it has the Magnuson superchanger installed.
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
Yes. Still own the truck. Have about 20k miles on it since I charged it. It’s been ace. 👍
@LimitedGunnerGM Жыл бұрын
Sounds like building my own turbo setup and getting it tuned is the more cost effective way to go. Especially some mine is a manual.
@scottishd0g87 8 ай бұрын
But you'll never do it though
@tacosauce4x4 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I was looking into potentially doing this mod, and it just doesn't seem worth it for the cost. I feel like I'd get more out of new gears.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
If you are not running heavy, gears are first. Once you get heavier, gears won’t be enough.
@ozzzzy939 Жыл бұрын
How much more power would you get out of regearing?
@warrenlucier5796 Жыл бұрын
@@ozzzzy939 You will get torque multiplication from installing a higher numerical gearset and this enables quicker acceleration or load pulling ability.
@markmanriquez3208 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the pedal commander with the magnusson?...
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
No. it is not recommended
@IAmGameAddicted 2 жыл бұрын
good informative video, i want to turbo my tacoma for a bit more performance and mpg since i drive efficiently, if anyone knows, for a 2.7 liter engine ( 2013 and its a very basic truck but its a fun truck tbh), if anyone has any thoughts please share, id get a turbo kit, performance air intake, id have to change the fuel pump maybe? this is a goofy idea to me but i think it would be fun af
@sschevmale24 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota should of did that from factory. That 2.7 is way underpowered
@tgkg 2 жыл бұрын
If Toyota decides to go 4cylinder turbo for the next gen, im sticking to 3rd gen supercharge.
@yventurajr 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I decided to get a 3rd gen Tacoma now cuz I wasn’t sure the next gen would have a v6 and I’m definitely planning on supercharging it in the next 2 to 3 years.
@emorse912 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping they would do a twinturbo v6... but they put that in the new Tundra, too bad. I'm sure they'll go electric and 4cy turbo deisel on the 4th gen.
@tgkg 2 жыл бұрын
@@emorse912 when I saw the "how diesel engine works" video from Toyota, I was excited then after the new tundra came out, they said only hybrid because toyota trying to go green, it was deflating. And there's no way toyota will ever put diesel in the tacoma, it will kill their sales on the big brother, tundra.
@emorse912 2 жыл бұрын
@@tgkg maybe. I know Toyota is pushing for global consistency among their vehicles. The Hilux is diesel... they had planned for the 3rd gen to be diesel but went back and did a smaller v6... it's not working out as people think it's under torque. We will have to wait and see.
@tgkg 2 жыл бұрын
@@emorse912 from what I understand so far why toyota won't offer diesel in the tacoma or tundra is because of hefty tax of importing diesel engines. Unless toyota opens another department in their facility here in North America that builts their awesome diesel engines, we won't be seeing diesel options anytime soon.
@ShootingSportz Жыл бұрын
I see you are in California / Bay area as well. Is this supercharge CARB / CA legal?
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
Yes, CARB legal
@thisiscovy2351 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment about the unit having a short power band got me thinking. Having done A LOT of research on this, since im looking to potentially get one myself, I think the limited powerband is due to your regear. A lot of the testing done with this specific unit was for stock geared tacomas where they see a very nice linear power increase throughout a full gear. Im curious as to whether or not this supercharger on a stock geared truck will actually allow the truck to hit 6th without going 80 on a freeway lol, or if i still need to consider 4.88's Great video, awesome feedback, NICE TRUCK!
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
💯 my gearing holds back some top end speed. That’s the trade off of regearing. However the truck still feels great as is. I don’t have any complaints really. I think if the supercharger was available at the time I regeared I might have just done that Instead. But there are advantages with my current set up. This truck leaps off the line! It feels so good at lower speeds, which is where you spend most of your time. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the video.
@Wxman9123 2 жыл бұрын
Well I was considering regearing and a S/C for more towing ability but Toyota dealer offered me $5k more than what I paid for my Tacoma so just gonna get a new Tundra instead.
@scottishd0g87 7 ай бұрын
Good move. Don't bother with a Taco if you're always towing. Now supercharge the Tundra!
@herpderp1662 2 ай бұрын
Hate to revive the vid, but considering the new 24 tacoma is 65 grand, putting a supercharger on your likely paid off 3rd gen is seeming like a GALAXY BRAIN 4d chess decision at this point.
@PointShiftDrive 2 ай бұрын
The new Tacos are expensive!
@tieoneon1614 Жыл бұрын
{to those of you without added weight} Keep the Bro Dozer AT tires off, add an intake and a tune for couple hundred bucks and the 3.5 is less than 1 second behind my twin turbo F150 0-60mph. Its not a slow engine. Biggest issue is understanding the auto trans and using it correctly. Having it 2 gears too high and rpm's at 1300 trying to accelerate doesnt work. The ECT button will do it for you without a tune but I use the S mode a lot to lock out 5th and 6th gears in the city or towing.
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
S mode doesn’t hold gears. It does to an extent but it will shift for you if it thinks it needs to. Plus the truck doesn’t feel happy at 5-6k rpm. This drivetrain just doesn’t like being revved. It was designed to meet fuel regulations across Toyotas lineup. It allows them to produce the V8 (at the time) of the Tundra. The transmission was engineered to optimize fuel consumption while keeping ok power. It just doesn’t do a good job of that. Hence why people look to tunes and other mods to improve the issue. Nothing will truly solve it though. If you love the Tacoma, you just need to find what you are comfortable with and learn to live with it.
@Eleven-dk4be Жыл бұрын
I've been looking into regearing my 2017 tacoma... might be the best thing into some sensible increased power
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
Its a worthy while modification. HOWEVER, a couple things to consider... 1) it doe NOT add more power. just pulls more useable power into a range you spend more time in. 2) many gear installs make noise. like sounds like something is broken but its not. as long as you are ok with that, go for it!
@Eleven-dk4be Жыл бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive hmm.. interesting. Thanks for the info. I've been watching alot of upgrades for my truck. Working on making a good choice
@jjboyyyy0965 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking to get a supercharger, only big question I have is did it solve the ‘gear hunting’ I got the 5.29 and a shit ton of weight probably similar to what you have if not more , in my head .. more power would equal it holding gears in hills which will ultimately result in better mpg, I get around 10-14mpg on the highway, live in a state with a lot of hills , from your experience would I benefit from the supercharger?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
My truck doesn’t hunt for gears anymore. I actually think it drives great with the supercharger. I know it’s not a huge noticeable gain but when you consider what we are moving it’s great. I can never go back
@cyorgancilar 2 жыл бұрын
I am almost the same with you. 7,5K curb weight and 5.29 gears. I am also in between with pedal commander or supercharger.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyorgancilar I can’t go back.
@adrianw3985 Жыл бұрын
A stock truck is 4400 pounds, is your truck that heavy with all your gear? Are you at the stock 3.91 gears? I want to go 5.29 gears on mine before I do anything else and see how it is. Anyway, thanks for the info.
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
Yes, my truck is probably closer to 6000lbs as of today. Consider all the armor, bumpers, 35's, gears, camper, drawers, dual batteries, etc It adds up!
@SAPPER510 2 жыл бұрын
At what mileage do you need to do a rebuild on the the super charger and what is the estimated cost for the rebuild?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a question for Magnusson but they built this charger to go 100k miles. Superchargers have come a long way. This is also a pretty conservative boost so that helps retain reliability
@SAPPER510 2 жыл бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive Thanks for the info. 100K miles is a good amount of miles.
@OswaltSamuel Жыл бұрын
Are you able to change the spark plugs without removing the unit?
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
yes.
@john-martin Жыл бұрын
Can you add a smaller pulley? That would give you a larger power band.
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
Not sure. That would probably need a tune change as well. Not to mention it might void Magnusson’s warranty
@iWubmusic 2 жыл бұрын
So is it better to just go for the pro charger?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
There is no charger from TRD for the 3rd gen. But regardless this is still a great setup. You just need to know how to extract the power. Plus remember that my truck is pretty heavy. If it wasn’t all built out, it would feel fast. Something to consider
@eelana7951 2 жыл бұрын
Three things, intake will help the supercharger and you will get more noise, if you add a boost gauge you would be able to tell if that button effects boost or not, and also i feel that a supercharger would be a lot more driveable with a manual, stick is pretty slow so a supercharger would be nice but i wouldn't have to worry about the time it shifts so in that aspect i think a manual would be ideal for something like this, but im also extremely biased when it comes to manual
@trukbones1672 2 жыл бұрын
Half of the comments on here have to do with ect, and it's nice to see someone comment about the manual. I have a manual 20trdpro because I had no interest in the shifting issues with the a/t.
@chandlerplante3389 Жыл бұрын
Really interested what your fuel mileage looks like. This a hopeful mod for the future but it's sounding like single digit mpg
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
I get about 10-12 MPGs (average)
@BigPinger 5 ай бұрын
Don't forget that not only will you be filling up a LOT more often, but you will also be paying an extra $20 per fill above regular gas due to the premium gas only requirement. An extra $100+ a month is normal for normal daily driving.
@chandlerplante3389 5 ай бұрын
@BigPinger Yeah I run 91 anyways. I know the truck isn't really meant for it but seems to get slightly better mpg and I live in a cold state where the cheap gas gets switched to "winter mix" which is pretty garbage.
@marczitnay5285 Жыл бұрын
have you checked out YotaWerx Tuning and the "Stryker" tune option for the 3GT with Magnuson sc?
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
I haven’t. Is it supposed to be better? Did Magnuson open up their tunes to the aftermarket?
@marczitnay5285 Жыл бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive it's a massive improvement and overhaul of the tune. Magnuson didn't unlock their tune. YotaWerx developed it on their own for the 90mm pulley and are working on 87mm pulley as well as some additional fueling options for those who are interested
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
@@marczitnay5285 Thats great! thanks for the info
@mrtomatohead 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s my theory: coming from a owning a root type supercharger car before. 1. The tvs1900 comes with mechanical wastegate, thus any mode will not make difference to how the blower works. 2. ECT holds gear longer, so inherently it gives the engine defect more air from the blower, which will call for more timing/fuel = tq and power. I could be wrong
@robertyoung8289 2 жыл бұрын
I supercharged my Tundra with a TRD. I was very disappointed. The big problem was it wasn't inercooled. It was way faster for a short period then it would become heat soaked and became basically useless. Is this one inercooled?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this one has a built in inner cooler. a must for sure!
@robertyoung8289 2 жыл бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive Ok..I'm back on board then. Thank you.
@yourejustintim 2 жыл бұрын
Magnuson
@ThatMountainMoment Жыл бұрын
Gears, though expensive as well but not close to a SC, are much better bang for buck and will make the truck utilize its power in a more usable way for what most tacoma will be used for.
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
There is an order of operations. A tune, gears, eventually SC. Though in California tunes are restricted smog wise. The Magnuson is CARB legal! That’s huge appeal. But gears alone don’t solve the problem. Sure helps down low but your spinning more RPM on the freeway and losing top end punch. The band of application in the 3.5 is pretty narrow. The combination of gears and SC make the Tacoma what it should have been from the factory. A platform you can build off of. But again, I’m California a tune means you void your warranty and SMOG. So you just need to be careful. The MSC is CARB legal and doesn’t void your Toyota warranty. That’s a big plus!
@lost-yooper 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2019 trd pro. I run 33’s and put 4:88 front and rear diff a front Eaton Locker, a Peddal commander and its perfect. Less than a supercharger!
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an awesome build so far
@supdude5481 2 жыл бұрын
Sprint booster is way better brother Pc is a nock off sorry to say man
@alexgarcia3900 2 жыл бұрын
How much horse power did you get from the lockers?
@OhDreamerr 5 ай бұрын
did it raise the top speed or make it faster at all?
@PointShiftDrive 5 ай бұрын
Don’t believe it effects top speed. However it’s for sure faster. My truck was noticeably slower without it. If my truck didn’t have all this weight it would be more noticeable
@AguilaJR 2 жыл бұрын
What's your mpg after install?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
14-15mpg
@bboyguambomb 2 жыл бұрын
Are forged rods and pistons needed?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
No. Not needed. This kit is designed for the motor from factory
@donthesheek 2 жыл бұрын
Add a Sprint throttle pedal booster, big improvement without a SC, with a SC will probably blow your socks off.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you can run both. I mean you could but not really needed. Just hit the ETC button and you are good
@garyleboff1409 11 ай бұрын
I had a 2008 Toyota tundra supercharged... It was not that way... It was a great daily driver and when I laid into it it was a beast!! If I'm spending $9,000 on a supercharger, I expect a beast when I floor it! And not have to push a f****** button to get it!!
@PointShiftDrive 10 ай бұрын
I agree. But my truck is heavy. I think if it weren’t totally built, it would be fast. For a truck.
@johnyracercat 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 1999 Tacoma with a TRD Supercharger years ago. It whined and it was fast. Required premium gas and it seem like it made the truck harder to sell. It added zero value to the truck. It may even be a detractor. For the price and the minor gains, I think I will put the money towards a second fun vehicle like a Corvette instead.
@jdmricerkid1120 Жыл бұрын
The ect button feels more powerful because that has the transmission hold you in a higher rpm, and the supercharger is pushing more psi at that rpm than a lower rpm as if you were in normal Drive gear
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
That makes perfect sense. However in order to hold the rpm’s at a higher spin rate, there needs to be a map alteration.
@tieoneon1614 Жыл бұрын
ECT advances the throttle. Im surprised so many people dont know this. Thats why it feels more powerful
@stevepatch1809 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a cold air intake will open up the sound of the supercharger
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. However there isn’t a known kit that works with both the supercharger and the snorkel. If find something I’ll make a video testing it out. I’d love to do before and after dyno testing too
@LoneScout1 Жыл бұрын
I’d never have it any other way. Best done on a manual transmission because the SuperCharger is all about being the “driver, not the passenger”. Maybe Toyota will do better with the new 8 speed automatic but truth be told it baffles me why anyone would chose an automatic unless they are handicapped/have mobility issues.
@markreams3192 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think there’s a difference in seat of the pants feel between the SC and a KDmax tune? Keep in mind the tune is only about $3-400. Do you think the super charger would be a game changer when towing?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
There is a difference for sure. But it depends on so many factors. Your climate, the quality of gas, tire quality, etc. but overall the charger is more. Simply put. No it’s not going to feel like a mustang gt 500 but then again it’s a truck. I’ll say it another way. When I was running a tune it seemed like we were always upgrading the version of the tune. Ever since I got the supercharger I haven’t even thought about it twice. It just works.
@CotyBasa-Oahustate808 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been reading about how magnusen provides a tune for it but i wouldnt trust it considering it doesnt account for whatever mods you do, just for OEM setup. When i decide to get a taco, it wont be on OEM setup so i would go to other places for tuning.
@marczitnay5285 Жыл бұрын
check out YotaWerx Tuning and their tune for this kit
@scottishd0g87 7 ай бұрын
Well of course it has to come with a default tune. Did you tune your mods while N/A? You should always be custom tuning your custom mods for max performance.
@orbea4 2 жыл бұрын
Your video looks like you're driving around San Rafael/Peacock Gap/China Camp. Would you every consider a meet up so I can see your Super Pacific in the flesh? I MTB at China Camp regularly.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe. It would all depend on my hectic schedule
@orbea4 2 жыл бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive Thank you for considering. If others ask to see your Super Pacific we could all do it at the same time. We could be respectful of your time and meet up in the Whole Foods parking lot to keep it easy.
@ronnieffmedicz4713 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone done a supercharger with truck being re-geared? Mine has 5.29 just wondering what difference that would make
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
I am running 5.29s.
@joe-ng3ky 2 жыл бұрын
V8 all the way cheaper but a little more time LS1 in my 05 it looks factory find a donor car transfer parts
@menomart69 2 жыл бұрын
Does it get better gas mileage?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if you drive it normally it’s about the same. If you floor it all the time then expect it to drain the tank
@peterfrigeri4495 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone have experience with the SC on a manual TRD OFFROAD? Does anyone have experience with the supercharger pulling 4 or 5k pounds? The truck is pretty stock
@gregfiske3792 4 ай бұрын
My 2019 Taco Offroad (automatic), was regeared (5.29), at the same time as the Magnuson install. HUGE improvement. I occasionally pull a 3500 lb. camper trailer in Colorado mountains (7000 to 10,000 ft. elevation). It's easy to blow past an F-150 slowly pulling an Airstream up the hill.
@JoseGarcia-tr9mp 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I'll be honest, that kind of cost for what you get at the wheels is just not worth it. The projected numbers are cut almost in half when you measure the power gains at the wheels. I put an AFE CAI on my 2023 TRD Off-Road and did the OTT Tune for right around 1000 bucks and my truck feels great! And, like yours, mine is very heavy because it's set up for Overlanding. The OTT Tune even gave me back the mpg's that I lost when I added all of the weight. For 4 grand, I probably would do the supercharger, but for 8-10k, it's just not worth it IMO.
@pushermanva757 6 ай бұрын
That's it i'm doing it.
@commonintel 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a no for me. I have 4.88s regear and a OVTune. I'll get by on those. Thanks for the great video! You saved me $9k+
@davidcao4192 2 жыл бұрын
How is the gas mileage after supercharger.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly not bad. Sometimes its down but sometimes it’s up. Depends on how you drive obviously
@fulghja 27 күн бұрын
What did adding that do to your MPG on average?
@PointShiftDrive 27 күн бұрын
Brought it down 1-2 mpg
@fulghja 25 күн бұрын
@@PointShiftDrive thank you. I've been wrestling with the idea.
@PointShiftDrive 24 күн бұрын
@@fulghja it’s not cheap but I like how it adds power without too much compromise
@andyalmeida8356 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you would hear the whine more if you had a cone on a stick air filter... I know I can hear my 3rd gen engine noise a lot more with the k&n intake system (I put 400k miles on my 2nd gen, don't tell me they are a bad thing, no problems at all). No trouble passing with it either... I don't think the 9g's is worth it. My Tacoma will shit it and get it right up to the 115mph governor, uphill no problem if I need it to. 4300-4800 lbs curb weight sir.
@PointShiftDrive Жыл бұрын
I need to do an update video. Since making this I have more insight to what it’s like to live with. I also think that though expensive, there are more positives I didn’t cover. But thank you for your perspective
@fernandovasquez5251 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Doesn't seem like it's worth it from what your saying. Unless you don't add weight to your truck. Bigger tires, off road bumpers.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Actually what I am saying is that if you are heavy it is worth it. It’s just not going to be fast. But much better than it was. If you are light, A tune is enough. Unless you crave more speed. In which situation go for it
@Berry833 2 жыл бұрын
Are you regeared too?
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@jimmycline4778 Жыл бұрын
Why is it so hard to get real power out of a Tacoma, unless you LS swap it like the one guy did, I blame the transmissions they are so weird, I’m selling my new 2022 to get a all new GMC Canyon, 310hp over 400 pounds of torque, it would probably beat a Tacoma with a S.C. I would be so mad if I payed that much and it didn’t make a super charger whine and not get now real power out of it, if it did make some good power you would have showed us, but you didn’t and I know why! What a disappointment, but I thought of doing what you did and thank goodness for this video! That GMC explodes on take off!
@racer0316 2 жыл бұрын
Very few people are going to admit that spending between 7 and 10 Grand wasn't worth it, that's alot of ego to swallow. When you said if you didn't know it was supercharged you probably wouldn't notice, you said it all, for that kind of money I damn well better notice. I'll spend my money elsewhere thank you very much.
@PointShiftDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter what I spent on a modification. An honest review is just that. Honest. But please don’t miss the point. The truck felt waaay slower without it. Even with an OV tune. It just got heavy. The charger solves much of the issue. It’s just not a race Car.
@scottishd0g87 8 ай бұрын
7-10 grand ain't much to some people so it's worth it. How else are you gonna have a supercharged Tacoma?
@racer0316 8 ай бұрын
@@scottishd0g87 having the money and it being worth it are two very different things.
@DinoAnthonyFilms 5 ай бұрын
ECT OTT TUNE is what solves that shifting problem says the forums
@jamiem6792 4 ай бұрын
Has anyone following here supercharged a stock Taco? Meaning, not a 7,000lb rig setup for overlanding through an apocalypse. I have a '23 Trail Team and I'm looking to improve flat out performance and towing capacities. Right now it's a dog here in the NE w/ a 12' trailer and SxS. Thanks!
@PointShiftDrive 4 ай бұрын
An OV tune is probably all you need
@jimcatanzaro7808 4 күн бұрын
Im not sure if the trans will handle it
@PointShiftDrive 2 күн бұрын
The transmission has no issues.
@bredrickbussey7523 Жыл бұрын
People, it’s not a race car🤣🤣🤣. If you want your Taco to run like a race car, go buy a race car. I think the review is on point and many people are missing the overall value in what is being presented. 🤣
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