Seriously i love your channel and i am telling you content is always king, i have multiple videos that went viral and where shoot on 720p on a phone!!! So the best advice is to produce content that you love and gives value to your audience, you upgrade gear when you can and because you like it, not because of views! Great videos seriously keep it up

Enjoyed this video. Keen observations. Your channel is small now but you've got it. Great voice, appealing personality and something of value to say. Subscribed.

Just subbed! This was really insightful, thank you!

Great video as always. You are a natural at this. Sharpness can be overrated, especially when you want something to look more "cinematic". In fact I think for the longest time cinema cameras were shooting in 2 k and uploading to 4 k. Most REDS have a very soft 4K. Hyper realistic is actually the opposite of "cinematic" so a softer video, with inaccurate colours and shot in a lower frame rate (24P gang!! :p ) will look more cinematic. The same has applied to photography for a long time which is why many photographers would search to find and use old classic lenses that are soft and imperfect compared to the clinically sharp modern lenses. And ultimately yes, content matter more than anything else. Camera Conspiracies has never had great looking video (imho respectfully) but his content is usually so good that I would rather watch his stuff over say, Tony Northrup or Gerald Undone. The only real benefit to higher resolutions is for larger screens and greater viewing distances. And yes, as you said, most people watch videos on KZfaq, on their phones... and yet KZfaqrs love to knock cams for not having the sharpest 4K image, or "only 8 bit"... when the final output is going to be in highly compressed 8 bit KZfaq videos viewed on mobile formats 99.9% of the time. PS. I've actually never watched a Mr Beast video....

The last 3 years ive honed my photography skills on a 13 year old Canon t3i and convinced myself I needed a new Sony to shoot 4k video if I were to ever start my own channel. Fuck that, I'll just start. Appreciate the perspective!

Well you got my sub, wishing you the best of success with your efforts! Great information.

That is great content. Few years ago I had this dilemma when setting up my studio and found out good 1080 clean hdmi out can deliver sharper than most 4k cameras

Wow I am so glad I found your channel! I film a combination of Vlogs and talking head videos about my life here in El Salvador 💙 🇸🇻 and I try to provide the best image quality for my viewers but have always questioned these settings as I've upgraded over the years. My main camera is my phone Samsung s22 ultra, though I also use the dji osmo action and mini se drone. I have been shooting in 2160 60 fps on both my phone and action but the highest my drone will do is 2720x1530 30fps so when I edit I downgrade the other footage to match my drones settings 2720x1530 30 fps and I export it and upload to youtube like this as well with mixed results. I use filmora x to edit and would love to edit and upload in 4k but I'm not sure my laptop can handle that though filmora offers an edit with proxy option now I've been too scared to try 😅. In your opinion is it worth editing in 1530 (kind of like 2k) or should I film and edit in 1080 or bite the bullet and try proxy files at 2160?

Nice video and robot dancing! I record on my iPhone 14 Pro Max in 1080p with just the celling lights on and have NEVER had anyone complain about my video quality. BUT uploading in 4k? New to me... looking into it!

This video is really helpful. Thank you. I'm in the process of uploading my first video to KZfaq. I'm finding it takes a LONG TIME to upload in 4K. Next time I am going to try 1080p. Thanks for all your suggestions. PS I have a Sony ZV 1 Mark II camera which I really like.

Great video! Very informative!

dude.. for real, at the moment im struggling to get my mind together in this thematic :D i was sure to go with my FX30 then i saw your APSC vs. FULLFRAME COMPARISON, i was directly going to search up some good used or retoure FX3's on some websites, now you showed that Mr. Beast clip and this brought me back to reality :D To answer your question: im just in the beginning but i have to say, that in all im pretty happy with my Sony FX30 in combination with all my amaran Lights.. its more like a lack of skill to use all of it how i should. Im trying to get a more "cinematic Talking Head style" because the storys im going to tell will be much more dramatic and kinda Horror, in a dark Setup with Red lights in the focus. but still i wanna go with the 4K without ND, Smog, or Mist filters, i will try what looks good with the VST named "Scatter" it simulates any Filter in a very accurate way, you should check that one ;) and 4K just to get the Highest quality. You always can grade/edit it more cinematic, blurry etc, but a lower quality... no chance, details are gone.. greetings

Wow... Insightful thoughts..👍

video is super informative but the ending was like damn so cute...lovely stuff

Well said. Totally agree. Wrestling with whether I need a computer to process 4k video (ZVE-10). In my test yesterday, FYI, 60fps at 50M in HD was sharper than 40k at 24fps at 50m. Faster to process, sharper image. Interesting. Of course, other factors. But. Proved interesting. Appreciate your video/opinion.

Great video and comparison!

I am a note-to-color music theorist who started making re-mix videos and music videos because I started getting good at documenting my own music perceptions. I did a series of three Sia music videos, and on the last one (just today) I decided to upload a video saved as 4k and a 1080p save, but both in private mode (unreleased). This means that I do not SHOOT if 4k, I only upload the video as a 4k vs 1080p file. Because I work with found-footage off the internet. Or shoot using Snapchat characters, with is not 4k by any means. So my advice here applies to SAVING and UPLOADING a file as 4k. // I compared each of my uploads back to back in two different uTube windows. I was SHOCKED to find that the 4k was more crisp and detailed. Also, the audio was also slightly deeper and more resonant. For the audio I use very high-qualtiy studio headphones (Sennheiser HD 600's), so they were able to show very clearly the difference. All this being said, because I am doing very artistic type of videos, for me uploading in 4k is suddenly crucial for me. I am lamenting that I uploaded all of my past videos as 1080p. YET, if someone is going a live Podcast in a talk-show situation, or stuff like this, I think 1080p would be fine. ALSO, the better audio quality of 4k (as far as my ears told me), could be seen as insignificant once you play the video/audio in your car on on your home stereo. My equipment is high-end studio stuff. In closing: my experiments with 4k uploads in post-2023 showed results of WORSE quality. So, uTube must be processing/compressing 4k videos better now. Bottom line, if you upload in 4k your video will be slightly more crisp, and your 1080 will be fuzzier. If you have show-off visual video, it might be a good idea to upload in 4k. HOWEVER, I am working on a Macintosh, and using (and saving the videos) using Final Cut Pro--a Mac based program. Everything I just told you might possible ONLY apply to Final Cut Pro MAC users! Ha. Hope this gives some insights as far as uploading is concerned. And, incidentally, my new Sia video can be found a the top of the page here at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole!_ Thanks, everyone, and thank you to SADH Studios for making some very important videos!!!

Cuando tenga una comunidad que al primer día me deje 30k vistas, ahí recién invertiré para 4k

3:41: I laughed hard. That's exactly me! At the moment I'm trying to figure out if I should upload in 1440p or 2160p (4K).

4:30 yup 😅 this is what Roger Deakins does for his movies 😅 He'll shoot in 1080p on a goddamn Arri Alexa then upscale to 2.5K. I think he now shoots 4K but that's like in the past 4yrs or so he's changed. Whenever 1917 came out, he decided to shoot 4K. He used to say the files for 4K were too big and unnecessary b/c he got the same or better quality from lower resolution then upscaling.

MR BEAST NEVER CHANGE 😂 HIS 1080P QUALITY VIDEO ARE SUPER BECAUSE HE GET MORE BEAUTIFUL IDEAS .BTW LOVE YOUR CONTANT I AM THE OLDEST VIEWER FOR THIS VIDEO 😂🤣😘

I'm not a content creator but as someone that watches a whole lotta youtube, I def appreciate the higher quality stuff.

1080p rendered in 4k is what i learned by accident a while ago. So what i do is i film everything in 1080p and just render 4k to make it look sharp. And you're 1000% right about content over quality of pixels. 👍🏻

i'm curious why not use a camcorder? I have an older Canon Vixia HF G10 and quite like this line of prosumer camcorders. I'm no expert here but have read a ton of blogs that basically say camcorders are more suited for recording longer videos and that cameras that record video either can't record long enough or subject to over heating or lack key features when shooting video vs taking photos. Example, having an external monitor. Maybe the lines are more blurred now a days (2023) but if this topic is worth covering, I'd appreciate seeing this topic discussed or some PROs and CONs highlighted. Just found your channel, love your content!

what software do you use to upscale 1080 to 4k?

I subscribed to you because you shoot in 4K and your content is good. In an equal playing field where you weigh story over quality, a story always wins, but the story alone will lose to a good story plus good quality. If you are going to create great stories, might as well shoot in the best quality possible. I shoot with GFX 100S for all my travel pics, 100mp, overkill? Yes for now. But when I take photos for memories, I'm future proofing in for my great-grandchildren in the future. Yeahs, in today's world 100mp is overkill, how about in the future world? I don't know about other people, but when I take photos, I intended it to last a lifetime or even beyond that. Most people complain it takes too much space in hard drive, but then again, storage is cheap. I'm not printing my images, I intend to keep in in digital format for as long as I can.

0:33 You could start by focusing less on the video, which looks good and crispy btw to that horrendous audio. The echo is instantly noticeable

The thing I like about videos shot in 4k (even when watching in 1080p) is that the higher resolution and pixel density gives you a better dynamic range. So the colors look a lot more realistic. The colors in videos shot in 1080p on the other hand look pretty washed out in comparison, and the brighter areas look overexposed.

Also broadcast even today still ooutputs 720p 😅 They do push 1080p and 4K on some stuff but most stuff is still 720p or 1080p

I would argue it's more about youtube than 1080p itself. If you film in 1080p then export it in 4K it still looks very good. Take for example Netflix, watching HD content still looks perfectly good, and actually all films are rendered down to 2K (wide 1080p) from 4K anyway. I prefer 8K over 4K, don't get me wrong, but when filming people/yourself resolution isn't that important, but that extra detail gives much more headroom for cropping in or mist filters and other addons that might turn a 1080p footage into dreamy, too soft image. As a wildlife videographer every bit of resolution is important, whether it's video or photo as you can comfortably crop in when needed without losing resolution. Heck, I'm waiting for the slightly affordable 8K@60/120fps camera to upgrade next mostly for that, and for having 33.2MP stills that no one believe that they're video frames. I send people a7sIII 4K frames and they don't believe their eyes and we're talking about 8.29MP, even 1080p video frames from my camera (2.1MP only!) look 10x better than photographs made by most of smaller sensors like phones.

Volume producers have gone to the shoot in 1080 upload in 4K model for work flow and storage reasons

...not to mention the computer processing and storage requirements for working efficiently in 4K.

2:00 this part 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 I'll also add that due to most people viewing content at 720p or 1080p that there's also a feeling going on emotionally while viewing at the more common resolutions. 4K doesn't mean better, and 720p doesn't mean worse.

i upload gaming content on other account should i record it in 4k or stay on 1080p

I think the standards are just not the same. I'm sure whatever 1080p comes out of Beast's channel is not the same 1080p that comes out of my channel. KZfaq prefers his content over mine and gives him more bitrate. Bitrate, not resolution, is what matters at the end of the day. How do you get KZfaq to give you the most bitrate at 1080p. Do you get better 1080p quality when you have 4K available? I don't know tbh. For my videos I need every bitrate I can get because so much is changing in the scene all the time that it artifacts a lot. My sweet spot is 1440p right now but not sure how that'll change in the future. I'm still experimenting.

anyone remember Fox TV show with Seth McFarlane's the Orville. I think it was broadcast in 720P but it always looked better than any other TV show for OTA broadcast. better than all 1080i. the video was crisp and played at true 60FPS

I like to watch videos with the highest quality setting because it gives you more bitrate. I think it was called bitrate. But because of that fast moving things wont look as pixelated.

Audio > 4k 1080p with good lighting is good enough imo, especially for a talking head video. 4k makes a bigger difference in the outdoors, especially with trees and foliage, but still, you could probably do fine with 1080. Another downside to 4k, is having a powerful enough PC to edit them, and if you want to store all of your footage, you'll need a lot more storage. And considering most users might watch on a smartphone, not have a proper 4k device to notice all the details, or not even be able to stream 4k properly, I'll argue 4k is overkill.

I shoot in 56fpm 1080p because the 4K on my Canon RP is practically unusable. Maybe I'll try to shoot in 1080 and upload in 4k and see what happens.

4k only matters on smaller channels so youtube uses the better compression. On established channels youtube already uses the best compression.

Thank you, Mr. Sad. :(. As a new hobbyist videographer, I was just wondering if I must upload my content in 4K. I'm not doing this for any money, just for the enjoyment, so I'm not sure the extra time it takes to upload 4K is even worth it.

Funny you talk about a nice big aperture 1.4 lens. Which cannot resolve 4K to begin with. The best lenses are always the ones 1-2 stops dimmer than the most wide expensive one. They usually arre as sharp at F4 as the 1.4 at F8. I miss a real big part of the process: editing. Doing 24p1080 is such a breeze when editing. You can even do it on a Core2Duo. And backups are way smaller. Last benefit of 1080p is the environment, with 90% watching YT content on 720p or less, why have the datacenters process 4K?

The man in me LOVES the latest technology but I feel a bit better now with starting out with a camera that films in 1080 and not chase the 4k wave, trying to be "hip" 🙄. The woman inside me is having a hard time accepting getting older and maybe she'll appreciate not being so detailed in 4k right now 😂😂😂. BTW, I'm part of the 9.7% watching on a tablet and you look AMAZING 😎.

I still shoot with original pocket cinema cam. I shoot raw and upscale. That camera looks better than any sub 7,000 dollar camera any day.

To answer your question, I would rather have some noise reduction on the walls behind you 😜 Great content though, and as you said, that's what matters!

I watch KZfaq primarily for information and entertainment as long as the video quality is good enough to see what I need to see. I don't care about it being any better. Also I'm lucky if I can watch a video at 720 without it buffering like crazy so 90 percent of the time I have it set to 480. If you aren't shooting something like national geographic content I don't know why anyone would deal with the extra editing difficulty and storage space requirements that come with 4k. Most movies are done in 1080.

My first full frame camera was the Canon EOS R. It has the option of shooting in 4K but it was cropped. So when I had that camera I filmed in 1080p and upscaled it to 4K and it looked really good. But I’ve since moved on to higher end cameras, Sony to be more specific. But I think you have a good point, for people starting out and doesn’t want to empty their wallets, getting an older 1080p camera and uploading it in 4K is a good idea. It will get the 1080p footage to look better.

If you record in 1080p, how do you render to 4k?

If you look at MarkusPix videos, dude shoots and uploads in 1080p but his footage always looks crispy, like you wouldn't be able to tell if it were 720p, 1080p, or 4K. He's also right b/c 4K while great for editing purposes is ugly in terms of viewing. You can't even properly view 4K unless you have a giant screen.

The funny thing most of us don’t have hi speed data to watch in 4K in Asia or most non 1st world countries. So yeah at end of the day 1080p is the way.

Well.... I also record in 4k and export in 4k. (A7IV) And there is another thing we both like: sharp images... I'll probably won't try 1080 to 4k rendering, but agree that if I'd need something in a budget, I'd buy something older but good and make it! See ya.

1080p is enough for almost 80% of the channels around IMO. Is the channel a vlog-podcast, drone footage etc then 4K

My best performing video is 1080. 4K definitely looks better IMO and I love it. I started out using a GoPro then switched to a Sony Alpha so I could shoot with a better lens and in 4K. I've made quite a few video using my iPhone 14Pro and they look just as good as my $2k camera. The only difference is the boka from the lens and the ease of use pulling the video files off an SD card as opposed to pulling them off the iPhone

Sound, good storytelling, lighting and good photography, in that order, is more important than 4K (which actually isn't important at all)

I would much rather have high bitrate 1080p than 4k on youtube. 1080p is fine for most content, but after youtube compresssion looks absolutley horrible. Using all that bandwidth on a higher resolution _and_ bitrate, rather than allowing to focus only on bitrate really sucks.

Content and " especially" audio quality are also paramount....

I came straight here from a Mr Beast video 😂 The editing style they use has a lot of fast moving shots in it, which isn't great for 30fps and it also isn't great for the 1080p KZfaq compression. For me it very much detracts from the viewing experience, though I'm aware I'm in a small group of people that care this much about it. I very much appreciate your 4K crispness!

So it's okay 1080p to export in4k?

I watch on my phone, I can't tell until KZfaq lowers the quality to 480p. Most phones settings it seems don't default to 4k. And loading 4k on a phone can take to long. Sometimes streaming and not waiting to load is more important than 4k. Also the story matters more to me. Anything better than 480p! Oh new shaky footage please.

I upload 4k because my phone is a 4K res. When it comes to irl, 1080p is best. When it comes to games, 2,4,8k is best.

I shoot in 1080p and upload in 1080 p. The issue is the storage.

Does youtube promote 1080p more than 4k

Who exactly watches KZfaq in 4k? People on laptops? Generally no most laptops are 1080p or lower. People on phones? Absolutely not, most phones are 720p and pretty much all carriers downgrade video played on phones to well below 720p. People watching on TVs? Sure that very rare person watching YT on a TV may be watching in 4K, but seeing as at a comfortable viewing distance for watching a TV 1080p and 4k look identical it hardly matters if they watch in 4k because they are only seeing 1080p.... The fact is nearly all Hollywood studios still shoot in 1080p cuz it's easier to work in and the human eye cannot resolve detail higher than 1080p anyhow. In fact the 1080p standard itself was developed because scientific studies showed it was slightly higher than the highest resolution the human eye could resolve at a comfortable viewing distance from any size screen.

I for one will actively downgrade any 4k video to 1080p... Main reason is because I have cox internet and they have data caps... DATA CAPS!!! The higher the resolution, the faster I hit that cap and have to pay extra. so 1080p is what I'm going to keep all resolutions at. Gaming, videos, EVERYTHING! If the quality is good enough at 720p, that would be even better. I don't want to pay extra just to see the pores in someone's face, and as long as I stay at this resolution, I go nowhere near my data cap. higher resolutions easily chew through my bandwith and to me, I don't think it's worth it.

Do you get paid extra to upload in 4k

Seriously just think most content on planet Earth is viewed at 720p and mostly within the US. Online social media content is viewed at 480p, or 720p. YT has the option for 1080p which most YT channels provide but the majority of viewers just use 720p as they're just viewing content on their phones or tablets. 4K is not for viewing imo, it's for editing. Same for 8K and 12K. Both formats look terrible honestly. That's not the format's problems that's the size of pixels, screen size and how much our eyes can resolve at a given distance. Big studios will shoot 1080p then upscale to 2.5K 😅 or even 4K. They'll do different combinations, like shoot 4K then edit, then downscale. Just depends on what the story/production needs. Imo the perfect quality is 1080p with a high bit rate. 720p upscaled to 1080p is fine too as long as the bit rate is high enough. When channels use 4K they don't realize you end up getting a crap ton of artifacts on the viewer side. It's like I'm back in the 90s with those cheesy overly sharpened TV's 🤣

IF YOU do it Right.. It's Highest quality, with uncanny valley lighting and cuts. But subtle to confuse the brain and trap the viewer on a tiny screen! Like an HD photo analog Photo print flip book

my camera can shoot 4k, but i have older computer with old hard disk, so i'm 1080p and i'm happy.

If i shoot a video in 4k then upload it in 1080 it looks better than if i upload the same video in 4K. Why?

You know when I watch a movie made today everything looks crispy very color full, than I rewatch the bad,the good & the ugly all that dusty old image, old color and I say this is real, like go and watch the new Dune, the realism should be there but it's not, it's still in the old Dune even if it dosen't match the book perfect. And another thing with all that quality they still have blur behind, same with your video all that focus on your face but the backround is a blur, that's annoying to the eye, don't know if it's from the cam, from the editing, if you watch mr beast videos there's no blur behind him in old or new videos. And then it comes to color like in the old movies, go watch min 3:55 your $3000 camera it's to overcolored, the blur is there behind you. And it's not me picking the image it's the eye, and belive me blur, color can trigger the brain, the helth, as a gamer I can tell you from when I was young & super healthy there was one game because of the bad color, the blur will make me sick motion and that was quake 2

I think he know something we don't about youtube algorithm

5:20 I'd shoot using either an APS-C or MFT and shoot in 1080p. Talking head, I'd rather have more depth of field than less. I think KZfaqrs are lazy, and you can tell by their lazy backgrounds 😅 Most overly use shallow depth of field in an attempt to pawn it off as Professional, Cinematic, or High Quality. No it's lazy. There's a reason why most pro videographers use an Arri Alexa with a sensor just wider than APS-C and 80% of movie scenes are shot with mid to deep depth of field. Photography being mostly self taught individuals is the reason there are so many differences in opinion. I say shoot with the camera you like, the lens you like, lighting, etc. But make sure the WHAT is the most important. What you shoot is a trillion times more important than what you shoot on. Here's why. The most expensive photographs known to man were from the absolute worse cameras known to man 😅 It's very very doubtful unless nft makes a jump that any image regardless of skill or digital high end camera will be worth millions. You could be Sails Chong the most amazing Chinese fashion photographer shooting on a Hasselblad H6D will produce an image worth $1m at auction. If you want to sell high ticket images, buy a film camera or a old digital camera. Paul McCartney shot hos album cover using a Casio watch 😅 ok, a 0.3mp camera 😭

It's the amount of time it takes to upload it and the getting to 95% 3 hours later and it abandons it! YIKES!

I shoot in 1080 with a Canon G70 and upload in 4K

Most people watch youtube on their phones. At that size, there is no difference between 1080p and 4k. My phone's 1080p display has a pixel density of fcking 411 ppi. That's more than any PC monitor or TV that on an average have a pixel density of 200 ppi . So even a 1080p video will look way sharper on my phone than any 4K video on a desktop monitor or TV. So yes, for the vast majority of youtube viewers, 4k is pointless and unnecessary, because 411 ppi is way over the pixel density necessary to make a screen a "retina display" (where you can't make out individual pixels).

If all you're doing is "talking head" videos, a decent 720p bit rate is good enough, why would viewers waste bandwidth on talking head narration type content?

I do care about a interesting content, no matter if is 720! My phone always runs utube videos in 360.

I love shooting in 1080p 24 frames. That’s how you can get the most cinematic look with some post-production. I hate 4k and anything above. And 30 frames? No thank you. That’s for sports and amateurs😂

hopefully one day AI upscaling will get so good that we'll be able to watch anything in a higher resolution and it'll look seamless

I use 4k video on my shorts

Mr Beast has struck a viral formula to attract masses in droves, exploiting the most basic motivations of us human beings, therefore the highest subscribers and view counts. I find his videos to be too easy to enjoy like fast food so I never watch his videos. Wildlife - Fast action sports - Documentary Or Narrative filmmaking - Product photo/video - Serious portrait or similar professional work - High quality Ad shoots - Professional quality Photography or Videography of any genre On top of all of the above if you require superior quality social media content - Than only than you require serious camera gear or else phones or smaller cameras would do.

I upload in 8K, so things is worse for me.🤣

full frame 1080

I do as much as possible in 4k but I didn't invest in traditional 4k gear, such as DSLRs. Everything is shot on a Samsung S23 Ultra and Insta360. I decided to go 4K for the following reasons: Future proofing, better quality on desktops thanks to the additional 1440 stream that KZfaq kicks out on 4k videos and for those watching my content on 4k TVs. But I agree that good audio, lighting, editing and above all decent content, are all more important than 4K.

1080p 30fps most display support tv mobile laptop 💻 in 2024❤

4k on a 55.. that's my vote.. 👍

I wish he uploaded in 4k too What does he mean “over produced”, his whole thing is over the top production value

seriously my past lower-rez stuff actually looks good even SVHS but then i went all out highq 4K but now going w 1080 for standard since i noticed most of the time coudntell diff -- IT'S ALL ABOUT MORE LIGHT = INCREASES QUALITY! btw this nxt part is a joke: "uwannastep up shoot only jpeg pics use that as footage (use comics 4 storyboards -- even use TEXT for narration) -- this is all in original device app then export in the lowest rez so its so crappy no1 knows what the orig raws were then tell them u shot in 8k exported into VHS then redigitized it then upscalled it 2 16k then printed it on an old pinslot printer frm the 50s then put it on a canvas paint over it then burn it in a bonfire. good times"