Is Jalen Hurts a clear frontrunner for MVP? | First Take

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The First Take crew discusses if Jalen Hurts is a clear frontrunner for MVP.
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@Joso97
@Joso97 Жыл бұрын
I hate when the media wants to punish a player for having a good team around him. They’re basically saying Hurts has too much around him to be the MVP. It is a team sport if that’s the case there shouldn’t be a MVP award at all. But when Mahomes did win MVP he had Tyreek & Kelce. I’ll never understand it.
@rc7625
@rc7625 Жыл бұрын
That's a very good point.
@Dom-jb1wm
@Dom-jb1wm Жыл бұрын
Nope they only do it to certain players. No one said anything about rogders having Adams or Allen being absolute 🗑️ before he got Diggs, or Brady with Moss, Burrow having Chase. But when Hurts and Tua gets weapons its a problem 😂
@SauceyWavesBeats
@SauceyWavesBeats Жыл бұрын
Well maybe because Mahomes had one of the best seasons of all time
@Joso97
@Joso97 Жыл бұрын
@@Dom-jb1wm exactly
@malachiburnett9016
@malachiburnett9016 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes leads the league in Yards Tds and QBR
@18cronic
@18cronic Жыл бұрын
Crazy part is he’s only 24 and on a rookie contract. If the eagles capitalize on all their draft picks they could be a force for years to come.
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 Жыл бұрын
Bryant Eagles going to the superbowl this year
@theoriginaltroll388
@theoriginaltroll388 Жыл бұрын
Eagles are loaded for the next 3 years how they handle Hurts contract will be the Key
@luisdaniel7027
@luisdaniel7027 Жыл бұрын
@@theoriginaltroll388 💯
@germangerman9071
@germangerman9071 Жыл бұрын
@@theoriginaltroll388 hurts seems like the type of guy that wouldn't ask for the max amount of money
@jgard1168
@jgard1168 Жыл бұрын
@@germangerman9071 he’ll get a decent extension and then probably pull a Brady (get paid a decent amount)but making sure they can add players around him
@i2Craftyy
@i2Craftyy Жыл бұрын
So when Patty has Tyreek Hill and Kelce with Hardmen in the slot he wins MVP, but god forbid they give Jalen Hurts some help 💀
@Johenz
@Johenz Жыл бұрын
Mahomes had a season that’d go down as probably one of the best season of all time. 55 td is no joke
@Blakkcartel
@Blakkcartel Жыл бұрын
@@Johenz faxxxx
@gracialonignasiver6302
@gracialonignasiver6302 Жыл бұрын
@@Johenz Mahomes didn't throw 55 tds. Peyton Manning has. Mahomess threw for either 50 or 51 tds. 55 is the record by Manning.
@yvnggoat4739
@yvnggoat4739 Жыл бұрын
@@gracialonignasiver6302 still an impressive season. Top 5 qb seasons of all time. No matter what weapons he had he was gonna win it. You don’t just magically put up 5k yards and 50 tds 🤡
@i2Craftyy
@i2Craftyy Жыл бұрын
@mattliehr3124 It was just an example lol not comparing them as players obv Mahomes is better but any mvp will have a good team around them
@BlkFreakozoid
@BlkFreakozoid Жыл бұрын
The best part about Hurts having the season he's having is the fact that he was the lone question mark coming into the season by media and fans. Also the fact that he's throwing the ball as well as he is has also debunked those stupid a*s theories of he can only run. That's why I always say the term "running qb" is dumb because you have legs to get out of trouble. Some just can't do it as well as others. Never heard the term "catching wr" because it makes no sense. Always some dumb hurdle for certain qbs to go through to please the masses.
@ceez2140
@ceez2140 Жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@ceez2140
@ceez2140 Жыл бұрын
Running QB is a white mans term to label the black QB always has been
@eastsidepb8139
@eastsidepb8139 Жыл бұрын
Dam dude
@TheStranger513
@TheStranger513 Жыл бұрын
Well in fairness, you won't hear catching wr because that's literally their primary job. Where as running for a QB is not. But either way I don't care. Go Eagles 😂
@eastsidepb8139
@eastsidepb8139 Жыл бұрын
@A Tribe Called Judah Yes but you do hear throwing QB and that's their primary job which validates his point. You hear 'best after catch WR' and all of these things which it's not bad to differentiate what a player does best, however when you pin them in a box as just that it makes no sense. Calling someone a Throwing QB makes as much sense calling someone a running QB which makes as much sense as calling someone a catching WR.
@jthebox2105
@jthebox2105 Жыл бұрын
After this week I got Hurts as the favorite for MVP. 20 TD’s to just 3 INTS throwing 68% completion percentage and on pace for over 1,000 yards rushing. He is doing what Cam Newton did in 2015 and Lamar did in 2019 but as a more efficient passer. This is coming from a Cowboys fan.
@Gmoney-yo2ly
@Gmoney-yo2ly Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is the kind of year they could give hurts the mvp like Ap over Peyton
@briancrum2655
@briancrum2655 Жыл бұрын
Lamar had 42 TDs and threw 35 TDs(led the league) with a 150 pound rookie receiver as his top option and also ran from 1,200 yards. Lamar has a criminally underrated MVP season.
@kilospendingbob2346
@kilospendingbob2346 Жыл бұрын
@@briancrum2655 I don’t think it was underrated since he was the unanimous… Lamar that year was hard to watch when he went against your team
@kelseykjarsgaard5774
@kelseykjarsgaard5774 Жыл бұрын
@@briancrum2655 wow where that guy now
@briancrum2655
@briancrum2655 Жыл бұрын
@@kelseykjarsgaard5774 that's my point lol. Having 1 great regular season doesn't mean you're elite. Its about the playoffs. Hurts may very well lead the Eag;es to the superbowl...but it's also possible he folds in the postseason...my problem is that Hurts fanboys are acting like he's already as proven as Mahomes when he has never even won a playoff game.
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 Жыл бұрын
Jalen Hurts is the MVP and he’s making $1,643,230
@randyfelicia2977
@randyfelicia2977 Жыл бұрын
Not for much longer he about to get the bag 💰
@TTV_Lobbyy
@TTV_Lobbyy Жыл бұрын
He has 9 rushing touchdowns too ! Nobody says that. He has 29 total touchdowns
@D6sznOnIG
@D6sznOnIG Жыл бұрын
Josh allen has 30 total touchdowns 🤷🏽‍♂️
@black4life333
@black4life333 Жыл бұрын
@@D6sznOnIG and hurts leads all QB's with 9 rushing TD 🤷🤦
@xxtooshiestyxx8756
@xxtooshiestyxx8756 Жыл бұрын
@@D6sznOnIG wit a worse record 💀
@BapeLord
@BapeLord Жыл бұрын
@@D6sznOnIG and 20 turnovers 🤣
@ramonmabry
@ramonmabry Жыл бұрын
@@D6sznOnIG and like what 14 interceptions right
@always.entertaining.people1396
@always.entertaining.people1396 Жыл бұрын
Imagine what the stats would look like if the Starters werent sat in the 4th Qtr 3 times because Hurts is already dominating so much and the Eagles have dignity! The total stats of Mahomes and Hurts are not far off right now with 3 quarters not played against the teams he was simply annihilating..Hurts gets my MVP vote easily for the simple fact that he hasnt had a single bad game, been the best decision maker, and is the reason the best team in the league is where they are✅
@dantheman8152
@dantheman8152 Жыл бұрын
Jalen is phenomenal. Nothing else to say.
@briancrum2655
@briancrum2655 Жыл бұрын
He has to do it in the playoffs or it means nothing. Derek Carr was amazing a few years ago and was the MVP frontrunner 14 weeks into the season.
@gudeboindy6674
@gudeboindy6674 Жыл бұрын
@@briancrum2655 Please find another excuse to say the playoff is for nobody. Ok
@darkbrandongamer
@darkbrandongamer Жыл бұрын
Every single week dude. Jalen is an absolute monster.
@briancrum2655
@briancrum2655 Жыл бұрын
@@darkbrandongamer He has to ball in the postseason first. Slow your road bud. Everyone gets held to this standard.
@darkbrandongamer
@darkbrandongamer Жыл бұрын
@@briancrum2655 What's so hard to understand about MVP -frontrunner-?
@cris-99
@cris-99 Жыл бұрын
Allen, Hurts, and Jackson all have great stories and journeys. A lot of people doubted them but look at them now. All on top of the league carrying their franchises
@freddygaulman5493
@freddygaulman5493 Жыл бұрын
None of them have superbowl rings though
@geg6315
@geg6315 Жыл бұрын
@@freddygaulman5493 what’s your point
@cris-99
@cris-99 Жыл бұрын
@@freddygaulman5493 Bree’s, Eli manning, Peyton manning, and others didn’t win a super bowl late into their careers. You don’t win a super bowl within your first three years of the league unless your team is stacked
@freddygaulman5493
@freddygaulman5493 Жыл бұрын
@@geg6315 debating over which guy is best when their all still folding in the playoffs is a waste of time
@freddygaulman5493
@freddygaulman5493 Жыл бұрын
@@cris-99 is that why we keep expecting Jimmy g and Dak to win a Superbowl since they came into the league??
@saintpablo427
@saintpablo427 Жыл бұрын
Media loves cherry picking the talent argument. When Rodgers had a top O line, 2 good RB’s, The best WR in the league nobody used that to discredit him from winning MVP
@praycjlose4279
@praycjlose4279 Жыл бұрын
You eagles fans gotta stop using Aaron Roger's & Patrick mahomes as example because both of them have one of the greatest QB seasons of all time, Arod won mvp throwing 70% 48tds 3int, Patrick mahomes won mvp throwing 50Tds 5k yards. Y'all gotta stop comparing
@saintpablo427
@saintpablo427 Жыл бұрын
@@praycjlose4279 did they do it by themselves? Who were they passing the ball too?
@praycjlose4279
@praycjlose4279 Жыл бұрын
@@saintpablo427 it doesn't matter who they was throwing it too, they won mvp because they had historic QB seasons, not everyone throws for 50Tds or 70 comp%. If mvps was based off of team records than patty mahomes should've won it again when he was 14-2 in 2020 or Jared goff when he had the best record in 2018 with record of 13-3
@ja027
@ja027 Жыл бұрын
Rodgers is a FIRST BALLOT hall of famer. the other will not be a hall of famer. stop that shitty argument your comparing a good qb to a hof qb
@Yeomannn
@Yeomannn Жыл бұрын
Idiot eagles fans.
@EXTRAORDINARYz
@EXTRAORDINARYz Жыл бұрын
Hurts deserves MVP he's in just his second starting year and look how much he's improved
@spaceghost4628
@spaceghost4628 Жыл бұрын
Craziest part about this season for my eagles is that we still have the Saints pick in the 1st round this year 😊
@ralphdadon3026
@ralphdadon3026 Жыл бұрын
Y’all gone need it afte the bengals win the Super Bowl this year
@spaceghost4628
@spaceghost4628 Жыл бұрын
@@ralphdadon3026 LOL I don’t care who wins the super bowl everybody could use an extra 1st round pick dummy
@b2284
@b2284 Жыл бұрын
I need another young stud pass rusher, someone who can just wreck havock. That or another stout d-lineman to replace Cox next year when he prob retires
@Gmoney-yo2ly
@Gmoney-yo2ly Жыл бұрын
Hopefully they lose tonight but they most likely won’t
@BlackDeadpoolEarth2046
@BlackDeadpoolEarth2046 Жыл бұрын
Who da f carez f da eagles n da cowboys Eagles fans 76ers fans are trash Lowlife scumbags Sports fans whole life sucks so they cheer for sports teams
@17Adamovic
@17Adamovic Жыл бұрын
the stupidity of SAS..... When Eagles lost against Washington it was used to show them as frauds and a case against Hurts... Mahomes loses a 3rd game and it elevates him? This guy is clueless
@LowkeyQuanny
@LowkeyQuanny Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ItsClaxton
@ItsClaxton Жыл бұрын
@@LowkeyQuanny and they lost to the colts, commanders are atleast a wild card quality team , colts cheeks rn
@bethebullet6511
@bethebullet6511 Жыл бұрын
Jalen Hurts: 3,549AP Yards (2940 Passing, 609 Rushing), 29AP TD's (20 Passing, 9 Rushing), 3 Total Turnovers (3 INT's) Patrick Mahomes: 4,091AP Yards (3808 Passing, 283 Rushing), 32AP TD's (30 Passing, 2 Rushing), 9 Total Turnovers (8 INT's, 1 FMBL) They are absolutely comparable numbers. 6 less total turnovers easily makes up for 532 difference in yards, and only 3 TD's separate the two. Both are EXTREMELY important cogs to their teams, and I completely agree that this is the perfect situation that you can split the MVP between the two.
@eric.eternal
@eric.eternal Жыл бұрын
Clearly Mahomes mistakes have cost his team games and Hurts hasnt made nearly as many, hence his team leads the league in record
@Trizzyveli
@Trizzyveli Жыл бұрын
@@eric.eternal hellooo
@briancrum2655
@briancrum2655 Жыл бұрын
@@eric.eternal Yesterday the kicker costed the Chiefs the game. The fake field goal on 4th and 10 costed the Chiefs the game against the Colts. Mahomes has played a tougher schedule than Hurts too....But as of right now, Hurts is the front runner since the Eagles only got 1 loss and the Chiefs got 3.
@charlestruong1480
@charlestruong1480 Жыл бұрын
@@briancrum2655 the same Titans team that took the Chiefs to OT at home, got murked yesterday by the Eagles lead by Hurts. Let’s stop with the “tougher competition” stuff. They actually have a lot of common opponents considering they play in different conferences
@briancrum2655
@briancrum2655 Жыл бұрын
@@charlestruong1480 The Chiefs have played tougher comp. Period. And how are the Titans the same team from last year when they don't even have AJ Brown anymore? Lol. Delusional.
@FireballStylist
@FireballStylist Жыл бұрын
Jalen Hurt is AWESOME this year!!!!!! Give him props!!!!!!!!! MVP baby!!!!!😉
@TexanEagleFan
@TexanEagleFan Жыл бұрын
We only lost one game and haven’t had Godert Maddox or CJ Gardner Johnson leads the league in interceptions 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
@alexracy9165
@alexracy9165 Жыл бұрын
I would expect mahomes to get back in the lead but after this week Hurts overtook him in the MVP race
@SgtsPepper11
@SgtsPepper11 Жыл бұрын
As much as I hear the argument about "what's around him", that argument hasn't ever really applied. No one cared when Wentz took a bunch of trash offensive players to the playoffs following a 4 game streak to qualify. Every time TB wins the MVP he's got tons of talent around him. I've never heard so much about the MVP frontrunner's situation playing into his chances until this year, and I'm very confused. If you wanna say that the passing TD's and Mahomes' stats through the air outweigh Hurts' stats on the air AND the ground, we can at least debate about that because it's apples to apples Every player has their own situation, but we don't give pity points to talented guys in bad spots. The MVP has become a statistic-based award, and the most important statistics historically are wins, TD's, yds, and comp% (for a QB). So based on that, that's how we have this discussion.
@mansurx26
@mansurx26 Жыл бұрын
Jalen Hurts got 29-3 TD ratio, that’s over 9-1. C’mon now.
@Sosaluhhj
@Sosaluhhj Жыл бұрын
@@i2Craftyy 9 rushing tds
@mansurx26
@mansurx26 Жыл бұрын
@@Sosaluhhj and no lost fumbles
@djng9644
@djng9644 Жыл бұрын
@Gabe HP they just gave Mahomes shine so what argument are you trying to make?
@romeothompson9389
@romeothompson9389 Жыл бұрын
@@i2Craftyy yet the guy who is gonna win over hurts is also black how can you live life being this much of a clown ??
@jarrodwilliams5884
@jarrodwilliams5884 Жыл бұрын
@@i2Craftyy Lamar Jackson won MVP his second year...
@jdillabdaflyest
@jdillabdaflyest Жыл бұрын
Skip Bayless has been giving this dude credit since day 1 of him becoming the starting quarterback Michael Irving
@outrageousgentlemen1037
@outrageousgentlemen1037 Жыл бұрын
Nfl needs a most improved award. Jalen been putting in the work!
@YSBG_
@YSBG_ Жыл бұрын
Jalen Hurts is the BEST QB from his CLASS!
@demonking4883
@demonking4883 Жыл бұрын
You're insane. You're literally a joke.
@AllCityTron
@AllCityTron Жыл бұрын
camera man got a crush on RC or something??? camera was on him nonstop 🤣🤣 even when he wasn’t talking
@TheRealLeonardWashington
@TheRealLeonardWashington Жыл бұрын
Crazy how Mahommes takes an L and gets rewarded for it by the media. No way is he above Hurts in the MVP race
@Mr.Martin1996
@Mr.Martin1996 Жыл бұрын
To be fair they're like this with Josh Allen as well. Even when he loses, they still award him and find excuses for why he lost despite making mistakes.
@nixynox6359
@nixynox6359 Жыл бұрын
Hurts is probably the mvp but mahomes team is trash outside of kelce
@Mr.Martin1996
@Mr.Martin1996 Жыл бұрын
@@nixynox6359 there's been some impressions from this Chiefs team even before this game.
@TheRealLeonardWashington
@TheRealLeonardWashington Жыл бұрын
@@nixynox6359 and it was the complete opposite when he won his MVP. He had all the help in the world that year and nobody penalized him for it. The hypocrisy is real
@TonyAtmos
@TonyAtmos Жыл бұрын
It's because they've been pushing mega hard for him to become the face of the NFL after Brady said he was considering retirement.
@jasonthornton5718
@jasonthornton5718 Жыл бұрын
Why isn’t Justin Jefferson Mention in MVP race at all is crazy. It should be called QB MVP because that’s all it is.
@gracialonignasiver6302
@gracialonignasiver6302 Жыл бұрын
@Ted Teddy This^. I've been saying this for years. They should have an MVP based on position.
@Sun-kt3de
@Sun-kt3de Жыл бұрын
Marshall faulk , Ladainian Tomlinson, Adrian Peterson ?
@davidokinsky114
@davidokinsky114 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes might have the edge, but Hurts is closing the gap fast.
@jackwoods9604
@jackwoods9604 Жыл бұрын
His Receivers are WIDE OPEN 80% of The Receptions This Season (Especially This Game)...Jalen Hurts Will Turn Back into a Pumpkin in Playoffs
@MarliQQLuv
@MarliQQLuv Жыл бұрын
And if he don't, make sure you come back here and be real sweet and say you don't know football
@jackwoods9604
@jackwoods9604 Жыл бұрын
@@MarliQQLuv Real Sweet..lol...Sure Why Not...You Have My Word
@kjam360
@kjam360 Жыл бұрын
Jalen Hurts is the MVP, y'all better recognize!
@wisconsineaglesfan7925
@wisconsineaglesfan7925 Жыл бұрын
Stephen A says Hurts has Goedert... is Kelce chopped liver? Last time I checked Travis Kelce was considered the #1 TE in the NFL, and Goedert is out the last couple weeks with at least two more games to be missed. Eagles have Brown, Smith, and Watkins; the Chiefs aren't hurting at WR with Juju, MVS, and Toney, though I'll admit that Brown is the best in the bunch. QB Rating: Mahomes 104.9, Hurts 108.3 TD:INT ratio: Mahomes 3.75, Hurts 6.67 Completion %: Mahomes 65.7% , Hurts 68%. Avg YPP: Mahomes 8.1, Hurts 8.2 Hurts as of today is the front runner for MVP. Which is weird for me to say after what I saw in 2021 from Hurts, but I'm loving it. Go Birds!
@steven2189
@steven2189 Жыл бұрын
Regardless if he wins MVP it’s crazy to me that before this year he wasn’t even ranked in the top 32 QBs and was looked at as the weak link, now he’s in the MVP conversation
@stevenkaz28
@stevenkaz28 Жыл бұрын
If not, he is literally right there. He for sure could take it.
@Some_TOAST
@Some_TOAST Жыл бұрын
Everytime my 🦅🦅🦅 win RC wears that green tie ....I see you gang
@Juniorx509
@Juniorx509 Жыл бұрын
Yess he should be mvp 🏆
@buzybiskit455
@buzybiskit455 Жыл бұрын
the trend should continue. the new winners of mvps in nfl.
@ephraimlatson
@ephraimlatson Жыл бұрын
Jalen MVP
@kevinwashington3071
@kevinwashington3071 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@lamajbrown75
@lamajbrown75 Жыл бұрын
It’s laughable how SAS says Hurts has Godert who has been injured and out for a month but Mahomes has no one as if Travis Kelci isn’t an All Pro All World TE.
@brittanygarrison8030
@brittanygarrison8030 Жыл бұрын
I think of Corey Holcomb every time I see hairy footed Molly. And can't stop laughing. GO BIRDS.
@Jay-fg8yb
@Jay-fg8yb Жыл бұрын
Lol
@curylgreen1562
@curylgreen1562 Жыл бұрын
Sir he is good.dam
@spaceghost4628
@spaceghost4628 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny weapons didn’t matter when Mahomes had Tyreek and Kelce and Kareem hunt and won an MVP. Your “help” only matter if they want someone else to win.
@kcsniper1243
@kcsniper1243 Жыл бұрын
All i have to say is the Benglas better win the super bowl the next few years. Because the main reason they are good is because they have Burrow & Chase under rookie contracts. He will be in the same boat that all the qb's are when they get paid. alot of weapons have to leave.
@curylgreen1562
@curylgreen1562 Жыл бұрын
When you good they say you not .but he is thank you
@h0llyw00dhoward7
@h0llyw00dhoward7 Жыл бұрын
Jalen Hurts proved me right when I said once he has a full season under his belt. Doug Peterson was holding him back 2 seasons that got him booted out of Philly.
@daquandavis5498
@daquandavis5498 Жыл бұрын
Me n many others have been sayin for years the nfl should do it like the MLB with two MVPs one for each conference 🤷🏿‍♂️ it would give more opportunities to other positions besides QB to win more.
@dakotajones674
@dakotajones674 Жыл бұрын
This is why the chiefs would do WELL maybe not great or move them up any more then where they are but adding Odell would at least MOVE THE NAIL a little closer to having games like this in the bag. Maybe. Having juju is nice but he needed more rest I feel like. But then again he was a steeler and the bengals steeler rivalry is a thing. So. But MVS has had some drops. They need one more guy.
@curylgreen1562
@curylgreen1562 Жыл бұрын
Amen sir
@marshinz5696
@marshinz5696 Жыл бұрын
10 to 1 TD/TO ratio. MVP🤷🏿‍♂
@bop2278
@bop2278 Жыл бұрын
One and done
@knowyourenemy50
@knowyourenemy50 Жыл бұрын
The narrative that Mahomes is doing more with less is shockingly ill-informed. The truth is the complete opposite. I frequently argue he has the most stacked offense in NFL history. I strongly believe what Mahomes did in 2018-2020 with Tyreek was MORE difficult and impressive than what he is doing this year. He may not have as strong of a #1 WR now, but the unrivaled DEPTH that he has now makes the offense more deadly. He has MORE weapons and a stronger offensive line, better scheme now. He has the greatest head coach in NFL history, certainly the greatest playcaller. Juju is one of the most underrated WRs in the NFL, is top 10 in YAC, and Mahomes is #1 in the NFL in YAC. Kelce has a good argument for GOAT TE. The Chiefs O-line leads the league in pass block win rate and is top 5 in run block win rate. They have about 9 receivers and RBs who all run 4.4 or better to fit a ridiculous YAC scheme that makes Mahomes' job easy enough that a competent backup would look like a top 10 QB (Mecole/Pacheco/Skyy/CEH/Toney/McKenzie/Watson/MVS/Ronald Jones). Juju isn't even one of the one's I listed since he runs 4.54, and yet he's their most effective YAC receiver...more of a big possession receiver.
@290kells8
@290kells8 Жыл бұрын
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@adammiller8597
@adammiller8597 Жыл бұрын
Jalen is number 1 for mvp right now. Does the guy from the winning team or the losing team get the mvp in the superbowl. Right there answers your question on who is the number 1 guy for mvp right now. Patrick has 3 Ls right now
@ReggieSowell757
@ReggieSowell757 Жыл бұрын
🦅🔒
@NotExplicable
@NotExplicable Жыл бұрын
Jalen Hurts 68.1% Passing+Rushing 2940+609 yards 20+9 TDs. Mahomes 65.7% Passing+Rushing 3808+283 yards 30+2 TDs Mahomes MVP. 66.0% Passing+Rushing 5097/272 yards 50+2 TDs Mahomes first season with talent blows Jalen Hurts season out of the water. Regardless of circumstance Mahomes plays at a higher level. Mahomes, with or without talent, is MVP calibre. Paying Mahomes money will not diminish the team's chances of contending. The Chiefs have thus far played a more organized game-planning 2010s Patriots style which is what Mahomes is doing without losing the production. On a 16-game pace, he could easily match his MVP season with 5000 yards with the extra game. He could have 5200-5300 yards at the end.
@briancrum2655
@briancrum2655 Жыл бұрын
Hurts is balling and is definitely the MVP frontrunner right now, but he has to show he's elite in the playoffs before I become a true believer. Let's remember, Derek Carr was the MVP frontrunner 14 weeks into the season once upon a time. Here are my top questions when it comes to Hurts. They can only be answered in the playoffs....the difference between a truly great QB and a QB who is only great in flashes. - Can he come from behind to beat a great team in the playoffs? - Can he excel as a pocket passer against teams with stout run defenses who can force you into uncomfortable downs and distances? (This comes into play against teams such as the 49ers, Bucs, and Cowboys. It's likely that Hurts will face 2 out of 3 of these teams in a path to the Super Bowl.) Only time will tell. Excited to see what he does in the playoffs.
@petecallan
@petecallan Жыл бұрын
So losses help MVP now? Interesting.
@Vsmug
@Vsmug Жыл бұрын
Yes
@steveowatts
@steveowatts Жыл бұрын
Mahomes still lead the league in passing yards, TD’s and he got the most total TD’s end of discussion
@jacobscutzlas8712
@jacobscutzlas8712 Жыл бұрын
worse record and more tunovers...not that simple
@diehardeaglesfansince1994
@diehardeaglesfansince1994 Жыл бұрын
Stephen A has been hating my Eagles this season just last week had us #5 on his rankings
@johnricotta3422
@johnricotta3422 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, right now it's still Mahomes but by the end of the season I think Josh Allen and the Bills are going to go on a tear and he'll win it.
@D6sznOnIG
@D6sznOnIG Жыл бұрын
i want josh to win it so bad
@WoJackHorseman
@WoJackHorseman Жыл бұрын
Jalen Hurts is the only option at this point. Choosing anyone else would be insanity
@jaylenmiller4790
@jaylenmiller4790 Жыл бұрын
Need to try to make the MVP not a QB centered award
@joshuahodge8804
@joshuahodge8804 Жыл бұрын
Hurts is clearly the MVP. If Brady didn’t win last year (with better numbers) then Mahomes shouldn’t win it this year
@KillemAllCoop
@KillemAllCoop Жыл бұрын
If Hurts was a Cowboy Michael would feel differently
@aaronthecreative3041
@aaronthecreative3041 Жыл бұрын
With or Without T. Hill, Joe Burrow is Patrick Mahomes kryptonite. If Jalen Beats a fully loaded Cowboys team then he gotta get the MVP
@MichaelNagdi
@MichaelNagdi Жыл бұрын
As an Eagles fan, I find The Playmaker actually objective most times than not
@jadenbeauchamp8836
@jadenbeauchamp8836 Жыл бұрын
He’s the mvp it’s his until further notice argue with a wall
@xxgreenxmambaxx
@xxgreenxmambaxx Жыл бұрын
These dudes absolutely refuse to get of mahomes jock. Give Jalen the respect he deserves. And Steven A showed that he’s not really paying attention to Philly when he said Jalen has Dallas Godert
@voslandeck7641
@voslandeck7641 Жыл бұрын
The team's won/loss record has ALWAYS been part of the MVP decision, unlike Offensive Player of the Year. Nobody ever voted for a MVP because they might have a better record if they might have better players around them. Whether someone thinks that should be a criteria is fine, but the fact is that the actual MVP voters don't do that.
@evanmao2202
@evanmao2202 Жыл бұрын
Why are we acting like Mahomes still doesn't have Kelce and JuJu, like yeah it ain't Tyreek but he still has one of the best TEs in NFL history, one of the smartest offensive minded headcoaches in NFL history, and Juju ain't no scrub. It's not like Mahomes got the offensive core of the Giants or Patriots lmao, that would be a different story.
@matthewryan1185
@matthewryan1185 Жыл бұрын
I knew he was gonna be a better NFL quarterback than college quarterback. Why praise him when I’ve been doing it for months? Wake up people
@slappxn
@slappxn Жыл бұрын
Jalen started the season at like +4000
@alfonsosolivan124
@alfonsosolivan124 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day 2nd place ain’t getting mvp the best player on the best team would win the award. Aaron Won it last year why best team wit the best player the year. Double standards here
@robertwilliams4609
@robertwilliams4609 Жыл бұрын
You can make the argument for either qb but as a eagles fan i gotta still gotta go with mahomes because in the beginning of year our defense carried us more than jalen did there was quite a few games where we wasn't scoring in the second half but that is long behind us now I honestly would give the mvp to player that faced the most top 10 defenses
@AverageGymBrah
@AverageGymBrah Жыл бұрын
us real eagles fan been new this i called this june/july of the summer its just basic common sense lol lts go birdsss
@avonbarskdale5591
@avonbarskdale5591 Жыл бұрын
SAS high af
@mdsavage9768
@mdsavage9768 Жыл бұрын
So why did Pat Mahomes win the MVP with Tyreek Hill, Stephen A? 😂
@dopamineee3715
@dopamineee3715 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how geno smith gets no love in mvp race
@JPDuval-xy4yy
@JPDuval-xy4yy Жыл бұрын
The media & the league usually have a bias against the eagles. Nobody wearing an eagles uniform will win mvp or coach of the year
@EagleSZN678
@EagleSZN678 Жыл бұрын
Stephen A said Mahomes MVP odds went up (in his eyes) after a loss 😂😂😂😂
@GodofRaining
@GodofRaining Жыл бұрын
look at hurts total tds people always forgot his rushing tds
@mynameisjeff5142
@mynameisjeff5142 Жыл бұрын
Stephen A really said Dallas Goedert even though he was injured and at least out for another 2 weeks. Tf. 🤨
@bristruestory2142
@bristruestory2142 Жыл бұрын
Fly eagles fly 🦅
@santosh6637
@santosh6637 Жыл бұрын
Kirk Cousins would be Nate Petterman without Justin Jefferson
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 Жыл бұрын
If Jalen hurts leads the eagles to a 15-1 record and wins the MVP, realistically what’s preventing us from saying he’s the best QB from his class?
@Vsmug
@Vsmug Жыл бұрын
He didn’t got to the sb like borrow that’s the only thing really
@theobserversports7224
@theobserversports7224 Жыл бұрын
Coming from an eagles fan id still take burrow over hurts and 50/50 on herbert at this point. Herbert would have 5000 yards passing and 40+ td passes with this receiving core
@Trizzyveli
@Trizzyveli Жыл бұрын
@@theobserversports7224 and lose in the playoffs or not make it
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 Жыл бұрын
@@Vsmug if he does this year you can make a case
@Ellis1993
@Ellis1993 Жыл бұрын
Eagles vs Cincinnati in the SUPERBOWL
@LuisRodriguez-ji2ip
@LuisRodriguez-ji2ip Жыл бұрын
So ok, 🤔 Let me see if I understand… When Mahomes had all of the weapons he used to have, he was still MVP. Now, he doesn’t have them, and it is because of that he is still MVP. Not to mention in a shitty division (this year). I’ll stick to RC’s take on MVP for Jalen.
@derrickrush6550
@derrickrush6550 Жыл бұрын
No matter what a 🖤Black quarterback do is never good enough It's 😥Sad The World We Live In
@Sun-kt3de
@Sun-kt3de Жыл бұрын
Give us the Superbowl keep the MVP ...
@wolfszn
@wolfszn Жыл бұрын
if kirk cousin’s had mahomes numbers he wouldn’t be in mvp conversation lol its just his name & face of the leauge
@silverdasniper_
@silverdasniper_ Жыл бұрын
The fact that they aint trying give him MVP cause he aint got competition is BS cause that’s just like saying he got no shot at winning it at all then like WHAT ELSE CAN HE DO thats not his fault he can only play who’s in front of him thats BS seriously
@Gmoney-yo2ly
@Gmoney-yo2ly Жыл бұрын
With the list from the chiefs and pat didn’t have a good game hurts is now the front runner
@DeRussellMasina
@DeRussellMasina Жыл бұрын
If a QB losing games doesn't deligitamize SA view of Mahomes MVP standing then why does an MVP never have a losing record? My point is Wins and Loses matter. How do you determine a lose doesn't count? Mahomes carries more because he has a bigger salary. He is now experiencing what Aaron Rodgers did...so
@whowantsmoke4354
@whowantsmoke4354 Жыл бұрын
Jalen HURTS MVP 🏆🎉
@whoisniilante
@whoisniilante Жыл бұрын
SAS is riding D on this one. When Mahomes had all those weapons and won MVP, he won MVP. Now that someone has more better weapons, we're supposed to play the 'what if' game? That's BS. Hurts has almost 4000 totals yards, 29 TDs, and 3 picks! That's an MVP bruh. So much belitting of what that EAGLES have accomplished through 12 games. If this was Brady or Rodgers, they'd have crowned them league MVP week 2!
@djtime45
@djtime45 Жыл бұрын
Hurts hands down
@benjiyola421
@benjiyola421 Жыл бұрын
They giving him every excuse lol
@danielfragoso158
@danielfragoso158 Жыл бұрын
Good from HEAVEN Houston good Quarterback. 1 Philly Eagles great is a Texans.
@dhambo1100updates
@dhambo1100updates Жыл бұрын
Now if the roles were reversed and Mahomes was on the 11-1 better suited team they would still say he is the MVP over Hurts carrying a team to 9-3
@briancrum2655
@briancrum2655 Жыл бұрын
The Chiefs wouldn't be 9-3 with Hurts.
@dhambo1100updates
@dhambo1100updates Жыл бұрын
@@briancrum2655 this is a what if scenario lol don’t miss the point I was making
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