Means nothing he isn't even top 20...by that logic flair, Lawler and many more competed in more era than he did...he was never a number 1 guy in any company he was in stop markin out for mark

​@@oneyewitness3823 He never needed to be the number 1 guy, but he's always been an uppercarder since his debut as The Undertaker. And with a gimmick at that. Anyone else would have failed at keeping The Undertaker above midcard.

@@MansMan42069 all that's fine, but def keeps him out of the top 25

@@oneyewitness3823 Not when other wrestlers, the wrestlers you wanna put at number 1, put HIM at number 1. And I think their opinion matters more than the fanbase's.

​@@oneyewitness3823 lol he's very obviously top 5. And imo number 1. John Cena isn't even a good technical wrestler.

Three decades is cute. How about some of those wrestlers that wrestled for 4 or 5 decades

He wasn't even the main draw at any point in his run outside of the occasional injury to the top guys.

@@blurplebear8573 taker was always one of the main draws why do some people think taker never drew lmao he was literally the biggest draw right behind whoever was the most over babyface

@@Lindforce1 he was behind rock austin foley and maybe even Micheals and HHH. He was a key performer forever but never the main guy unless there was an injury.

@@blurplebear8573lmao behind rock and austin sure they were the top 2 babyfaces during the attitude era that lasted for like 4-5 years after that and before that he was always right at the top when it came to drawing power

Chris Jericho has been wrestling for over 30 years though

@@someoldguy5316 Jericho is one of the GOATs too but by 30 years I didn't mean 30 years of wrestling career, Jericho took a lot of time in the first 10 years to reach the highest level of audience (WCW/WWE level), even after he did he has gone to midcard a lot of times (but he was one of the greatest there too). What I meant was Undertaker survived 30 years of WWE, where the highest level of audience in a wrestling show where all weren't just prowrestling fans but the entire world, kids, teens, adults who are casual fans too are here and yet he managed to keep his character look serious even in 2010s when everyone knew he was an old man with a broken hip.

Rick Flair.

by that logic, R-Truth will be in contention in a few years.

@@mervstash3692 Bruv what? How was R-Truth relevant like Undertaker? Undertaker has been one of the main eventers for like most of his career, even when he became really old and had 2-3 matches per year those matches had the spotlight and had 3-4 promos too and it's all because of how he protected that character for that long. How is R-Truth anywhere near this? Are you just pissed off that you like some other wrestler and can't stand that I had a different opinion or are you just dumb?

But Shawn Michaels didn’t transcend the sport, he’s not a name that everybody will know outside of wrestling so in that sense he’s not in the Top 3. But in terms of in ring ability he’s probably No1. I’m not hating btw, Shawn Michaels is one of my all time favourites but the “Mount Rushmore” has to be people that were literally a household name all over the world.. Stone Cold, John Cena, The Rock, The Undertaker, Hulk Hogan or Ric Flair. Has to be out of them surely?

@@SuperMillwall Sure, you could say that. But that "transcend the sport" thing is very hard to measure. I'm from Portugal, which is obviously very far apart from the US, and WWE isn't main stream here. If I mention WWE wrestlers' names to my friends who don't watch WWE, most likely the ones they would recognize are: John Cena, The Rock, Rey Mysterio, Big Show, Undertaker and maybe Randy Orton. Leaving out house hold names like Austin, Flair, etc. And that's not because those wrestlers are better than the ones who were left out, it's because they are more mediatic since they wrestled in times in which the media was more invested in WWE

See it’s funny cause I can respect Shawn and his accomplishments but I never liked him or got why people did and especially see him as up there with guys like taker, Cena, stone cold the rock… he’s definitely HOF status just not goat status in my opinion

@@mikeehrcke7594 I get your opinion, but I really think Shawn deserves to be named within that group. Out of those four you mentioned, I could see any of them being at the top, except The Rock, who I think is not quite there when it comes to goat status. But I think Shawn is worthy of that title because his in-ring work was some of the best we've ever seen. That's why extremely talented wrestlers like Adam Cole call him "the greatest to ever lace up a pair of boots".

@@henriquequintas7262 ya thinking about it and after watching ziggler talk I never appreciated the selling as much as I should, plus ya he is big in every modern day wrestlers career too. Sometimes I forget it’s actually a team thing more than independent talent per say in the ring and developing the character wise

Undertaker is Number 1 wrestler of all time no doubt It's damn true ...!!

Actually more than a decade for Cena. He honestly carried the company from 2004 - 2016

Uhhh no undertaker

​@@aceventurapetdetective173604 is a stretch

@@pleaseshutup7053 only thing he carried was the rocks jock

'Not necessarily by winning, by giving opportunities' Thats exactly why he'll never be the goat for me. Undertaker was a better in ring talent, and spent a career putting over guys(and letting them win). He just wasn't as good on the mic. Most of the people who think Cena is goat didn't watch pre-2007. They didn't see anything other than 'Super Cena'

@@DuelyusSeazer Undertaker was an average ring talent, especially later in his career as he botched a lot of moves

@@DuelyusSeazer it was a phenomenal title run added to his accolades, he not only helped other wrestlers get the spotlight they deserved but he made them look like a million bucks and look at them now! Cesaro was killing it in aew as champ great matches, Seth is doing his best work and is overdue for a world title run again, ko was universal champion and has an amazing storyline with the bloodline and samy Zayn has been amazing with storytelling with the bloodline showing people he shouldn't have been this underrated for so long when he's this good in ring and on promos, Ziggler had a tag team run with Bobby which was decent and a world champion with arguably the best cash in ever, moxley was world champion in two different companies and held the fort for aew for a while himself! So Cena did well presenting them all as threats and the matches were fire 🔥

​​@@DuelyusSeazer Same with Orton. He has rightfully put over way more stars than John Cena has.

​@@DuelyusSeazer Only 2 people have beat Taker at WM.. Brock and Roman. That's the same as giving opportunities( Randy, Edge, Batista etc.) without them winning.

Only thing he has is longevity. Austin sold more than both of them

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Undertaker is like tennis We all love him but he was never majority ppl fav game

These guys mean well but they're susceptible to their bias due to their age just like all of us are lol. Sadly this video doesn't mean much

How many raw main events have you seen which had the undertaker and sucked ass......

They are talking about the impact on wrestling. There is nothing Randy does that hasn't been done by others before him. I would rather watch Orton than Cena, but I can probably come up with 20 names that have a bigger influence.

@@rriggs6547 everyone knows what an rko is

@@supertrashedits Everyone who regularly watches WWE knows what an RKO is. And even if we count lapsed fans we might get the number up to 4 million people. But tens of millions know Hogan and probably Flair and Austin. Hundreds of millions know the Rock, but that is sort of cheating as many don't know he wrestled. I would say close to 10 mil know Hall and Nash, Sting, and Undertaker. I would wager more people know Angle than Orton. Heck, I am sure more people know Kenny Omega than Orton, though most of them are in Japan and most in the US wouldn't count that. Also, that is a whole other discussion. I would wager Rey Mysterio is known by more people than Orton as well. And as big as the Rock is, I would never put him on my Wrestling Rushmore because he hasn't had nearly the affect on wrestling as several others have. I mean without Buddy Rogers we wouldn't have Ric Flair. And I think the biggest drawing feud, in terms of attendance, was Hogan vs Orndorff. But he got injured before TV WWF got big so he isn't the name many others are. But he was incredibly influential at the time.

Randy Orton is really the best in my opinion don’t know based on popularity or stats or anything but from what I’ve seen is he has the best looks perfect height physique he’s on point consistent one of if not most consistent wrestler to do it besides undertaker maybe,,when I mean consistent I’m going more towards time there he barely misses , he really does have the best moves stamina , best shape compared to rest, he was a real wrestler before ‘ wwe’ wrestling he isn’t one of them come and go ‘John cena’ ‘the rock’ types, he is crazy and I think he could really tear down anyone or give them a hard time from fighting to even being a shithead because he can be he has everything to back up to be fair he does have a past being bad compared to some others I think he’s alright and what’s in past is in past I would like to see your opinions back

Yess

@FreeSpeech orDIE!!! the level of saturation in media that we have now a days, people don't buy PPVs as much as they use to. It's a fact.

@FreeSpeech orDIE!!! people like moxley and many others could ve blow up so much durring attitude era

@FreeSpeech orDIE!!! you can thank sites like KZfaq for that. Most people would rather watch a highlight video than the actual 3 hour show.

@FreeSpeech orDIE!!! pretty sure WWE's YT channel is one of the most subscribed channels. So that's something about the current viewership levels.

Doesn’t matter. Cena was pushed down people’s throats for over 15 years.

I'm taking Hogan and only by a hair. He made a wrestling a mainstream spectacle. Hogan also was selling out arenas and merch in an era before the internet. Hogan also was able to become the biggest face and heel in two different companies at some point.

​@@angrymobsters1599 in 2 of the biggest eras as well. Nobody else can say that

Hogan OWNS Austin all day everyday and twice on Sunday's

Andre took it to the next level and put Hogan over.

Egomaniac who refused to put people over clean

Hogan #1. Cenas up there though

Are you 18 years old or something? Cena ushered in the worst timeline. Hogan flair rock taker hogan micheals hart savage hall Nash Eddie angle. I could go on forever lol

@@PollosHermanos1 we’d rather be 18 than 48. Cena has had a better overall career than everyone you just named.

@@mesogreezy so you are 18? I’m 32 and you kids are absolutely delusional and grew up with the worst wrestling possible, I don’t even know how you liked it even as kids lol. Cena is legitimately bad at acting and wrestling. He makes everything look so fake and I stopped following when he became the focus of the show.

“WHAT?!”

The difference between taker and Cena is that Cena is bigger than the wwe and outgrew it

same

@@demetcansuhey

His feud with Edge was better. That's what got me into wrestling.

Now this but Taker for every 90s child

16 times wwe champion

He isn't the goat and stone cold walked the fuck out so he didn't have longevity over steve

Steve is the main reason wwf won the Monday night wars watch shit on it so he's way more of a goat that. Cena

By your logic the #1 goat would be undertaker

​@@batsoup3504 I kinda agree to that. 30+ years, having an indominable legacy, a WM record that is invincible and having the ability to fill the attendance with people, just to see your entrance. I guess if not no.1 then he gotta be in everyone's Top 3-5.

​@@mosthatedandroidtunernolim9800 Cena forsure was in longer then steve

You are talking about wrestlers court, right? He wasn't always the judge for that. Sometimes Triple H would fill in.

Nar was taker was always an under card never much of a main event wrestler. When he was main event it was always to a bigger name. Austin will always be #1, followed by Flair and Hogan.

Taker is great, but he was never the top guy ever

undertaker ain't even top 20

facts. Randy is in the conversation 100%

Also the rko is S- tier

Neither Randy Orton nor John Cena are really in any goat conversation… Stop being silly

@@josephschmizzo1595 and here comes the Hogan/Flair/HBK/Austin guy

@@handleunavailable all those guys are better than randy . Cena is in the conversation but randy? Most overrated and boring wrestler of all time

Undertaker is not a mount rushmore material. He is the cornerstone of wwe. He was in all eras. He is a legend. Mount Rushmore status can be given to people who bring in hell lot of money and fame to the business. Austin is the top guy. And still he is in the top 5 merchandise sale. Austin is the true GOAT.

Bret Hart was fucking huge at the time. I miss the old WWF.

I would watch Bret over Cena any day, but I hate to admit he was never near as big as Cena.

and a lot of boring matches

Ratings were at the lowest when I was watching when he was the face of the company, he can't be the greatest.

@@goldwerewolf8651 Ratings of cable TV itself have been in constant decline for years on years. WWE's has been declining since 2002 regularly regardless of who was the face of the company. So that's not saying much.

​@@goldwerewolf8651 Yeah cause people reduced the time they spend on TV due to the increased availability of the internet. Cena was the face of the WWE when it started to venture into foreign markets and reached it's current financial giant status.

@@thegreenpianist7683 it was declining before it was on the internet drastically

Well that’s a dumb opinion. Facts are facts, and saying “they didn’t do much as one thinks” is idiotic and emotional to say. That’s not even subjective at all. Stone Cold and Rock was literally the Michael Jordan of wrestling when you talk about where they took the business overall (mainstream). Hulk Hogan was like the Magic and Bird

I agree, but the pop and momentum that Stone Cold brought every night was unique and when I think of the greatest wrestlers of all time, I think of who people regard as iconic, not just longevity. Hogan is iconic but has been supplanted by better wrestlers and icons. HBK is a legend too but the wrestlers above him are better icons. My mount Rushmore would be 1. Undertaker (the goat) 2. Stone Cold 3. Cena 4. Ric Flair

That what makes The Rock and Stone Cold so great they impacted the industry with 5-6yrs in their prime. Cena been in the game for over 20yrs and still doesn't have the quality matches Rock & Austin has had.

​@@DaInfantOnesaying they are is emotional...

Rock is Mount Rushmore he did in 7 years what everyone hopes to accomplish in wrestling. He’s the GOAT heel and face alike.

And that's why he's the 🐐

It wasn't a gimmick. He actually is child friendly. Most make a wish granter for kids. But I agree. If he had more bad assness(if that's a word), it would of been better

he had that until 2009. nobody’s gonna tell me 2007 cena doesn’t have that aura. go look at his match against Umaga at the royal rumble. or against Shawn Michaels at wrestlemania 23.

Watch dr.Thuganomics🫡

Rapper Cena had that attitude Era aura

Young guys know Hogan for his racism, and Flair for his divorces. Can't blame them

Ah yea hogan definitely helped raise so many superstars in his prime like…..uhhhh…..hmmm….. there was……no him.

@KillkamYT you could've hacked your way into a Vietnam jungle and asked about Hulk Hogan and they'd recognize the name.

Hulk Hogan was just basically Mr. America😂😂

Hogan is lame compared to the wrestlers of the 2000s n 10s

Not the slightest bit of a flair fan but I could definitely see that point being made. I’d say him, taker, and hogan make a really good top 3

Absolutely but dumb fans think the game went up the ladder coz of McMahons.

I know they're clueless.

He is nowhere near the best not even close. Cena, stone cold, and undertaker will always be better than flair.

@@Lefuhq3 I'm not sure how old you are but if you haven't looked into Ric Flair's resume and matches that he's, all way before any of the guys were on the map please do. I wasn't old enough to see him either but I have enough sense to look into the history of wrestling and not just one specific era. Goat means greatest of ALL time.

@Cesar Vargas cena has a better resume and wasn't the only star. Flair was like the man in WCW no one touched him. Cena had comp and still thrived.

​@@Lefuhq3 No other stars in Flair's time? Flair wrestled for the better part of FIVE DECADES. He's worked with damn near everyone. His matches with Ricky Steamboat are considered classics among almost ALL wrestlers. Even Stone Cold calls him the GOAT, himself. Learn your history.

Yeah but actually wrestling stone cold moves was ehh you got the rock,undertaker ,triple h Shawn Michaels

@@jerrodgarland2604 in actual wrestling Kurt angle was the best and if you think I'm lying......... he's a freaking gold medalist 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

That's why you have HOF . 🤦‍♂️

Ya what about Undertaker

​@@Mr_Leo_DS Taker drew ratings for Smackdown

Where is Ric Flair?

@@angrymobsters1599 Flair was older in his career when he got to WWE, so he wasn't as big a draw like those others were in their prime WWE days.

Rock and Austin doesnt crack ur top 20 😂 what!???

Top 3 greatest babyface ever. Top 3 greatest heel ever. Hogan is the goat period. Hollywood is my favorite heel ever. Pure genius crossing over

I fucking hate that guy. Bro may have brought wrestling main stream, but he also nearly destroyed it

How so? The mans character was corny ASF. There was no competition at that time. Compared to the Rock having to compete with WCW and ECW and carry WWF to completely destroy the competition. John Cenas Gimmick was an old white guy pretending to be a gangster from the hood in the 90s LMAO.

@@Hurley164 From 2005 to 2015 Cena was the top guy as per WWE says. They actually select the top guy according to the impact and the merchandise sale and his character worked for him from getting fired to The Guy. WWE pushed so many people throughout that decade to check every box but he remains number 1. He desroyed everyone during his promos, even The Rock when he mentioned he doesn't have to have his promo notes on his wrists In-ring. He fued with everyone except stone cold who was in the era of The Rock and even more like Batista, Orton, Daniel Bryan, Reigns and more recent ones. He never changed the storyline or match in his favor, like previous GOATS. He let the talents come forward. He earned respect from almost each and every single wrestler. What else you can't see??

Other than all this. I have been watching WWE since 1996. I also loved the attitude era. And as I mentioned, it's a personal opinion for everyone. For me Cena might not be the #1 but he is definitely a GOAT.

@Adeel Pervaiz Again, WWE had no more competition and killed off ECW and WCW. The Rock had no more competition and left to Hollywood in 2004 and became a megastar. Again and you must not be reading, John Cenas character is corny. They had a old white guy from the suburbs act like he's black from the hood all around corny character. He doesn't even make it in the top 10 of WWE's greats

@@Hurley164 Again that's your personal opinion. And it's obvious your favorite one is the great one. There are lots of people like me who agree on Cena being GOAT like The Rock and Undertaker.

Exactly

All of what you said could be said about Stone Cold and Hulk Hogan.

​@Cap Lives Granted, but Cena did it for 20 years and was still extremely popular and able to go 30 minutes. Hulk did it well for 10 years. Left and came back injured and burnt out. Stone cold did it for 8 (at best). I don't think Cena is the greatest wrestler ever, taking in all companies, but I do think that he is the greatest WWE wrestler of all time. My GOAT is Nature Boy, but I respect Cena and all he's done

Wowzers….ur so wrong and loud 😂

@@CapLives or Taker, or HBK, or Flair lol. This kid knows nothing about wrestling.

​@@War-Forgedand Hulk trumps all of them... the only exception is Austin

orton is wild card

My top 5 has randy and triple h in the first three spots are given. But I'll put triple h above the Rock. So I got Steve Austin, Cena, triple h, the rock and Randy Orton. Shawn Michaels doesn't make my list

Idk man Stone Cold may have made more $$ than the Hulkster. It would be close for sure .. but I don’t think you quite understand how big the rattlesnake was or the rock was. WcW was whooping WWF on ratings during the war with Hogan being on WcW as (Hollywood Hogan with NWO one of the biggest factions in history) Then they debuted Austin and The Rock in like 95 or 96 .. and WWF started whooping WCW in the ratings.

Austin made more money for wrestling in 1999 than Hogan did in his entire Hulkamania run.

@@user-em4wh5ji3w Some people just don’t know about that Era .. tuning in each week to see what crazy thing Stone Cold was gonna do to the boss Vinny Mac to get himself arrested that week.

What you meant was that hogan made the most money for himself not the business lol

Thank you

He was pushed to the moon unlike the other guys that you have on your list

Cena didnt fail as a babyface. Theres more to business that just hardcore fans booing you. I would put him number 7 all time

To say that John Cena wasn't popular is insane. Just because smarks didn't like him, that doesn't outweigh the tons of fans he's always had. Cena's no doubt a top 5 face in wrestling. He headlined the highest grossing wrestling ppv(wrestlemania 28)and the most watched summerslam in 2021, if that's not a testament to his star power, I don't know what is.

@@kingvega3004 its not that smarks didnt like him…nobody liked him except literal children w no gauge of the artform of pro wrestling. He failed as a face, he was booed by ppl who understood the artform, that literally means nobody liked him…

Taker, HBK, Austin, Hogan

@K D 😂

@K D ur bizarrely delusional… Btw ive been watching wrestling for 30 yrs. Have a good one 👍

As a African American hogan should not be up there

@K D bc hogan used the n word in 2014

That says nothing about the quality of performer he is/was. Fans openly despised his act and booed him AS A FACE. He simply wasnt accepted as the face of the company by actual wrestling fans…its as simple as that.

@@josephschmizzo1595 people have their reasons to hate him, but you can’t deny the influence he’s had and the Star power he’s gotten. He’s entertaining, it’s as simple as that. He’s definitely not the greatest wrestling wise (imo Randy Orton is better as a wrestler), but nonetheless he’s still great

@@macewindu6853 i mean…the word “great” is losing its virtue via the perception that analytic prowess yields “greatness” and i just dont think it does. Entertainment has bottlenecked into a scenario where “greatness” can be manufactured via book cooking, payola, fake (paid) reviews and bot farming (aka fake data) and i feel that Cena’s “greatness” falls into this a bit being as he was forced onto the general public because of personal intangibles that has nothing to do w the actual product. (ie. Hes a work horse that isnt a drug addict that could be trusted, im not saying this is a bad thing at all, i just dont think it means hes a better wrestler than a drug addict who may be somewhat untrustworthy, especially if we arent discussing the PG Era product. W that being said i do understand Vince’s motivation to push Cena in that particular era, i just feel that if things were more organic, he wouldnt be nearly as big as he is and i could say the same thing for Roman Reigns tbh.) Calling him “great” is fine but i’d be careful w the word “great.”

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The most emotional moment shawn ever had was retiring the nature boy. Other wise he is a one trick pony. His retirement was a breath of fresh air in my opinion he was a cancer in the locker room

Bret is the GOAT of technical wrestling for sure. I wouldn't say he is just the PURE GOAT tho

@@canyonarizona8910 what about, "The best there was, best there is, and best there ever will be" Bret is way too underrated for his promo work

@@joniii_ oh don't get me wrong. I love Bret. He's extremely underrated all around and played a huge role for the history of professional wrestling. But he's no on the status of Hogan or Flair. Bret is GREAT, but you know, you get the point, you seem smarter than most, maybe

@@canyonarizona8910 Personally I don't really like Hogan or Flair. I am aware how huge they were for pro wrestling at the time, yet over time what's come out about either guy or even personality wise I don't like neither guy. I understand that people rate them, yet I don't. For me the guy who has stood the test of time, the one who put in the work and who was always incredible was Bret.

@@pleaseshutup7053 Well that's not really his fault. Yes it was unfortunate, especially the screwjob that has really now been talked to death about. But overall I don't think it has hurt his legacy

Don't forget about Frank Gotch and George Hakenschmidt

@@jordannewsom3606 sure, but back in the early 1900s wrestling was a bit more legit and it had slightly different rules.

@@anxofernandez3344 True, but that also was the precursor to Circus wrestling. Were it was "fake"

@@jordannewsom3606 it's always been predetermined to some extent, but the "Gold Dust Trio" invented the "Slam Bang Wrestling", which is pretty much the 1920s equivalent to "Sports Entertainment". For that reason I wouldn't consider Gotch and Hackenschmidt as "pro wrestlers" in the way we understand the sport now.

@@anxofernandez3344 Its the pre cursor to that

He was great entertainer but overall does he comes on top 4 ? Nah not even close ... Brock is far ahead of him

Hogan is great. You're 1000 percent right. But when I go back and watch him. He's not on the level as the rest of these guys as a wrestler and on the mic. He's good. But the other guys are great or best ever in those categories

I’d put hogan along side like Triple H just for longevity but they weren’t in enough box office movies to carry the torch like the rock or Cena

Hogan is lightyears better than Cena

@@josephschmizzo1595 oh really? Because no he frackin wasn't. He was good in many ways. Cena had the best promo work ever. He beat out so many greats on the mic including the rock, triple h, cm punk, just to name a few

@@BeanMGG no he didnt, ur simply lying. The best ppl on the mic ever was Rock and Austin.

Stone Cold, The Rock, Ric Flair, Cena, Hogan. All very close and arguments for each of them

@@TwiceTheCrafting all good options (except Hogan, don't rate him), but where's Bret Hart

man you gotta be young.

​@@joniii_ even if you ask people in the business that hate Hogan he will be no lower than 3 behind Austin and Flair for what he did for the sport.

Without Rocky there is no Rock, make Rocky number 1. That's how silly your logic is.

No...

Get off the weed 🙄

True but with that said without Hogan there would not be The Rock. But Hogan is nowhere near the list. Rock loses out to John because his career was just too short compared to John Cena. He is in the top three but John just was the guy for more than a decade.

Rock is my number 1, but even i know this is a dumb take.

Of course lol

Yes the Viper is the GOAT.

Lol this dope said Orton 😂

Bro why you put hogan in there??? 🤣 hogan let’s be real, wasn’t a good wrestler. And he had 2 big moves that was about it. He was overpushed when he didn’t deserve to be. And he’s a complete asshole that didn’t put talent over when he should have. Hogan is the BIGGEST overrated WWE product of ALL time.

That shows how cena was more dedicated to wwe than rock if anything lol. Cena did it for longer