Is LatinVFR A321 NEO for Microsoft Flight Simulator Worth it?

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Hochmania

Hochmania

Күн бұрын

We have a new A321 for Microsoft Flight Simulator, but is it worth your money?
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@ArchNDA
@ArchNDA 2 жыл бұрын
The XBox market opens the door for things like this plane to come into the market now days and be useable to the casual user. I don't think some people consider that
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Equally problematic is newbies find planes like this and get turned off from how poor it is. So it could slice both ways.
@ArchNDA
@ArchNDA 2 жыл бұрын
@@hochmaniac There is that, or the ones that think this is going to be the plane that gets them into the various ATC networks and then find themselves in more trouble.
@aidenroman6997
@aidenroman6997 Жыл бұрын
Here in Feb, 2023, now that Horizion Simulations made a FBW compatibility mod with some improvements (like changing numbers/names in the EFB and MCDU) I've found that all of LVFR's aircraft to be super enjoyable
@augustbehle3589
@augustbehle3589 Жыл бұрын
I agree and they included the I pad!
@flywithlado
@flywithlado 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Hoch! Thank you!
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Goldblasterblaze
@Goldblasterblaze Жыл бұрын
The LVFR A21N is a good plane if you don't count the semi-working VNAV and it using default systems. I've gotten pretty good on descending in my flights without VNAV and I like to say I mastered the default flight models😂. Those things are not a requirement for me (though it would be nice to have them). Wayyy better than what Captain Sim gave us I think. I have not encountered a single bug with the aircraft on the ground or in the air. I do realize there are other and much better options out there, but if it's flyable and it looks and sounds good, it's a yes for me.
@JohnDoe-du3xk
@JohnDoe-du3xk 2 жыл бұрын
It has a lot of potential really.!
@ianoreilly8468
@ianoreilly8468 2 жыл бұрын
Is this Matt from Royal Caribbean Blog?? The voice gave it away!! I had no idea you were a simmer!
@StallionFX1
@StallionFX1 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, there aren't many options (talking from a Xbox user perspective). Many of us can't afford high-end computers, so we are stuck with limited options, hence marketplace. Having to buy liveries rather than being able to download them, not having options like Fenix and PMDG. It's frustrating, but you make do with what's avaible. That said, LFVR A321XLR is honestly not that bad. It's enjoyable to fly, but annoying when you can't even load it to high detailed airports without crashing as soon as it loads. Overall though, I'm not mad I bought it. I'm happy it's not a Captain Sim or BREDOK3D product.
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Fair point regarding Xbox users. Thanks for watching!
@brandonbustamante1248
@brandonbustamante1248 Жыл бұрын
Hehee, PMDG 737s just came out!
@cjyt2023
@cjyt2023 Жыл бұрын
I like the interiors, but overall I want a sim plane that works not just looks nice
@stefan7869
@stefan7869 Жыл бұрын
I have the LVFR a319 for a while now and i love it. I play on pc but i dont like to ply with simbrief like on the fenix or flybywire. I like it easy. And im thinking of buying the a321neo to
@victorrios9423
@victorrios9423 2 жыл бұрын
I’m an Xbox player i purchased this plane today and it doesn’t let me play with it only if im offline
@KristianStage
@KristianStage 2 ай бұрын
Yes it is ✈️
@alienter7517
@alienter7517 Жыл бұрын
I mean even now they brought it the A319 for 35$ and it’s the same as this aircraft. The problem is the PMDG 737-600 is that price and it’s built from scratch.
@pa659
@pa659 Жыл бұрын
The a319 is $25 and it's not a bad option for an xbox user. The engine sounds are good.
@alienter7517
@alienter7517 Жыл бұрын
@@pa659 yeah, for Xbox users it is. Btw the price used to be 35$
@chiefsimpilot
@chiefsimpilot 2 жыл бұрын
I thought about getting this to stream it but after looking at other vids I’ll pass. Nice vid
@luisserpa7936
@luisserpa7936 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Broh, tks a lot for the advise! I really want an A21N for my simulator, but I don’t really want trash! I will not accept nothing under the level of FBWA20n or Fenix! This video make me won ~25 bucks 😅
@qbit5339
@qbit5339 2 жыл бұрын
hey there is a free a321 alternative on it's way with modified a32nx systems and improved cockpit and external model ;)
@guspappas1162
@guspappas1162 Жыл бұрын
I miss seeing Hoch in the 190. Someone put me up to this
@mta1864
@mta1864 Жыл бұрын
A cautionary tale? For who? I watched this and other videos before choosing to buy the plane (on PC). I enjoy the A321 a lot! I like the liveries, the animated cabin, the sounds. The plane looks nice. The flight model is noticeably different even though it's based on the default A320. The plane is heavier and longer which makes me, for example, land at a different speed and be more mindful of tail strikes vs the A320. So for my purposes, it's a good time and a good buy. I believe that you're trying to provide fair and useful reviews. Your click bait-y "crap" thumbnail notwithstanding, your actual review is a lot more balanced and you do show what's good about the plane and what's awful. So far so good. What I don't like about your review is the not-so-subtle assertion that, because this plane is aimed at the casual market, it's lower quality and shouldn't be bought. Moreover, the unsuspecting customer needs to be warned of this danger. The A321 is "inferior" to the FlyByWire and Fenix so it why does this exist, right? It's regression back to two years ago, right? But who's in danger? The casual user who this will most appeal to? No. It's the hardcore enthusiast. The one who also wants an A321 but will be disappointed because this is a default-level aircraft. Moreover, if this casual A321 sells well, it means more default-level planes will come out which the hardcore crowd won't want to buy. Less "high-fidelity, reliable, good investment" planes, right? Gotta have a high price or it's not "good" right? First off, PMDG and Fenix and FlyByWire and Working Title aren't going anywhere. The hardcore market will have their developers. Shouldn't there also be planes for those who don't want to pay such a high price? For those who aren't looking for that level of complexity? There's this maddening notion in the sim world that "study-level" and "higher complexity" means "good" and "casual," "default," "lower complexity" means "bad." That's not necessarily true, is it? While the higher fidelity planes are generally made with more care, they're also unapproachable to beginners or even intermediates. The PMDG 737 might be magnificent but it's also got a crushing difficulty curve. Its complexity is the whole point of it's existence. Will a beginner enjoy trying to turn that thing on from cold and dark? At least a beginner will likely get the LatinVFR off the ground before they get discouraged. There's good reasons to have lower-complexity planes in the sim and they shouldn't be looked down on or denied to people who want them. If you believe the LatinVFR A321neo is ultimately "crap" based on your experience and expectations, that's your conclusion. There's no argument here with that. It's your honest opinion. That's what a review should be about. But portraying this plane's release like it's "a cautionary tale?" Come on! This plane is clearly not for you and you knew it before you bought it. The quality of the plane is irrelevant in this review because, really, you're not even speaking to the actual intended user. This is a review from a hardcore point of view for a hardcore audience to lament the disappointment of this plane not being the high-fidelity version you wanted.. Meanwhile, I'm just trying to get some info and I'm getting grief for potentially wanting to buy a sim plane. That's what irritated me enough to write this overlong post. The LatinVFR A321neo isn't "crap." If a PMDG 737 is a 4.5 out of 5, the A321neo is a 3 out of 5. It's "not that great" as the review says, but it's at least competent, with many good qualities (which are also highlighted in this review) and plenty of fun to be had. It's supported by a developer who's updating it, fixing problems in response to user comments. It's not for everyone but, for a certain audience, it's the right choice. And that audience includes me, a PC user who doesn't always want to spend 10 minutes waiting for the IRS to align while I program the FMC in my 737-600. Who once in a while wants to press CTRL-E and just get on with it already. Who gets a kick out of seeing a cabin that has passengers after I've committed the flight to autopilot. Who pilots my smart looking pretend airplane and soars over gorgeous pretend scenery and has real fun. That to me was worth $25. It's up to you to decide if it's worth it for you. Oh, and I can hear my virtual passengers cause I used the money that could have gone to another "study-level" plane to buy FSRealistic :) Thanks and God bless! Mike Arguelles
@johnswitalski9140
@johnswitalski9140 Жыл бұрын
100000% so true. I honestly thought I was the only one getting a bit sick and tired of his clickbait and shit reviews. Yes personal preference is key and the plane is definitely not for him, but there is no reason to shit on the people that have produced it and also the enthusiasts. Certain things such as his digs at Xbox I don't fully like but as I said everyone is entitled to an opinion. PC yes much better to get more into simming, BUT doesn't mean to say Xbox is JUST for people that want to faffle about. I know tons of enthusiasts that are on Xbox and do enjoy their virtual fights. Two downside I do agree about PC being better are obviously is Vatsim network and abit better realism but a lot of that is due to spunking out decent amounts of money for upgrading PC graphics card etc. Sorry main part of this message was praising your message. Very well said ;)
@casew3776
@casew3776 Жыл бұрын
Great assessment my friend! Because of your comment, I will be buying this. Exactly what I’m looking for
@mta1864
@mta1864 Жыл бұрын
@@johnswitalski9140 Thank you sir! Yes, he should review the plane, airport, add-on etc. but in the service of all who might want to buy it, not just some elitist niche market. Otherwise it's just a rant. Yes, true flight sim enthusiasm is not limited by platform! And yes while PC definitely has more perks, you pay for them, not only in money but in time (AIG install anyone?). Not everyone needs or wants that. I personally sim on a 6 year old laptop with a GTX 1060 which is comparable to an XBOX series S. I wish I had the series X horsepower!
@mta1864
@mta1864 Жыл бұрын
@@casew3776 Enjoy! I think you'll be pleased. Especially with the latest update, LatinVFR have improved this plane quite a bit! It's pretty bug free at this point.. The flight model is better. They even swapped out the original passengers for higher res models. If you're on PC and have GSX Pro, you'll notice that some of the people who are boarding are the ones who are seated on the plane! Brilliant!
@JamesDavis-mm2mi
@JamesDavis-mm2mi Жыл бұрын
This is possibly the best review of a video I’ve ever seen. Well done. Yes. I’ve yet to see a single reviewer on KZfaq take into consideration that if a plane is on xbox, it’s a very high likelihood that it’s for casual players. Serious simmers won’t be trying, at least shouldn’t, to make it work on Xbox and will invest in a high end PC. As long as the basics like lights, VFRs maps, altimeters and all that work and flight characteristics are somewhat close, it shouldn’t matter. That all said tho, there’s supposed to be an update coming up in march that’s supposed to allow devs like PMDG and FBW have their planes on marketplace. So that might very well change
@azayasund
@azayasund 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta wonder if someone will mod it so you can use the FBW systems, could end up being a pretty darn good mod til FSLabs or Fenix come out with theirs. If that’s the case, wouldn’t mind picking it up. Til then, I’ll wait and see.
@ArchNDA
@ArchNDA 2 жыл бұрын
I could see the community doing that!
@Dan-pv7cu
@Dan-pv7cu 2 жыл бұрын
Someone’s already done it
@azayasund
@azayasund 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dan-pv7cu LMAO!!! THAT was fast!!! LMAO!!!!
@saringerferenc7056
@saringerferenc7056 2 жыл бұрын
Jobban nez ki szerintem mint az E170/175 vagy az E190/195. Azok is olyan árban vannak mint ez és hat….. Akinek nincs lehetősége pc-s repülőt használnia arra szerintem jó lehet ez. Nem rossz ez ha tudod mivel szemben versenyzik 😊
@leopoldohernandez9924
@leopoldohernandez9924 Жыл бұрын
@hochmania - what would be a good place to buy aircraft for fs2020?
@nomadaviator8025
@nomadaviator8025 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it with the FBW mod? Apparently that's a thing
@nomadaviator8025
@nomadaviator8025 2 жыл бұрын
I see that you actually did do that already! Thoughts??
@owenklein1917
@owenklein1917 2 жыл бұрын
You’re way too harsh on this. Comparing it to other reskinned plane models on the market, it is much better. It isn’t nearly as bad as you describe it as
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
I think consumers should demand more. Not everything needs to be study level by any means. There's a middle ground, and this plane isn't there.
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and watching!
@gabor-toth
@gabor-toth 2 жыл бұрын
@@hochmaniac This plane is exactly that middle ground. LVFR has communicated clearly about it.
@Spudsmachenzie1
@Spudsmachenzie1 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabor-toth I agree if this isn’t middle ground not sure what is. In reality, the a320 cockpit is basically identical. So they used it, no big deal to me. I think it actually looks a bit better, lighting or something. A bit more refined. I agree with @hochmania that the price point should be a bit lower seeing how the Honda jet was $25 and is an amazing plane for Xbox users.
@markrudd6194
@markrudd6194 2 жыл бұрын
I think PCers need to realise this is not for them. This is good value as most livery packs are 4.99 for 6 or 7 plus 4 planes - yes it has faults - but this is aimed at bringing the Xbox level up - but i love how pc users complain when they have so many more choices.
@goldenstateaviation2861
@goldenstateaviation2861 2 жыл бұрын
I mean yes it is for the Xbox market but there were still no 321s for anyone until this appeared.
@samuelsmith2112
@samuelsmith2112 Жыл бұрын
Mainly for Xbox being that half of the overhead panel is nonfunctional Good for eye candy on a console or for beginner simmers
@ernestochaeririzarry7263
@ernestochaeririzarry7263 2 ай бұрын
For some reason the engines cut its power themselves mid flight I swear
@Jupitearth
@Jupitearth 11 ай бұрын
I thought you were swiss001 for a second
@v1rotatev230
@v1rotatev230 2 жыл бұрын
As long as people keep buying this still This is the quality we will get.
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong. Clearly the devs are making money with this model
@v1rotatev230
@v1rotatev230 2 жыл бұрын
@@hochmaniac wow thanks for replying made my day. I will say tho that I feel like that sums up what MSFS is and the crowd the sim is targeted for. There’s a reason why not everyone and not every dev headed over to MFSF with the quickness like everyone thought.
@jtekchannel1262
@jtekchannel1262 2 жыл бұрын
on the XBOX X Plane WORTH it different to A320 and included liveries they could have not add liveries with would not be worth it FUN & Different to A320 being smaller than bigger A321 NOT BAD TO 737
@FullFlight001
@FullFlight001 Жыл бұрын
Me who goes in to websites and gets PMDG and FENIX and LatinVR for free: worth the freeware
@JobuRum
@JobuRum Жыл бұрын
Please. Price does not correlate quality.
@games-er4hq
@games-er4hq 2 жыл бұрын
Xbox player's included me I will love to have a a321 because xbox player's can't buy nice planes from a website they can only buy things through the market place and xbox player's will love have a new aircraft and I don't care how the aircraft looks I guess went a new aircraft
@goldenstateaviation2861
@goldenstateaviation2861 2 жыл бұрын
Understood but it still shouldn’t cost as much as it does to be honest
@zacherius137
@zacherius137 Жыл бұрын
2:50 not even the door layout is correct. The A321CEO has 4 large doors, the NEO has 1 large door, then 2 overwing exits and then 2 large doors again. Do not touch.
@vasiliosgrekousis8192
@vasiliosgrekousis8192 Жыл бұрын
Depends for who! Those who come from Prepar3D/XP using the study level stock... uff... NEVER! :D
@BelicTransporter
@BelicTransporter 4 ай бұрын
Ahí veo Gotham Ultra
@BrandonSmith-zs8pe
@BrandonSmith-zs8pe 2 жыл бұрын
Got my money back for the a321 I’m just going wait for the a310 coming in November for free
@EarthWasHere
@EarthWasHere 2 жыл бұрын
How did you get a refund?
@zpetro7215
@zpetro7215 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have it :(
@bosnianaviation5531
@bosnianaviation5531 2 жыл бұрын
What happened
@danielgermon9762
@danielgermon9762 2 жыл бұрын
Bought it knowing it was not that bad but didnt think it was THAT bad 😂😂 now down 20.99
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate
@pm110978
@pm110978 2 жыл бұрын
Shane on you for buying it 😒
@yoshanetubetv5791
@yoshanetubetv5791 2 жыл бұрын
What makes it bad I need to know before I buy 🤣
@matt6548
@matt6548 2 жыл бұрын
@Hochmania - we need to start putting junk on the marketplace. Forget 1,000 subs. This is where the money is.
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
You're so right. This is my final video on YT
@unreleaseddrill1573
@unreleaseddrill1573 2 жыл бұрын
whata price
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
$24.99
@pm110978
@pm110978 2 жыл бұрын
$24.99 too expensive!
@fyzyk_3331
@fyzyk_3331 2 жыл бұрын
In my eyes, company which releases aircrafts like this, just loses reputation and in my opinion this shouldn't be even acceptable.
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
I certainly feel that way about certain other developers notorious for this behavior, but then again, I have no doubt they're making serious money.
@RSfandude
@RSfandude 2 жыл бұрын
Latin VFR is prob one of the best scenery makers out there, and i agree this is a risky move from them
@ChrisPUA320
@ChrisPUA320 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. But LVFR should stick to scenery development. This is NOT a A321neo!!! The A321neo has no 2L/R doors but 2 overwing exits on each side which are totally missing in this model. This is a regular A321-100 with sharklets which is not existent. Should have regular winglets.
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
I was pretty surprised to see them make a plane
@jviation737
@jviation737 2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. The ACF option was introduced in 2018. Prior to that, there are variants of the A321neo that did feature the L2 and R2 doors (Hawaiian, Philippines, Play, Alaska, etc)
@pm110978
@pm110978 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute crap.Should have been freeware just like the Headwind A330-900. Which by the way is a much better plane when compared to this!
@wootle
@wootle Жыл бұрын
Theres freeware better than this. Just use the default A320 and pretend youre in A318/19/20/21. Flight decks and wings are all the same. The wings on the Asobo are better even.
@noahmarcoux2696
@noahmarcoux2696 2 жыл бұрын
Marketplace only?!? I’ve been warned against it
@matt6548
@matt6548 2 жыл бұрын
a wise man once said: ya fool me, cant get fooled again.
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true!
@unreleaseddrill1573
@unreleaseddrill1573 2 жыл бұрын
price?
@hochmaniac
@hochmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
@@unreleaseddrill1573 As stated in the video, $24.99
@RSfandude
@RSfandude 2 жыл бұрын
Why tho its great on xbox, and its easy to make refunds
@CplKitfox
@CplKitfox Жыл бұрын
LOL. Comparing study level PMDG and Fenix to a $25 plane and bitching about it. 😆
@Sounyy_
@Sounyy_ Жыл бұрын
Ok. Then look at FBW A320 for FREE and then look at this A321 for 30EURO. FOR F*** SAKE
@MrMrgarmor
@MrMrgarmor 2 жыл бұрын
Piece of crap! Don’t wasted your money. Very bad for many reasons. I’ve tried dozen times. DONT BUY!
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