Is LDS Church culture under attack?

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Жыл бұрын

From a recent chant at a BYU away game to several documentaries to various news articles in recent times, there tends to be a lot of negativity surrounding the word "Mormon" these days.
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@lindabriggs5118
@lindabriggs5118 Жыл бұрын
I have a bit of a story to tell that happened to me being a member of the LDS faith. I live in North Carolina now, but it hasn't always been where I lived. I converted to the LDS faith back in 1973. But working now in NC, which has a Baptist base, I rarely get a negative reaction from my neighbors. Except once. I was taking care of a child who was comatose. The parents were Baptist. They mentioned how their church helped them. I never said anything negative concerning their religion but said I that's why love my faith because of how we help others, and in the discussion, I told them I was LDS. The next day, my supervisor called me to let me know the family requested that I don't return. I had taken care of the child for over a year. So I went to talk to my supervisor and was told that they accused me of practicing witchcraft in their home. I was flabbergasted, to say the least. About six months later I ran into the mother of that child in a store, and she apologized profusely about what happened and I told her, I had forgiven her and her family back when I was let go. We both cried and hugged. It turned out her child had passed and she wanted me to attend the funeral service. I told her I would be honored to be there. To this day I know the mother was under alot of stress, and I wasn't surprised at her initial reaction. She loved her child and wanted the best for that child. And I know that many people have negative feelings towards the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I love the church, its people, the leaders, and the Gospel. They strengthen and guide me through these troubling times.
@truthisbeautiful7492
@truthisbeautiful7492 Жыл бұрын
Did Joseph really find a feather when he was being paid to find sunken buried treasure? I'm asking seriously
@lw1959
@lw1959 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story 😊
@cristiantorres2891
@cristiantorres2891 Жыл бұрын
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 Жыл бұрын
I have a story about Brigham Young. Brigham Young stole Zina Diantha Huntington, a wife and mother, from her husband and children. He knocked her up and had a baby with her, destroying the family. Zina was tricked into adultery, she was a married woman with children, who Brigham tricked into sleeping with her. Not to mention Brigham Young marrying 15 year old Clarissa Decker and sleeping with her. Don't get me started on Joseph Smith. May I kindly recomend The CES Letter, The Mormon church's gospel topic essays, Grant Palmer's 'Insider's View to Mormon Origins.," or 'Letter for my Wife'. Trust me, Linda, when I say Mormons know nothing of their founders and their religion.
@DamonGarfield
@DamonGarfield Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@Chris27883
@Chris27883 Жыл бұрын
Concerning the poll at the end, I'm a member of the church and I have to say that there is definitely a difference between the Utah church culture and the Latter Day Saint culture outside of it.
@outsideview9052
@outsideview9052 Жыл бұрын
I would have to agree with that statement about Utah Mormons and those outside of the state. Kind of like living next to Romney who tells you how spiritual and righteous he is all of the time vs living next to John Stockton (I know he is not a member) who is simply a quiet but friendly neighbor.
@kentjensen4939
@kentjensen4939 Жыл бұрын
Maybe slightly on the surface, but not deep down.
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN Жыл бұрын
VERY understandable, it's the SAME with all such groups, the further away in belief, control, direction from the original you get such
@IGKRI
@IGKRI Жыл бұрын
100% outside is different, I’m from outside…
@truthisbeautiful7492
@truthisbeautiful7492 Жыл бұрын
Did Joseph Smith really find a feather when he was being paid to find sunken buried treasure? I am asking you seriously.
@luckyfish7582
@luckyfish7582 Жыл бұрын
Genuine question: When was the last time you observed a religious individual portrayed in a respectable, dignified way on TV, in movies, books, & the like?
@slconley
@slconley Жыл бұрын
All the time! What kind of movies and media are you consuming?
@davidgillis950
@davidgillis950 Жыл бұрын
I can’t think of one in recent mainstream media. There are plenty in non-mainstream.
@leahcarson1822
@leahcarson1822 Жыл бұрын
Art imitates life I guess🤷🏻‍♀️
@imafeltersnatch7634
@imafeltersnatch7634 Жыл бұрын
Why would anyone with a delusion deserve it?
@pop-upprayerwithpapaa8250
@pop-upprayerwithpapaa8250 Жыл бұрын
The Dalai Lama
@AutismFamilyChannel
@AutismFamilyChannel Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a world where people gave the benefit of the doubt? Asking people what they believe and trusting they mean it, rather than telling people what they believe makes a lot more sense to me.
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 Жыл бұрын
The Problem is most Mormon's don't know any of their own history, and are believing their religion without informed consent and under false pretenses.
@estherlewis7458
@estherlewis7458 Жыл бұрын
Churches have websites. It is not hard to find out what people believe.
@butterfly7495
@butterfly7495 Жыл бұрын
If you belong to a religion then people will assume you believe what they preach.
@randimillington1422
@randimillington1422 Жыл бұрын
And you know what they preach???. Mostly what non believers know about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are misconceptions. What is portrayed on TV specials is absolute garbage.
@lindathomas2350
@lindathomas2350 Жыл бұрын
You are so correct! Asking objectors to a faith instead of asking those of Faith what they believe is a ridiculous way to try to find any real facts!
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 Жыл бұрын
I am Catholic who knows no LDS members, but as someone who general pays attention to politics, especially pop politics (i.e. tv/film), I have too noticed the rising trend of targeting the Mormon faith. From that ex-Mormon documentary to that Hulu min-series, and the most recent BYU controversies relating to race there's probably some sort of active demonization on the part of the tv/film industry and more left leaning students. Frankly, being critical of Mormonism is the trend. Today Mormonism tomorrow who knows what religion will be pointed and sneered at.
@Terry-te1ij
@Terry-te1ij Жыл бұрын
Isn't the better self identification "Christian who is of the Catholic faith?" Catholics would id the LDS organization as quasi-Christian.
@natashatomlinson4548
@natashatomlinson4548 Жыл бұрын
Nonsense . It’s just that people are finally asking the hard questions about Mormonism publicly that should’ve been asked all along
@Jade_902
@Jade_902 Жыл бұрын
Because LDS is a cult!
@kristenmarie9248
@kristenmarie9248 Жыл бұрын
@@DA-wx9oz Every. Single. Religion.
@grantbeck9228
@grantbeck9228 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Scientology had a critical documentary about it. All the cults have documentaries exposing their trash beliefs. So what? Deserves to be criticized since it’s a brainwashing cult that lies to its members
@ladybugmom10
@ladybugmom10 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching Hello Saints on KZfaq. A Protestant pastor has been putting out videos of him learning about the LDS faith. His most recent one is of him attending LDS conference in Salt Lake City last weekend. He’s kind, respectful and genuinely curious even if he doesn’t agree. Very refreshing.
@jenchristy5867
@jenchristy5867 Жыл бұрын
I've seen many of his videos. He is respectful, but at the same time very passively trying to convert people away from the church. He should focus on his own congregation.
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 Жыл бұрын
@@jenchristy5867 So should the Mormons….stop sending your door to door salespeople telling others their religion is wrong….😤
@jenchristy5867
@jenchristy5867 Жыл бұрын
@@pattykake7195 true enough. But I have no control over that. I only had control over myself as a missionary, and I hated door to door with a passion. I never told anyone their religion was wrong. I only invited them to learn about ours, mostly for the fact there are a lot of lies and misconceptions spread about our beliefs. Honestly, I just wish all Christians can get along. We all love Jesus don't we? There is enough wickedness in the world that we should be focusing our fight on -and not on each other. That is why I believe that pastor should focus on his own congregation. We need to be strengthened in Christ for what is to come in the days ahead.
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 Жыл бұрын
@@jenchristy5867 With respect…do the salespeople mention the rock in a hat translation of the BOM ….or Joe marrying 14 year olds and other mens wives behind Emma’s back…I think not…🤫
@sbaby-np5hy
@sbaby-np5hy Жыл бұрын
@@pattykake7195 I would please ask you to have a little respect their Latter-Day Saint missionaries not door to door salesman. I grew up in a completely different religion before I converted to the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints and when I decided to be baptized I heard from my family who is of a completely different religion that's what they wish as well as the pastor of that denomination said that's what they think their religion should do send out missionaries to talk about the gospel that's what they are doing they're going to people's doors and want to teach them about the Gospel of Jesus Christ want to teach you about the church. Now it is a free country you do not have to listen and you do not have to like it but I have every right to say because it is a free country that you are being extremely disrespectful.
@zionmama150
@zionmama150 Жыл бұрын
Why, yes. Satan has been trying to slander Christ for years. It should be no surprise he’s doing the same now. His time is short tho as well as the wicked who follow him.
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 Жыл бұрын
Do not ever call the Mormon church Christ, that is the true slander.
@lambeezy5014
@lambeezy5014 Жыл бұрын
attacking Christ’s church is satan’s way of attacking Christ
@alexs3187
@alexs3187 Жыл бұрын
Criticizing a church and its leadership is not the same as attacking Christ.
@zionmama150
@zionmama150 Жыл бұрын
@@alexs3187 yes it is. Because they are doing His work and His commands
@alexs3187
@alexs3187 Жыл бұрын
@@zionmama150 well, conflating men with Christ would be blasphemous at best
@Liberalcali
@Liberalcali Жыл бұрын
I’m a catholic and I love my LDS peeps
@UnderWorldOfDarkness
@UnderWorldOfDarkness Жыл бұрын
You never had the Mormon Church put you on one of their gang stalking black lists. Once they put you on one of their lists that they admit they have, all the witches and satan worshipers will stalk you in your city, along with the Mormons.
@camdenmiller7127
@camdenmiller7127 Жыл бұрын
Love you too homie 🤜🤛
@leswalker2639
@leswalker2639 Жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with being a Catholic or a Protestant.
@leswalker2639
@leswalker2639 Жыл бұрын
@B H you're exactly right, that's what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints do all the time. Even though the people believe in different things, the way I see it there not up to speed yet, just give others a little while they will catch up. This is why I love the Lord's Church, you have to allow others to catch up when they're ready. That's where the Holy Ghost comes in to teach the things you seek.
@lw1959
@lw1959 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Right back atcha! ❤️
@karylmorgan7320
@karylmorgan7320 Жыл бұрын
I'm 75 and have been a member since age 16. I'm from Virginia and moved to Utah 4 years ago to be close to family. This is nothing new. There are just more Latter-day Saints in Utah.
@kathleenardrey5094
@kathleenardrey5094 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully that demographic is changing; used to be you couldn't get a job even as a medical doctor in Utah without the special undershirt. closed bunch of smug, under-educated folks.
@thelostone6981
@thelostone6981 Жыл бұрын
It’s actually been decreasing immensely since the creation of the internet. There is independent data on this. You can see how Mormonism, and even other religions, doesn’t hold up to scrutiny and many people are leaving.
@jonbaker476
@jonbaker476 Жыл бұрын
Ahem. You should be saying "members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." Otherwise it's a win for Satan
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 Жыл бұрын
@@thelostone6981 The lies of mormoncorp are being exposed big time by the internet…👏🏾👏🏾
@thomasmaughan4798
@thomasmaughan4798 Жыл бұрын
"There are just more Latter-day Saints in Utah" And many Latter-day AINTS ;-)
@iwantcheesypuffs
@iwantcheesypuffs Жыл бұрын
There will always be detractors of any large group, or high-profile personality. As that grows, so will the detractors. For me, if I want to know something about a people or person I just go and ask them. Media is hype, just like the topic for this feed is probably clickbait. It's the internet. If you search for something to validate your opinion -- you'll find it.
@estherlewis7458
@estherlewis7458 Жыл бұрын
The LDS church kept copious records of seemingly everything everyone ever said or did. The vile and obscene blasphemies spoken by church leaders should shock and appall you. No need for the internet, hearsay or gossip.
@leswalker2639
@leswalker2639 Жыл бұрын
That's why there is only one way to find truth and that is to ask our Lord Jesus Christ with real intent if it is nonsense or is it the truth! Anyone can say anything and call it truth or something else. Even if you ask someone, where do I find truth, they can point you the way. And it's up to your educational skills to find it. You still don't know if it is true until you ask the Lord. Is that too hard for some people to do, I think yes. The Lord has promised this great promise if we will ask we will receive truth and you will know it by the burning in your heart and in your mind if it is true, if not, Houston we have a problem.😒
@amandadangerfieldpiano
@amandadangerfieldpiano Жыл бұрын
Yes, we pray to the Father in the name of Jesus Christ.
@estherlewis7458
@estherlewis7458 Жыл бұрын
@@amandadangerfieldpiano The thief on the cross prayed to Jesus. Stephen prayed to Jesus. Acts 7 If you can't pray to Christ, then you have the wrong Christ. A Christ that cannot save you.
@leswalker2639
@leswalker2639 Жыл бұрын
@@amandadangerfieldpiano that's exactly what you should be doing. I do the same thing as far as I know every Christian pray to the father and close in the name of Jesus Christ, you're doing it right.
@joeshmo114
@joeshmo114 Жыл бұрын
LDS leadership should all be in prison.
@stevehamblin1035
@stevehamblin1035 Жыл бұрын
Won't happen, they probably pay off people with how rich they are with the 10 percent they get monthly from all the members that follows there leadership
@iznoir
@iznoir Жыл бұрын
what for? for speaking words you don't agree with? get real mate
@lesliegraham4735
@lesliegraham4735 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they will keep you company as you learn about the gospel of Jesus Christ: i am sure when they are dead they will be teaching the gospel to you. Hope you accept.
@joeshmo114
@joeshmo114 Жыл бұрын
@@iznoir For crimes against humanity.
@changan2942
@changan2942 Жыл бұрын
@@iznoir ikr exactly
@timbango2090
@timbango2090 Жыл бұрын
53% are crazy. The first question I get when I say I'm from Utah is do I got 5 wife's
@me21120
@me21120 Жыл бұрын
do I have 5 Wives
@maryannstout7600
@maryannstout7600 25 күн бұрын
@@me21120lol😂
@dhr161
@dhr161 Жыл бұрын
When you don't correct a lie, people think it must be true. It's important to correct lies about the church. It doesn't have to be done EVERY time (e.g. sometimes there's no one there who will listen anyway) and it shouldn't be done in a contentious way, but if we don't correct it who will? People won't know the truth if they don't hear the truth.
@amypola5903
@amypola5903 Жыл бұрын
And when you're being made a scapegoat in those lies. Jesus was not a doormat.
@Bullybob77
@Bullybob77 Жыл бұрын
As an honest investigator, the book of mormon has had several changes since 1830. Spelling, punctual, names changed, and paragraphs removed. Is that a lie? Are you willing to correct it?
@rickdavis2235
@rickdavis2235 Жыл бұрын
@@Bullybob77 WROTE: " As an honest investigator, the book of mormon has had several changes since 1830. Spelling, punctual, names changed, and paragraphs removed. Is that a lie? Are you willing to correct it? " All of Mormonism is a lie. Joseph Smith wrote himself into the King James bible and called it the JST, Joseph Smith Translation. He wrote prophesies about himself that he could fulfill.
@Bullybob77
@Bullybob77 Жыл бұрын
@@rickdavis2235 well yes, that is what investigation leads to if you use lds church approved material. so either the church is lying or the church is a sham, either way, the church isnt true
@wightman1525
@wightman1525 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that often what is deemed a lie today can become a truth tomorrow,, especially in the world of Mormonism. Example: Years ago critics of the LDS Church charged that JS used a peep stone in a hat to supposedly produce the BOM. The outcry was that the charge was anti Mormon lies. Now the church has admitted the story is true in its CES essays, even showing pictures of the actual peep stone. Now I hear Mormons saying they never said it was a lie in the first place. The changing world of Mormonism.
@pamweinberg1212
@pamweinberg1212 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of churches are under attack. It’s too bad that others feel it necessary to knockdown something they don’t know enough about. Religion is essential to our soul. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has done so many wonderful things to help others and try to walk in Christ’s footsteps. Religions are beautiful and provide tools to get through life. 😉💛😇
@dejavu8602
@dejavu8602 Жыл бұрын
Its petty even bringing it up! Reminds me of high school. Don't talk about a Catholic or Presbyterian who might have held up a drugstore. LOL
@ezragonzalez8936
@ezragonzalez8936 Жыл бұрын
Done beautiful things you mean brainwash people and use your money for projects that help no one but their coffers! religion is primitive superstition but the LDS is in the same league of scientology's lunacy! and don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about I was a member of the cult for 18 wasted years! Cheers From Salt Lake City!
@manderson4803
@manderson4803 Жыл бұрын
But why do they need the great big building so close together. Buildings that have 300$ a foot carpet?
@lw1959
@lw1959 Жыл бұрын
@@manderson4803 Because people actually use the buildings for services and activities. If there are many buildings where you live, there must be many members in your area.
@boysrus61
@boysrus61 Жыл бұрын
I think in relation to what the church owns, what they give is actually not that much. I'd like to see how they come up with their numbers. Truth is that we have no idea how the church, for example, came up with giving 900M over the past year. Are they counting the volunteer hours and giving a dollar amount to that? If they do, that isn't the church giving, that is the individual. (I guess those people could subtract that from their tithes and offering...) There is just no transparency in what these "wonderful" things are. Why doesn't the church open a soup kitchen or a woman's shelter? Digging wells, and making Days For Girls pads, are wonderful, but it is still people doing the work and donating the supplies, not the church. Exact transparency would be great.
@armansamani5289
@armansamani5289 Жыл бұрын
Confused if Mormon is a bad word , why it is called Book of Mormon ?
@tc2947
@tc2947 Жыл бұрын
Mormon is a person and a nickname... it would be equal to calling someone from Islam... Mohammad... oh they must all be Mohammad ( ignorant )
@kennethmoake1448
@kennethmoake1448 Жыл бұрын
Mormon isn't a bad word per se; he was a wonderful guy and we owe him a tremendous amount for his role in bringing the Book of Mormon to us. But the name of the church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And to omit the name of Jesus Christ from our name is, I believe, the real, main problem. Just as Jesus Christ is at the center of our name, Jesus Christ is at the center of everything we believe and strive to do as a church, and the nickname just ignores/hides all of that. Actually, our prophet President Nelson has recently let us know that enough is enough and it's time to assert the name of the Church again so emphasis is on Christ where it belongs.
@matthewsmith2996
@matthewsmith2996 Жыл бұрын
Mormon is the person that compiled records & though the book has his name in the title, its mostly not about him. I suppose the book could have been called "The Book of Joseph Smith".
@tc2947
@tc2947 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewsmith2996 Or matthew smith huh? not really
@lindapaxman7788
@lindapaxman7788 Жыл бұрын
A BOM prophet, named Mormon, ABRIDGED The MANY records over hundreds of years, and compiled the book...I am grateful 🙏 to be a Member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints...We were "nicknamed" Mormons because of the name of our Book of Mormon, by anti-LDS mobs in the 1800's...who were making fun of the book of scripture ... and sadly, the nickname stuck, even with MEMBERS! Until our prophet, Pres. Russell M. Nelson got us all THINKING AGAIN!! ❤️ MORMON, though a wonderful prophet in the BOM, did not die for our sins...Our Saviour, Jesus Christ, DID! WE are members of HIS church! 💕
@bryancsimmons
@bryancsimmons Жыл бұрын
Really? With all the ways the church slaughtered their response to the AP article, what you choose to focus on is the AP using "mormon" in the article? That is the current problem......the church not recognizing and owning up to the harm they have done and instead focusing on the misuse of a term and feeling victimized.
@leahcarson1822
@leahcarson1822 Жыл бұрын
Prosecution is the churches most powerful tool,if they point the congregation at an “attacker” the church made up they won’t want to criticize the church
@CourageGraceandKickintheAss
@CourageGraceandKickintheAss Жыл бұрын
I see what you're saying 💯%. I haven't been active for 30yrs. For a multitude of reasons but 1 of them is very similar to what you're saying. Honestly it comes down to the individuals that made these choice's to violate and abuse. No one else, not the church but the person/s that did it. Oh and btw I'm not religious at all. It's unjust and narrow minded for people to demonize group's of people or religion's. That is a major issue in the World today, frankly it always has been Honestly but has become much worse in the age of social media. I'm not saying that's what you did at all with your comment and again understand where you're coming from.
@redrockyogimomma4977
@redrockyogimomma4977 Жыл бұрын
Nailed it.
@annapatterson549
@annapatterson549 Жыл бұрын
But... but... their prophet said "abuse is bad" isn't that enough??? /s
@davidwallgren7575
@davidwallgren7575 Жыл бұрын
What HAS the church as a whole done in recent years?
@MsQ275
@MsQ275 Жыл бұрын
this is awful and biased reporting, where's the other side??
@MimicoBungalow
@MimicoBungalow Жыл бұрын
I think the "other side "is fairly obvious. This reporting was right on the mark. Make your own decision based on facts. The book of Mormon has nothing to do with Christianity.
@stephenpodesta1682
@stephenpodesta1682 Жыл бұрын
The Lord's church has always been under scrutiny and persecution we expect it to get worse as time goes by.
@darrellandsondraholden9457
@darrellandsondraholden9457 Жыл бұрын
AMEN, BUT THE QUESTION IS...DO YOU THINK THE LDS CHURCH IS THE LORD'S CHURCH?
@thomaschoate976
@thomaschoate976 Жыл бұрын
The trouble is that this isn’t unique to Mormonism. Many religions and cults have been under scrutiny and persecution. However, that doesn’t mean that those religions and cults are true. Also, these religions and cults will often take any criticism or questioning of their religion as persecution and develop a “persecution complex” to vindicate to themselves and other members in the in group that they are being persecuted because their group is right and true.
@manderson4803
@manderson4803 Жыл бұрын
But why do they need the great big building so close together. Buildings that have 300$ a foot carpet?
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 Жыл бұрын
Brigham Young stole, Zina Diantha Huntington, a wife and mother from her own family. He impregnated her, had a baby with her, and destroyed the active-Mormon family. Brigham, using his position, tricked the young woman into adultery.
@wheels636
@wheels636 Жыл бұрын
@@darrellandsondraholden9457 yes just too keep it simple the name of the church should say it all The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
@blizzard2oo
@blizzard2oo Жыл бұрын
often bad news and false reporting end up being better than no reporting at all. The honest in heart usually search out the truth first hand.
@maxwell_edison
@maxwell_edison Жыл бұрын
False reporting? So like... The entirety of the bible?
@RachelParker-1977
@RachelParker-1977 Жыл бұрын
They read the Word and obey John 3:16.
@sabreatchley2801
@sabreatchley2801 Жыл бұрын
Maxwell_Edison don't read between the lines.
@RachelParker-1977
@RachelParker-1977 Жыл бұрын
@@sabreatchley2801 Who are you writing that to?
@edwardgabriel5281
@edwardgabriel5281 3 ай бұрын
@@maxwell_edison Insofar as the oriinal material was translated incorrectly.
@annsertrue8782
@annsertrue8782 Жыл бұрын
@5:13 "While the AP obtained thousands of documents and brought to light a terrible abuse, there was one glaring error, the name of the church itself" This is the most amazing part of this report, as if calling us Mormons is a bigger deal then covering up child abuse. And let's all remember that is was only 8 years ago that the church produced the movie "Meet the MORMONS"! and did the whole I'm a MORMON campaign.
@kentstallard6512
@kentstallard6512 Жыл бұрын
This report is pathetic. Portraying the Church as the victim. No mention whatsoever of WHY the Church is criticized.
@straightouttaNZ
@straightouttaNZ Жыл бұрын
I was also shocked by this too. I noticed they didn't show the clip when Nelson said the use of "Mormon" is a win for Satan... because they know how absurd it would sound to non-members.
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Jesus only just realised the using the word Mormon is a victory for Satan…..🤣😈🤣
@fo4ty486
@fo4ty486 Жыл бұрын
@@pattykake7195 🤡there you are!
@keepinitreal938
@keepinitreal938 Жыл бұрын
I agree, this was a very one sided report... And I am a member.
@Mr_Fairdale
@Mr_Fairdale Жыл бұрын
It’s not just contained to Mormons. Modern American culture is very anti-religion. Unless that religion can be fetishized and used to push certain goals. Not that long ago I was told “LDS “ was offense. “Mormon is the preferred name” I was told. Now it’s the opposite. I’m confused.
@beachbuddies57
@beachbuddies57 Жыл бұрын
A few years ago they didn't want us to use either, but to use the whole name; Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It didn't take long before folks went back to LDS, which is what it's been mostly referred to my 65 years on earth.
@leahcarson1822
@leahcarson1822 Жыл бұрын
@@beachbuddies57 here in the states the church already has its fingers in everything lol
@grantbeck9228
@grantbeck9228 Жыл бұрын
They don’t want to use the word “Mormon” because internet searches will pop up too many uncomfortable facts
@sedg03
@sedg03 Жыл бұрын
@@leahcarson1822 including overthrowing America's Gov w treason.
@klb2513
@klb2513 Жыл бұрын
@@grantbeck9228 it's not an accurate portrayal of who we worship but rather a nickname given by enemies. The "m-word" if you will.
@sbm.4
@sbm.4 Жыл бұрын
Seeing things like this shows just how we as human beings are (be it a member of the church or not). I’m a member of the church and I love it. Some people love it, some don’t care for it, some hate it, some respect it, etc. Thing is, everyone has their own unique experiences with it and can base their opinion of it. I feel sad to see people saying “f*** the Mormons” but there’s nothing we can do about it except allow people to feel that way towards the church, and defend what we believe; vise-versa for people who differ in beliefs. I believe in a world of peace of coexisting with belief differences. I don’t think it’s possible however, I want to be the first that makes a step towards that direction. Hopefully, it’ll spread to those around me or at least they can feel peace in being themselves while with me and we both don’t have to sacrifice our beliefs for the sake of coexistence. Instead, we sacrifice our pride for the sake of peace and love.
@Nicolesrecoverycorner
@Nicolesrecoverycorner Жыл бұрын
I converted three years ago and refuse to live any other way
@haydentarawa4895
@haydentarawa4895 Жыл бұрын
💯
@leswalker2639
@leswalker2639 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your words with the world and your testimony. I know Satan's church does not want to hear the Lord's commandment he give to all of us, love one another as I have loved you. We are our Brother's Keeper.
@Roxality
@Roxality Жыл бұрын
Amen ❤
@julietteshuler335
@julietteshuler335 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for standing up for the church! As I am also a member it makes me sad that someone would post this but I will share the gospel to as many people as I can.
@NosmoKing001
@NosmoKing001 Жыл бұрын
The LDS Church has been persecuted from its beginning. That’s how they arrived in Utah. I wish the report gave it some historical context instead of listing recent TV shows as evidence.
@BlindIo42
@BlindIo42 Жыл бұрын
Stop it with this persecution narrative - the Mormons were chased out of towns back east because they would come in, take over the government, impose their will on non-mormons, and generally tick everyone off. They were a disruptive cult that refused to play by the rules - but you only hear the "oh poor us, persecuted for our faith" nonsense in history classes in Utah. They weren't persecuted for their faith, they were held accountable for their actions.
@tabithalayton2001
@tabithalayton2001 Жыл бұрын
They’re not giving historical context to the native Americans who were killed off during that move
@zammmerjammer
@zammmerjammer Жыл бұрын
How cool was the LDS church towards Black people? Super great? Or not so much? Thought so.
@maxinekennedy5888
@maxinekennedy5888 Жыл бұрын
Bank fraud and evading the law on polygamy tends to be unpopular and get you prosecuted. Not the same as persecuted.
@wheels636
@wheels636 Жыл бұрын
@@tabithalayton2001 For the most part the LDS church shared food and shelter with the early Indians. My relatives were some of the first to settle in Utah.
@marcohancock6063
@marcohancock6063 Жыл бұрын
The most persecution I’ve ever felt has been from people I attend church with!
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 Жыл бұрын
And the horrendous shunning ex Mormons receive when they find out the church is a fraud who conned them, and then resign…..😠
@keith1617
@keith1617 Жыл бұрын
Liar
@thomasmaughan4798
@thomasmaughan4798 Жыл бұрын
"The most persecution I’ve ever felt has been from people I attend church with!" It would be difficult to be persecuted by people you do not encounter. Consequently, the likely persecutor of a Catholic will be another Catholic, and so on; name the church.
@keith1617
@keith1617 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasmaughan4798 you're a liar
@GldnClaw
@GldnClaw Жыл бұрын
You're telling me. The most vitriolic hate I ever received around the time of Prop 8 in California were from supposedly "active" members who would tear up signs and just be terrible people in general
@jojomedic2578
@jojomedic2578 Жыл бұрын
The prophecy said “No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing.”
@changan2942
@changan2942 Жыл бұрын
I'm a member from Australia, there's not a lot of hate compared to the USA... idk why American's are so rude to so many religions, just mind your own business...
@Yaahboi52
@Yaahboi52 Жыл бұрын
@@changan2942 that’s America for ya
@williamparks867
@williamparks867 Жыл бұрын
The biggest threat to the LDS church is the LDS church.
@ricsimmons2003
@ricsimmons2003 Жыл бұрын
@@changan2942 LDS sending out thousands of missionaries is minding your own business?
@changan2942
@changan2942 Жыл бұрын
@@ricsimmons2003 yeah? if u don't like the church, ignore it and mind your own business
@johngagon
@johngagon Жыл бұрын
I would hope people respect others as human beings first, regardless of faith they grew up in. But if you choose to portray the negative stereotypes associated with any brand, be it a team, employer, church, culture, then that is respected differently. The issue seems to come from the disparity between inherent culture and elective brand. Every culture seems to come with one but important to not confuse the two in terms of treatment. If one is playing attitudes from the brand, then it's a brand reaction and it shouldn't be disrespect towards the culture. It's really just treating people as individuals, defaulting respect and not assuming too much by their cultural identity. By the same token, you might also get favorable treatment for playing the positive aspects, depending on the values shared.
@amandalea2519
@amandalea2519 Жыл бұрын
Poll at the end is interesting. Church culture isn’t the church doctrine. Also, I’m currently living outside of Utah and there are many people who don’t even know about the church. In the Book of Mormon belt (Utah, Arizona and Idaho… and generally the west coast) there is a lot more pushback towards the church than outside it.
@scottvance74
@scottvance74 Жыл бұрын
The poll found that something like 56% of the people in Utah think that the church is unfairly persecuted. Consider however that roughly 60% of the people in Utah identify as being Mormon. That means that it's plausible that 90% of the Mormons feel like they're being persecuted, which honestly is nothing new. They've felt like that since the 1830s. Sometimes it was true, and other times they were facilitating crime (3 counterfeiting operations in Nauvoo) or doing other illegal activities (such as polygamy) which informed the ill treatment which they received at the hand of government and some of their neighbors. In Missouri at least the Saints were also guilty of harassing their neighbors at times, something which Sunday school lessons generally overlook.
@amandalea2519
@amandalea2519 Жыл бұрын
@B H lots of things. Even some members don’t even like living where the church membership is great. But a lot of it is that members of the church like to stick together and that can make others feel left out. But this similar to many religions and cultures. Where I live there are a lot of Russians and I have heard comments from non-Russians complaining about them. Usually because they had a few bad experiences and therefore don’t like Russians. Also, if people leave the church they can sometimes leave with a vengeance and that never goes well. Instead of leaving the highly populated member area they stay and be angry towards the church. Idk. There is just so many layers to it. But ultimately comes down to human nature.
@rum-ham
@rum-ham Жыл бұрын
I really don't miss having to constantly hear about Mormons vs Non-Mormons. Glad I left Utah.
@karis3647
@karis3647 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to get out
@cassieroach3957
@cassieroach3957 Жыл бұрын
I’m leaving to get away from it!
@BigShaneGillis
@BigShaneGillis 4 ай бұрын
Lol wait til you find out about the original religion and how they feel about the people that aren’t apart of the tribe. The worlds bigger than Mormons hahahaha
@bearonaromp7473
@bearonaromp7473 3 ай бұрын
Buh-Bye!
@edwardgabriel5281
@edwardgabriel5281 3 ай бұрын
So, what is this versus stuff?
@johnchildree782
@johnchildree782 Жыл бұрын
As a member we do not expect everyone to join the church. If they say no that is fine, let them worship who and what ever they wish. If you want to know more about the church and believe what we believe we will be happy to tell you, however that does not mean you have to believe it. Just let us know and we will go.
@Wilvekio69
@Wilvekio69 Жыл бұрын
The lds churches believes they are the only true church and if you are not a Mormon then you won’t be saved by any means! That’s not what Jesus said in the Bible! JS was a liar. Continue living the lie!
@1god126
@1god126 Жыл бұрын
sad though so many members get upset at mainstream christians because they try teaching their message to members sad also members say things "let "them" worship who and what "they" will"
@C.Noble13
@C.Noble13 11 ай бұрын
Nepotism The mormon wars Bishops meaning watchers Fallin Elohim.
@heatherbstrasser
@heatherbstrasser 7 ай бұрын
That is complete bs lol I grew up in the church
@thelatterdayarbiter
@thelatterdayarbiter Жыл бұрын
Homosexual polyamorous marriages are accepted, yet polygamy is hated these days. Why is that? 🤣 WABOL
@thomaschoate976
@thomaschoate976 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm…probably because early Mormon prophets (including Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Wilford Woodruff, Lorenzo Snow) married teenage girls several decades younger than them🤷. Joseph Smith at 37 married Helen Mar Kimball at 14. Brigham Young (or Bring’em Young) at 42 married Clarissa Decker at 15. Lorenzo Snow at 57 married Sarah Minnie Jensen at 15. Wilford Woodruff at 46 married Emma Smoot Smith at 15. The U.S. average age of marriage from 1850-1880 was 27 for men and 23 for women.
@thelatterdayarbiter
@thelatterdayarbiter Жыл бұрын
@@thomaschoate976 have you even considered those women's perspectives as well as the concept for their consent?
@thomaschoate976
@thomaschoate976 Жыл бұрын
@@thelatterdayarbiter Question: Do you think 14 and 15 year old girls are women? And do you think they are able to give consent to religious authority figures in their lives who are in their 40s and 50s?
@thelatterdayarbiter
@thelatterdayarbiter Жыл бұрын
@@thomaschoate976 even the sealer asks the bride if she desires the marriage of HER own free will and choice. Besides, most people in the West can't even define what a female is these days, but nice try tho. 🤣
@davericard2020
@davericard2020 Жыл бұрын
@Thomas Choate That’s just not a fair assessment. Don’t you know Helen Mar Kimball was not 14. She married Joseph “several months before her 15th birthday” she was 14 and 1/2 or 174 months old sounds mature. Cmon get you facts straight 😉
@joecook5689
@joecook5689 Жыл бұрын
So, what exactly was the chant?
@Newdayautoimmunecoaching
@Newdayautoimmunecoaching Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's the silence and lack of reply that puts people off. I'm in the UK and had LDS missionaries contact me twice. Both times I asked about unfulfilled prophecies of Joseph Smith. They say they've never heard about them before and they'll find answers and get back to me.... then ghost me. 😒
@robertjensen4525
@robertjensen4525 Жыл бұрын
One problem I see that the LDS church has always been targeted so why don’t everyone give us a break,like I have always said ‘before you cast the first stone make sure your closet has nothing in it’.
@corybritton1966
@corybritton1966 Жыл бұрын
Every so called "persecution" the Mormon church has undergone has been for legitimate reasons. The bank in Kirkland Ohio, the land & livestock purchasing with worthless Kirkland bank notes in Missouri, the Gestapo techniques of destruction of the printing press in Illinois etcetera, & on & on. The Mormons always tell only their side if the story which is tainted by the absence of the truth!!!
@MimicoBungalow
@MimicoBungalow Жыл бұрын
Rather unfortunately, the Mormon closet has a lot of skeletons in it. No faith is perfect, but their doctrine contains so many twisted nooks and crannies that I would really stay away.
@ZootZinBootZ
@ZootZinBootZ Жыл бұрын
LDS was invented recently... persecuted complex aspirations take centuries to cultivate.... Maybe try Buddhism
@robsin2810
@robsin2810 Жыл бұрын
We have been attacked since the beginning. Nothing has changed, and we feel it will become more intense. We follow the teachings of our Saviour 🙏🇦🇺👍
@GeneralWinter9
@GeneralWinter9 Жыл бұрын
No you don't. You're an anti-Russia fascist
@teresagradolf974
@teresagradolf974 Жыл бұрын
Mormons are copy cat of Jesus christ Jesus is not in that alien project with DC
@rickdavis2235
@rickdavis2235 Жыл бұрын
Rob Sin WROTE: " We have been attacked since the beginning. Nothing has changed, and we feel it will become more intense. We follow the teachings of our Saviour 🙏🇦🇺👍" Your saviour is the spirit brother of Lucifer.
@AdamThygerson-lm1gt
@AdamThygerson-lm1gt 3 ай бұрын
@@rickdavis2235 yes but jesus would follow god's will rather then his own desires like satan,
@janaweser1986
@janaweser1986 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say. It’s easier to be lds in Utah than not. I’ve felt discriminated because I choose not to go to church. It’s hard to find friends. Maybe I am not being attacked but I am being isolated.
@user-anonymous95
@user-anonymous95 Жыл бұрын
You should not be forced. Force is what the devil wants. You don't have to go to church
@janaweser1986
@janaweser1986 Жыл бұрын
@@user-anonymous95 well, I don’t believe there’s such thing as devil, in my opinion it’s people making bad decisions. I’ve felt forced to go to church I didn’t go but it felt like people were forcing me. One time I agreed to make a poster for a church event because I like art, I was told to drop it off on Sunday morning at the church so I walked over there with my toddler in the stroller. I saw someone I knew right outside the entrance I gave him the poster to take it inside. He started pushing the stroller with my daughter inside the church building while trying to tell me I should really join them for church. I said I wasn’t coming and then the door closed behind him. He was waiting for me to go in but I told him I wasn’t going to. It made me quite mad that he would use the child to make me come in. He brought her back out after a while and tried to laugh about it. I didn’t think it was funny at all. Since then they’ve pretended they don’t see me when we run into each other
@user-anonymous95
@user-anonymous95 Жыл бұрын
@@janaweser1986 that’s wrong. That is an awful representation of the church. Some people are too forceful… that’s especially why we’ve started teaching “worry about yourself unless you’re on a mission”
@janaweser1986
@janaweser1986 Жыл бұрын
@@user-anonymous95 it is wrong but no one got it on camera so it didn’t happen
@user-anonymous95
@user-anonymous95 Жыл бұрын
@@janaweser1986 well still, people in any church should not force anyone to join. Jesus didn’t condemn, why do they condemn? What I’m trying to say is, it’s your choice, let it be your choice
@cynthiab3168
@cynthiab3168 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being more offended about a nickname than the long-term abuse of children... Even if the Bisbee case were the only one it's extremely egregious. Where is the flood of faithful members and leaders wanting to make sure it never happens again?!
@uraniumu242
@uraniumu242 Жыл бұрын
How do you know their hasn't been a flood of concerned faithful members? Have you some information that the rest of us has no awareness of? S ome international poll of our 16 million members or a representative sampling? As for the name of the church it denotes our belief that it is led and founded by Christ. Allowing a nickname to be used detracts from our mission. This has been an ongoing effort for the last ten years. The name "Mormon" was originally used as a slur by people who drove LDS people out of their state because of growing political clout and our opposition to slavery. With all the talk about personal pronouns I would think you would be more tolerant. You make a false assumption that we care more about our nickname than the safety of our membership. You are using fallacies to push your agenda and it shows. As a former scout master we were always to practice "2 deep leadership" meaning that no leader was ever alone with any scout, another must always be present. That has been the case for 20 years. As a ministering brother I am never to enter the home of a single woman without a second being present. That has been the case for my 67 years in the church.
@Fred-mp1vf
@Fred-mp1vf Жыл бұрын
There is a great deal being done to prevent abuse! All of us need to be part of the solution and be more involved.
@cynthiab3168
@cynthiab3168 Жыл бұрын
@@Fred-mp1vf so long as the church has leaders call church lawyers instead of reporting to authorities there is not enough being done.
@joycechampion3124
@joycechampion3124 Жыл бұрын
The church is doing a lot, including having two teachers in each children's class and keeping doors open when children are being interviewed for callings. It is taken very seriously.
@cynthiab3168
@cynthiab3168 Жыл бұрын
@@joycechampion3124 I'll say it again: For as long as the church has bishops calling church lawyers about abuse they are not doing enough. Until the church begins to do the morally correct thing rather than the legal minimum they are not doing enough. I also would not call what the church does do "a lot." Two deep leadership, open doors, and a 15 minute training are the bare minimum and hardly comprehensive.
@cybercab
@cybercab Жыл бұрын
The main issue the LDS group faces is the internet revealing the truth and history of the group.
@jeffs4483
@jeffs4483 Жыл бұрын
True. The main impediment to their growth is Google.
@cybercab
@cybercab Жыл бұрын
@@jeffs4483 Yep!. Scientology is facing the same extensional threat.
@annapatterson549
@annapatterson549 Жыл бұрын
And "hate people" who make videos exposing them.😂 I really like Zelf On The Shelf!!
@frandanco6289
@frandanco6289 Жыл бұрын
cybercab --- So do You Believe Everything You Read on the internet????? Wow....
@cybercab
@cybercab Жыл бұрын
@@frandanco6289 That is a logical fallacy called the Strawman Argument. When one person can’t refute a point, they refute a weaker argument which was never made. Perhaps you are confusing me with someone who said one should believe everything you read on the internet. I understand you’re backed into a corner of inconvenient facts. I hope you can find some peace and the truth.
@zionmama150
@zionmama150 Жыл бұрын
It is really important to fight back with an example because people so often take your words and twist them to whatever they want them to mean. Christ only ever taught in parables except with His disciples for this reason.
@dejavu8602
@dejavu8602 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Just as the Bible has been copied by JoeSmith telling the same story in his own words in BOM
@zionmama150
@zionmama150 Жыл бұрын
@@dejavu8602 OK you go believe that…… I know better
@zionmama150
@zionmama150 Жыл бұрын
@@korvaamiko66 no actually, those parts needed no translation. And the translation was more of “inspired noted” so it could be better understood on the tricky parts rather than a “translation”.
@MrNirom1
@MrNirom1 Жыл бұрын
@@korvaamiko66 I guarantee that if the Book of Mormon was written differently than that of the KJV of the Bible... people would have harped on that too. And because Joseph was not the one who wrote the book, you can't blame him for it. Whoever was making the words appear on the stone is the one you want to crucify!! Oh wait. He was already crucified once.
@MrNirom1
@MrNirom1 Жыл бұрын
@@korvaamiko66 It is more about the truth... than being criticized. In the Book of Mormon, you have a group of people that have been led out the land of Jerusalem, travel to the . They have with them records of Brass which are the records of the Old Testament. So if that is the only scriptures they have... would you not think that they would quote them? The only other scripture that they would have is when their prophets receive revelation and they write down that which was revealed. Example is knowing that the Name of the Messiah is Jesus Christ. Also knowing that the law of Moses was going to be done away with... but not until the Savior was dead long before even the Jews knew. Then out with old and in with the new.
@billiondollardan
@billiondollardan Жыл бұрын
The church has a major persecution complex. I don't think that criticism of the faith has gotten anywhere near as bad as what Catholicism has gone through in the past twenty years.
@joechase1927
@joechase1927 Жыл бұрын
Can we get these interviewees a cup of water and a napkin for crying out loud?
@curtisblanco4029
@curtisblanco4029 Жыл бұрын
He is talking about our personal battle with sin.
@jobie105able
@jobie105able Жыл бұрын
The LDS church has little choice but to turn the other cheek. To address the criticisms publicly would be to lift the rug that all the old dirty doctrines have been swept under.
@jonathanwhite8904
@jonathanwhite8904 Жыл бұрын
I've noticed that since the BOM musical and Romney losing, around 2013-2014 there has been a real shift in the attitude and culture toward the church. There has been a real movement lately towards attacking the church and it's members. I think that it just sells.
@matthewhunter6421
@matthewhunter6421 Жыл бұрын
I think the poll is a bit absurd. Lots of people who don't understand something think they do. I would venture to guess there's a much higher percentage of people who don't actually understand the LDS church,but believe they do, or intentionally hold on to their incorrect beliefs or bigoted views of it, claiming they understand it. That's just obvious.
@carlnebrin
@carlnebrin Жыл бұрын
Mormonism was founded by a freemason, an indesputible fact - not a bigoted view.
@aspieboy74
@aspieboy74 Жыл бұрын
If the world hates you, remember they hated me first. - some guy
@jeffwilson4693
@jeffwilson4693 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add that the FLDS Church mentioned in the newscast is not part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints which Joseph Smith established.
@railroadrust9452
@railroadrust9452 Жыл бұрын
Cut from the same beginnings, belief and practice though
@thomaschoate976
@thomaschoate976 Жыл бұрын
The only reason FLDS do polygamy is because the early Mormon prophets were doing it Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, etc. The FLDS is pretty much just the 19th century Mormon church in modern times. I don’t see how you can condemn someone like Warren Jeffs who married teenage girls and not condemn the early Mormon prophets who married teenage girls (Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Lorenzo Snow, Wilford Woodruff, etc.)
@jeffwilson4693
@jeffwilson4693 Жыл бұрын
@B H So said the dirt to the temple.
@iMatti00
@iMatti00 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the reporters being accurate when they say that most religions have they scrutiny at one time or another. I kind of assumed being from Utah they would lean into the persecution mantra. Though if the church thinks that I believe all of these scandals that come directly from church hierarchy is a bunch of nothing then they are mistaken
@thelostone6981
@thelostone6981 Жыл бұрын
It’s called the [insert religion here] Persecution Complex. It’s more that the belief doesn’t hold up to scrutiny and people would rather defend a flawed epistemology than let go of a bad or unfounded belief. So in one way, yes, Mormonism is under attack. BUT it’s because it fails at sooooooo many ways. But don’t fret Mormons, so are most religions. People are waking up to irrational beliefs.
@ats-3693
@ats-3693 Жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏
@chapmanchaps
@chapmanchaps Жыл бұрын
And what exactly is “rational” in your mind? I’m genuinely interested in what you consider to be the “rational” alternative?
@MindfulMassage
@MindfulMassage Жыл бұрын
THIS. THIS. THIS.
@ats-3693
@ats-3693 Жыл бұрын
@@chapmanchapsYou know, not being a deluded nut and thinking that the various invisible magic beings and characters from a Middle Eastern book of myths and fables are real, that's a pretty rational alternative 👍
@brandonbowen3877
@brandonbowen3877 Жыл бұрын
What's the correct epistemology?
@Riverrstone
@Riverrstone Жыл бұрын
Dean must be James Carville's brother.
@shilohlofgran9574
@shilohlofgran9574 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much guys! Really a breath of fresh air from all the negativity
@amypola5903
@amypola5903 Жыл бұрын
Sweet pea, that piece was not helpful.
@Inzpectre
@Inzpectre Жыл бұрын
Its been said that in the last day, they will call zion names, monsters, and they will all gather against us. But if we stay steadfast through the hate, we will be feared, we will not fear. Do not be scared because of the mockery, it is just another piece of evidence that whats been said about the last days, really are true. :)
@karldanger5150
@karldanger5150 Жыл бұрын
"Why?" Really? If you have to ask why you're likely a member of the church. Talk to people who aren't LDS... whole different perspective 🤔 I've been treated differently/badly by church members simply because I'm not LDS. Very sad.
@cathyearl8999
@cathyearl8999 Жыл бұрын
I welcome anyone to go to a service with me
@cathyearl8999
@cathyearl8999 Жыл бұрын
I welcome anyone to go to a service with me
@motonut4172
@motonut4172 Жыл бұрын
@@cathyearl8999 why would anyone want to go to the cults "service" as a former member I can and will tell you its well disguised sham designed to control its members by spreading lies, misinformation and Indoctrinating children whos minds are still developing. Tell me im wrong with facts
@wheels636
@wheels636 Жыл бұрын
Some of that is probably perceived. If Im LDS and go to say Boston or A heavily catholic area Im sure I would feel a bit out of place. But is that my perception or is it really the case.
@davericard2020
@davericard2020 Жыл бұрын
@cathy earl This comment says it all! @ I welcome anyone to go to a service with me.” You’re proving the point of how Mormons treat others. You accept them as long as they go to church.
@tomchristian9932
@tomchristian9932 Жыл бұрын
I am not a member of the LDS church, however; I have no issued with the church or it’s members! Leave them be…
@Unavesmas1990
@Unavesmas1990 Жыл бұрын
Amen. This church is insane when you start getting into the long history of abuse and lies.
@tomchristian9932
@tomchristian9932 Жыл бұрын
So a few bad apples and the whole barrel is rotten, I think not… narrow mindedness gets you nowhere…
@thomaschoate976
@thomaschoate976 Жыл бұрын
We should make sure to separate personal attacks on members of the church and genuine criticism of the church as an organization. Someone pointing out how the Book of Mormon is not historical, the history of polygamy is authoritative, sexist, and harmful to women and girls, that racism in the church was taught by prophets and apostles, or the current discrimination against LGBT folks is not the same as someone who just says “F*ck the Mormons”. Also, as a former member, the term “Mormon” is not derogatory. Seeing as the church itself promoted the “I am a Mormon” campaign as well as the “Meet the Mormons” movie.
@jonnyhilljackson5788
@jonnyhilljackson5788 Жыл бұрын
would you be interested in coming back if they instituted polygamy. I am finding most lds in early days raving polygamists. Hyrum,Joe,Taylor,Richards
@annapatterson549
@annapatterson549 Жыл бұрын
YESSS 100%
@keida197
@keida197 Жыл бұрын
Originally the term “Mormons” was a word used as a type of slang from those who persecuted the saints in the early stages of the Church’s foundation. It was a term that was meant to be derogatory and as a mockery to those who practiced in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. The members adopted the nickname as a way to use it against the persecutors. The name has always been and always will be The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It has been encouraged in the past that members separate themselves from calling themselves “Mormons” for that is not who we worship and that is not the name of our Church. The members developed a bad habit of adopting a name that was never ours to take claim of. We are not followers of Mormon. We are followers in Christ.
@anthonyanderson7311
@anthonyanderson7311 Жыл бұрын
@@keida197 what exactly is persecution?
@keida197
@keida197 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyanderson7311 referring to the word itself or how it is being used?
@kjl6039
@kjl6039 Жыл бұрын
I will never get the people who feel they are justified in mocking or attacking others. What have the Mormons done to people outside of the religion that is horrible? The answer is nothing. The Church of Jesus Christ serves and helps others no matter race, religion, or politics. The attacking of Mormons is based on ignorance. The more crazy this world becomes the more I cling to the gospel of Jesus Christ.
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Жыл бұрын
I could write an entire book about the harm they have done to the world.
@estherlewis7458
@estherlewis7458 Жыл бұрын
The Book of Mormon teaches that I attend the church of the devil.
@Unavesmas1990
@Unavesmas1990 Жыл бұрын
What about poor families being told to pay tithing above all else? Especially when the church has a ginormous hedge fund with probably around 200 billion now since the article was released? With 6% dividends per year…you do the math.
@MimicoBungalow
@MimicoBungalow Жыл бұрын
You are not clinging to the gospel of Jesus Christ by believing in false doctrines and extra books.
@davidwallgren7575
@davidwallgren7575 Жыл бұрын
@@philbrooks5979 I'll bet it's all from the past or false accusations
@outofnowhere5796
@outofnowhere5796 Жыл бұрын
Mormons are some of the very best people and don't deserve this judgemental, self-righteous bigotry from people who probably don't know any Mormons. Let people live!
@Nothing-ox3oy
@Nothing-ox3oy Жыл бұрын
You know, I brought this all up with my president yesterday and this is the best answer I've heard since I've become aware of the church's struggles. Be a peacemaker, live the example, be the face of the church.
@jonnyhilljackson5788
@jonnyhilljackson5788 Жыл бұрын
joey and his polygamist clan in carthage jail used pistols a blazing peacemaking lol
@Nothing-ox3oy
@Nothing-ox3oy Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyhilljackson5788idk who that is or what event you are referring to, but maybe its high time we pick up the gun again rather than the ballot.
@estherlewis7458
@estherlewis7458 Жыл бұрын
Joseph Smith was arrested 42 times. Is that peace making?
@Unavesmas1990
@Unavesmas1990 Жыл бұрын
Do you even know why Joseph was placed in liberty jail? Because he destroyed a printing press publishing the truth of his polygamy. Which he lied and denied to members. He had 30+ wives.
@Nothing-ox3oy
@Nothing-ox3oy Жыл бұрын
@@Unavesmas1990 also don't care. Go do something more constructive than trying to convert random LDS members in KZfaq comment sections. How pathetic.
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Жыл бұрын
The creation of an irrational and false persecution complex serves the interests of cults, to keep members in line. This is a common cult tactic.
@Unavesmas1990
@Unavesmas1990 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Study the BITE model, people! LDS church ticks the boxes.
@The_worst_alchamists
@The_worst_alchamists Ай бұрын
We aren’t a cult, we did nothing to be labeled as such, we don’t create “false persecution”it’s a genuine problem that we can’t do anything about other than be the better person
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Ай бұрын
@@The_worst_alchamists CES Letter.
@ernestorodriguez8367
@ernestorodriguez8367 Жыл бұрын
Evito las puertas de las iglesias aquí en este estado todos son Bienvenidos porque tú crees y todo lo que hemos en un Dios de la vida y en eso estamos de acuerdo y muchos estados nunca me han querido los hermanos pero si vemos cómo sido asesinados y justamente a su familia Pero ellos han salido adelante eso está demostrado porque siembran con mucha fe y siempre reciben 100 veces más porque eso es lo que el creador nos ha puesto a prueba la vida siempre será lo más sagrado
@vetog9438
@vetog9438 Жыл бұрын
Te han avado el cerebro, averigua bien
@Honey_Faith
@Honey_Faith Жыл бұрын
If they stayed away from politics, it would help a lot. I love Mormons. I was one for 23 years. It helped me a great deal. but it also hurt me a great deal. I love Mormon people. Many of them. But they need to take accountability for their collective actions, overstepping like when it is not their place. Living in Utah, I see them overstepping. That is my only problem. Like the trans laws and things like that. The church is heavily hidden behind the scenes of laws. And they outsource their members/missionaries to get involved in taking rights away from others like during proposition 8 in California. They act like victims but what do they do to women and children. They put them in a place of powerlessness. Utah is one of the worst places for domestic violence accountability. I hope this changes.
@Cameronthain
@Cameronthain 11 ай бұрын
Do they ACTUALLY expect us to forget that a decade or so ago they FLOODED KZfaq with those ‘I’m a Mormon’ ads? Now it’s a slur?… please. Which Article of Faith did the church violate with their SCC fines for Ensign Peak? Asking for a friend…
@movemetoutah
@movemetoutah Жыл бұрын
As someone who has recently relocated here to Utah. Never been LDS. Lived in the South, Midwest, and East Coast. I can tell you that most people everywhere else in the country gives little thought to the LDS church. They know nothing of their history, beliefs, and customs. It's just not that big of a population outside of Utah even within Christendom. When they come across and LDS member, rarely would they engage in religious conversation the way people do here in Utah. I find it strange that this news piece asked everyone within the church about their feelings about recent news and events. What about people who live here in SLC, ex-mormons, and citizens like myself who have never been a member of the LDS church? I'm sure you feel as if it is an attach if you are member. Many of these shows have been documentaries and dramatised historical pieces. If these things really happened, why is it an attach to shed light on those events?
@tuerisenikuraciri9912
@tuerisenikuraciri9912 Жыл бұрын
The church welcome positive criticism even negative criticism ......it helps the church to grow and be strong in the faith in Jesus Christ, the church and its leadership.
@kentjensen4939
@kentjensen4939 Жыл бұрын
On the other hand, when you know you're right you can do like the third wave in Lehi's dream and, "Heed them not."
@moronirubio2778
@moronirubio2778 Жыл бұрын
You should say that to Dalling H. Oaks or any other high rank leader. I don’t think they will agree with you 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@rogermetzger7335
@rogermetzger7335 Жыл бұрын
Facts rarely matter - especially when it comes to someone's attitude toward people whose religious or political philosophy is different from their own. People believe what they believe (including what they believe about other people or groups of people) based on what they prefer to believe - any evidence notwithstanding.
@bret2331
@bret2331 Жыл бұрын
Perception is reality...can't change that.
@notmissunity8240
@notmissunity8240 Жыл бұрын
ya
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Жыл бұрын
Latter Day Satanism.
@redrockyogimomma4977
@redrockyogimomma4977 Жыл бұрын
Not balanced. You didn't interview happy healthy ExMos. Do another segment. 💗
@amandadangerfieldpiano
@amandadangerfieldpiano Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did say "The Church of Jesus Christ of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" at least three times in the video (I am still listening).
@dsbennett
@dsbennett Жыл бұрын
We were told many years ago that the coming persecutions will be worse than in the pioneer days. And here we are on the threshold of that prophecy.
@jeffs4483
@jeffs4483 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like something a Cultist would say.
@Unavesmas1990
@Unavesmas1990 Жыл бұрын
What about the persecution and threatenings and assassination attempts the Mormons dished out the the Missourians? Oh yeah, they leave that part out to their members. What about Joseph smith wanting to take over the United States-making it a monarchy with him as king? Oh yeah, once again…that makes him and the religion’s origins sound too crazy.
@DistrustHumanz
@DistrustHumanz Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't LDS slaughter over one hundred innocent travellers in one day during those 'pioneer days'? Such persecution!
@nancie7487
@nancie7487 Жыл бұрын
WE ARE ALL GODS CHILDREN!!
@limerind7493
@limerind7493 Жыл бұрын
Until judgment day
@nadsum131
@nadsum131 Жыл бұрын
@@limerind7493 best comment!! You couldn't have said it any better!!
@FindingBalance7
@FindingBalance7 Жыл бұрын
That’s not what Jesus said
@FindingBalance7
@FindingBalance7 Жыл бұрын
And your brother is Lucifer 🤦‍♀️ also False
@FindingBalance7
@FindingBalance7 Жыл бұрын
Sooo, If we are All Gods “ Children” Why does Jesus say that the Pharisee Father is the Devil and the father of lies?? Why does the Scriptures say We must be “ Adopted” into Gods family?
@krpz1
@krpz1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@lbs7774
@lbs7774 Жыл бұрын
Under attack? More like under scrutiny and exposure.
@richardholmes5676
@richardholmes5676 Жыл бұрын
?
@smileysun9212
@smileysun9212 Жыл бұрын
This is old news & “the Church” has been attacked for centuries It all started in Heaven & we have a choice who we will follow. Do you believe the Preacher on the street corner shouting or do you believe in Christ?
@1just4laughs
@1just4laughs Жыл бұрын
"The 2 most unbelievable religions...scientology and Mormons"
@katbutler1690
@katbutler1690 Жыл бұрын
The Book of Mormon contradicts itself all throughout it's pages. I do wonder how many Mormons have truly done a deep dive on their beliefs and it's origins.
@michelleellingson8130
@michelleellingson8130 Жыл бұрын
ive deep dived! i studied the book of mormon and prayed to know if it was real. The experience i had during that prayer was otherworldly and unforgettable. i will not take any of man’s word over my spiritual experiences ever.
@susanbernier9399
@susanbernier9399 Жыл бұрын
@@michelleellingson8130 the devil himself can act as an angel light .... be very careful my friend.
@edwardgabriel5281
@edwardgabriel5281 3 ай бұрын
@@michelleellingson8130 Back in 1953, at age 25, I had a confirmation of the truthfullness of The Gospel I wish everybody could have. In the years, since, my testimony has become unshakable. I'm now 95, more than ready to go.
@edwardgabriel5281
@edwardgabriel5281 3 ай бұрын
@@susanbernier9399 Did you know there is a way to discern between the two?
@celicalostandfound
@celicalostandfound Жыл бұрын
I left the Church over a year ago after 40+ years of faithful belief. I respect Patrick Mason a great deal and have taken his views on Church History seriously. I am thankful for him and his willingness to engage with people such as I on the tough subjects that surround the Church and it's history. To answer the question about why it is more acceptable to go after the Church than other sects of religion, I would argue it is simply because of truth and authority claims.
@MrNirom1
@MrNirom1 Жыл бұрын
@Celica: Lost and Found Why is it that people who leave the Church and speak about things like Church History never tell you what it is about Church History they don't like. I have found that when someone tells me something negative... I have had an answer for them, however they often tell me "Well now its too late. I already left." Oh well. We can mention truth and authority claims... but no one ever explains how it is applicable to my faith. I am somehow just suppose to accept what they say.
@celicalostandfound
@celicalostandfound Жыл бұрын
@@MrNirom1 I very surprised that no one has ever told you what "they didn't like" about Church history. For me that is not the total issue. The issue is Church lies and Obfuscation of it's history. I could spend hours upon hours explaining that to you but this is not the forum for that. You are sure welcome to send me an email if you are willing to listen.
@dtmelanson
@dtmelanson Жыл бұрын
Do other churches not make claims of truth and authority?
@celicalostandfound
@celicalostandfound Жыл бұрын
@@dtmelanson There is only one other religion that I know of that makes the same claim they have direct Priesthood Authority.
@kilitankeilts
@kilitankeilts Жыл бұрын
Bet I could guess what you speak of. Sounds like you studied yourself. Glad to hear it, truly. Too many people are easily brainwashed. Stay strong in the Lord, not man.
@rachelmartin3574
@rachelmartin3574 Жыл бұрын
Wow.....this is the 1st time I've seen any report or articlefrom media that wasn't attacking the LDS or "Utah Mormon Culture". Wow refreshing!!!
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 Жыл бұрын
Most Mormons find ways to live in bubbles where they know zero of their church's issues and therefore have no rebuttals or insight to the issues questioning people present. It is very culty. To want complete praise and zero rational thinking about a church's history is cultish. I'm sorry, but Rachel you need to practice critical thinking and informed consent.
@sadieesther9721
@sadieesther9721 Жыл бұрын
The church literally has a whole “I am a Mormon” campaign and the videos are still on the church channel
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 Жыл бұрын
Yes …they should stop giving Satan a leg up….🤣
@kentjarvis2292
@kentjarvis2292 Жыл бұрын
@@jberndt88 Show me your sources Scooter!
@tannerblackhurst1449
@tannerblackhurst1449 Жыл бұрын
Great piece. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints I think that was represented very well. I'm glad people have noticed.
@macysondheim
@macysondheim Жыл бұрын
Cult of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints*
@macysondheim
@macysondheim Жыл бұрын
Sorry, latter day cult members*
@gladegoodrich2297
@gladegoodrich2297 Жыл бұрын
Mormons are hard working honest people. World would be a better place if all lived that lifestyle. No I'm not a practicing member of the faith.
@ShineBrightly
@ShineBrightly Жыл бұрын
Ummm wrong answer
@The_worst_alchamists
@The_worst_alchamists Ай бұрын
@@ShineBrightly”um wrong answer” 🤓 I would like you to explain why you think we aren’t hard working, we live a lifestyle of freedom and peace, we don’t drink or do drugs, we respect our fellow men and we treat each other as god’s children, we have done nothing wrong
@nannwride
@nannwride Жыл бұрын
Maybe interview some people who have left the church and learn the facts of why. It might answer the anger towards the church. People don’t know what they don’t know. The members need to be sure what they believe in especially in these crazy days. Study the history and time lines of the happenings of the days the church was created. You might find some rabbit holes you can’t get out of.
@bodyer2120
@bodyer2120 Жыл бұрын
99% of those who leave the Church do so because of sin. The reality is that they fail to study, pray, keep the commandments and strive to improve. It doesn't work for them and they choose to blame the Church to save face. It's really that simple.
@erinrobinson6436
@erinrobinson6436 Жыл бұрын
I just couldn't stomach the bigotry against LGBTQ anymore and I had to leave.
@pattykake7195
@pattykake7195 Жыл бұрын
@@bodyer2120 What a crock…..they found out about all the lies they have been fed since Joe started his con job…just like Emma when she found out about his many flings on the side, including 14 year olds….🤢
@bodyer2120
@bodyer2120 Жыл бұрын
@@pattykake7195 You are a sensationalist. You know nothing about the Temple, nor about plural marriage and reasons for such. There are as many things written about Joseph Smith that are not true, as there are about him that are true. All of the 'anti-Mormon' stuff I have read and studied over the years, falls into one of 4 main categories: information that is true but not understood, things taken out of context, half truths and downright lies. The whole 'anti-Mormon' industry started before the Church was even established and still flourishes to this day, with whole sections of Christian bookshops providing a dedicated area for such 'scandal'. You wouldn't get a section for 'anti Protestant or Catholic' books in one of our bookshops. You probably think you are doing the Saviour's work, too.
@bodyer2120
@bodyer2120 Жыл бұрын
@@pattykake7195 it's obvious that you are brainwashed and will accept anything said against the Church. I have discovered so much said about the Church that was wrong and I no longer waste my time following up spurious claims. You people never stop and you do injury to those who are new to the Church. You will pay for it some day, however.
@Hbush1987
@Hbush1987 Жыл бұрын
Im an ex-mormon I left at age 23 and was since birth a mormon . I will say that it was so traumatic and I have unresolved trauma from being a part of that cult. I struggled for years after I left and still do. You can tell it’s a cult because of the way others react when you leave.. it’s the same as when you’re in… the bullying… the shaming… etc.
@Quagthistle
@Quagthistle Жыл бұрын
Really? Then, wouldn't you know it's "Mormon", as in the name of the prophet-historian who compiled the Book of Mormon, not "Morman"... which isn't even a valid word?
@Hbush1987
@Hbush1987 Жыл бұрын
@@Quagthistle you are NOT Going to attack me for what I’ve been through and my testimony of leaving. That’s what you’re NOT going to do. People like you is why people don’t leave.. the attacks. It doesn’t matter how I spell it. It doesn’t change what happened!
@Hbush1987
@Hbush1987 Жыл бұрын
@@Quagthistle i was born into it and left in my 20s. You are not going to attack victims . Not while I’m here.
@frutcakes6370
@frutcakes6370 Жыл бұрын
Glad you left :)
@gunnerlawts
@gunnerlawts Жыл бұрын
@@Hbush1987 If it doesn't matter how you spell it, then why did you change it? You would have had a better chance of remaining LDS had you possessed a modicum of intelligence. It's best you refrain from giving anybody advice.
@janicebehunin9522
@janicebehunin9522 Жыл бұрын
What has happened to tolerance and kindness of someone else's beliefs. It shouldn't matter to anyone else. And what if it happens to be true!!!
@DancingQueenie
@DancingQueenie Жыл бұрын
When I lived in SLC, I was at Albertsons and put coffee yogurt in my cart. A woman walked by and shook her finger at me and said SHAME ON YOU. And that ain’t all! Every kind of criticism and discrimination even in housing. Just try being a non-mo in SLC and talk to me about tolerance and kindness.
@smileysun9212
@smileysun9212 Жыл бұрын
You get that lot of that especially with their children going up to others saying that’s bad. What’s bad & sometimes I’m ashamed to call them my Brothers a Sisters. Is that they don’t teach their Children free agency & otheres can do what they want without being ridiculed. We are told to not judge but I’m being honest that some members in my ward are so judgmental & it’s sad. They even judge me telling others I’m this evil person & to stay away from me. I’ve made an honest mistake & paid my debts. We are to forgive others not hate them. The whole Church shouldn’t be condemned but the members who think they’re better than anyone else. It’s people like that that gives the Church a bad wrap.
@maryharoldsen2088
@maryharoldsen2088 Жыл бұрын
@@smileysun9212 Kids dont know any better. So they cant understand. They just know something is bad. But parents do need to teach others are different. Its easier to teach that in families outside of Utah. When you are in Utah its harder because many are the same but not everyone. Yeah some people judge too much. It happens
@frandanco6289
@frandanco6289 Жыл бұрын
@@DancingQueenie - Please keep in mind that this woman is only expressing Her sad opinion, and is certainly Not what was ever taught in any Scripture... People who do what she did are just wrong in this behavior... Sorry this had to happen to you...
@HaleStorm49
@HaleStorm49 Жыл бұрын
If Christ lived as a mortal today society would treat Him like a Mormon.
@lurenacornella6588
@lurenacornella6588 Жыл бұрын
Try watching Australia 60 minutes. THE FLEECING OF MORMONS.
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Жыл бұрын
Attacked or Exposed?
@gunnerlawts
@gunnerlawts Жыл бұрын
Attacked.
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Жыл бұрын
@@gunnerlawts As it should.
@gunnerlawts
@gunnerlawts Жыл бұрын
@@philbrooks5979 As the vipers did to Jesus.
@philbrooks5979
@philbrooks5979 Жыл бұрын
@@gunnerlawts Jesus of the BoM or Jesus of the Bible?
@gunnerlawts
@gunnerlawts Жыл бұрын
@@philbrooks5979 Same Jesus, but these vipers are in the bible.
@kylemoray6060
@kylemoray6060 Жыл бұрын
The culture isn't being attacked, the multi billion dollar organization is. Sure, those college kids shouldn't have said that. College kids say dumb things sometimes, especially at football games. But everything else was perfectly in line. The church has a lot of dirt on it and shedding some light on it isn't an attack. It's truth.
@motonut4172
@motonut4172 Жыл бұрын
Facts 💯💯💯
@wheels636
@wheels636 Жыл бұрын
So does the whole Christian church. Some of the things done throughout the last 2000 years is bad enough. The point is the church isn't the bad guy here it's people who have done bad things. For the most part the majority are just trying to live Christ like lives and serve the Lord Jesus Christ.
@RecoveringUGrad
@RecoveringUGrad Жыл бұрын
Actually much of the so called shedding light is done by people who don’t know what they are fully talking about.
@kristenmarie9248
@kristenmarie9248 Жыл бұрын
Every other religion does too.
@hellomrsjacobsen
@hellomrsjacobsen Жыл бұрын
They purposely get the "facts" wrong, casting a tainted light by design and taking things out of context to get better ratings due to the shock factor. It's not truth at all. It's historical fiction.
@MissPinkGirlOfSLC
@MissPinkGirlOfSLC Жыл бұрын
It’s expected!!! This means church is growing and thriving and people are starting to feel threatened! Just like they felt threatened back in the early days! However no reason. However this means we are getting closer the the saviors return !
@jeffs4483
@jeffs4483 Жыл бұрын
It's a cult. Wake up.
@ShruteFarms001
@ShruteFarms001 Жыл бұрын
It's not growing. Their wallets and assets might be growing and but people are waking up to the false religion. I hope you do to and find Jesus (not the Mormon Jesus)
@davidwallgren7575
@davidwallgren7575 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffs4483 Not a cult
@davidwallgren7575
@davidwallgren7575 Жыл бұрын
@@ShruteFarms001 There's only ONE Jesus
@jeffs4483
@jeffs4483 Жыл бұрын
@@davidwallgren7575 Yes it is. Look up BITE cult methodology. LDS is very high on that list.
@danielclingen34
@danielclingen34 10 ай бұрын
what is the difference between warren Jeffs, rules Jeffs, Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Wilford woodruf, snow, Joseph f smith?
@edwardgabriel5281
@edwardgabriel5281 3 ай бұрын
Warren Jeffs is the leader of an apostate LDS group which still practices polygamy. The others are previous presidents of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
@alananat6628
@alananat6628 Жыл бұрын
The LDS church/members EARN every stereotype given. Instead of claiming persecution, LISTEN to what has been going on--away from the pulpit.
@BlueSharkRides
@BlueSharkRides Жыл бұрын
5:13 Deflecting the legitimate worrying documents because AP still says Mormon? Should we negate all articles about a serious offense because of them "mislabeling" those who are LDS? Could have done better with that pivot.
@uthinkiamhot
@uthinkiamhot Жыл бұрын
Puffiness of this video is hilarious.
@toddhayes3506
@toddhayes3506 Жыл бұрын
It's All Corrupt It's All about the 💰
@Mega-Tim
@Mega-Tim Жыл бұрын
Yes, money to build temples.
@mikeb.7381
@mikeb.7381 Жыл бұрын
@@Mega-Tim For self-worship.
@Mega-Tim
@Mega-Tim Жыл бұрын
@@mikeb.7381Yes, members pay money so they can have temples to worship. Joseph Smith didn’t get rich off the church.
@mikeb.7381
@mikeb.7381 Жыл бұрын
@@Mega-Tim J. Smith definitely got rich after inventing Mormonism.
@mikeb.7381
@mikeb.7381 Жыл бұрын
@@Mega-Tim Temples full of masonic ceremonies. Evil.
@mikeb.7381
@mikeb.7381 Жыл бұрын
6:20 You can't work your way into Heaven. No Christian believes this.
@randimillington1422
@randimillington1422 Жыл бұрын
That’s not what he meant by ticking all the boxes. Works doesn’t produce faith but faith should produce works. As you walk in faith it should change you. So tired of other faiths misunderstanding this particular belief of our church.
@mikeb.7381
@mikeb.7381 Жыл бұрын
@@randimillington1422 We understanding quite well, that it is not Christian by any means.
@John-tu2wo
@John-tu2wo Жыл бұрын
Christ himself was crucified let people hate they do it in a state of ignorance. "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do" Luke 23:34
@estherlewis7458
@estherlewis7458 Жыл бұрын
It is blasphemy to say that Christ is a created being the brother of Satan. Why do you persecute Christ?
@mikeepperson4139
@mikeepperson4139 Жыл бұрын
Did not love this story! Interviewing a couple members of the church is what I expected the answers to be. It would have been great to hear from a member of the first presidency, apostle, GA, or area authority with their thoughts. This story just scratched the surface and didn’t enlighten what the true issues are that non believers or non members think of the church. Why not question those that aren’t “Mormons” about their thoughts of the church and why people say the things they do about the church? Very uninformative story!
@marthamazariegos6790
@marthamazariegos6790 Жыл бұрын
They will always judge and criticize the Mormon religion I was raised in Salt Lake City Utah born in Mexico now leaving here in Houston Tx, but here they do not have any integrety they don't like Normans at all a lot members of ours church as gone through precaution to many evildoers which I had ever experienced that in my life at all Untill my family and I moved here to Huston Tx and hoping that someday we will.move back to Salt Lake City I will keep on praying Our Savior & King Jesus Christ Of Nazareth will help us to make this happened and no matter this wicked people will always be there pretty sure they have moved to Utah from many different places of the USA but we shall stand in "Faith" and keep trusting in Our Savior Jesus Christ Of Nazareth That he will protect us all from this things..My prayers are with you all .🙏💡😇👍
@janjep88869
@janjep88869 Жыл бұрын
The freemasons have lied to & deceived all of you simple minded folks. The freemasons founded the mormon church. Do your painstaking research on freemasons. They're a secret society & evil cult! mormons are so dang gullible!
@MimicoBungalow
@MimicoBungalow Жыл бұрын
Well said! But you really need spellcheck on your messages!
@danb715
@danb715 Жыл бұрын
Forget the fake media, lets attack the LDS. We are proud of being LDS. If you don't like, leave us alone.
@lindapabst3421
@lindapabst3421 Жыл бұрын
Like the way mormons leave everyone else alone? *ahem* missionaries
@christianjohnson5379
@christianjohnson5379 Жыл бұрын
@@lindapabst3421 our missionaries usually don't harass people and condemn them. They lovingly offer to teach you about Jesus Christ and how you can be saved if you have faith in him and keep his commandments. If anyone doesn't want to hear us, we simply move on to someone else who will. If you're basing your opinion off of one bad experience, you're being close-minded.
@lindapabst3421
@lindapabst3421 Жыл бұрын
@@christianjohnson5379 Like they way they have aggressively and repeatededly rung my doorbell at 9 PM, then loudly knocking when I don't answer? Like that? I almost called the cops.
@johnb5254
@johnb5254 Жыл бұрын
Zero sympathy for cults who abuse and spread lies.
@beestoe993
@beestoe993 Жыл бұрын
I was born, raised, blessed and Baptized LDS. I still love the church and its members, particularly my immediate family. But here is the thing, I have been doing a lot of soul searching and a lot of research. And it is my belief that a lot of the animosity toward the LDS church, specifically from other churches, is actually an act of retaliation. Because it is in fact the LDS church that accused all of them of belonging to "bad churches" in the first place, and the LDS members hold to that accusation as truth. Not a very Christ like disposition, from either side of the coin. Pride is of the devil.
@tifthetif6567
@tifthetif6567 Жыл бұрын
Bad churches? Read the articles of faith
@sadiehatch9465
@sadiehatch9465 Жыл бұрын
@bees - this view may be too narrow. The church is quite liberal at working with Jews, Muslims, Catholics... I would estimate more than any other church organizationn. I understand that the claims to a 'true church' can bring ire from all those outside that claimed church, but despite that I don't see the arrogance that others claim exists.
@lw1959
@lw1959 Жыл бұрын
Lifelong member here… never heard other churches called “bad”. I’ve always been taught to respect them.
@beestoe993
@beestoe993 Жыл бұрын
@@lw1959 Have you read "The Great Apostasy"? Mr. Talmage makes the LDS disposition pretty clear regarding other churches.
@beestoe993
@beestoe993 Жыл бұрын
@@sadiehatch9465 Yes, there has been a coming together that is really beautiful. I know it will continue too. But frankly I have learned that in many ways "My" views about things regarding the Bible have been wrong, and members of other churches have shown me true things. On that I can only speak for myself.
@michaeldarnell3131
@michaeldarnell3131 Жыл бұрын
The Angel Moroni? The golden plates or golden Bible called by some is what Joseph Smith copied the Book of Mormon from. Polygamy was practiced and lauded as righteous and holy. Polygamy is still practiced by the fundamentalist. THIS WAS NOT IMAGINED OR IMAGINARY. Brigham would be ashamed.
@schweizer1940
@schweizer1940 Жыл бұрын
So this is what we expect from the world which includes the apostates.
@KB-hx3px
@KB-hx3px Жыл бұрын
No thanks. The families, the kids, the schools are exclusionary to outsiders. If you don’t believe like they do, they will let you know.
@christianjohnson5379
@christianjohnson5379 Жыл бұрын
Not true at all....
@KB-hx3px
@KB-hx3px Жыл бұрын
@@christianjohnson5379 Of course it is. Don’t think so? Move to Gilbert, AZ. It’s worse in St. George.
@estherlewis7458
@estherlewis7458 Жыл бұрын
@@christianjohnson5379 The Book of Mormon says that I attend the church of the devil. I Nephi 14:10, 17
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