Is Medium Format Overrated? | Fujifilm GFX vs Sony A1 vs Leica SL2

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@_parkphoto 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like in the end, you as the photographer have to make the decision on what makes you feel amazing to shoot with and what gets the results that you love. Whether that means you believe that medium format is best, that full frame is best, or APS-C is best; it’s up to the photographer to decide what their own parameters are and what they wanna work with. Since we’ve all seen unbelievable results with every one of the formats (even the tiny phone sensors, yes!)

@thephenom6327 2 жыл бұрын

For such photos as in the video, even a micro 4/3 will be enough, medium format is about dynamic range, detail and completely unhurried shooting, which is important for such genres as landscape, interior, object photography and so on, in these cases, the difference with full frame will be more than obvious.

@JoerivanderKloet Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@carlopapagno7298 Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@carbon_wavelight 10 ай бұрын

Exactly

@andysturrr 8 ай бұрын

Exactly

@MikeLikesChannel 7 ай бұрын

There's no rules. The 50Sii is now $2k used with the 35-70 kit. I shoot it like I shot my GA645, snapshot style. I don't touch the raw files. It's very freeing.

@97purna 2 жыл бұрын

As great as it was to see the comparisons, it was more amazing to see so many of your photos on a video like this! They look so good Benj and hope you keep making some insane memories!

@jklphoto 2 жыл бұрын

Good discussion Benj. Yes, during the years proceeding 2000, medium format film was the professional choice. That was when our pro labs printed optically. The diminutive 35mm film frame was pretty solid up to a 5x7 print for Portra 400. After that, there was a noticeable drop in color saturation and sharpness. We used medium format film so that it could be manually retouched and yield a far better print. Side Bar- I've always found it interesting that the term "APS-C" was adopted (or foist upon us) instead of calling it what it truly is...Half-Frame. Your sensor size illustration, like all others, shows the APS-C sensor in the same orientation as its FF kin. When in reality, if you rotate it 90°, you'll see TWO half-frames can fit within the 24x36 boundary!

@3newyorkbagels 7 ай бұрын

AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

@annenominous7220 2 жыл бұрын

Been a pro wedding photographer since 1989, these images just confirm that I must be going blind! I couldn't tell one from the other, at least not at the speed you played them. I will put that down to the relatively low resolution of the images as presented at 4k. But I suspect its just me! I use Leica because I can. I always convinced myself that I could pick out a Leica photo, because of the 3D pop. But other lens makers are getting so good that the Lecia advantage, at low resolutions certainly, has been seriously reduced. I think for pixel peeping Leica still wins, I just love the character of their lenses. But, wow, at the speed and resolution presented, hardly makes a difference. I would NOT be able to pick out the Leica shots. edited to add this line, from the raw files I have seen coming from the M11, HOLY COW... amazing tool.

@nelsonclub7722 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I went down the 'must have' rabbit hole for weddings - you are 1 year behind me started in '88 1st wedding and never looked back - love what I do. Leica is where it's at - can you see a difference between my last camera the formidable Hasselblad H6D100c - an almost 645 digital Mf camera and my current Leica S3 and complimentary S3 SL2 and Q2? Yes of course - can my clients? Of course not. The Leica integrates seamlessly on set with proper durability, weather sealing and is smaller and more reliable (H6 was a nightmare)? There is cross pollination of sensors, lenses and batteries - smaller lighter and much much quicker - the results are not in pixels but in the shot - Also I just prefer the slightly quirky feel of a Leica image compared to the 'real world' colours of a Hass - people don't want that - they want to see themselves differently - Leica gives you that but no-one can explain why. Then there's flash. SL2 aside, the Fuji GFX flash syncs at 125x. I tried the 50s and the 100 and brilliant imagery but far too fiddly and the lens choices are a bit of a shot in the dark - the zooms are horrid and suffer from droop when pointing downward. The Leica S3 and Q2 use proper leaf shutters like the Hasselblad but unlike the Hasselblad; Leica have provided a dedicated OFC system which works on all of its cameras. I may well have gone down the Leica rabbit hole but for me it all just works as it is supposed to. Leica M11? not for me but I respect what it does.

@c141charlie 2 жыл бұрын

The winner of this comparison is Benj! You just showed us that you can use any camera to create beautiful, memorable photos.

@gregpantelides1355 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Ben. As a 645 shooter myself, I really appreciate all you time and effort in this channel. A piece of wisdom, I’ve picked up when comparing formats and DOF is this: “Regardless of format, a lens will always retain the DOF characteristics of its focal length”. I think that’s why I’ve become so enamored with shooting landscape with a 75mm lens on my Bronica ETRSi. I get a nice broad fov (46mm equivalent) but with the background compression and DOF characteristics of the 75mm focal length.

@MrMacroJesseSky 2 жыл бұрын

I come from motion picture first, and stills second. This debate often comes up with professional cinema cameras vs prosumer cameras like blackmagic. I’ve found the differences are there but small, however on average the high end professional tool is almost always in the hands of a more skilled operator which makes the most difference. While the prosumer options can be in the hands of pros but also people learning. The same can apply to stills cameras. You can have a family buy a nice high end a7riv to take vacation photos, but they probably won’t buy a big GFX or hasselblad. The medium format sensors are almost exclusively in the hands of photographers with some decent experience. That being said, I own a GFX, and a Red DSMC2. Do I think the differences are there from prosumer, yes. Are they minute when used side by side under the same lighting and technique, yes.

@zguy95135 2 жыл бұрын

The “MF look” is getting a wide/normal field of view with a portrait length lens. Obviously the gfx is pretty small compared to film but its a nice tool to have. Most of all that doesn’t matter though when we’re looking at such a small image online or in a video.

@dalkapur 2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I feel digital medium format doesn't really offer any significant improvement in output over and above FF or even APS-C. I don't see that 'medium format look' that I get with my Pentax 6x7. HOWEVER, and I own the GFX 100S, the ancillary benefits are totally worth it for me, as my preference is for landscapes. A). The dynamic range is astonishing. You can make severe alterations in post with little noise impact. B) You can make a 100% crop and still get a usable 26mp file. It turns my 100-200mm lens into a 400mm lens where necessary. C). Despite the PASM mode dial, you still get the simplicity of the Fuji old school form factor. Now that I have invested in the system, I do shoot portraits with it, but I am not sure I would invest if I only shot portraits. My XT3 + 56mm f/1.2 competes well against the GFX + 110mm.

@burritobrosvideos8060 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I love the gfx100s but the images aren't as improved from my full frame gear as I expected them to be.

@shade599 2 жыл бұрын

don't compare apsc to medium format 😅

@shade599 2 жыл бұрын

@@burritobrosvideos8060 so it's not the camera...its your skill need to upgrade.

@federicolearco3867 2 жыл бұрын

No improvement passing from apsc to super full frame. I hope photography is just an expensive hobby for you...

@dalkapur 2 жыл бұрын

@@federicolearco3867 I should have made my self clearer. I was agreeing that it was difficult to see the benefits on phones, tablets and such like, which is how many people consume images nowadays. I don't do mega large prints, so the ancillary benefits are the bigger benefits (for me).

@epstar83 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely difficult see the differences on YT. I feel one sees the way different formats render when looking at physical prints. Last year at a pop up we had the same print from 4x5 scanned and printed to inkjet as well as an almost identically sized print from the darkroom. They both looked great but when asking people what they preferred they tended to pickup the darkroom print. There’s a tactile experience to physical images that can’t be well articulated online. That being said even APS-C produces marvellous prints. I have a 60x80 cm print from an Fujifilm XE3 sitting on my study wall that looks superb to me. Might be a cool idea to have a video where you present a close to identically printed image from various formats to people and film their responses?

@Eliehbk 2 жыл бұрын

Benj, even an iPhone 6 would sing in your hands. This video is more of a testament to the person using the gear than the gear itself..

@Kusanosuke1 2 жыл бұрын

Really interesting video and thanks for making it!! But one request- can you please avoid bright flashing lights in future videos? The flashing in the early part of the video distracted from your preset pitch and the photos you were showing. Those color flashes could trigger a migraine or worse for some viewers. Thanks!

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good, I’ll try to dial it back in

@stephenmccarthy1391 Жыл бұрын

You have made some truly beautiful photos. ❤

@losmalqueridos2009 2 жыл бұрын

Ben, Thank you so much for this. I really think the crop gives it the look. With the exception of the Pentax 6X7 film camera. That 105 lens gives an awesome look that I haven't seen on any digital cameras. I think that look maybe done digitally through the Brenizer method though. I would love you to do a video. Brenizer vs. Medium format 🤔

@georgemarvin3093 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this comparison, it is a topic that I also curious about. I think the biggest difference between each (sensor) size is the image compression, that also if you can spot the difference in a sight, not comparing one to another precisely. With DoF, i think it's comparable when smaller sensor camera paired with a bright lens. With MP count, I think it's only beneficial for printing in a very huge medium, isn't it?

@gabesgodinez2233 2 жыл бұрын

Hey brother! Love your videos! They tipped the scale in getting a Leica and I’m stoked on it I got the same setup you used to have the m240 and the 50 summilux which takes some dreams black and white photos but I had a question how did you get rid of the green tint that some of the dngs come out with straight out of camera

@junichinomura4810 2 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison video of images from every format film or digital thanks to this. 📸👍

@theonlinething1039 2 жыл бұрын

I‘m using both, a Hasselblad H2D-39, a 5D Classic and a 5D mk2, in my opinion there is a difference, but digital full frame cameras are more than capable for my kinda style. Btw. I‘m using an ART 24 1.4 and a 50 0.95 on my full frame cameras for portraits and landscape, and they give me results very close to what I get with my Hasselblad and a 2.8 lens, the 0.95‘s bokeh and out of focus area looks even better and there‘s more 3d pop or whatever you wanna call it

@ItsCjhoneycomb Жыл бұрын

Personally.. I found the GFX images the best. They just had a certain feel to them which reminded me of "ironically" my old Minolta vintage glass which I absolutely loved but with Pentax color rendition, which I find fantastic... So even though, the Leica glass and the Sony glass was probably sharper. I prefer the GFX look with the Mitakon glass in this comparison. Granted... if I'm shooting anything moving, at all, any movement whatsover... I'm picking up the A1.

@Sanjmaghera 11 ай бұрын

What impressed me wasn’t my jump from Leica full frame to the GFX 50, but the jump from the old style 50mp mf sensor to the 100mp one in the GFX100s… those images are just beautiful, something about the way the shades, graduations, colours that makes everything else looks quite lame. Highly recommended. That said it’s no good for taking pics of a group of family at close distance in a small room as the depth of field is so shallow so you end up shooting at f11 and jacking up the iso to 12800…still clean enough results but quite a limiting exposure envelope compared to a smaller formal camera.

@TheRg191 Жыл бұрын

I used to shoot canon religiously ending my run with the 5Ds I transitioned from that to a GFX 50s (now a GFX 100) when canon mirrorless was on the cards, if I was planning to switch to a new lens lineup I may as well give another eco system a chance. The GFX as a working tool is the best camera I’ve used to date. I generally shoot fashion, product and Ad campaigns. Colour accuracy, colour rendition and dynamic range matter above all else. I shoot tethered to capture one for 80 percent of my work. The colour and tonality straight out of camera that in turn leads to a pretty straightforward colour correction process is perfection. Canon was a nightmare. Way too magenta, greens looked brown as did yellows. Plus the old L lenses were so soft around the edges compared to Fuji’s GF lenses. Back focussing on all my canon DSLR’s was always an issue. Honestly as a work tool I wouldn’t go back.

@benjhaisch Жыл бұрын

100% on this. The depth of the GFX files really is fantastic

@ginoandereggen3031 2 жыл бұрын

I might see the difference if i watched in on the computer but to be honest, aside of the iphone one due to color rendition i had nonidea whatsoever, all i can say is that you are a fantastic photographer with great editing skills cause i got more distracted by the good looks than really being able to tell these apart. Frankly, what matters again how the photographic eye matters more than the gear!

@jimb2500 2 жыл бұрын

Omg you just showed you can take a good photo with any camera, because you are a skilled photographer. I would sell that junk and just stick with your Leica and Leica glass after shooting for 40+ years….. nothing comes close to it and their new Apo SL lenses are better than the Hasselblad xcd lenses!

@Narsuitus 9 күн бұрын

I used medium format for 15 years. I did not start using 35mm until I started working professionally for a newspaper. The 35mm was great for photojournalism, documentary, street, sports, and action events. The medium format was great for portraits, landscapes, group shots, weddings, and other social events. I shot 6x6, 6x7, and 6x9cm medium format images. I never used 4.5x6cm (645) medium format cameras because I could easily crop a 645 image from the medium format cameras I was using. In the digital era, I have used micro 4/3, APS-C, and full-frame cameras. I have been satisfied with the images I have been able to obtain from these cameras. In my opinion, the current medium format digital cameras are over-priced and under-sized. I have been waiting for someone to produce a true 6x7cm medium format digital camera for a reasonable price.

@robertross8565 2 жыл бұрын

I think too many people are obsessed with specifications and equipment. If you sat a concert pianist down and had them play the piano that was destined for the landfill, they would make it sound amazing. If you sat down a beginner player in front of the best piano in the world, they would still sound like a beginner. Likewise with photography. Too much obsession about equipment and not enough about figuring out what makes a great picture. Some of the best street photographers make great shots using average equipment and some shots are even blurry. The photographer's vision is the most important element in taking a great photo. Period.

@joetrent4753 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I feel, as I sat back and didn't scrutinise the photos, they all were wonderful images, obviously taken by a great photographer. The funny thing is, most non-photographers who will view the photographs won't know the difference anyway. Make photographs about the subject(s) and composition, not the quality of equipment used. Benj also shows us he is a master of manual focus lenses. I own a Voigtlander 40mm f1.2 E and I use zone and hyperfocal focusing but really need to improve my manual focusing for shallower dof (I'm talking at f2.8).

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

100%

@thomastuorto9929 2 жыл бұрын

Nice photos. The night show with the 907 was me fav!

@perfectly_boring 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice timing, I am trying to decide between the M11, SL2 and GFX100S. Thanks for doing this, although it just confirms that I should stick to film haha

@patrickjclarke 2 жыл бұрын

between all those I would choose the one that is most comfortable and fits your shooting style. With the right lens and f/stop your "look" will be roughly the same. For me it was an M as I love focusing with a rangefinder, love the small body and simple shooting experience for capturing my "ranch life" and some small town reportage/street. You really can't go wrong with any of those cameras!

@plyazcady 2 жыл бұрын

funny because im debating the same 3 cameras, one week i want the gfx, then sometimes the m11 but hard to justify almost 10k for 35mm digital and then sometimes i want the sl2

@calebe16 Жыл бұрын

I wasn't really looking for what is what, but trying to find what I liked the most. And I ended up choosing the the gfx consistently, followed by the Sony (except on the first photo, where I liked the Leica more). But I can't really put a finger on it. It felt sharper and more contrasty to me. I wonder if it isn't because of the lens choice. The SL lenses seems to be quite superb and they weren't tested here.

@JasondePlater 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Benj, are you making a video about using the M Summilux on the SL2?

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Not that combo specifically

@SpruceUp612 8 ай бұрын

Even scrolling through my own photos I can’t tell which was iPhone, Android, micro four thirds, full frame, medium format, 35mm, 1” point and shoot, etc. I’ve used almost everything, and sometimes I check the metadata and realize I was way off guessing my own camera even though I was there.

@fededuran2523 2 жыл бұрын

Good music, Benj.

@lrb05131963 Жыл бұрын

Glad to own my Q2M which is very close to medium format but so small I can fit it in my palm

@jklphoto 2 жыл бұрын

This is an interesting question Benj, does sensor size matter relative to resolution? Comparing 50MP cameras with different size sensors doesn't seem to yield drastically different results in this scenario. Can't say I'm surprised. One can parse specs on dynamic range, but when DXO rates the Hasselblad X1Dii and Nikon D850 both a score of 100, you should prolly choose the Nikon as it has a far more developed system. Now, the SL2, with IBIS and those amazing SL lenses are another thing all together!

@fredjuengling631 2 жыл бұрын

FYI, DXO ranked the Hasselblad, with a score of 102, above the D850 with a score of 100. Also you may be interested in a video by mathphotographer who compared the Hasselblad against the Leica SL2. Again, the medium format Hasselblad sensor was clearly superior Leica's full frame.

@ShutterKnack Жыл бұрын

I compared 24mp APS-c vs 24mp full frame and even though the full frame camera had a cheap lens on, it still resolved more detail. Sensor size matters.

@norwegianoutdoors4437 Жыл бұрын

That image from around 06:42 is one of the best portraits I've ever seen!

@jdpst20 Жыл бұрын

I’m really pondering this myself. I don’t shoot much professionally anymore but I’m such a huge tech hobbits. I love good IQ and ability to take on some clients when my time permits. I’ve seen both your X1D and GFX50s videos and really wanted want a X1D but I’m actually leaning towards replacing my XT3 with an R5. If I get the X1D I’d try keeping the Fuji but I can offload it and get sort of best of both worlds. R5 higher resolution full frame with amazing AF and video quality at the expense of 50mp medium format. I have a 500cm if I want film MF. The X1D is amazing but it’s so niche. The AF isn’t the best and it’s sort of a digital representation of my 500cm. I also have a newborn well 4mo year old and I want something that can capture her movement and video as she grows. I know the 50s or X1D will fall short and most images will end up blurry and I’d be frustrated. EDIT: also you essentially broke the internet with this video. You honestly can’t even tell because every photo you show is all amazing. I think 99% of people will never be able to tell what “look” will it will be. A good photo is a good photo is a good photo.

@romankampa6212 2 жыл бұрын

All images are great! Thanks for sharing… would you mind to tell me the lens of the x-e4 shoots (stunning)?! 🤗

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

It’s actually this 35/0.95 from 7Artisans! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eK-UpM2Vq7HVk3k.html

@ChristopherGoetting 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, in the first "guess the format" section I got nearly every one wrong, but for the camera guessing part I got them exactly right. I don't know what that says about me - though I really don't like the Leica shots in general. The GFX shots all look best to my eye, but its something subtle with the colors rather than any particular detail or DoF as the Sony is similar in those respects. Sony's colors just look too neutral I guess, even if they are likely more accurate.

@Fleet42 2 жыл бұрын

Just about to grab the M10R and the 35 Lux to go with my R5 and we will see if I keep the SL2S? Loved this though

@Fleet42 Жыл бұрын

Did you keep the Sl2s? Im thinking about a move as I too have the R5

@benjhaisch Жыл бұрын

Ah sorry, I only had it on loan.

@moky99 Жыл бұрын

It's nearly impossible to see difference on a screen. I think the differences would shine on large prints (A0 / A2 / A3).

@WilsonGomez 2 жыл бұрын

I can tell by the Sony 50mm 1.2 GM that lens blur the background and then by the Fuji color on GFX there alot more contrast.

@eggs-benny Жыл бұрын

Awesome photos!

@mrmotomoto Жыл бұрын

1:56 bro… 😂 these backgrounds need to chill. Edit to add: Amazing photos, my guy! I love the colors you aim for. Although I don’t have a medium format camera, I look at quite a bit of it and can say I was pretty successful at picking them out from the 135. I see lots of 50mm or equivalent but was wondering what focal length the Hassy used? Really liked those photos.

@calokid 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what a video like this regarding 16-bit vs 14-bit color would turn up. If it's ever discussed, it's also debunked, but I thought that may be the difference with medium format. Note: This excludes all the Fujifilm cameras with the exception of the GFX100 in 16-bit color mode.

@KingGameReview Жыл бұрын

I think to be more scientific, the same lens should be used on all 3 formats and try to keep the framing the same. I should try that out, I have an XT-3, an old Canon 6D, and my GFX 50R and shoot only old, adapted lenses. (other than my GF 50mm f/3.5 I took with me on vacation)

@NaviUpgrade Жыл бұрын

It ain't overrated. Bought my GFX100 for a steep used discount over summer and it's literally so much better in terms of color because of the bit depth when compared to my A7IV, III, & Fuji X100V

@noeggi 2 жыл бұрын

6:39 blew my mind 🤭

@MikeKleinsteuber Жыл бұрын

Sony images are generally the most lifeless and clinical but there's no doubt at all the GFX stands out as far as micro contrast is concerned...(though I love the Summilux look too)

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Before the pixel peepers jump in and talk about fine detail, that’s a different discussion but one I’m willing to have in a different video with really high end optics. This is more about that shallow DOF look that many wedding photographers are after :) Here is a link to the “sponsored” presets. benjhais.ch/cascade02

@filibertkraxner305 2 жыл бұрын

Ok, I'll swallow that remark then, lol. I do feel the glass is really important in the amount (and type) of falloff you get. F.i. the look I get with my GFX + 110 is pretty different from my Leica M262 + 90. Both are really nice though. Maybe a comparison in the future with very good short tele lenses would be interesting?

@boxoweasels 2 жыл бұрын

I would really like to see an medium format v full frame/35mm comparison that completely eliminates the DOF factor by stopping both of them way the hell down so everything is in focus front to back. Because I feel like 99.9% of what people think is the MF look is down to shallow DOF and/or the transition rendering of specific lenses. Eliminate that and maybe what's left is the real "medium format look"? I don't know.

@jasonblake5576 2 жыл бұрын

Have to say I was pretty impressed with the 35mm Leica film shots!!

@cannabischan 2 жыл бұрын

It’s all about bigger format has more 3D pop, on focus subject feels like jumping out from the photo. For me sensor or film are just like eyes, open bigger always capture more lighting, more dynamic, more colours. That’s why small sensor’s photo looks more flat, not much pop out.

@obscur_yoann 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting video, thanks. I tried guessing from feeling and, to my big surprise, I got mostly right on the first batch, and totally right for the digital ones... I never shoot medium format at all (film or digital). But read a lot, and watch a lot about it. But now, I think it makes sense as a second system for me maybe... 😉

@oscarshen6855 2 жыл бұрын

For current technology, yes, it's overrated. The drawbacks of medium format (price, speed, autofoucs, size and weight) just can't validate the slightlest image quality gain. But things can change, we use to think full frame is "not worth it" over APS-C, look at where we are now.

@phillipenriquez 2 жыл бұрын

what lens were you using with the xe4?

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

amzn.to/3sL8dLY 🙌🏼

@OfAngeline 2 жыл бұрын

Would you go Sony a7riv with 50mm GM or GFX 50sii with 80mm 1.7? For portraits.

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Just portraits? Probably GFX? But either would be amazing

@OfAngeline 2 жыл бұрын

@@benjhaisch I just worry if I shoot families with kids or pets.. of course I’ll ask them to pose but will it keep up with slight movement?

@projectssap1 Жыл бұрын

The contrast and color pop on the GFX is wildly different compared to all 35mm sensors.

@Channel_Yo 3 ай бұрын

Can hardly tell when everything is cropped down for web use. The difference is when you make large prints.

@ivanlupi5123 2 жыл бұрын

Great hard work but I would love to see skin transitions. That’s what I think would tell the difference from FF to MF

@losmalqueridos2009 2 жыл бұрын

Ben, Next video idea Brenizer method vs. Medium format.

@kstrohmeier 2 жыл бұрын

The use case drives the conclusion. Medium format is "overrated" for sports or action wildlife. Probably not for portraiture or landscape.

@patrickjclarke 2 жыл бұрын

Get that same relative aperture between m43-GFX sensor sizes and you'll get the same look. Now, the interesting thing in sensor size and where I think 645 film and bigger still have an advantage is tonal range...no, not dynamic range, but tonal range. I don't think the slight increase in sensor size of the GFX is an distinct advantage in tonal range...I think we need a 645 size to see any benefit there. Or...and hear me out, a Foveon sensor, BECAUSE it has a better tonal range than Bayer sensors, and just might have the same tonal range as 645. It's why I still have my DP2 Merrill and bought the sd quattro...there is just something about the Foveon tonal range that makes it worth shooting. Do any wedding photogs carry around an sd quattro for portraits that you know of, Benj? Put the sigma art lens 50mm f/1.4 on the sd Quattro and it would do an amazing job in portraits for weddings, especially in BW

@patrickjclarke Жыл бұрын

@@f8haus yeah, I get that...SPP isn't "production" friendly at all.

@SpruceUp612 8 ай бұрын

Foveon sensors are amazing. Wish more people talked about them, too bad they didn’t take off. Loved my Quattro.

@ZombieRofl 2 жыл бұрын

4:06 Ouch you've got me there lol!

@keybladesss 2 жыл бұрын

yeah compared to FILM the difference is mainly just that I can see more detail in my eyes but as for the look of medium format its just not there it just looks like a high res photo which isn't a bad thing at all its just i wish they can find a way to get that pop effect than you can get on a medium format negative

@wbrtill291 2 жыл бұрын

nice video but please stop using the film burn effect so excessively... it's really hard to watch especially in dark environments because it's so flashy :/

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Noted 🤙🏼

@morgankarno7335 2 жыл бұрын

16 bit color is real and what I get from GFX 100 may not be noticeable on YT but I get a feeling and emotional response And depth that I do not get from my nikons A realism that I so not see except for maybe my m240 but honestly comparing this on you tube is misleading to all the people that may want to dabble I love the the gfx100 and 16 bit it is what I love about the medium format. If your talking depth of field there is something special I get from 80mm 1.7 that I have not seen before. Though I will add I love all formats

@felixbrandau4751 4 ай бұрын

cool idea for a video

@DannyChau7 2 жыл бұрын

Yes agree, it's hard to differentiate the sensor with most subjects, but when it comes to fine art capture/reproduction, the 35mm don't have the dynamic range nor sharpness (even with the best of lenses used) because the slightly larger GFX sensor do have an advantage over the 35mm sensor when it come to pure raw sensor/resolution, the 35mm just won't cut it.

@patrickjclarke 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, the GFX has 10.8 stops of dynamic range, and the A1 has 14.5...I think you might mean "tonal range" but in reality the GFX sensor isn't THAT much bigger to give a better tonal range...slightly better, yes, but then again connect that with lower dynamic range and they probably equal out in "look".

@DannyChau7 2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickjclarke Not only in tonal range but also in overall sharpness, I can't get the same overall quality/sharpness out of either the Sony sensor or the 47mp Lumix S1R sensors and I'm using the best optics there is. I have test pixelshift on all three cameras, the larger sensor on the GFX beats both full frame sensors on all counts, period.

@marleenvandam6931 2 жыл бұрын

It is not overrated!

@rossawilson01 2 жыл бұрын

I think this nicely proves that you should shoot what you can afford and what you enjoy shooting, everything else is either marketing or mysticism.

@valenciosmall1683 Жыл бұрын

you really want us to guess the format an image from the internet KZfaq screen , the Pentax 67 is my favorite camera of all times but right know its a glorified paper work in my office, my camera of choice for 80% of my work is my 100S not because of what anyone says but more for what it does for me

@canopusedius9115 Жыл бұрын

my friend :) 1. Medium format - Hasselblad is H / 6X6 cm 2. The matters format matters. 3. A Leica or Cooke lens has no quality. They give a great picture :))) like Haselbad H 6X6 ....

@sidehustlers336 Жыл бұрын

Full Frame for me. Mostly due to the lens and accessories support. It’s like the Barbie of cameras

@jonathanrascol 2 жыл бұрын

Bravo! Beautiful! Homages! ⚡⚡⚡ JAR

@sebastiang7183 Жыл бұрын

You will never be able to cheat physics. If you are controlling the light or are waiting for the best light, then use whatever system you like as there will be minor differences. However, when the shadows start getting darker and the highlights get brighter bigger will always be better. MF > FF > APS-C. You will see this in terms of the ability to hold color and noise in the dark areas when you push the file. MF is good to about 4500-5000 ISO. FF is good to about 3500-4000 ISO (3000 for older high MP FF sensors). APS-C is good to about 1500-2000 ISO. Even today the old 51MP GFX sensor which is over 10 years old now will beat any modern FF when ISO's rise and you have to push dark areas. This may change after another half decade or decade, but at that point it will be a massive amount of time technology has had to improve. Also, the higher resolution on the smaller the sensor the better the lens has to be corrected. 80-90 lp/mm is not difficult today. Having to do 150 lp/mm now becomes much more challenging especially at wider apertures. Know the advantage and disadvantages. Know your needs. Make your choice and pay your money.

@christianglasner8295 2 жыл бұрын

sorry just wrong because there is no medium format look. If you consider the crop factor with an APS C sensor and the focal length, there is no difference in the look no matter which sensor

@cjmadridtv4289 2 жыл бұрын

Brenizer method : am i joke to you?

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

😂

@Davidcallard 2 жыл бұрын

Why no 4:3 format? Olympus, Panasonic, Lumix?

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@Davidcallard 2 жыл бұрын

I was just wondering why you didn't mention the 4:3 format as pioneered by.Olýmus and fast becoming ubiquitous. It has become my preferred format for a variety of reasons, weight being one. I was just a little surprised not to see a 4:3 camera in your table line-up.

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Oh interesting. I’m not camera store and this video was just off the cuff and not a definitive end all be all sort of statement piece.

@gui4j 2 жыл бұрын

Fuji 50mb down to 3200 in the Fuji store in london yesterday , 1000 less than a canon r5 can be … seems like choice to me… just saying… nice of Fuji to something different , it’s just a slightly bigger sensor and the same mega pixels .. it’s not even 645 for Christ sake, nothing really for people to loose their minds over …

@tonyhayes9827 2 жыл бұрын

I think the whole point is not to resize. Mr Brenizer sums up the medium format look perfectly in his method for trying to reproduce it. Stand in the same place with a 35mm film camera and medium format one. Stand a model in the same place in front of the camera. Put an actual 50mm lens on both at the same f stop so the bokeh is the same. The whole point of medium format is you fit more of the surrounding environment in around the model. Mr Brenizer imitates this by taking multiple images around the model and stitching them together.

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Haha for sure, I’ve known Ryan Brenizer for YEARS. I remember when he first came up with that concept. One of the very first videos on my channel was explaining the “Brenizer method”

@tonyhayes9827 2 жыл бұрын

@@benjhaisch Yes when I first saw it I just said Wow! Clever boy!

@Life_Weekend Жыл бұрын

The light pattern in the background gives me a headache.

@adamrzetelski6014 8 ай бұрын

Such a test on YT won't do much. Only as if to see the full images on a 65 inch 8K TV, it would somehow bring the view closer to that in print. Small screens are too small to see the differences. A 65 inch 8K TV is the minimum to view photos from such cameras, especially GFX, and be able to enjoy the eye in the process. Such comparisons on YT will never make sense and will not allow to show 100% what the difference is. In the same way, there is a reason there are no small 8K TVs. You won't see the difference on a small screen between 8K and 4K. And it will be the same with photos. Viewing photos from GFX and other high-resolution FF cameras only makes sense on large 4K and preferably 8K screens. Watching on a small screen misses the point, you won't see the difference like you would with a big screen.

@MikeLikesChannel 7 ай бұрын

Exactly. We're only just now starting to get 8K and 12K panels for our editing department at work -- they're about $8000-25,000. Not in the realm of consumers yet. It's here where you notice what digital medium format (and full frame) files are buying you. Nobody on a 4K panel in 2023 is going to notice, but when a 12K panel is $499 at Costco in 2032... yes, people will realize "hmm, my Droid/iPhone pictures weren't as good as I thought."

@kevlarnegative 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love the idea of digital medium format but until it gets to the size of 645 or bigger I'd be hard pressed to actually invest in such a camera. Digital full frame is so good now and having the option for 1.4 or 1.2 lenses is just staggering for me. I'm not sure we acctualy need proper digital medium format anymore. My point is that we shoot medium format film for the medium formal look however it is still unattainable on digital. My dream is is to see 4x5 digital, now that would be just insanely good :D You have to agree!

@johnirby493 2 жыл бұрын

Put them up against my Deardorff 8x10 1 gazillion megapixel digital camera.

@anthonyrock5039 Жыл бұрын

Sl2 looked the "worst" of these great cameras. The Sony looked great too then GF looked better in transitions and details without looking artificially sharpened etc. They would all work for most applications and if work was never seen beyond a screen, money could be saved on a full frame but not much since a used 50r with adapted full frame lenses would be cheaper than the Sony or leica and yield a more flexible and dynamic raw file for any scale of final application. If it is a small print, or screen output a sports application or hi motion then of course a camera with faster focus aids like an apsc or full frame would be more user friendly.

@vadergrd 2 жыл бұрын

if fuju would fix the af pulsing and aperture switch when zooming ... with the new video capabilities they would smash!!! x t5 all the way !!

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

It’s bizarre to me that they do that

@zhenma8053 7 ай бұрын

sorry, but guessing the format rendering with a video is just laughable. The pb is not "is it better" but rather "does it suit my needs in terms of use cases", don't you think? I tried micro 4/3, APS-C, FF and MD, and I finally choose FF AND MD depending on the situation. It does not mean that I could not do the same with micro 4/3 and APS-C. You know better than I do that gear does not make the photographer.

@CryptoJones 5 ай бұрын

I love the iPhone trolling.

@fjzingo 2 жыл бұрын

The differences in depht is pretty obvious

@user-to3zy7ew5w 5 күн бұрын

Hi Mr. Flicker the background it anoing

@blazerbarrel2 2 жыл бұрын

Details details its all about the details , local contrast , edge separation , you got to have it for those 1:1 look and feel . Compare you will see !

@_o__o_ 2 жыл бұрын

am i watching a new Netflex show?

@ADFCHRONICLES 2 жыл бұрын

all done on your phone😂

@bodinian 2 жыл бұрын

Listen at 1.75x speed

@neoseyes 2 жыл бұрын

Looking at this on my laptop is senseless and worthless. You have to pixelpeep and tell us what you find. If you don't, this is just a waste of time. Buy yourself a Samsung nx mini and tell us why that camera is so good. (very good)

@hauxon 2 жыл бұрын

The $600 Mitakon lens you put on the GFX is a fun but makes the comparison kind of stupid. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

If Fujifilm had a 65mm f/1.4 or f/1.7 lens it would have been included too

@hauxon 2 жыл бұрын

@@benjhaisch They do have a 63mm f/1.3 (GF 80/1.7) normal-ish lens. The Mitakon is not a bad lens, a bit soft at f/1.4 but very decent stopped down a fraction. But it's not a lens that makes you buy into a system. The GF80 might however be such a lens.

@dennisscholz8026 4 ай бұрын

@@hauxon disagree, the mitakon is exactly what made me buy into the system. only lens delivering that special look on gfx right now.

@lesliesmith5266 2 жыл бұрын

From the outset found the flashing colour splages backgroud made the titles and diagrams very uncomfortable to look at or even see. Why doamericans insist on calling HAsselblAds HOsslblOds? The explanation of what you used your lens on went straight over my head.....I've been professional photographer for 40 yrs and learned nothing from your video.

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

That’s what my family called it growing up, so I’m sticking to it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@arunashamal 2 жыл бұрын

Medium format isn't overrated... Just the GFX is overrated.

@igorovsyannykov Жыл бұрын

Fujifilm all the way. Sony is very nice. Leica is meh (overhyped toy).

@simonfinch6639 2 жыл бұрын

How many ads!!! Jesus!

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

oh interesting! Like the youtube ones?

@marcel9568 2 жыл бұрын

Why all these annoying flashes? Disliked the video.

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Feel free to dislike it twice ;)

@marcel9568 2 жыл бұрын

@@benjhaisch I have to admit, nice reply.

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

@@marcel9568 haha well thanks, tried something out that didn’t bother me while I was tossing something together in my well-lit office, but realized it didn’t work. Can’t do anything about it now, so just improve for the next one