So, let's get a comment chain going! What future topics do you want to see discussed/theorized about for Ben 10, and what other shows/movies/games are you most interested in discussion videos about? Let me know!

I love the Idea of Osmosians all being able to learn how to absorb Energy from a Distance. Like an "advanced Osmosian Power". Learning a bit of magic could help developing this Ability and Michael surely knows some magic. Imagine Kevin or Michael getting drained (insert innuendo) and just absorbing his life-force back from a distance with an energy whip. "GET OVER HERE"

I always saw Darkstar as some kind of vampire, sure his powers did share some basic similarities with Kevin’s but there were some critical differences such as Darkstar needing to feed on the life force of others to sustain himself, turning his victims into slaves and those teeth in his hands. Although thank s the OV reworking Osmosian as a term for mutants, Darkstar is technically an Osmosian through that logic.

During Alien Force, they hadn't decided on Michael's origins yet. By Ultimate Alien, the crew had decided that he wasn't part alien.

I always thought of him being a hybrid between an Osmosian and a Vladat. Obviously Vladats were extinct at the time, but maybe he could have been the descendant of a Vladat (probably Dracula himself) and his genes had remained dormant throughtout his family until the the Osmosian genes awakened them in him. It makes sense, given the clear inspiration from Edward Cullen from Twilight, and it would also explain that weird leech mouth thing on his palms, a mutation caused by his hybrid nature

Honestly with the whole “They are mutants” thing I don’t really consider it cannon since it was Max freaking out and the ‘confirmation’ came from a known liar and manipulator that we have no reason to believe was telling the truth. Being fair it could also be that Ben just messed up when remaking that part of reality/the other Celestialsapiens messing about making a sort of a paradox, but I doubt it.

I really like the idea that Kevin's DNA was affected even after he undid it and broke the shell as if the omnitrix overwhelms his powers temporarily altering his DNA and made it as a permanent store to access and this especially makes sense with how kevin evolved after losing his fused material state (gaining access to infinitely adding more material and being able to alter his shape) I think the mutations to osmosians would only occur in a flight or fight state which would allow an osmosian to access more "power" from an object or being but permanently alters their apperance as their DNA was temporarily more influencable by another being/object

not gonna lie i didn't even consider Michael being an osmosian i just thought he had special powers like Cooper

I always assumed some point down the line Agregor would return in Omniverse and get a proper backstory. Because in Ultimate he was just "evil osmosian".

If you wanted to follow the theme started with this video, you should video on "Is Charmcaster an Anodite?" My personal theory on Anodite's is that they are living portals to Legerdomain. They can "open" themselves to allow this magic to pass through. This explains why they don't have DNA detectable by the Omnitrix.

I headcannon that servantis is just messing with max when someone runs up to you sans basically says “hey you put a memory in my head of a fake person I never met didn’t you” if I was servantis I’d do that exact same thing

Imo lack of horns can be explained by the fact that Kevin and Devilin were both hybrid osmosians, while Devin was clearly living on Earth, so he probably had them removed so that he would not stand out among humans

Ok. This is probably one of your best theories by far especially explaining Aggregor's horns which I didn't give much of a thought. Also didn't know the Plumber Kids were half human. Man I need to re-watch with Ben 10

For the plot holes you brought up for the OV retcon, we have an answer to what's up with Aggregor already. For all we know, the episode Vendetta could've never happened since Ragnarok was originally going to be a member of the Rooters, meaning that he could've still been alive. Aggregor could've just been referring to the Rooters base or maybe even the null void as Osmos V. Manny and Helen probs escaped the null void the same way Kevin & Argit did. Or Vilgax post season 2. Maybe because they escaped a different way. For Alan answer, see answer 4. How Alan got his plumber badge is a good question. It's also possible that his parents were still plumbers and he got his badge from his parents. I've never seen this question brought up tbf. Ben and Gwen saw them 1 time for like a couple of minutes when they were both 11. And for most of that encounter they were mainly focused on Kevin. Not only that but they were all wearing helmets (except for Kevin) which could've blocked their faces.

5:49 I was literally about to say that. I’m so glad you put that in, I wasn’t expecting it!

Great theory! It is a neat idea, an osmosian learning to use mana/magic. And really works on a thematic level of Michael being a dark reflection of Kevin, and a rival for Gwen's affection.

Ben 10 is probably the most inconsistent franchise of Man of Action ever created and is ironically one of there successful. It really teaches the lesson good writing doesn't always mean a large profit, sometims all it takes is memorable designs and good execution of 1 or more concepts.

I clicked on this video thinking "of course not!", and now having finished it I think the theory holds up. Good job!

First off, I love this theory, and the idea Aggregor has horns because someone in his family tree absorbed an alien with horns. Although I’m pretty sure there was a writer statement saying Aggregor has horns because he’s just older. But ngl I do prefer this idea more. Also I’m surprised you didn’t go over the fact Michael can range absorb (unless I somehow missed you going over it) I do think Michael being an Osmosian makes sense, it even makes the “evil counterparts” idea with Micheal being Kevin’s evil counterpart make more sense. But the ranged absorption can probably be explained with his frequent absorption of mana/life force. As after Ultimate Kevin absorbed mana, he was also able to do that.

I got around shitty Rooters Arc by headcanoning it so that Servantis LIED about Asmosians in order to turn Kevin against Ben, dude was OPENLY Bens hater and there's absolutely NO reason to believe he was actually telling the truth. As for Aggregor, in my headcanon he's actually either Kevins longlast dad making the one in the flashback his uncle OR more belivably he's Kevins longlost uncle EDIT: Also in the same headcanon Michael is Kevins cousin cause if that was true, it would be one hell of a plot-twist lol

:000 14/10 video Kiri!

I was under the impression that Kevin and Devin had horns, but you couldn’t see them because their hair covers it?

GradeAunerA reference? Yup, You get a like and a new sub for this.

This theory makes sense also I made the video of astral but first I wanna comment on your video also I put you and grag in it but still this theory makes more sense can't wait for your next theory you'll make

0:45 I laughed a little to heard at the addressing the elephant in the room bit came out of nowhere and I'm new here so yeah.😅

I like this theory Heckwah 🐉

Okay so no one mentions it anymore so I'm gonna go out there and say it. It's really funny that Darkstar is named MICHAEL Morningstar, the supposed brother to the Lightbringer/Fallen Angel of Samael or Lucifer Morningstar when you look at the christian faith. Another thing to point out is that after his debut episode, he very much keeps a Chaotic Neutral moral standing, where he either feeds off of people because he needs to, because it fits a certain goal of his, or because someone willingly gave it to him in exchange for his help. He's not exactly a hero, but isn't entirely a villain either, he's one of those gray area characters that is often portrayed in the blacker light of villainy, hell, look at his outfit, he's wearing dark colors, and has a mask on. The only time he's actually given better color is when he gets his energy fix, and when he's brimming with energy he takes on a Golden appearance, like he's brimming with light, which actually lends more to the first thing in that part above.

Maybe the real osmosians were the friends we made along the way

Maybe because 75% of canon osmosians are Kevin’s blood, but they all have black hair, but Morningstar strikes me as a dude that would dye his hair, just a detail I noticed

Before omnivers Delvyn (yes he is still in canon but now as Kevin and Gwen's son) in my opinion he is more of a clone of Kevin

I've been thinking the same thing. Either an osmosian or an anodyte half-breed given the similar- enough powerset to gwen. It would obviously have to be a male variation of annodytes and gold represents the males and he just had a mutation where he can't retain mana. One other possible option is he's an osmosian anodyte hybrid. Also I love the grade a under a bit. Never saw a KZfaqr reference him before.

Personally I never liked the retcon for Oasmosian's.

I always headcanoned Michael was an osmosian. I'm pretty sure he was a fake plumber's kid anyway and intended to be a mutant, which would render the distinction between him and true osmosians like Kevin moot. The greater version of this headcanon is that osmosians aren't just mutant humans, they're what humans as a whole are evolving into. Kevin, Michael, Aggregor, Devlin, Devin, and Ultimate Ben were all potential examples. It doesn't stop there. After osmosians they eventually evolve into chronians! That's right, Eon isn't just an alien he's the future hope for humanity! Paradox's experiment also sort of turned him into what could be thought of as the first chronian in this view. Now, as for why UA and Omniverse Eon are considered an alternate Ben rather than an alien, that's because they aren't the same Eon we saw in Race Against Time. That Eon fiddled with the omnitrix and forced it to scan his chronian dna, distinct enough from human to register as a seperate species at this point, which unlocked a form for Race Against Time Ben called Eon. Something about transformation Eon messes with Ben's head like Ghostfreak does, and he overcomes it long enough to stop the chronian invasion in the movie, but he would later fully succumb to the Eon form. This Eon Ben is the one that later comes back in UA and Omniverse as an alt Ben.

Kevin being an Osmosian and not just a mutant human also was a retcon, going from OS to AF So you can't take Devlin and adult Kevin into account here

Omni enhance for me it was the first one I saw and it was cool my guess for your favorite Omni kix because you included it in the kirintrix when most people forget it’s a thing or don’t include it

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im guessing you would want ultimates for your omnitrix

I definitely think that Dark Star's Osmosian parent might have absorbed some Ectonurite DNA, just because his grey skin is kind of like Ghost Freak's and the mouth thing feels like something he would do

What if Agregor still is an Osmosian, it is just that Kevin wasnt one, but the species are still a thing.

Makes sense! Happy that I guessed your starter, hope you're having a good day c: In regards to your poll, I'd guess that you'd go for ultimates. I'm going with ultimates too by default since I'm not as familiar with the alteration/powerups in the reboot. Feel like the first I'd try with it would be crashhopper, has potential to give fantastic rider kick

I don’t think he is a osmosian, I think he is just a hybrid of a race that has natural invincibility if having enough power.

Tbh I would 100% choose the ultimate gimmick, it's the first and what a first it is, the concept of evolving the aliens is such a great one, sadly it was Abit under used in the series

Your theory made me think of the Chimera Ants from Hunter x Hunter

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Imagine if Darkstar is secretly a distant relative of Vladats XD

Kevin's DNA wasnt just transformed once by the omnitrix, it was transformed AT LEAST 3 times prior to Devlin being born, possibly more, so theoretically Devlin could also have the ability to transform into any of the other mutated kevin forms, most notably UAF Mutated Kevin, which had absorbed Ultimate Aggregor's powers, which means its technically possible that Devlin COULD have had horns, however either Kevin's DNA didnt have enough of the "horn" trait to pass down to Devlin OR the horn trait is simply a recessive gene of certain osmosians, which is entirely possible. (And by extension hand mouthes could also possibly be a recessive gene)

I think that's inscription footage but I'm not sure cause I haven't played in a while

Honestly this was a pretty good theory at some point I don't think i can discredit it you this is a really good theory michael being an osmosian isnt really much of a strech and it could possibly be true but michael can only absorb energy and magic by the looks of it and not material like metal nor rock so he could be an osmosian or another mutation like cooper that absorbs all energy but materials but this might be one of my fave theories

Timestamp 3:20 - It was stated by the writers that the adult osmosians we see have thick hair that would hide the horns. This implication included Kevin. So really it is that the horns aren't visible.

Yeah another Ben 10 discussion

Im guessing omnikix on a whim

Michael

In the sense that Osmosian and Mutant are the same thing, yes. "Osmosian" is a word Servantis coined for mutant humans, so yes, he's an Osmosian.

Come to think of it, maybe he's also part Xenocite or that giant earthworm that I forget the name of (or even both who knows). As for how is he different from Kevin with his gold sparkles and all, I dare to say he's part Nemuina.

To be honest I forgot Michael had mouths on it's arms

please don't stop making videos like this

Love this theory. Also.....I hate Osmosian retcon in Omniverse. Like....come on, Celestialsapiens, what the fuck? Why?

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Neat a vid on jetray or echo echo or fastrack.Also i wach your vids because your awsome.Also also you also like Aggegor Hell yeah awsome.Also also also im pretty sure kevin was ment to grow horns.I remember that from ink tanks brackdown of the ultamite sacrifice but was droped.But that doesnt dissprove anything in the vid because we have only seen 4 osmosians and his dad coudve done the sideways tango with some rando with mouth hands,magic mutations or...yaknow...DISFIGERATIONS(or whatever you call it)you ever heard of jason.

About Michael Morningstar, I thought you were going to say Asmosians have a True form with horns and vents on their hands which makes more sense to me, I don't like the idea that Asmosians look like humans cause Ben 10 Universe is more diverse and unique than the ones in comics 8 (caugh caugh, DC, caugh caugh)

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Didnt inkspot do a video that there is enough evidence to say servantis is just LYING about kevin just being a mutant, and devin not existing, and that because the entire "aggragor is a kevin slone" thing never made it to air its nothing more then scapped concepts, not "canon" I'm sorry but it honestly feels like a worse then julie and ben's breakup, that was just badly handled, but could of worked better, I just really dont like, "no we altered all your memories, and this big bad guy is a clone" just to give a proper orgiin for the plumbers helpers aside from "one of your parents musta been an alien!" I get it folks wanted kevin back to being a mutant like the og series, but just destroying all that backstory with a "I altered all your memories" and then never even actualizing the numerous other plotploints like Agragor, and Ragnarok, Ben namedrops him earlier in omniverse, it just feels so cheap to turn kevin back into a mutant.

hes a mutant

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This theory makes way too much sense and also shows why I hate the omniverse retcon, I also think that Michael could be a half osmosian like Kev and got his mouths on his hand from his other parent, or he could be a different subspecies of osmosian or their clan use different technique to absorb energy and mana with the mouth hands/the energy touch drain