Is Mill Finally Good in Commander? | EDH | Bruvac Mill | Magic the Gathering

Is Mill Finally Good in Commander? | EDH | Bruvac Mill | Magic the Gathering | Commander

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Command your budget! The Commander’s Quarters is your source for everything budget Commander! With some new cards coming out, Mitch asks the question, is mill finally good in Commander?
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@ninjaxenomorph 4 жыл бұрын

It feels like Bruvac was explicitly made for a Persistent Petitioners deck.

@tisseurdereves6414 4 жыл бұрын

Ditto. I'm surprised he didn't open with this, let alone not mentioning it at all.

@vishiousbacon 4 жыл бұрын

Cheapest commander deck to build... I'm building it. I'll have 2 mono blue mill decks but it's fine

@LivingThing28 4 жыл бұрын

vishal bachan ?

@vishiousbacon 4 жыл бұрын

@@LivingThing28 thought PP was cheaper but it's not

@DisownedVT 4 жыл бұрын

This is maybe another shadowborne apostle situation, a common card that needs maybe 30 of them and then when the set is done printing it's going to be like $5 a card, right now persistent petitioners are like $2

@AussieAlex4 4 жыл бұрын

No, but it won't stop me loving mill as a hilarious strategy.

@weaponizedcynicism8021 4 жыл бұрын

No better feeling then milling someone's item they tutored to the top of their deck.

@ricksadler4594 4 жыл бұрын

I already play a mill deck with The Mimeoplasm. Group mill and then kill them with their own creatures. Or make Mimeoplasm a 100+/100+ and sacrifice to Alter of Dementia.

@weaponizedcynicism8021 4 жыл бұрын

@@ricksadler4594 Oof

@liammccafferty5638 4 жыл бұрын

Persistent Petitioners will forever be my most fun, jankiest deck

@kuwabaragriffin5429 4 жыл бұрын

@@ricksadler4594 lucky...all of my friends run many things that shuffle the grave into the deck when they hit

@kiwi_commander 4 жыл бұрын

Bruvac should have a 1BU and he would have been the perfect mill commander giving him access to the much needed black sources

@vekeuimonen11 4 жыл бұрын

Black is almost demanded since eldrazi titans are a thing and you need to either instant speed exile grave, remove graves completely or search opponents deck to exile

@mattd3978 4 жыл бұрын

I agree, I feel like that's the one aspect that'd keep me from running him as my commander

@barronkoll6436 4 жыл бұрын

That's why I use Lazav, the Multifarious for my self mill, black allows you to take advantage of putting things into graveyards, whether its exile, reanimation, black is a go in mill

@captainhalfbeard3038 4 жыл бұрын

Tormonds crypt? As long as it's out, activating it can be in response to an eldrazi hitting the grave.

@vekeuimonen11 4 жыл бұрын

@@captainhalfbeard3038 that works, actually now that i think of it there are quite a few colorless options for exiling instant speed but black is still much more efficient and offer a lot of options for even trickier situations. Some times you are against 2 players with shuffle effects

@thomashock7993 4 жыл бұрын

The best part if you run persistent petitioner you can use this as a petitioner as its ability says an advisor

@therubyskeleton1002 4 жыл бұрын

Bruvac: is mono blue. Me: *cries in Dimir.

@ShadowMiner2358 4 жыл бұрын

Same dude... same...

@deadboyindrag2518 4 жыл бұрын

@Deamonic 4 жыл бұрын

He could go well in my Dimir Mill deck, which works GREAT when I don't get focused by the other 3 players....

@rennac3152 4 жыл бұрын

Dimir will always be my guild, I’d rather go down with my Consuming aberration on the field then mono blue someone

@Deamonic 4 жыл бұрын

@@rennac3152 the last time I won with that deck, I used Archetype of Imagination to evade an Angel deck, swung with Wrexial, the Risen Deep, cast Congregate out of her graveyard off his trigger, gained 200+ life (which saved my ass, as I was at less than 10), then cast Mirko Vosk. Next turn, swung Vosk, she had less than three land left, win.

@655emir 4 жыл бұрын

Funny enough cloning Bruvac would double the doubling effect, so stuff like Spark Double and Helm would be great with him. I think you can also just double the Bruvac effect?

@changhyon92 4 жыл бұрын

that is correct, just like having multiple Angrath's Marauders gets insane, multiple Bruvacs also gets stupid real quick

@MrDigidestiny 4 жыл бұрын

Yup, anything that doubles a triggered effect, like Strionic Resonator, would double it again. But I think Helm of the Host would be the best, getting an extra doubling every time you move to combat. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of ways to get extra combats in blue.

@solarraine4902 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrDigidestiny You can't Strionic Resonator Bruvac, it isn't a triggered ability it is a replacement effect. If a triggered ability is what is causing the opponent to mill you can copy that one though.

@peterosborne8315 4 жыл бұрын

Yup just psychic spiralled 11 cards with a spark doubled bruvac in response to removal. Felt pretty good milling 44 cards out of nowhere

@tinosdragatsis 4 жыл бұрын

I feel Bruvac needed to be in dimir to be amazing. A lot of mil cards also have black.

@adams3627 4 жыл бұрын

I can't say if mill is good in Commander, but I will say that when my friend Liz (who loves making mill decks in all formats) saw the Jumpstart spoilers, she made happy velociraptor noises.

@maisiequinn8512 4 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love Bruvac's flavor. He literally talks so much you begin to lose brain cells.

@leadpainter8419 4 жыл бұрын

Phenax: "Am I a joke to you?!?"

@Blackadam36 4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Mill was my second deck ever and is still a deck I run to this day. All I’ve been doing is upgrading with these awesome cards and this just pushed it over the top.

@borosman720 4 жыл бұрын

Boros doesn't mill.

@Tom-ub5yn 4 жыл бұрын

For the Legion!

@BladedCreed 4 жыл бұрын

Boros doesn’t do anything

@Fishcrab 4 жыл бұрын

@@BladedCreed boros does do a lot of things, however it doesnt ramp or draw as well as some others. However, there have been some commanders recently that help and it also seems to be getting more attention.

@Damien-oi4vv 4 жыл бұрын

boros man Not the man we asked for, but he is the man we need

@marceloquejinho 4 жыл бұрын

I have to disagree. But it is a combo Win. Aurelia the Warleader + adarkar valkyrie + altar of dementia Attack with Aurelia, creating a combate phase. Activate Adarkar's ability targeting Aurelia Sac Aurelia to the Altar, milling someone a little Adarkar's trigger will bring Aurelia back, right in time for another combat phase, but now Aurelia is a New object and will be attacking for the First time Repeat and you milled in Boros! XD Watched this combo on CommanderReplay Channel, another Boros player Can also work with any sac engine like Goblin Bombardment ☀️🔥👊

@hawke9800 4 жыл бұрын

For Ulamog/Kozilek, you need artifact cards that exile opponent’s graveyard. You can activate it in response to the Eldrazis’ triggered effects.

@PaulGaither 4 жыл бұрын

Even against Eldrazi, what does your opponents game state look like? They rarely have the Mana needed to cast them and won't have other cards in their deck, so they have to find a way to win with what is in their hand and have a short clock to do it in.

@krism5299 4 жыл бұрын

Memoricide works well, or sacred sacrament to get them out of their library.

@techoutsider5631 3 жыл бұрын

Or even more hilariously (this only works with a lot of mana) use Geth, Lord of the Vault to reanimate them in response to their trigger. It's the kind of thing that will only happen once in a lifetime but will be a legendary moment when it does.

@empiresreign5066 4 жыл бұрын

My first blue deck was a mill deck and always believed it was viable. It brought me so much pleasure seeing so many of my cards I’ve put in my commander deck in this list.

@RaginKavu 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta love that Phenax deck! Back then, the channel was way smaller (so was the price of Bauble too 😅), and Mitch actually accepted one of my suggestions! Now he has patreons and such that talk directly to him. But hey, it got where it is because it's a good channel! It deserves all of itl

@ehallam08 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mitch! I just realized that I haven't read the new cards yet, just checked out the reprints.

@snoozingoriginal4263 4 жыл бұрын

I love the quick explanation of Grandliquent. It was funny and still taught something. Neat little addition.

@alexanderaloi5173 4 жыл бұрын

Love the jacket, even the quiet support is appreciated :)

@cwinship 4 жыл бұрын

If I was making Mill, I'd probably run this in the 99 of a Phenax deck honestly

@sinnaro13 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you mentioned the Eldrazi. I have specifically included an Ulamog in my Ghave combo deck to prevent losing to mill. That was the one strategy that I was encountering that hurt me a lot in that deck.

@cantstopmygo420 4 жыл бұрын

To get around shuffle effects just run a couple stifle cards

@ancientswordrage 4 жыл бұрын

I'm building a mono-blue edh deck that has some mill, and the way I use it is not to make mill my only win con. I use it so I can make my opponents graveyard a resource or have other mill payoffs. Yet to test the deck, but I feel that makes it less annoying and more interactive.

@MrKeroro623 4 жыл бұрын

key part when making a deck around this commander, check to see if the cards have been eratated to say mill

@nathanrhoades6504 4 жыл бұрын

The errata have happened to cards with mill.

@SnailMan307 4 жыл бұрын

I have a phenax mill deck that uses persistent petitioners and my main go to for dealing with the Titans is dimir doppelgänger. it can copy any creature in the graveyard and exile it as a result. The shuffle affect still happens, but the eldrazi get exiled and the effect can’t happen again, Plus now you have your own titan on the field.

@water.dragon4442 4 жыл бұрын

Building one right now... Thanx for the tips.

@kiritrapgaming5988 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve always loved having mill as a sub theme in my decks. Slap down and Oona, great way to burn mana, traumatize with grave watcher and watch them pick through half their deck for cards to save

@drecan6341 4 жыл бұрын

Mill was my first EDH deck and will always have one. Current one is Damia with petitioners

@jasonmohn1472 4 жыл бұрын

Here's a fun mill combo that works in commander, Tunnel Vision and a Junktroller or Hinder. Junktroller or Hinder puts a card on the bottom of a library, an opponent's in this case. Tunnel Vision has you name a card and they have to mill till they find the named card, you just name the one you just put on the bottom and in commander they will mill everything since it's the only card with that name by rule. They now have a one card deck.

@danblades16 2 жыл бұрын

*slow clap*

@rowrow_ 4 жыл бұрын

One thing Dimir has in its favor to deal with Shuffle titans is Yixlid Jailer which turns off abilities in graveyards. Also has the added bonus of letting you reanimate shuffle titans!

@Jeepod 4 жыл бұрын

You can always run cards like stiffle/tale's end etc for those pesky titans

@Devilish420 4 жыл бұрын

There are some spells that exile a chosen card from a library to get around the eldrazi's shuffle effect. 3 examples I can think of from the top of my head are Unmoored Ego, Appetite for Brains, and cranial extraction. Granted those are mainly black spells but if you have phenax as your mill commander that won't be an issue.

@blindcommander 4 жыл бұрын

This is awesome! Curse of the Bloody Tome, Thought Scout, Thought Collapse, Mind Sculpt! I have a mill deck already. This helps, but I think mill has always been fine. In my play group it's never been over or under powered.

@NerdByAnyOtherName 4 жыл бұрын

Surprised you didn't mention Persistent Petitioners. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw Bruvac. He's an 'advisor' , so synergy there, and with him in play you can tap 4 advisors (petitioners) to mill someone for 24 (a 1/4 of their libarary).

@ethanchapman3799 4 жыл бұрын

Ben playing mill as my second commander deck and ain't stopping now

@ryanhefner2011 4 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind Bruvac is in blue and you can stifle the Shuffle-titans effects. And other cards that do the same thing. Definitely worth considering at this point.

@paulfrie3261 4 жыл бұрын

Not sure if this was mentioned or not yet Mitch, but it requires a little bit of setup, but infinite draw into infinite mill or damage. I run the combo is an exodia setup. Master Transmuter+Freed from the Reel+Guilded Lotus. If you manage that with treasure trove in play, you’ create infinite mana, into infinite draw and then you can use psychosis crawler and elixir of immortality to deal infinite damage...or essentially infinite draw into milking depending on enchantments in play

@edwardmcintosh7952 4 жыл бұрын

Bruvac, Undead Alchemist, and Altar of the Brood in a multiplayer game for good times

@Ascendedninja6 3 жыл бұрын

I made a Mirko Vosk, mill, kill and counter spells deck that I run Bruvac in and it wrecks for the minimal amount of time it's on the battlefield because it mills so hard lol. To take care of the Eldrazi I run Jester's Cap, Sadistic Sacrament, Denying Wind, Nightmare Incursion and Bitter Ordeal (my favorite because of obvious reasons in a mill deck). These cards allow you to search opponents decks and exile cards directly from their deck before they become a problem.

@nathanallen9068 4 жыл бұрын

Soooo, how does Sphinx Tutelage really work out here? There’s two things going on with the enchantment: 1) “Mill” 2 and 2) if BOTH those cards are nonland and share a color, repeat the Mill 2. So, our commander in question certainly doubles the “Mill” effect, but how does it affect the “if BOTH cards are etc.” Would all 4 cards need to be nonland cards that share the same color? Would you split the effect in half, and just account for 2 cards at a time?

@TheCrashdive 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know if that's how it officially is done, but when I used Sphinx's Tutelage in my 60 card deck, any doubling effects would go on the stack. So my opponent would mill 2, then if there are no lands mill 2 again. Let's say they now milled a land. Then the "double" mill would come to trigger and they would mill 2 again. But again, idk how it would is officially regulated, that's just how our group played.

@user-of8uq7wt2s 3 жыл бұрын

Oracle text of tutelage was changed and now it says *if two of those cards are the same color, repeat the process*

@noardon1 4 жыл бұрын

A friend in my play group loves mill and life gain. They decided to build around Oloro, and my god if you don’t stop them by turn 6, you’re absolutely toast. I don’t remember the exact combo they use (will update tomorrow with that), but essentially, when they gain life, they draw a card, and when they draw a card, they gain one life. This loops infinitely, and when paired with Sphinx’s Tutelage, Psychic Corrosion, and Alhammaret’s Archive, there’s nothing we can really do to stop it. It’s absolutely terrifying and beautiful.

@Spirited_skiing 4 жыл бұрын

This is sweet in dimir packages especially because black has a couple cards to toss in the deck to exile a creature from someone’s library, or in mono-blue bribery would work in a non budget deck. it’s probably just my meta but it feels like at least half the decks I play run a shuffle titan.

@fragarach97 4 жыл бұрын

For a little bit now I've been considering a Wrexial deck less more focused on graverobbing my opponents and using mill as a means to get there. I feel like Bruvac's biggest issue is his lack of black to add more flexibility and answers to cards like Ulamog and Kozilek. Either way if I DO build Wrexial he'll be in there. Though I already have two Dimir commanders already...

@Dsparky121 4 жыл бұрын

I think the reason why he only doubles up on opponents so that affects like Mesmeric Orb that affect everyone don’t hurt us as much so we get to kinda break the symmetry

@MrLabpro 4 жыл бұрын

i pulled a bruvac from a jumpstart pack a couple days ago and i was hype

@DeadlyDustBunni 4 жыл бұрын

I use Muldrotha in combination with Traumatize to dump half the remainder of a library into a graveyard, and if mana is still available, Keening Stone to dump the remainder of the deck into the graveyard. Gonna have to get Bruvac now to accelerate this to a one cast play. Laboratory Maniac on the field and targeting myself to try and end things abruptly. Consuming Aberration + Undead Alchemist + The Scarab God is also fun in combination with other zombies you can recur from the graveyard to keep the pressure up. 💜

@ShadowMiner2358 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine pairing patient rebuilding, psychic corrosion, and Bruvac together. Your opponents could possibly mill for so much each turn

@danielaserkoff7746 4 жыл бұрын

Dimir: {Insert Thanos impossible meme here}

@Bl4eberry 4 жыл бұрын

One of my pet decks is a Simic Tishana "advisor ball" mill deck using Persistant Petitioner and untappers like murkfiend liege and seedborn muse. Quite decent win rate.

@iDetections 4 жыл бұрын

My favorite mill combo is always going to be going infinite, and then using keening stone.

@ryangainey94 4 жыл бұрын

Also. When it comes to an effect like Mirko Vosk, I think you would calculate the end result and see how many cards Mirko wound up milling, whether it's 4 cards or 30 cards, then Bruvac doubles whatever number you get. But I could be wrong. That just seems to me like how that would work because that definitely feels like a mill effect.

@christianmccoy254 4 жыл бұрын

Ryan Gainey that’s how I hope it works, but I can’t find a ruling on it yet

@Codence666 4 жыл бұрын

Zur with Persistent Petitioners. Play Zur, swing, grab intruder alarm. Works amazingly well

@dylanwaites 4 жыл бұрын

Mill as a win condition is still kind of iffy, but in a deck with The Scarab God in the driver’s seat would allow you to mill and then use what they’ve milled to value your way to victory. And have probably 20-30 (or more) of that blue advisor creature from Ravnica: Allegiance that lets you have any number of it in your deck

@manadad 4 жыл бұрын

This definitely put mill over the top for me! Can’t wait to build around Bruvac!

@vishiousbacon 4 жыл бұрын

My mill deck is mono blue baral commander with the option for self mill but mainly focused on deterring attacking me with cards like evacuate and illusionist Gambit and counter spells then combo milling the last one or two people left.

@joeboyd776 3 жыл бұрын

Bruvac is also an Advisor which plays well in the 99 of a Grand Arbiter Augustin IV Persistent Petitioners mill strategy

@taishoukinjiro 4 жыл бұрын

Just double checking. Does the mill still double when RIP or Leyline of the Void are out? I'm trying to think of the different substitution effects at the same time

@tauntdragoon 2 жыл бұрын

Where i play alot of the players play the eldrazi in their deck just to counter mill or have blight steel then with the new undead alchemists it was a shot but cause the stack it still negated by the drazi but if you got the land that let u sac it to exile target graveyard then u can counter the drazi's

@MrNemitri 4 жыл бұрын

There's one way to prevent the eldrazi titans from reshuffling the opponent's deck, if I recall correctly, that is a triggered ability, so pack cards like stifle (that counter triggered abilities), should you suspect an opponent has an eldrazi in the deck, just save it for that moment.

@Ikhebhonger1 4 жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention Gaea's Blessing as a budget alternative to the shuffle titans

@sweetandsaltyminx7310 4 жыл бұрын

Bruvac is goin straight into my partners Tatyova mill deck. U/G mill is super underrated!

@Kripkee 9 ай бұрын

Sphinx's tutelage is actually really nuts, as long as any two of the four share a color, it repeats.

@xgxwills2857 4 жыл бұрын

Altar of the Brood + Smothering Tithe is a really cool synergy because now if your opponent doesn’t pay, they get milled and ramp you

@Minotarro 4 жыл бұрын

I actually play a wrexial mill edh deck and a phenax mill edh deck: I can't say I win consistently but I surely have a lot of fun. I'm gonna build a Bruvec petitioners deck, cant wait!

@peterosborne8315 4 жыл бұрын

Damn your pretty invested in mill...

@Minotarro 4 жыл бұрын

@@peterosborne8315 yeah mate :) I find it a challenging way to win at least for edh. I also had a mill deck for standard... building the modern one for a while. Have fun playing friend (y)

@CptnClapBack 4 жыл бұрын

An excellent work around for those pesky Eldrazi is Eater of the Dead

@scourgeneo7834 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a step in the right direction, but what we really need is more things that spreads mill out amongst opponents, or a UB commander that takes single target effects, and spreads them to each opponent. Because if you are attacking all fronts at once, it’s more efficient. The issue is, like you said, is that you job becomes a hundred times harder when you have to worry about hitting more than one person. Doubling of effects is fine, and was definitely a much needed effect...but UB Mill really needs is either a way to make those single targeted Mill effects apply to everyone, or needs to have more of a flood of cards that affect everyone. And considering how much more cost efficient in design it would be, I’m more so leaning towards the option of a Legend that spreads single target effects.

@ShadowMiner2358 4 жыл бұрын

also, I wish bruvac had black on him somewhere because that would open up so many more options

@jaimeabengoechea8463 3 жыл бұрын

Lithoform engine is also really good in this deck (I know the card wasn’t released when the vid came out)

@ethangeis1246 4 жыл бұрын

Jace, Memory Adept would also be a great combo with Bruvac. His 0 ability mills 10 off a player's library, making it 20 with Bruvac.

@azmirith2515 4 жыл бұрын

For me bruvac is finding a comfy home in the 99 of my phenax deck. Mill in commander benefits a lot from various black spells. The most recent best inclusion is erebos's intervention for that instant speed graveyard exile. Being able to remove specific cards from graveyards is essential for mill in commander to stop graveyard decks and titans. Also the 100 cards of commander is small with group mill and cards like bonehoard/consuming abberation.

@ethanicuscopernicus6758 3 жыл бұрын

after dismantling my Phenax deck I just discovered Charix, the Raging Isle

@sinnaro13 3 жыл бұрын

First thing I noticed, the rainbow planeswalker emblem.

@pmc0502 4 жыл бұрын

To build onto the shuffle titans point; if you are running mill you NEED to be running some form of graveyard hate. You can't really win by milling when you are just putting yard decks in the lead. When you mill a titan and the shuffle ability goes onto the stack, there is your chance to exile it with your graveyard hate. Yes they will still get the shuffle but it means that you can then start working towards you wincon

@charliescheirmann2926 2 жыл бұрын

There is something very entertaining about milling an opponents good card and hearing them groan about it. Especially if you also mill their graveyard recursion

@colbyhoman7602 4 жыл бұрын

"is mill finally viable in commander" obviously you've never played against a phenax deck

@ryangainey94 4 жыл бұрын

Two words: Eldrazi Titans. Running just one in the deck is insurance against everything except an infinite-mill, and even then it's possible to still have a discard effect for the titan, or cast and counter, or cast and sac outlet, to just loop it and stop a mill victory. Plus you have to be careful of enemy blue decks running things like Thassa's Oracle, Lab man, Jace Wielder of Mysteries... Black players who have Necropotence... Anyone running Possessed Portal or Omen Machine or any other cards that stop draws... There's just too many ways to stop a mill victory, and in higher tiers of cedh, self-mill with Doomsday and other effects is quite common. Oona Queen of the Fae is better for mill since she exiles, but you still have a lot of problems.

@colbyhoman7602 4 жыл бұрын

@@ryangainey94 i suppose i'm not use to my playgroup having the budget for those. but also, those still hose the new mono blue approach in the video, even more so because you don't have access to instant speed graveyard hate. If anything that makes mono blue less powerful than a BU version

@TheMrFrankov 4 жыл бұрын

@@ryangainey94 leyline of the void

@mikeya2384 4 жыл бұрын

Yea phenax with walls and high toughness creatures is really good. Some really good black/blue cards out there for mill

@Zirnike 4 жыл бұрын

Yep. My phenex/steal creatures deck is kind of hated. Of course, I built it because someone else built a mill oathbreaker, and wanted to annoy him back...

@Nick-dn9lv 4 жыл бұрын

have a phenax in our playgroup and that deck is gnarly. Most of our decks are around 7/8. It gets plenty of wins.

@yetifist2511 4 жыл бұрын

I've been running a mono blue mill deck for a while (commander is Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur), although the end goal is being a nuisance rather than winning, all the same to me. The new cards coming will definitely help.

@brendanwilkinson9199 4 жыл бұрын

I built an agro dimir mill deck for commander that is somewhat budget coming in at about $90. My commander is Szadek

@GodofMasks 4 жыл бұрын

I never thought mill wasn't good in commander. XD One of my strongest decks (Muldrotha) runs mill as a main theme and it's a ton of fun! My answer to the shuffledrazis is Nexus of Fate. People tend to get cocky thinking that I'm trying to mill them out and then I mill myself into infinite turns.

@Trasgobardo 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I immediately knew that "Grind" effects will not interact with Bruvac. So a new piece for Phenax to trigger sooner the Archenemy Mode! I'm already hearing the groans of disappointment when they start drooping their combo pieces and OP spells~

@averyspillane9721 4 жыл бұрын

I advise that you talk about persistent petitioners!!!

@codyscherer6930 2 жыл бұрын

I revamping one of edh decks with some of these to feed my commander mimeoplasm and a few other cards in my deck also have things like blighted agent in there to copy and wack for big infect / commander damage

@grantirwin7540 4 жыл бұрын

Been working on this lately. I'll watch shortly and look for similarities...

@edwinquinones9356 4 жыл бұрын

Jesters Cap would be a good way to get those card like gaea’s blessing also

@Darchias 4 жыл бұрын

You need to run graveyard hate in mill decks anyway. Use stuff like Soul Guide Lantern, Tormod's Crypt and Relic of Progenitus to pop those shuffle titans while the trigger is on the stack.

@dfbalestra 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve been running mill deck for years. Not easy to mill out multiple people but can be done. Bruvac is gonna make it a little easier now

@TheFunLuvnCRIMINAL 4 жыл бұрын

Buy the mill staples while cheap, dogs too. Mill deck is still not there in edh form but close. Once we get more staples, these staples will shoot up in price. Dogs are too early to be a solid edh creature type, but by the obvious staples soon.

@christianmccoy254 4 жыл бұрын

Ricky A. Hounds are now dogs, so there’s more dogs than you might think

@joeferreti9442 4 жыл бұрын

Mill staples are already overpriced and Bruvac will mostly likely be inaccessible. And dogs are horrible.

@maryjones104 4 жыл бұрын

Don't do this.

@TheFunLuvnCRIMINAL 4 жыл бұрын

@@maryjones104 don't comment

@maryjones104 4 жыл бұрын

@Ricky A. Don't mislead people into wasting their money on this, it's just cruel :/

@TheMarktuber 4 жыл бұрын

This card is a huge help to the Mill edh decks but Phenax is still going to be leading It in my deck, his effect is a hard to ride engine that also has access to black and it's tutors to find Brubac and turn him into a creature that mills 8 cards a turn by itself for 3 mana in addition to double every Phenax activation , black also gives Answers to the eldrazi titans like Kalitas and leyline of the void to ensure that our mill dont go away.

@zero-kv4gw 4 жыл бұрын

I belive the reason why it say opponent is just not make lab deck more powerful but that's my guess

@maryjones104 4 жыл бұрын

One of my favourite mill decks has to be the uber-janky mono BLACK mill deck, with Geth as the commander. Tons of fun, you should do a Geth deck!

@joemartins5041 4 жыл бұрын

It's actually possible to survive a Traumatize + Bruvac, because Traumatize says 'rounded down'. This means that if you have an odd number of cards in your library, 1 card will remain. For example, if you have 73 cards you will mill 36 cards two times, which is 72. Anyway... you better pray to win with that last card.

@paintedhorse6880 3 жыл бұрын

I remember when my family first started getting into MTG. My brother made a mill deck. I fucking hated that thing. Of course at this point I had no idea how to make good decks.

@UltimateOmbuStorm 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe mill decks need to run some stifle effects to prevent the shuffle eldrazi. It would suck to have to devote slots in your deck for that purpose alone, but maybe in the future we get a mill-centric card that can incidentally serve that purpose. Imagine an enchantment that has a minor mill effect and can be sacrificed for a stifle.

@user-xn2ve9tm1r 4 жыл бұрын

I,m play lazav . Lazav with annigilator 6 not bad))))

@yungo1rst 4 жыл бұрын

A list of cards for Bruvac, Manic Scribe, Persistent petitioners, Psychic spiral, Startled awake, Keening stone, Visions of beyond, Jace's phantasm, Sand's of delirium, Visions of beyond, Sphinx mindbreaker, Sphinx ambassador.

@coldramen6600 4 жыл бұрын

Psychic corrosion trriggers are seperate so it would be 12×7 with the aura and your commander.

@alexdobbins950 4 жыл бұрын

I think if the deck is built correctly it will take some people out by surprise but it’s still going to be hard to take out the whole table. Another card that seems good is Hedron Crab. 6 cards milled just for playing a land at the low cost of 1 mana.

@johnhayes7590 4 жыл бұрын

Is nobody going to say it? Consecrated sphinx with sphinx's tutelage. Every opponents turn, you draw at least 2 from the sphinx, which triggers the tutelage twice. With the doubling from your commander, that would get silly fast

@tylerbohmer6068 4 жыл бұрын

That's disgusting... Thank you 😂

@sandwichboy1268 4 жыл бұрын

Mitch: "is mill finally good in commander?" Me, who frequently plays a Phenax mill deck in EDH and wins frequently: "yes"

@rickers2011 4 жыл бұрын

Could you post your deck list? I'm trying to fix my phenax deck. Thanks!

@alexreale6691 4 жыл бұрын

If you can post your deck list, it would be awesome!

@itsmebk7 4 жыл бұрын

Same here, mill is my favorite, and always was good in commander 😈

@HelgePodolski 3 жыл бұрын

@@rickers2011 since you got no response I am willing to share my own Phenax deck I am quite satisfied with. My playgroup is not that competitive though. deckstats.net/decks/1531/1715270-gotta-mill-em-all/en

@rickers2011 3 жыл бұрын

@@HelgePodolski thats a solid deck! Thanks!!

@invertedghostgames9899 4 жыл бұрын

Question: With all these triggers, such as the ones with Sphinx's Tutelage and Teferi's Tutelage, is it theoretically possible to go infinite in this type of deck? Let's say you have Sphinx's Tutelage on the field, and something else that could double it's milling trigger. With this new commander here too, could it possibly hit enough to go infinite, outside of something like a Maelstom Wanderer deck with 96 lands?