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I 'upgraded' from an aw3423dw to a cooler master gp27q after having warranty issues with the QD-OLED. The mini led can show a bit of blooming in the dark scenes which is more noticeable if you view it of axis but the brightness and HDR impact of the mini-led in bright scenes is mind blowing. The brightness, text clarity, HDR impact and no burn in make a compelling case for mini-led especially for a mixed gamming productivity use.

MiniLed just needs more zones. RedMagic just announced a 5000 zone monitor for 2024, its getting there.

OLED is unquestionably the right choice if you play a lot of Pong.

Watching this on an IPS, I liked C better, guessed A and C were OLEDs, didn't know B was VA but def was a backlit screen, D isn't bad, but something on it was kinda off to me. Can't wait for MicroLED

As someone who oddly prefers miniled I will say burn in risk is overated on current oled displays. I did have a Samsung s7 that experienced burning from watching KZfaq videos but current displays have developed ways to minimize risk of burn in. So much so that a KZfaq burn in test of the OLED Nintendo switch have set on a single screen for over a year with no real sign of burn in

This is seriously the most underrated channel, amazing work man, i'd love if you could make a video on the current sate of Freesync, gsync, vsync and fast sync and the best case usage for each type.

Super informative video with good comparison and explanation. I probably won't notice the local dimming imperfections because I hate looking at monitor in dark room (most noticeable I think). Mini Led still has rooms for improvement. Hopefully next year, there will be a lot of cheaper options for mini led and oled monitors.

I bought the G9 neo over an OLED monitor because I usually have bought a monitor and used it for 6-7 years. I got a 3440x1440 back when they were still pretty new in 2015/16 and just upgraded. if I got burn in after 3 years it would kind of ruin the investment for me. besides the upgrade to mini-led was so much better than the regular IPS panel I had before. It was a good panel in 2015, but no HDR or local dimming so blacks were pretty grey.

I will say I ended up sticking with my LG C2 over the $3000 PA32UCG MINI LED, the contrast and ability to turn off pixels looks better to the eyes than 1700 nit brightness. It took awhile to fully conclude but I have no doubts or regrets

Very nice unbiased review. You did a great job showing the pros n cons

Greate work man you just elaborated each and every thing nicely.

Top video, excellent and clear explanation.

This is much helpful thankyou ❤

Just at the 0:43 mark for Sample D, watching on a VA panel I immediately saw the camera capturing the halo around the fruit on the left. Since the rest of the blacks looked good and A and C didn't have this effect it was pretty obvious that D was the Mini LED from this alone. You also need to factor in other aspects that make OLEDs better than LCDs such as superior response times for the OLED which cannot be fixed by introducing dimming zones on the back light. An LCD will always be an LCD.

The only place where mini-LED looks as good as OLEDs is cinematic experience. That also happens to be the only place where OLEDs are least prone to burn in. Mini LEDs are crap in desktop work compared to OLEDs (I speak from experience) - but it is also the most burn in inducing task for OLEDs… Why can’t we just have the perfect tech?

Oled also has the advantage of ultra low grey-to-grey response times so it virtually has no motion blur, the only two downsides (which also is a doubled edged sword) is the low brightness of oled. If you want more brightness there is a lot more risk of burn in.

I love my Innocn Mini Led Monitor. For under 500$ 4k 27" it's a steal for what i use it for. Which is mostly video editing and content consumption. The dimming zones are definitley noticiable but arent that big of a deal. The image is absolutely beautiful and color accurate. My end game would be this same monitor but with more zones and higher refresh rate. That would be perfect and that future monitor will still probably cost less than 1000$ when it comes out which will be the deciding factor over OLEDs if their prices dont go down.

To say the Mini LED is worse than OLED isn't really an argument (I'm not saying this video is useless, but it's very informative). Mini LED is meant to be a product in between regular LCD and OLED. Sort of like 'OLED quality at an LCD price' kinda marketing.

Could you do a comparison between the KTC M2T20 and the AOC Q27G3XMN with response time performance at 120 and 60 hertz. Both are 27 inch QHD mini LED, would like to see which is best. Thanks

Excellent breakdown.

I have a 27” oled sitting right next to a 27” mini led monitor. I 100% agree with everything stated here. High APL games like Spider-Man Miles Morales? I play on my mini led. Low APL games like Resident Evil 2 Remake? I play on my oled. Also, very glad you highlighted at 3:39 how teeny tiny highlights (0.01% window size?) are far far less bright on mini led displays than oled. It makes a huge difference in hdr impact and cannot be emphasized enough how much of a limitation this is for mini LED monitors and TV’s.

very great video, congrats. subscribed.

Really glad with my aliendware qd oled monitor, amazing picture quality with amazing clarity and response time. The only and only issue I have with it is the risk of burn in, but other than that I can easily use for atleast 5-6 years without the need to upgrade

@techless What’s the best monitor for competitive console gaming on ps5?

Monitor A looked neutral, B had backlight and a bit oversaturated, C was undersaturated and D was also oversaturated but without easy to see backligth. From there, I was guessing each correctly, but I think if A, B and D were callibrated to have identical colors, telling A from D might be difficult. Looking more closely, there also seems to be some aliasing, especially for monitors A and C, indicating that they may be 1440p vs 4k for D.

Great comparison and very informative. Thanks!

Man I wish microled was already full mainstream available at cheap prices

Can't wait for next gen with more local dimming zones, probably gonna upgrade with rest of specs same as my current nano-IPS.

Well... what I decided to use is QE55QN85C mini-led TV as... a monitor/TV hybrid. Obviously not at desk very close, but like a meter away, mostly to display spreadsheets for work. I didn't use it yet, seems like a dumb idea but... had limited space to work with in my new flat. So space arrangement is a bit unusual to say the least. Desk that doubles as coffee table, repurposed from gaming desk meant for kids (lifts from 50 cm to 81 cm via electric motor within)... the idea being that for work I just bring it up to full height, shift it a bit closer to tv, drag gaming chair behind it, and use the setup as such. Will let you know how it works out.

I was able to tell that sample D was the mini led, though I am watching on a shitty LCD phone, so take everything I say with a grain of Halite. 0:11 Panel D stuck out, as the grapes looked a lot greener than for panel C, and oleds are able to nail golden shades better. 0:14 Also the honey was a lot brighter, so that is another potential giveaway.

I just had to take a second to say this video has incredible production quality.

Hi! Excellent video as always. How could I contact you to ask you some questions regarding to DisplayCAL? Thank you 😁

I got the LG 27GR95QE oled a week ago. Before I have been gaming on the LG 27GP850 IPS and an LG C2 65" oled. The new display are both of these combined. There is no denying this is the "end-game" monitor for me. A lot of games have a whole new feeling when playing them, also I do play mostly in a dark room so no backlight-bleed/blooming is something I'm glad the oled is without.

I have used a Mini LED monitor same model (m27t20) as the vedio for over half year, and figured out that the color accuracy under HDR mode is acutually the biggest problem. Since there're almost no color calibration resolution under HDR playback.

great knowledgeable video, what monitors do you personally use?

I have the KTC M27P20P and have to say... I love this monitor.

I could easily tell that sample A and sample C were OLED monitors at 720p youtube quality and 2% monitor brightness. For some people Mini-LED might suffice but after my LG C2 there's no way in hell I'm letting my next monitor be anything other than a glossy OLED. Only problem I can think of is text rendering but that is fixable to some degree, I believe.

I went QD-OLED with the alienware some months ago and I will keep using that until microled is in and buyable at a fair price. Oled monitors are decently priced now and I imagine mine will last atleast 5-6 years with little to no burn in as I mainly just use it for gaming and have another monitor for productivity.

Hard to tell with compressed KZfaq video where shadow details does not exist by definition. My first guess is Sample D is MiniLED. And i was right. Black level is just not there. Also i am sure that it would be much more noticable in person, because its still an LCD and they always have backlight leaks if watched from the angle. And for a monitor it is very noticable.

Can you do a monitor review on the hp omen 27qs? its been out for 5 months but no reviews on here at all only threads about it, just wondering if i should get the 27qs or the alienware 2723df or the LG 27gr83qb

I'm waiting as the mini-led technology will be more mature with at least 10000 zones on 27" and without flickering problems. OLED is a NoGo for me as a computer monitor. This technology is great to watch a movie or play a game from time to time but not to work on it 8+ hours per day. Conclusion: OLED TV - yes sure. OLED PC monitor - hell no.

I will answer it before watching. In perfect contidion oled will be better. But in a bright room with natural light there will be no siginicant difference, except the fact you will get a way brighter display from mini leds. Now if you are a pro oleds do have a better response times but for general use. This also depends on the refresh rate of the mini led panel as for example 540hz TN from Asus is generally better than current oleds in motion clarity.

This is by far the best video I have seen on the subject. Some people think OLED is always better and anything else is so much worse. Mini LED has so much potential, just way more zones and better response times.

Very nice video. Yeah the mini led is doing great but you can still figure it out by looking at a bright spot, that backlight still bleeds into the darks that are next to a bright object.

A year back i got a Samsung Neo G7 which is a 32'' 4k 165hz miniled VA with 1200 dimming zones. And its highlights at certain points reach 2000 nits with HDR on. HDR looks amazing, i dont have to worry about burnin, its WAAAAAAAAAAY brighter overall compared to an oled panel and its a perfect size and resolution for my use case. Downsides are... viewing angles are not great, but they arent disgusting either. For me thats not a dealbreaker anyways. I mean i use my monitor head on so yea, got no problems with that. 2nd thing, small bright highlights like dots on pitch black background when local dimming is on, can have a little bit of blooming but thats to be expected with miniled. All in all iam willing to try gen 3 oleds with the same size and resolution when they release next year but my next monitor will probably be a miniled with ~5000 dimming zones.

Curious if Oled is more energy efficient thanks to it's ability to not turn on individual pixels (in addition to having lower Nit brightness capabilities)

Minileds are better with more zones and a higher native contrast ratio. High zone count VA panels are much more appropriate for HDR content. I'd rather have a 1000 zone VA panel vs a 2000 zone IPS panel

Using Innocn hdmi 2.1 monitor with 1152 dimming zones … consider the latest upcoming QD Oled monitor.. but I am concern with the 250nits brightness level limit for well lit rooms

Do you recommend the KTC M27T20 over the MSI G274QPF-QD?

11:50 the pixel size local dimming is basically micro led

The colour fringing on oled is negated by high DPI and scaling. For laptop displays and smaller oled is ideal.

M32P10 has 1152 dimming zones which is more than double, so I bet it's getting into imperceivable territory if larger bright objects are already hard to distinguish between mini-LED and OLED.

Fantastic video, very informative thanks for it:). 1 tip to consider, perhaps lose the “Gerald Undone” look away. Once I saw it I became more focused on when you would do it next, than listening to the content:).

I have 2 LG C2's a 77" in our family room and a 48" that I use as my gaming monitor, we also have a 65" Hisense U8H mini LED in our bedroom. I love my C2's I think they are worth every penny I paid for them, that being said the Hisense is the without a doubt the best bang for the buck. The mini LED is so bright, I had to adjust the brightness down, the blacks while not as good as the true black on the C2 is the best I've seen on any other TV. Had I bought the U8H first, I would have bought the largest version for our family room and I wouldn't have regretted it. So take that for what it's worth, if you are looking for value you might want to go with a high-end mini LED, if you are going for the absolute best money can buy then go with the OLED.

Can you test the msi 24c4 E2?

I got a Neo G8 recently and the 1196 zones is an absolutely huge upgrade over any edge-lit display. It makes me wonder how many you'll need before Mini-LED can look the same as OLED. It's basically a race as to whether Mini-LED can get enough zones or whether OLED can fix it's issues.

Its tricky, I would like to use OLED, because its faster for gaming. If Mini-LED becomes so good, that there is no percievable difference with blooming, it will be the new default. Hopefully Mini-LED can keep up with the Refreshrates.

Im not gonna lie, there is way too much distortion in this video to even tell the differences in black, not even the oleds are coming up as black in the video Viewing from my own oled

I could easily tell which one is the VA and which one is the Mini LED. I just had to turn my phone's brightness to max, 2 in the monrning and it feels like someone threw a flashbang at me. Thanks techless 😁

Even though you sacrifice contrast, I usually used my cooler master miniled monitor without the backlight or set to minimum. I'd rather have a bit less contract, but basically no distractions, because I found the blooming way to distracting with anything higher than minimal backlight dimming set.

very fair and balanced assessment of the different tech i love OLED but i find it annoying how some famboys act as if the tech is perfect and all of the downsides were not valid points of criticism regarding LCDs, they can look great with good blacks during day with lots of ambient light; but i tend to watch movies and game in dimly lit environemnts and thats always where (even good miniLED) LCDs completely fall apart for me

I had a Samsung Neo G7 and I loved and hated it in equal measure. Strongly dislike the curve, which as a monitor for productivity and graphic design, made it very difficult to really have an understanding of how my image was actually look on a flat screen. Blooming is a massive issue. What good is contrast if scenes with challenging white and black differences become a chore for the dimmng algorithm to make sense of? I made the mistake of watching The Expanse on my Neo G7 thinking that those inky blacks of space would look so great, and it was a horrible experience. Small bright spots, even with 1100+ dimming zones would blow out the surrounding darkness, making it every bit as noticable as backlight bleed or VA "smear". Also, because color accuracy often degrades when dimming and HDR are turned on, i would often leave these off for desktop use and it made me feel like a fool. The ultimate goal for a monitor in my eyes is to be absolutely a swiss army knife. If i have to baby it or finangle with the settings for every single use case, it becomes an annoyance. Improved zone counts will help, but mini led still relies on hdr to look good, whereas a bunch of the OLEDs I've used look great no matter what you throw at them.

I am so happy I got my LG 27" OLED. Comparing the Omen x25f to it makes the tn panel look like a washed out flashback from a movie or anime

The oled black crush in the first couple seconds practically deleting some of the cherrys. Oleds are great but they def have drawbacks too

I just got the ktc H27T22 but seeing all these sales making me think i picked wrong anyone have any better recommendations ?

From my perspective, OLED technology has faced criticism for its susceptibility to burn-in, but it's important to consider the broader context of this issue. Human nature predisposes us to focus more on negative aspects and potential threats, which in this case, amplifies the perceived problem of burn-in with OLED. Moreover, it's worth noting the competitive dynamics in the display market, where LCD manufacturers have a vested interest in highlighting the drawbacks of OLED technology to maintain their market position (against LG and now Samsung). However, a key point often overlooked is the widespread adoption of OLED screens in smartphones. Despite the fact that most phone displays are OLED, concerns about burn-in are notably absent. This discrepancy is intriguing, especially when considering that, according to recent data, the average person spends around 3 hours and 15 minutes on their phone daily, often interacting with static UI elements - a scenario seemingly ripe for burn-in. This leads to an interesting observation: the issue of burn-in with OLEDs might be more of a theoretical concern than a practical one. In reality, the average consumer is likely to upgrade their TV or monitor long before any significant burn-in becomes apparent. Thus, while the concern over OLED burn-in isn't unfounded, it is perhaps exaggerated, both due to human psychological tendencies and competitive pressures in the display industry. Sincerely yours, a happy owner of LG C8 for 5 years.

Regarding the question you posed at the end: it is my personal believe that once QDEL (Quantum Dot Electro Luminescence) actually becomes viable to mass-produce, it's going to quickly displace all existing panel technologies on the market. It has basically all the benefits of QD-OLED, but without the burn-in issues. Plus, if Sharp and Nanosys are to be believed, it should be as easy and as cheap to produce as existing LCD panels, no specialized equipment needed... And to go a little bit in the beginning, where you mentioned it's pretty hard to identify each of the 4 panel types: If you know what to look for you can tell them apart. There was barely any blooming on the MiniLED panel, but if one looks close enough it can be spotted, the VA panel without local dimming is (as you mentioned) very obvious and from the remaining two, it's a matter of elimination. QD-OLED has way superior yellows over WOLED, so it was pretty easy to tell which of the 3 with perfect blacks was the WOLED :D

The problem with miniled pc monitors is that local dimming is not working well in SDR, only in HDR. And as most movies and tv series are in SDR well... That's the experience I had with the KTC 27" 1440p VA miniled at least.

mini-LED is ramping up in zones amounts, 27" 4K 5000 zones monitors are already announced. 384 zones mini-LED monitors are just the first gen, next gen is almost here and 2024 will be a battle vs OLED and mini-LED.

Hey! what about gaming? if you take the KTC at 144hz and the oled at the same refresh rate (you as a fps player), is it very noticeable the difference in response time, etc? Thank you!

now if you had INNOCN 27M2V which has more than 1000 local dimming zones... it would have been very interesting FR

I have the KTC 27" miniLED monitor and i am totally satisfied. Great brightness 🔅 (its really bright) and no tearing anymore. Perfect for gaming and regular use. Its half the price of an OLED monitor. OLEDs are flickering in dark areas if you game 🎮

is there a chance to review the ktc m32p10 monitor

Me avoiding oled because of burn in : Also me 1 year after I bought a VA panel and I see my whole taskbar printed on it : 👁👄👁

I have a 34" ultrawide OLED monitor for gaming, but I also use a laptop for watching movies and general media consumption. Right now I'm still using my old IPS laptop, but I am looking to upgrade that. Just not sure if I should go with OLED or Mini-LED. What do you recommend, if image quality is the utmost priority?

Mico led will make OLED obsolete, but that's still a few years to a decade away. Monitors with >2000 zones already close the gap extremely well and great for monitors due to no worry about burn-in. I do too much productivity work to have an OLED for a monitor, so the PG32UQX works well for me. I really want a mini-led ultrawide ips, but for some reason that is taking forever to come out.

The only benefits with Miniled is overall brightness and not have the risk of it burning it. My pick would still be OLED for now, but would rather hold on until we have Microled wich is basically the best of both worlds since every pixel lights up individually (Just like OLED), but eliminates the risk to burn in and is overall brighter.

So basically mini LED needs more dimming zones/ better or more filters.

How is one suppose to compare the tv picture on video playing on their? The picture is the one your tv produces not the ones being discussed. If I can see the difference between MiniLEd and OLEF on my 15 year old tv that is neither, then it can’t be that great as my old TV reproduced the blacks. But great video and explanation. Thanks

4:18 how did you simulate the backlighting animations with different zone counts as a monochrome output? looks pretty insane tbh and hard to come by such a nice illustration!

"how often you going to have an OLED display next to a mLED one". Right here. I have a Legion 9i with a mLED and my fiance has an ASUS Studiobook 16 w/ OLED. With certain dark scenes, the Legion 9i screen looks like you are watching through fog, because of all the blooming. And I believe the Levono mLED has one of the higher dimming zone display on the PC side.

Is there any miniLED monitor with glossy finish?

i got the traditional LCD and mini LED LCD right but i mixed WOLED and QDOLED

im swapping to Mini LED. I love my OLED and it looks insane but I now use my desktop for other apps and not pure gaming anymore but still want that HDR experience on the games I do own with HDR support. Burn in is seriously still an issue and RTings new vid prove it, especially for QD OLED and QD OLED monitors like I have. Looking at on with 1152 zones.

Can you please review Dell G2524H monitor? Even if you don't have a chance to review it, can you tell me your opinions about this monitor, it is very cheap in my country?

It is unquestionably worse, however it’s a clear improvement. It can’t ever match contrast and black levels due to how it works though.

Even today technology is still trying to catch up with some qualities of CRT monitors like zero lag and perfect motion clarity. However I appreciate not having to mess with screen geometry.

I'm using an 40 inch Samsung QC90 as monitor, sometimes I kind of regret not buying an LG C1, C2 ou G2. As a TV, honestly is already there for me, the smaller models of the QC90 use a VA panel with bad viewing angles, so if you are slightly off angle you will get a lot of blooming and slightly worse colors, Wich bothers me when using it on windows from too close. But when I lay down and use it to watch movies it is awesome, the VA really stops blooming when looking straight on, and brightness is also great, for HDR content I turn it up, but for SDR and desktop usage I rarely go above 50%. For desktop usage I usually turn local dimming to the minimum (it is not possible to turn off without service menu), Wich pretty much turns it into a single zone, with back-light as strong as needed for the brightest spot on the screen, honestly if not for the viewing angles I'd be 100% happy with it. It's not oled but man did I fear burn in. Now I fear the TV mobo dying, that thing gets Hot 😅.

Do you have a website where you archive those tests at 9:12? (it's not in the description)

Personally I prefer the brightness of mini led over the absolute blacks of oled. I actually like to see when I'm playing and not be in complete darkness. Most games I feel the need to up the gamma on anyways. Also oled is like double the price of mini led. The mini led's colors are pretty close in vibrancy to oled to my eyes. Especially when comparing to non mini led and non oled monitors. I also like to have my monitors/tv's last more than 3-5 years. I used to have a plasma TV and burn in was a really bad issue. I know burn in on oled can be reduced or fixed but it basically is reducing the blues overtime. Also the organic nature of oled means it won't last as long. TV and monitor technology is getting so advanced we won't really need anything new for a very long time. Once you get 4k 144hz with vrr your pretty much set for life. The only other thing I'd like is the variable resolution tech that allows you to have native 4k and 1080p on the same display. But I doubt that will come to tv's and I use large displays. Micro led will be superior to anything we have now but it won't be affordable for over a decade. Rumors suggest that 2024 will have better mini led and oled tech but we will have to see. Unless gpus get cheaper and still get better at 4k gaming, I might just have to go back to 1080p 😭

I so wish Sony does their thing again... Their Sony INZONE M9 only had 96 zones and still did insane well for what it had to work with. Give them 1000 to 5000 zones, I bet they can pull it off to be called* "OLED monitors" in normal day to day content!

I think Apple found “user acceptable” number of dimming zones in pro MacBooks. This number should be scaled with display size. So for 32inch ultra wide it should me at least 8-10k (as I know 16inch Mac has about 4-5k dimming zones).

oled is excellent technology. nearly perfect in every aspect. the only deterrent is the overblown concern of burning in, which is practically not an issue in most usage cases. oled will not be easily dethroned.

Before the first minute I actually thought the QD-OLED was the miniLED 😂

PLEASE MAKE REVIEW OF Cooler Master Tempest GP27U because i really struggled to fix the colors and with the HDR !!

When I got my iphone12pm I was excited to try out it's OLED screen. To compare, I viewed the same image on my old iphone7pm beside the new phone. To all intents and purposes, they were identical. There may be some difference in the blacks but I could not tell. Moral of the story... Beware marketing hype!!!

Is there a general Problem with freesync and Oled Monitors? My ktc g27p6 flickers in loading screens with freesync on.

I have the KTC M27T20, but in the local dimming settings I don't have the *auto* option, I was wondering if that's on the new firmware or only on the Pro version of the monitor..

something i was always wondering, does Local Dimming work in SDR too or is it restricted to HDR?