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Is My New Kamado Joe Big Joe 3 III Broken?

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Idle Hands

Idle Hands

4 жыл бұрын

In this video, I go over my thoughts on the gasket that is installed improperly as well as the issue I'm having with the lid alignment.
Here is the link to the KAmado forum I talked about.
www.kamadoguru.com/topic/4554...
I hope this helps you out in your search for the perfect grill and or smoker.
To date I have had no help from Kamado Joe Customer Service.

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@dmedeiros81
@dmedeiros81 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the BJ3 and it had a slight overbite, then after one hot pizza cook, I couldn’t unlatch it, overbite grew, and divide and conquer rack hits the lid with slow roller in place. Even when rotated 45 degrees. So I went down the rabbit hole and eventually fixed it. Here is what I did. 1. Loosen airlift hinge as lose as you can. 2. Use the lock assembly and lock the air lift hinge in place for safety. 3. Loosen all hex bolts connecting the hinge assembly to the bands (top and bottom) 12 bolts. Don’t undo them, just very lose so that there is movement. 4. I used a cranking tie down around the grill and bottom third of the air hinge to pull the bottom of the hinge closer to the grill and to make sure the bottom band’s hinge assembly was flush against the band. (This also pulled the lid back a little bit) 5. Once the hinge looked straight up and down, I started tightening the hinge attachments starting with the bottom INNER BOLTS working my way out. They seem to slip, so with my ratchet I tried to mimic an impact gun as I do not have one. This is what worked. It took a lot of sweat. But eventually I got that all tight in the right order. 5. I then wiggled the lid to try and push it back just a little and proceeded to tighten the top hinge attachment (inside bolts first working my way out) same as bottom. 6. Once it was tight I took off the tie down and unlocked the hinge. Adjusted my air lift hinge to my liking. 7. To be safe, I used a torque wrench set to 10 LBS/In and made sure that’s how tight top and bottom bands were. There is still the slightest bit of overbite (just like when it shipped) but now the slow roller does not hit the lid, everything is tight, and I know the ins and outs of this thing when things start to go wrong from time and high heat. I also added a washer to the bottom of the latch system so the overbite was compensated and the lid would smoothly lock itself and unlatch with plenty wiggle room. Hope this helps.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. That sounds great, Unfortunately for me, I got rid of it. It was an eye sore for me personally after they way I was treated by KJ.
@eliseocaden575
@eliseocaden575 3 жыл бұрын
instablaster.
@arabicgelato
@arabicgelato 7 ай бұрын
my BIG 3 have exact same issues, from first FISH grill. Gasket went off, alignment and hinges, Local reseller took it for a month to fix it but after the second grilling its back to zero.
@jb3528
@jb3528 2 жыл бұрын
Idle Hands, thanks for the detailed breakdown and others for the comments. I need to replace an older Vision and was circling this model but I'm pumping the brakes now! This is A LOT of money to spend and not get a proper setup and then not get proper customer service on top of that. Back to the drawing board.
@carlgamble1138
@carlgamble1138 3 жыл бұрын
I believe your problem is with assembly. The first ring that you put in for the smoke roller needs to be rotated 45°. By doing this you will provide clearance when you put in the frame that the grills actually sit on. You can continuous assembly of the smoke roller! When you place the grills on they will no longer be in a north-south configuration they will be about 45° to the right or left from Center. I have the same grill and that’s how I’ve assembled mine I have no clearance problems at all!
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I completely understand what you're saying and I can't wait to try it.
@pablo9130
@pablo9130 3 жыл бұрын
Ceramic, I imagine Is inherently "imperfect." Maybe lid movement pulled the hing during shipping, depending on how it was packaged. For that, of course, we'd need an unboxing video.
@Tearstank
@Tearstank 2 жыл бұрын
With this kind of issue with such an expensive grill I am out. One month to reply to the service request via mail is inacceptable. Support is important! Will go for some other brand then. You still have the issue, seems it has not been sold. Thanks for the heads up.
@stirv6462
@stirv6462 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Great job of documenting the problem. This is complete garbage. Hope they tell you to crank down on those band bolts. I’d use a 1” drive air impact and say whoops. You’ll have to send me a new grill. This is like a dodge vehicle where they can’t figure out how to make a door open without eating its own seal
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
lol... i like the old doge reference and so true
@mclubo
@mclubo 4 жыл бұрын
Got the exact same problem as I’m watching your video. The lid is too far forward. When cooking with slo roller I have to shift the whole rack off the notches as far towards the front of the grill as I can. Trying to find a solution to the whole thing through customer service as well..
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I hate to hear that. And it really stinks because if it wernt for this, I really like smoking with it, but as it is, I cant stand using the slow roller smoke adapter.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I just got an email yesterday, so stay tuned...
@sprokkel30
@sprokkel30 3 жыл бұрын
You have beautiful grass 😊
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@scottdurning4251
@scottdurning4251 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same thing with mine. I just moved my ceramics and ring ahead a bit.
@bombsquadsendersunion2280
@bombsquadsendersunion2280 4 жыл бұрын
I wish mine was that simple. I wish I would have at least gotten an answer like this from @kamadojoe but nope, just crickets.
@bombsquadsendersunion2280
@bombsquadsendersunion2280 4 жыл бұрын
And for this sort of money, fit and finish should be top. Not ... "Hey just move the pieces around even if they are not fitting correctly, heck it will still cook". Unfortunately that's not the correct answer in my opinion.
@scottdurning4251
@scottdurning4251 4 жыл бұрын
Trail Dude yea sorry bout that man. I didn’t read the comments and the bullshit that they’re putting you thru before I posted. I’d be pissed too, and I completely agree....for this price there shouldn’t be any issues.
@bombsquadsendersunion2280
@bombsquadsendersunion2280 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottdurning4251 thanks
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
This stinks. Sorry to hear this.
@jojojaykay
@jojojaykay 3 жыл бұрын
Just got mine today, but I also have the added issues of having cracks in both the firebox parts and the body of the kamado itself...
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
oh wow, that’s not good. did you contact kJ?
@markporter3366
@markporter3366 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mine is the same I found if you move the notches to 45 degrees and push the firebox at but more towards the front by using kitchen roll behind the separate firebox pieces it’s the position of the steel ring on the firebox that he’s to be correct Yes we shouldn’t have to do that at this price point and it’s really annoying try it and let me know how you get on
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I just got an email yesterday, so stay tuned...
@steveguzman6640
@steveguzman6640 3 жыл бұрын
I had lots of problems with my Big Joe II and customer service was very bad. I took my grill back to Costco got my money back.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you could take yours back. I wish I could just return mine too.
@adrianrobles9898
@adrianrobles9898 3 жыл бұрын
I got the same issue than u! My dome over hangs ! Is so off and my ash catcher hardly goes in cause the air flow vent in the bottom is not square !
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I hate to hear that you got it too. There are quite a few that are coming forward about this issue.
@adrianrobles9898
@adrianrobles9898 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully I took all mi pics today,I would email them tomorrow and see what happens I got this kamado in the end of October 2020 literally I cook 4 times on it and putting away for canadian winter inside the garage... 3 weeks ago I want it to clean it and start clocking and I found the fisrt issue the the fire box metal ring got warped and can keep the the fire box together... plus the top vent tower paint is peeling off and bottom air flow vent like.i.mention before didnt hot build properly and is all off and the lost goes on man o got a really defected kamado joe...
@adlerhut4397
@adlerhut4397 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue (overbite?) with a BJ3 I purchased about a month ago. I tried shifting the rings etc but nothing resolved the issue. I contacted Kamado Joe and they wanted to send me a new dome. I dont think the dome is faulty. I think the hinge/spring housing is too far forward on the dome portion with respect to the base portion. Ie. not something I can change. I placed washers between the lower ring and the hinge housing and it now lines up perfect. I have explained this to them and am awaiting an updated response. For now, the alignment issue is "fixed".
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I thought about doing the washer trick, In-fact I saw that in a youtube video some one did on their big green egg. I ended up not doing it because I didn't want to have to "re-engineer" what should have worked from the factory.
@adlerhut4397
@adlerhut4397 3 жыл бұрын
@@idlehands8942 I don't disagree with you with respect to "re-engineering" what should have worked from the factory. KJ is sending me a new hinge assembly, but in the meantime I really just want to eat=)
@jpg.387
@jpg.387 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious, to install the washer, you had to completely remove the hinge system, right? Just want to make sure I don't make my problem worst if I try anything... Very frustrating to have to do this - not having to do any assembly was a big reason why I chose KJ over Green Egg...
@adlerhut4397
@adlerhut4397 3 жыл бұрын
@@jpg.387 Its been a few months so I do not recall if I had to take the whole thing off or just loosen up the top 6 nuts and remove the bottom 6 nuts. That being said, when I was trying to figure out what was going on I definitely took off the entire hinge a few times. Its honestly not a huge task. Just be sure to use the items that came with your Joe which lock the spring down and you're good to go wrt safety. This "fix" is still working fyi.
@NevadaScrubJay
@NevadaScrubJay 2 жыл бұрын
This is now two years latter... Can you give an update to this problem.??? I have seen other videos where that sealing ring has come loose after a year or so. Did the Smoking Dad alignment video help? I am just about ready to pull the trigger on buying one of these bad boys. I have looked at a dozen or so other Kamado grills and the Joe seems to have more features and followers/buyers. My guess is that it is the best for the price. Thanks..
@NevadaScrubJay
@NevadaScrubJay 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading through all the comments and see that you sold it... That is a bummer... But, I will look to see that everything is aligned when I put mine together. It looks like and additional washer or two on the hinge assembly might be the easy fix. Did you buy something else? It would be great to see a video on your new BBQ system. And, your comments now that you have had time to process everything and cool down.
@richardkauffman6297
@richardkauffman6297 3 жыл бұрын
first cook w the slow roller and have the exact same problem ... lid slightly forward and gasket not aligned properly ... ugh
@richardkauffman6297
@richardkauffman6297 3 жыл бұрын
moved the firebox all of the way forward (not centered at all) fixed the problem of rubbing rack on gasket ... but shouldn't have to do this with such an expensive unit
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, this is unacceptable for the price of this grill
@jasabis
@jasabis 3 жыл бұрын
I just got off the phone with Kamado Joe because i am having the same issue. I used your video to demonstrate the problem. They are going to send it to their engineers and come back with a solution! Will keep you posted.... unless you already fixed yours?
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome. Really, I cant believe someone got back to you. Im glad this video helped you. Please keep me posted.
@jasabis
@jasabis 3 жыл бұрын
@@idlehands8942 I gave them good reason to call me back. 😜 Will keep u up to speed!
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasabis So awesome!
@jasabis
@jasabis 3 жыл бұрын
@@idlehands8942 update, they called me today and have acknowledged that they are receiving the complaint more and more. They still don’t have an answer but assured they are working on a resolution. They said it is an issue with the factory. They said in the meantime, turn everything 45 degrees and it won’t run as a temporary solution.
@jasabis
@jasabis 3 жыл бұрын
@@idlehands8942 they sent me a new gasket. They think factory put the gasket on wrong. Asked me to try replacing. Would you be interested in getting a free gasket and testing the solution? You are more mechanically inclined than I am!
@bombsquadsendersunion2280
@bombsquadsendersunion2280 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, pretty crazy for such a high ticket item to have an issue like that... yikes!
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@scruffo1405
@scruffo1405 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem with my big joe 3 i received a week before xmas,my lid is that far forward the latch doesn't hold properly no matter how much i adjust the latch using the small allen key to the point that the lid will constantly unlatch on its own during cooks. Has anyone had any luck yet from KJ.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I havent heard anything lately.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I am really sorry to hear this. I really wish they would get their shit together
@michaelhadel5219
@michaelhadel5219 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to know if they ever get back to you. I’m wanting to purchase a big joe three as well but am terrified of their customer service.
@bombsquadsendersunion2280
@bombsquadsendersunion2280 4 жыл бұрын
Well, they have not gotten back to me on mine. Why would anyone elses be any different?
@bombsquadsendersunion2280
@bombsquadsendersunion2280 4 жыл бұрын
If I had it to do over at the moment, I don't think I would have gone with the kamado Joe brand. I Probably would have looked harder at the primo XL or other
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 4 жыл бұрын
No, they never got back to me either. I slightly pissed and worried what will happen when it is actually broken and I have to try to deal with the customer service again. They definitely don't make it easy and if you read the warranty, it's not very reassuring to me.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I just got an email yesterday, so stay tuned...
@michaelhadel5219
@michaelhadel5219 3 жыл бұрын
@@idlehands8942 any result from KJ support?
@Allegedly2right
@Allegedly2right 3 жыл бұрын
If you don’t complain they think you are happy,because you are the first to complain,so everyone else is Happy.Strange but true
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
i dont think i follow.
@Allegedly2right
@Allegedly2right 3 жыл бұрын
No one has complained so they must be content Happy no problem no complaints
@jasonenlow2662
@jasonenlow2662 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem with mine.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
well, that sucks. Looks like its not just an isolated issue
@mannyr8795
@mannyr8795 3 жыл бұрын
This video just put the brakes on me. I was leaning to an akorn kamado (though cheaper, it’s bullet proof) which is a better price point but doesn’t hold the temp the ceramics hold as easier. I was considering the classic joe 3 as I don’t need the extra real estate. Any idea is the same issue presents with the little brother of big joe?
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I have no real experience with the others yet, but I have heard of similar issues. But to be fair, KJ just emailed me 2 days ago and apologized for the "glitch" in their system that kept them from seeing my emails.
@mannyr8795
@mannyr8795 3 жыл бұрын
@@idlehands8942 nice but will they actually help you out? Hope they do man.
@mannyr8795
@mannyr8795 3 жыл бұрын
Bit the bullet and got the Classic III. Happy as a clown. I had them send me new latch and top vent (I initially thought it was sluggish to move) and got them ASAP. Awesome customer service.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, just seeing this. I got them to send me a new hinge too, but I got rid of that grill. I was really put off by their quality control and lack of customer service.
@mannyr8795
@mannyr8795 Жыл бұрын
Too bad. I really think you getting in there and tweaking the hinge is what got you into trouble. Got many friends now some with big Joe’s that have absolutely no issues. Hope you didn’t go back to gas grilling😂
@steveguzman6640
@steveguzman6640 3 жыл бұрын
Is your hinge level? Put a level on it to see how far it's off. It does look to be off.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is not level. and that is definitely part of the problem. I did not even use it to lift the grill when getting it off the pallet and onto the stand.
@steveguzman6640
@steveguzman6640 3 жыл бұрын
I just installed a hing on a big joe and I learned a lot of how it works.
@financiacion-privada869
@financiacion-privada869 Ай бұрын
Too expensive tool for building queality issues... Did Big Joe solve it since your video claim?
@FixableHQ
@FixableHQ 3 жыл бұрын
Hi , any update? I got the same issue
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
Still nothing, IIm making a new video about this and the entire customer service that I have been through along the way so others arnt dooped a bad purchase.
@suicidebrain
@suicidebrain 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! did you manage to solve the problem?
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
Not with the company and unfortunately I cant just get Paypal to reverse the charges because I purchased this unit from a KJ dealer. That means that if I reversed the charges the person selling the KJ stuff is then on the hook and I did not feel that was the right thing to do. It wasnt the Grill stores fault. But thats the long answer. Hope this helped
@suicidebrain
@suicidebrain 3 жыл бұрын
@@idlehands8942 I hope you are suffering from this only from an aesthetic point of view and still enjoy eating and cooking on kamado jo! Good luck and Happy New Year!
@ImHungryMK
@ImHungryMK 3 жыл бұрын
Any updates?
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
Well, They ended up sending me a new upper and lower band with a new hinge. I didnt try it, I ended up getting rid of it. It honestly just ate at me inside that the company treated me the way they did after buying such a high ticket item so I got rid of it. They ignored me until this video go so many views or maybe it was one of the many other people that had purchased this grill had the same issue. This other gentleman reached out to me and said that they had finally got back to him finally. I asked how he got their attention and he replied something to this effect- I gave them a REALLY good reason. I was also put off that I just paid so much and now I have to perform actual maintenance on it. What if a vehicle manufacturer just gave new parts to a customer for when their new vehicle had a issue, then the customer was supposed to do the labor. They probably would be in business very long. Now Im in the market for a new grill.
@wakeywarrior
@wakeywarrior 3 жыл бұрын
That’s no good they need to replace that!
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@CrispyOkra
@CrispyOkra 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't you say you got a "great deal" on this grill? Perhaps this is why? If you still have this grill and issue, the following may help. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p719adB30MzSnX0.html
@thedude4241
@thedude4241 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this completely turned me off from buying a kamado joe. It’s too expensive to not be perfect.
@bombsquadsendersunion2280
@bombsquadsendersunion2280 3 жыл бұрын
If I would’ve seen a video like this before I purchased mine I would have stopped and not done it.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, I am now in the position to get another grill and it definitely is NOT going to be a KJ.
@idlehands8942
@idlehands8942 3 жыл бұрын
me too Dude
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