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Is Narcissism Mostly Unconscious?

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Surviving Narcissism

Surviving Narcissism

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The attitudes and behaviors of narcissists can become so unworkable that you wonder if they are truly choosing such a contrarian way of life. While acknowledging that choice is indeed involved, Dr. Les Carter explains how so many narcissists have deeply buried motives pushing their behaviors. They want to label you as the problem, but they are often clueless about why they are what they are.
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@impaktstories
@impaktstories Жыл бұрын
Another way to spot a narcissist: the second you begin to be anything but 100% compliant in the relationship the devaluing begins.
@josereyes1148
@josereyes1148 Жыл бұрын
My narcissist friend goes on and on about work problems. I'm talking like every other day he complains for 15 min about work. I complained about my work problems like maybe 10 minutes a month total. He then brought up his boring dream and wanted to talk about it and analyze it with me. (I think narcs think everything about them is so fascinating and amazing to people). I didn't give him the attention he was craving so he went off on me and started mocking me about my work problems. Making it sound like he puts up w that so I should listen to him now. Even though he complains about work 90% more than me. It's all a mess. First chance he got he threw it in my face because I didn't agree w him for 35 min about his dream. He's such a mess.
@AAA-kr7nh
@AAA-kr7nh Жыл бұрын
Spot on.The devaluating of me started once I dared to call him out on his lies that somehow were my fault! That's from where the devaluating started for good and I believe that is when he started cheating on me because I wasn't the good supply anymore.
@mattlehnardt783
@mattlehnardt783 Жыл бұрын
and when you're 1 to 3 years old, and your mom is a narc who abandons you emotionally, i.e. the "still-face experiment" on the internet, and never returns or even tries to fix it or even get what impact that has on you? what about when you're 1 to 3 years old, and mom and dad are your "Gods" to establish you in connection in the world as a YOU, with THEM, so you feel you are at a 'home'. with someone central to who you are. and they devalue you even before you start. and hang onto that grudge against you for ??? stuff you don't even know, their own issues, and you need them to develop a 'self' in the world? just for being you they ditch you as a baby. and don't recognize you or come back emotionally. same house, meals, laundry, everything technical is happening, but almost no emotional food happening, except for being blamed for the disconnection they hold on to. yeah this is where mental illness comes from and homelessness.
@ingrid3578
@ingrid3578 Жыл бұрын
Yup they are dictators. Your job is to do exactly as they say and fit the mold they’ve created for you. They don’t give a damn about anyone else. You’re just a prop to further their own agenda. The moment you express yourself, which humans tend to do, shit goes south real quick. They will rage.
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334 Жыл бұрын
Just re re blocked a "friend" like this. Deeply regret unblocking after almost a decade. They don't change. They pretend to until you "trust" them again and then they attack you, again. NC immediately, NC forever is my new policy. No second chances. You give me that sick angry humiliated feeling ONE time, and we're done. I have enough scars and seeping open wounds that never close already.
@dragonmom495
@dragonmom495 Жыл бұрын
They know how to act in public. They can control it very very well. Know exactly what they are up to.
@spaideman7850
@spaideman7850 Жыл бұрын
In public eyes narc are the most pity, most holy, most misunderstood creature bullied by by others. Those who really know them will shun them like ghost.
@andrewsmith3257
@andrewsmith3257 Жыл бұрын
​@@spaideman7850 living with one. They are antagonistic demons in most cases
@nancykaczmarz8874
@nancykaczmarz8874 Жыл бұрын
Dr Jackie mr hyde!
@deborahmullen6312
@deborahmullen6312 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Thay can make YOU look like the bad guy!
@ND-or5so
@ND-or5so Жыл бұрын
dragonmom: But at home they fall out of order. You get a cray cray that is retarded
@olazet3069
@olazet3069 Жыл бұрын
My therapist taught me a very fine lesson: having a narcissist in your life is like being a recovering alcoholic. Just like a non-drinking alcoholic needs to be on guard all the time, you have to remember a set of rules each time you’re interacting with a narcissist. Stick to your strategies, remind yourself of your self worth, don’t let them use you for their emotional regulation. It hurts when it’s your parent but it’s the only think you can do to remain sane: not to forget who you are dealing with.
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism Жыл бұрын
You can let your therapist know that I completely agree with this approach!!
@olazet3069
@olazet3069 Жыл бұрын
@@SurvivingNarcissism Thank you for your response doctor C! I finished my therapy some time ago - Surviving Narcissism is the place I go when I need to find inspiration and strength. Thank you for being there for us!
@hilarysherman591
@hilarysherman591 Жыл бұрын
He knows it's wrong. He hides it from people that would think badly of him if they saw how he treats his family. If brought to his attention, he would rationalize the behavior. He's never wrong. Never.
@realhealing7802
@realhealing7802 Жыл бұрын
Narcissists are never wrong. It's always someone else fault. As if the are perfect!
@LisaPFrampton
@LisaPFrampton Жыл бұрын
Good way to put it. He behaves badly in front of those that he knows supports his behaviors, and puts on an act in front of those who he's afraid will judge him.
@LisaPFrampton
@LisaPFrampton Жыл бұрын
​@@realhealing7802 oh but they'll say "I'm not perfect" or "nobody's perfect" but they'll NEVER admit to any one imperfection they have or any wrongs they've done! They can't name them, won't admit to them, and will not sincerely apologize or correct any of their behavior or treatment to others!
@killadjango6995
@killadjango6995 Жыл бұрын
they're cowards at heart, simply pathetic!
@TerriTemple
@TerriTemple Жыл бұрын
excellent point. they know.
@thescapegoatclub
@thescapegoatclub Жыл бұрын
This is such an important point for empaths who are dealing with narcissism. We can excuse a lot of things if we feel they are unconscious or uncontrollable. It keeps us in the toxic loop.
@kfcphtb21
@kfcphtb21 Жыл бұрын
Or drowning in toxic soup!
@bereal6590
@bereal6590 Жыл бұрын
100%, it keeps you in the but oh they had such a terrible childhood themselves and they're just fragile etc.. but what I failed to think was how damaging they've been to me. Do they have those same thoughts and empathy for me, ABSOLUTELY NOT! They think they're the best parents ever. Accepting their behaviour whilst being punished for my own, validating them whilst being invalidated. Now Now see why I didn't understand what self compassion was
@debbiedegenhardt9287
@debbiedegenhardt9287 Жыл бұрын
Your response resonated with me since I've been very, no, too forgiving and accepting of my husband's behavior. People have told me I'm too nice and have have let him get away with too much as far as gaslighting, blame shifting, and redirecting. They were right. And after 18 years of marriage I finally followed through on my threat to divorce him. On one hand I feel like I'm abandoning a mentally unwell man, and on the other, I need to reclaim my sanity and self worth. I used to gaslight myself by saying things like, "At least he doesn't hit me." But the psychological scars that he's inflicted on me are far worse than a physical scar could have been. He's stalled the divorce proceedings, because he would rather stay in the house I paid for. Not because he loves me and can't live without me, but in his words, "You know, I don't like change." 😞
@NeonCicada
@NeonCicada Жыл бұрын
Self-identifying as "empaths" is a common form of narcissistic virtue signaling online. _“Being against evil doesn't make you good."_ -- quote by Ernest Hemingway
@thescapegoatclub
@thescapegoatclub Жыл бұрын
@@debbiedegenhardt9287 you deserve a loving, supportive and respectful partner. If he has a mental illness, he is responsible for getting help for it. That’s not your job. He knows your concerns about the relationship and is choosing to ignore them and the consequences that go with it. Good luck, it’s hard but looking after you does not reflect badly on who you are. It shows strength, wisdom and courage. Good luck! 💚
@tombuddy100
@tombuddy100 Жыл бұрын
"these individuals are unable to fix what they are too ashamed to see or examine" Exactly!
@NeonCicada
@NeonCicada Жыл бұрын
That statement could _(quite literally)_ be said about anyone/anything; as it even applies to other aspects of everyday life. Sometimes, people will muddy the waters -- just to make them seem deep.
@ChicagoHOG27
@ChicagoHOG27 Жыл бұрын
I honed in on that, too.
@kfcphtb21
@kfcphtb21 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how they have self control in front of certain people…..but can bully you behind closed doors! So I believe they do know what they are doing aaaaand that what they do/say is highly inappropriate!
@MKCarol-ms7lg
@MKCarol-ms7lg Жыл бұрын
They BELIEVE they are justified because they believe you need their bullying. It's the way they see their world which was figured out before they could rationalize as an adult would. Very little to no conscious thought now, it's just how things are.
@joannageorge7305
@joannageorge7305 Жыл бұрын
This fact condemns them more than anything else could.
@carparthero
@carparthero Жыл бұрын
the most despicable thing about a narcissist is that they know exactly what they’re doing and know it’s wrong and they simply don’t care. once you know you're with a narcissist, the biggest mistake you'll ever make with a narcissist is thinking you could call them out, forgive them, show them kindness and think they would change and become a better person. it'll only escalate the abuse. cheers from southern ontario, canada 🍁
@christinelamb1167
@christinelamb1167 Жыл бұрын
Yep, they will NEVER change, the rewards they get from their behavior is too satisfying, and they don't care whatsoever about hurting others. In fact, they love it!
@arelisasteasuainzarra6220
@arelisasteasuainzarra6220 Жыл бұрын
Yes they don’t care they are the Devil’s Child
@christinelamb1167
@christinelamb1167 Жыл бұрын
@@arelisasteasuainzarra6220 That's exactly it!
@olyooshka
@olyooshka Жыл бұрын
Very true.
@rppope1006
@rppope1006 Жыл бұрын
Her abuse started at age 3 towards me. She was supposed to be my mom. Almost 3 full decades later and she still does it. The beautiful thing is I have never forgiven her and to my understanding knew it would continue. Shes a failure of a human being.
@realhealing7802
@realhealing7802 Жыл бұрын
I had to let go of my narcissistic family to survive. I thought I was losing my mind. Staying in unhealthy relationships will cause serious damage.
@spaideman7850
@spaideman7850 Жыл бұрын
yes, my mind and blood pressure will explode if i live with my narc mom. she's a chronic liar and love to play family politics, mind games, emotion control tears games, to make herself the center of the universe.
@rockerdad2
@rockerdad2 Жыл бұрын
Man, this is so true. since they never change its important to slide away and take care of our own mental health and life. It can become to the point that life is destroyed unless you take it back. Didnt know what this all was untill late in life. stay well your on the right path!
@hannahisabel8015
@hannahisabel8015 Жыл бұрын
I had a falling out with a “friend” I babysat for. She cursed me out because I resigned from my babysitting position, the other 2 friends, mind you they are ALL 7+ years older than me, became quickly enmeshed with one another. The old me would’ve fed into that and apologized to keep this toxic friend group. Now, I simply withdrew because I trusted my instinct which I felt all along. 30 y/o women acting like we’re in highschool? No thanks.
@lindabell2940
@lindabell2940 Жыл бұрын
That's what i said, people or not dummies, they can see how you robot children, or, cold blooded, thats right we or not kids no more, you just cant keep doing this, cause i will go happy ass on ,man or woman, dont jack with me, im not a kid, and yea buddy, you got your whore dog girls, nasty, leave them so called mean girls alone, hang on for dear life, you get you a girl narcissist, run, you let the dogs out, shame on these nuts, shame on me, me bad,
@carolnahigian9518
@carolnahigian9518 Жыл бұрын
I baby sat once* the Mother went frim Calmly correcting me for " SNACKING IN FRONT OF MY CHILD- So rude"! to a RANTING RAVING DEMO OF " Why I will never RESPECT you & your beneath Low Contempt"! what a SEWER she has for a mouth.
@hannahisabel8015
@hannahisabel8015 Жыл бұрын
@@carolnahigian9518 oh yes complete sewer mouth. She didn’t hold back.
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet Жыл бұрын
That is unfortunate but bad behavior doesn't always mean someone is a narcissist. People forget that narcissism is a pattern of specific behaviors.
@hannahisabel8015
@hannahisabel8015 Жыл бұрын
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet Dr. Carters videos don’t just help me recognize narc behavior. He teaches on respect, civility, and dignity so his teachings at this point go beyond narcissism. Everyone has narcissistic traits. Toxic behavior is toxic behavior
@ModernVintage31
@ModernVintage31 Жыл бұрын
I think their state of being narcissistic is mostly unconscious, however their actions are not. There’s a lot of talk about lack of impulse control and I can understand that to a point. However, choices made in a microsecond, without proper reflection, are still choices. Remember, they keep their awful behaviors hidden from the people whose disapproval could negatively impact them. That is a strategic, and I believe, conscious choice.
@tombuddy100
@tombuddy100 Жыл бұрын
Right, in public, or when more people are around, they tend to be much more careful about their behavior and what they say. At home, they relax much more and tend to do a lot of nagging, cussing, blaming, scolding people close to them, trying to control them, requiring detailed account of where they have been and with whom they have spoken what, pretending they do not understand when those people try to reason with them, etc.
@killadjango6995
@killadjango6995 Жыл бұрын
agreed 💯 they literally have no sense of who they are. their entire existence is based on the approval of people who don't matter, its pathetic.
@stevenborham1584
@stevenborham1584 Жыл бұрын
Very true, thank you.
@skellingtonmeteoryballoon
@skellingtonmeteoryballoon Жыл бұрын
but what about when “whose disapproval could impact them negatively” are actually complete strangers who probably dont even realize the particular narcissist is even existing and considering them in their efforts to hide etc.? its like the same thing but not exactly strategic.
@MKCarol-ms7lg
@MKCarol-ms7lg Жыл бұрын
"Conscious choices" or a lifestyle. Reflexes are not choices. Their behavior is based on a history which they have mentally avoided for years leaving them with bad reflexes.
@laurenlowery5799
@laurenlowery5799 Жыл бұрын
I have an older sister who is a narcissist. I honestly think she is evil. Absolutely she knows what she does and takes great joy in it. I've actually seen her snicker when she has said something to me that she knows is very hurtful. I no longer see her. She has reached out to me several times with no success. I won't be around her toxicity/entitlement/evilness any longer.
@treelover1050
@treelover1050 Жыл бұрын
I'M GLAD YOU REFUSE TO SEE HER. YOU DESERVE BETTER.
@carolnahigian9518
@carolnahigian9518 Жыл бұрын
We have 2 cousins who throw Word bombs at wedding events " hi Carol are you AUTISTIC?"" really rude, then SMIRK..
@realhealing7802
@realhealing7802 Жыл бұрын
I have an older evil sibling. I had to go no contact to save my mental and physical health.
@jacquelinefroehle5868
@jacquelinefroehle5868 Жыл бұрын
Same here...Older sister is a Narcissistic Alocholic and a sister younger than I am was an alcoholic. Those two loved to gang up on me....I don't drink, and I decided No Contact with them years ago.
@ek9348
@ek9348 Жыл бұрын
I completely understand. 3 years ago my oldest sister crossed the line wayyyy over. And I asked myself: when is enough enough? and I went no contact. I'm done after 47 years of feeling guilty, powerless and depressed. She tried in different ways to real me in again, but zero respons from me. It's purely out of self protection we need to take these extreme actions. Don't feel guitly about it and enjoy being free from all the drama and toxicity!
@misottovoce
@misottovoce Жыл бұрын
My 82 year old negligent covert narc husband is an emotional toddler. He did indeed experience traumatic situations in his very early life. Not even 4 years old and subjected to public humiliation and laughed at. Parents not really 'present' for him, shoved off early to an internat and then later to another in an other country and told what to study by his father 'or else you are on the street'. Everything you mentioned about arrested emotional devlopment is so spot on...he is perversely happiest when he can play the victim even when it simply is not logical. And like you mentioned, he just doesn't grasp that my reactions to him (or others in his life) could possibly be because of his poor behaviour. They are incapable of inner reflection. No, their mind is permanently in the comfort zone of blaming others and throwing frequent and loud pity parties. In spite of knowing about his early life, I no longer 'make excuses' for him. I set my boundries, sometimes daily and when he starts his word salad and craziness, I just tell him I'm not into his round and round debates and I just leave the room. Too busy with life to put up with it. Thank you so much Dr. Carter for all your work. Such a blessing you are!
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism Жыл бұрын
Keep learning!!
@jenniferkrumm4280
@jenniferkrumm4280 9 ай бұрын
This is so close to my experience. Thank you for putting it so well. ❤
@konbonwa
@konbonwa Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this interior look at the narcissist and how they are unconsciously motivated by displacing their feelings because they cannot deal with them internally. But I don't understand how the narcissist can berate their mate or their child and then just a minute later be very charming to a friend or neighbor. It would seem that the narcissist is consciously choosing who they victimize on some level.
@tombuddy100
@tombuddy100 Жыл бұрын
They want to maintain clean image with people they like or consider valuable, whereas they do not care about their image with people they dislike and do not find valuable. They are very short-sighted, tend to burn bridges, and do not anticipate what might be beneficial in the long run.
@lemostjoyousrenegade
@lemostjoyousrenegade Жыл бұрын
Precisely! 🎯❗️❗️❗️
@ingrid3578
@ingrid3578 Жыл бұрын
They are cowards down the their very core. Fear-based cowardice is central to their character. They absolutely know what they’re doing. They know only certain people in their life would put up with their horrific behaviour. My dad’s evil sister (he was also highly narcissistic) carefully selects her victims, my mom being one of them. My mom is the most timid, kind, generous person who could never hurt a fly, and you bet my aunt would bully her, criticize her, ask her for ridiculous favours, give all kinds of unsolicited advice, ask highly inappropriate questions, and basically treat her like the piece of garbage that she views her as. But to other family members she is an angel. These people are masters at managing own public image. They are their own PR team.
@izawaniek2568
@izawaniek2568 Жыл бұрын
Narcisists are too ashamed to introspect and fix their internal problems which they Project onto others, they are stuck in their development and therefore enviously detest life and the truth which are constantly in creation mode. Narcisists in the positions of power are a formula for disaster. Thank you for your words of wisdom dr Carter❤
@killadjango6995
@killadjango6995 Жыл бұрын
agreed 💯💯🎯
@ayesha8809
@ayesha8809 Жыл бұрын
No it is not mostly unconscious. I have witnessed with my own eyes and ears confessions from narcissists about what they knew to be wrong. They just can't deal with the crippling shame so double down instead but they are 100% aware of when they hurt others. We need to stop giving people a pass and hold them accountable instead. Bullies have gotten away with too much.
@soumyajoseph7429
@soumyajoseph7429 Жыл бұрын
Agree, it's not unconscious because they behave differently in public. And, also agree, the malignant narc has a dark and intellectual empathy - that is they have empathy and misuse it because they don't care and want B-grade supply by hurting others.
@chanchan5349
@chanchan5349 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I wish I’d known this 42 years ago. Mine has zero understanding of his behavior or how it affects mine. It took me over 35 years to understand I was dealing with a neglectful narcissist. I now think his father was the same, so he learned this behavior. He’s charming to EVERYONE outside the home & shutdown at home. I get nothing. He has no interest in me, maintaining our home, cars, anything. His interests are paramount (fishing, hunting, golf) so he buys gear, goes on vacations with his buds, thinks and studies those things when at home, leaving no room for anything else either in $$$ or brain space. I quit complaining years ago because no one believes the stories, even my closest friends think I over exaggerate. I’m using this space to get this pain off my chest-there are no answers. Thanks for being here & for listening.
@activist3145
@activist3145 Жыл бұрын
Same here! Constantly consuming and buying things. Things that make him happy by having the best gear on a trip or the most expensive crap for whatever hobby.
@CTHou13
@CTHou13 5 ай бұрын
I also live with a neglectful narcissist. It’s the most painful relationship I’ve ever been in being completely disregarded in all aspects of my needs and wants. And all he wants is a shiny new car, fancy clothes and a big screen television so he can impress people.
@clarecollins2547
@clarecollins2547 3 ай бұрын
😢
@Lemana28021989
@Lemana28021989 Жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Sure, it's learned "coping mechanisms" due to their survival mode and over time they won't be able to break out of it as it would shatter them as a being. Still, they know exactly what they do and then try to justify through gaslighting and lying.
@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807
@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@ellengrace4609
@ellengrace4609 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. And they justify it because they truly believe they are a superior being. I remember dating this guy and about the third time we were together I knew there was something about him that was going to cause me trouble, something I could feel in my very core but I couldn’t put my finger on it so I ignored my gut because I thought he was amazing. I didn’t even think about NPD at the time as I didn’t even know what it was (this was about 10 years ago) but I think I was unconsciously picking up on all those cues. My gut was right. That trip to hell was devastating and lasted about 2 years. It was definitely life changing and almost life ending. Now I have the concept and words to articulate what happened. My biggest take away is always listen to your gut, because many of us have an inherent ability to detect danger, even if our brains have not yet learned the schema to understand that danger.
@christinelamb1167
@christinelamb1167 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they know EXACTLY what they are doing! They love it, and they receive too many benefits from their behavior to ever want to stop. They don't care whatsoever at all about the hurt they inflict on others.
@MKCarol-ms7lg
@MKCarol-ms7lg Жыл бұрын
@@christinelamb1167 Internal peace is a priceless thing. A thing they will never fully experience. Too much turmoil in their brains and peace is fragile. Since they can't 'introspect' they will never heal the turmoil. I'd much rather be peaceful old me.
@jeanne5371
@jeanne5371 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@alphaomegaambassador4978
@alphaomegaambassador4978 Жыл бұрын
Narc Victim: "You're hurting me." Narc: "Oh, well." Class Dismissed.
@oceannomad4236
@oceannomad4236 Жыл бұрын
I'm the only person in her life that my wife bullies with meanness, anger and contempt. Overtly however, this only happens when we're alone. When we have company in the house she reverts to her happy and polite persona toward me, giving our guests the impression we have a great marriage. I can understand that her being nice to me in company is nothing more than wanting guests to see her in a positive way but her on/off treatment of me seems quite deliberate.
@ginafarley6190
@ginafarley6190 Жыл бұрын
It hurts even more, a kind of betrayal really. It’s just a facade, or what Dr. George Simon, author of “In Sheep’s Clothing,” calls impression management.
@christinelamb1167
@christinelamb1167 Жыл бұрын
This proves that narcs know EXACTLY what they are doing! If it was truly unconscious, they wouldn't know how to turn it on and off to avoid detection by outsiders. The fact that they want to keep their true selves hidden from those on the outside means that they know their behavior towards you is bad and wrong, but they do it intentionally, with full knowledge of the impact of their actions on you!
@grandmaatthefarm125
@grandmaatthefarm125 Жыл бұрын
I suffered the same treatment from my soon-to-be ex-husband. Can't wait until the divorce is final! I had to escape town and move several hours away just to feel safe from his manipulations.
@christinelamb1167
@christinelamb1167 Жыл бұрын
@@grandmaatthefarm125 I am happy for you that you have escaped! It is difficult to break free, and sad to admit that there is no other solution except to leave. But good for you for taking good care of yourself, and removing yourself from danger! I went no contact with my mother 3 years ago, after a lifetime of severe emotional abuse and torment from her (I'm 59 years old). It's not what I ever wanted, but she left me no choice. I am finally safe now, too.
@shebakali6
@shebakali6 Жыл бұрын
Please leave this woman! Especially if you have children. My mother put up with this Jekyll and Hyde behaviour and it damaged everyone. Narcs are fake and phony people and when their mask slips it is so ugly
@biondna7984
@biondna7984 Жыл бұрын
This so reflects what life with my first husband felt like. For YEARS, before I recognized the narcissism, I thought I had married someone who was just hopelessly immature. Who had to keep making the same mistakes, shitting in their own nest by losing jobs they valued, and alienating people they wanted to cultivate as friends. It DOES look a lot like plain old, pathetic immaturity.
@spaideman7850
@spaideman7850 Жыл бұрын
all these while i thought I'm the only person feels that narcissist = 3 years old brain that cannot mature, until i watch these videos recently that many agreed with me. these 'kids' love to 'win' in every argument, either thru lies, swear to God(despite they are the culprit), create stories from thin air, recruit stupid believers and supporters like going for President rally. Create commotion to get as many friends, relatives and even strangers to listen to their own family issues and belittle their victims. And the best part is, they did all these with the objective to force the victim to love and adore them, and be their 'yes man' good boy.. what??? zero logic. well, thats what they are.
@dm3144
@dm3144 Жыл бұрын
@blancotequila good luck to you and stay strong! If it’s any consolation to you, I got emancipated at 17. Best decision I’ve ever made. Good luck, my friend 🦋✌️
@dm3144
@dm3144 Жыл бұрын
@@spaideman7850 well said The narc I was dealing with, was all for going to petition and rallies ! What a trip, that’s the first I heard of that kind of behavior, from someone else🤯 It truly blows my mind! Thank you for your comment, stay strong and be free 🦋SURVIVOR 🦋
@MKCarol-ms7lg
@MKCarol-ms7lg Жыл бұрын
Expecting a 6 y. o. brain to function like an adult one is what causes so much stress and frustration.
@SendItForward
@SendItForward Жыл бұрын
​@@MKCarol-ms7lgThank you for stating "frustration and stress". I have always been even tempered and willing to let people have their own opinions. But when I am constantly poked and prodded just for having my own opinion or personal way of expressing myself, from a certain person, my "frustration and stress" rises just from the mere sight of them. It's as if my brain says "there's the boiling water go stick your hand in it!!" The frustration is REAL and it can lead to anger, especially when I feel I can NEVER get away from them.... anger or hopelessness.
@msmacmac1000
@msmacmac1000 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a revelation: I think the ones in my life that have been so toxic are the ones who HOLD GRUDGES. Anyone else out here in Team Healthy notice this as a common theme in toxic relationships?
@Polyphemus47
@Polyphemus47 Жыл бұрын
One in particular will bring up imagined wrongs many years later, to protect himself from recognizing anything happening in the present. There used to be an old saying that indicated willingness to 'move on' - "Let bygones be bygones." Nope.
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet Жыл бұрын
​@@Polyphemus47 it blows my mind how my mother will remember the most ridiculous things, including perceived wrongs.
@jacquelinefroehle5868
@jacquelinefroehle5868 Жыл бұрын
Exactly....they Abuse Authority....steal from you, destroy your rights, cheat, etc. Take any legal moral honest steps to make them stop and now they return hate. Do good loving caring things for them, and they return Evil for good. It's not possible to have a relationship with them, ever.
@Hatbox948
@Hatbox948 Жыл бұрын
Yes! My narc definitely does, and rehashes old incidents over and over again. Listening to these tirades is agony.
@michaelfox9750
@michaelfox9750 Жыл бұрын
Ha! The ex blamed me for (among other things) our adult daughter's romantic partner, whom she later married. They'd met in college, and (in the words of the ex) the only reason our daughter attended that school was my opposition to her transferring to another school. This particular grudge came up years later, when it was obvious the two young people were in a serious relationship. Crazy? Oh yeah. I won't live long enough be 'forgiven' for my past 'sins'.
@michaelfox9750
@michaelfox9750 Жыл бұрын
Who among us has not spoken or acted in some hurtful ways--out of anger, thoughlessness, or just sheer stupidity? The healthier person reflects on his/her errors, owns up to them, and attempts a repair. In my 22-year marriage, I never heard an apology. Either the ex was that one perfect person or . . . well, you know the rest.
@steffenworldcitizensurf5926
@steffenworldcitizensurf5926 Жыл бұрын
…yes, I know the rest too well.
@patriciafry8634
@patriciafry8634 Жыл бұрын
I think there is consciousness in the sense they know what they are doing is hurtful (“wrong”?), but they don’t care because they have no empathy and because it gives them something they want: supply, control, dominance, sense of superiority, revenge, pleasure. They may have no insight into how they got that way and can’t perceive a need to change, but I believe there is a level of consciousness there, often including intentional manipulation and cruelty.
@LisaPFrampton
@LisaPFrampton Жыл бұрын
Amen 100%!!
@lemostjoyousrenegade
@lemostjoyousrenegade Жыл бұрын
🎯❗️
@queen_pila
@queen_pila Жыл бұрын
I believe so too,becoz why do they chose to be mean to us but pleasant to other people
@lindaratzel7835
@lindaratzel7835 Жыл бұрын
I am glad to be away from my narcissistic husband by also feel so sad for him as this is a type of mental illness that affects so many people. I do feel narcissism is definitely on the rise in this world today. I'll stay alone thanks!
@sarahhunter8997
@sarahhunter8997 Жыл бұрын
One thing I've noticed about them all, especially the ones that aren't aware of their immature ways, is that they cannot deal with feeling shame. It's like as children they felt shamed and shunned and instead of processing that, they lash out. They cannot feel guilt, shame, etc. It doesn't mean they can't feel remorse. It doesn't mean they can't feel any empathy. It means that they feel shame and instantly blame the other person for how they feel. They must get rid of the person that makes them feel bad by any means. I dealt with a covert that really seemed unaware of his ability to accept processing of guilty feelings and shame. It had to be the other person who needed to go who 'made' him act that way. The relationship must be the wrong one, because he wouldn't just do that. Instead of working on themselves, they just drop the people around them. The inability to feel badly also drives their escapism addiction. They're typically always high/on games/phones etc.
@TheKak933
@TheKak933 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. It took me decades to realize my sister is a narcissist because she was able to sound so sensible. She can talk the talk but her behavior is all blaming others. It’s sad but I removed myself from any true closeness with her. It’s dangerous
@rockerdad2
@rockerdad2 Жыл бұрын
For those of us who truly get it, they are so damaging to our mental health and, it took decades to undertand or even know what this is. This should be taught in school and not sure why its not.
@texaspatty458
@texaspatty458 Жыл бұрын
I think by the time they realize how differently strange they are ( not all of them ever get it ) it's too late to change or even want to. That's far too much work for any narc . Let's face it , they are way too lazy for that kind of commitment . I know that having narc parents , that I normalized their narc behaviors just to survive that toxic environment . Years of work on myself has made every day just a bit clearer . Thank you Dr. Carter , I'm very happy for you to be a part of my journey , you are helping so many of us . 👏👏👏👏💪
@killadjango6995
@killadjango6995 Жыл бұрын
1000% agreed. 💯🎯
@anawatson8594
@anawatson8594 Жыл бұрын
I recently realized that my parents always used to tell us how hard they had to work, and give up this or that. However, when I look back now, they just seem lazy to me. I work much harder than they ever did.
@tranquility9325
@tranquility9325 Жыл бұрын
They also have significant brain damage.
@kathiejl1
@kathiejl1 Жыл бұрын
@@tranquility9325 I have to agree that it may have some effect. There is a study where they did MRIs on narcissists. Their frontal lobe is affected. My narc has ridden dirt bike since very young and had multiple crashes with a collection of dented helmets.
@kathiejl1
@kathiejl1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always believed that by age 35 we are all pretty set in our ways. Changing one’s makeup is hard unless extremely committed and willing. So my 57 yo narc is probably hopeless unless he received a spiritual awakening relieving him of the obsession compulsion to react with narcissistic tendencies. 😢 It breaks my heart to believe that but everything I listen to and read says they rarely change because their very dysfunction tells them there is nothing wrong with them.
@wishuponastar3179
@wishuponastar3179 Жыл бұрын
Yes because no matter how many times you politely tell someone to leave you alone, they can't help themselves and think they can keep trying again and again till you say yes to them. Some people intrude on your privacy by asking you many personal questions even though you tell them to leave you alone, they follow you and keep going. If only they can see themselves in action. They have no idea of their actions.
@justmyopinion526
@justmyopinion526 Жыл бұрын
Although I do agree , I met someone like this once and asked why the attitude, they said ,, they love the challenge and the energy they got from it. If it became negative they would just deal with it but some attention is better than non. Crazy mindset. They thrive on others not bringing the same energy back to them. best way to deal is an assertive no and closing the door either emotionally or real..
@olyooshka
@olyooshka Жыл бұрын
​@@justmyopinion526 True, I've known someone who admitted that they get a high from conflict and strife. They manufacture it making literally anyone an unwilling participant. Antagonistic personality disorder it is.. They do NOT understand what they look like to the public, they have no concept of empathy and are sure they are as indispensibly important to any stranger as they are to themselves. They don't get the "you suck" emotion caused by them coming from other people, they always think that they can only be admired or envied, so they keep bothering people to get that supply they imagine others have for them...
@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807
@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807 Жыл бұрын
I know, right? Narcs lack a sense of boundaries. It's crazy
@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807
@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807 Жыл бұрын
Well, narcs don't care how their intrusion affects others due to a lack of empathy.
@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807
@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807 Жыл бұрын
​ people like this have to be served with a restraining order
@MarleyLeMar
@MarleyLeMar Жыл бұрын
Please never underestimate the transformational power of prayer--to want, sincerely, whatever is in the best interest of everyone involved, and to accept the outcome and work with it. Both psychology and faith can live together in a heart that has grown large enough.
@spaideman7850
@spaideman7850 Жыл бұрын
Narc will not change even Jesus came down from heaven trying to change them
@bansheesioux5569
@bansheesioux5569 Жыл бұрын
JUN 01 World Narcissistic Abuse Day On this day, let us take heed of the warning signs that constitute narcissistic abuse
@thenomad9853
@thenomad9853 Жыл бұрын
My ex wife fulfilled all the qualities of the "covert" narcissist. Ive gone past hating her, many years ago. Even so - i always said i dont think her behaviour was *intentionally* aggressive, challenging, etc - my view was always that it was simply "learned behaviour" - she had such a narrow band of behaviours and outcomes that were "acceptable" to her - and moreover if thinga werent within that narrow band, she was in freefall, like an animal in frantic pain. I believe she learned that causing massive arguments where the reaction was disproportionately large to the topic at hand, the length of time she could keep these disagreements and negative/aggressive behaviour going, and the frequency with which she did this ..... Basically it got her the result she wanted, you were worn down over time, and walking on eggshells, any attempt to try and logically disseminate the arguments and tantrums led to gas lighting - it was a situation where every move you made was checkmate - and she had limitless stamina for these situations - my theory when i came to understand what made her tick, was over the years in relationships she had learned that exhibiting that behaviour made the person threatening to take her outside her confort zone, step back and stop doing so - in fact after years, you are effectively trained or conditioned (because you just dont want another argument, put down, scene, negativity ... Whatever) to operate within her boundaries - effectively it caused her such discomfort not to be in control in her narrow sphere of acceptability that she would exhibit extreme behaviours to maintain control and to avoid the situations she couldnt handle. It didnt make it any easier to deal with and even after i had worked this out life with her was utterly miserable, but i trued to let go of the hatred i felt towards her for being like that because to me it was like being angry at a shark or a lion for making a kill - effectively she was just following what she had learned to instinctively do, i didnt believe there was any real strategy to it, she had just figured out how to live within her boundaries and how to force everyone else to do that with her. Thats my take on conscious / unconscious narcissist behaviour anyway.
@JC-sh6im
@JC-sh6im 6 ай бұрын
Re "grow and adjust" - I know that one - they respond - "sounds great, let's grow and adjust YOU..."
@tombuddy100
@tombuddy100 Жыл бұрын
When other people get frustrated because of narcissist's immaturity, naricissist says: you see, how these people are inappropriate. Whatever happens, it is not narcissist's fault. That is is why it is hard to reason with a narcissist.
@killadjango6995
@killadjango6995 Жыл бұрын
its impossible, they mental illness blocks all reasoning. u gotta go no contact and let them self destruct. 💯💯🎯
@secondhorizon
@secondhorizon Жыл бұрын
Unconscious (perhaps) ~ but only like someone in a perpetual drunken stupor who thinks that they can still drive-safe.
@miss_whipps
@miss_whipps Жыл бұрын
Brilliant analogy! 🎯
@laurence.MusicAndSights
@laurence.MusicAndSights Жыл бұрын
I am French, occasionally listening to Dr Carter ( destroyed and ruined by a horrid vain narcissist) and bow to your brilliant words, the essence of unconscious Evil as it were 👿 wow so well expressed. Greetings from France 🇫🇷
@aaronkwolfe
@aaronkwolfe Жыл бұрын
“Mostly?” Even I f it is just a matter of degrees, I’m still curious. I could quote Sheriff Gilligan, though: “Ignorance of the the law is no excuse.”
@tatianamatrosova8463
@tatianamatrosova8463 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I couldn't see that. how did I let THIS into my life. HOW?
@daynapeterson9033
@daynapeterson9033 Жыл бұрын
My elderly covert narc mom has control issues with spouting out orders to everyone. Go do this, go do that! This includes any family members at her house visiting. She's done it for 80 yrs. Never a "could you please", just an order. Go light the pilot light, put that chair there, move that table here, sit that there, sit that here. Nobody is immuned. Not even guests.
@nancymurphy6483
@nancymurphy6483 Жыл бұрын
My exe’s parents had a terrible marriage. They fought a lot. His sister said it frightened her so much she would hide behind a couch, or go in a closet and cover her ears. I asked what her brother did. She said it was the strangest thing, because he would begin to hum and continue playing with his trucks like nothing was happening. There were times when he would tell me, “Quit screaming.” I would respond “Listen to my voice. I am not screaming. You grew up with screaming, so that’s what you’re hearing.” He’d respond, “That’s an insult.” He could never take a realistic view of his parents. They were perfect.
@cindyallen4831
@cindyallen4831 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. C. I was Brutally discarded out of a 25 year marriage (for new supply, of course). During those years, however, lots of shenanigans which are morally, socially wrong and not good for a marriage. Now, after the fact, I question why I stayed but now I'm educated on narcissism. I asked myself often whether he knew what he was doing or if it was just natural to him. He hid the shenanigans (secret phone, texts to other women, etc.) so he knew, on some level, he was doing wrong.
@salviaspuzzle
@salviaspuzzle Жыл бұрын
Very scary how true this is. I waiting 8 years to propose to my ex. I was waiting for her to "grow out" of her nonsense. I figured she's gotta grow up eventually. No, she got way worse. Thanks for your videos!
@nicholasyashin4802
@nicholasyashin4802 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they can not change. Move on
@warrenbradford2597
@warrenbradford2597 Жыл бұрын
That is what I thought my narcissistic mother and sister, especially, would do. They developmentally arrested as well. I am learning and creating to end my ensnarement with them as soon as possible. I am going to keep doing so to lead an extraordinary life of my own.
@spaideman7850
@spaideman7850 Жыл бұрын
try not to have any relationship with narc, seriously
@goldilocks3593
@goldilocks3593 Жыл бұрын
Similar situation. A ten year relationship. Because we were both young I figured he would grow up eventually. He didn’t. My advice would be: once you get past the age of 30, you are wasting your precious time on “potential”. What you see is pretty much what you get. If you are going to be in a partnership you want it to be with someone who is capable of real change and growth.
@tranquility9325
@tranquility9325 Жыл бұрын
They have brain damage
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 Жыл бұрын
The word 'Narcissism' is only just being recognised in its meaning. However, people DO realise they are behaving badly. Some will do it as a form of mischief Some seek revenge to others they have been hurt by. Some do it as a learned behavior. Some are plain cruel and sadistic. I prefer the the Team Healthy way of thinking and way of life. Releasing negative energies around me has helped me move more freely and given me room to grow in a way I never thought possible!
@roxymovie3938
@roxymovie3938 Жыл бұрын
Yes, people do recognize the bad behaviours. And for you in fact it does not matter if their behaviours are conscious or unconsious. A few days ago I read a quote, that I want to share with you, "You can not control others behaviours, thoughts, opinions, your circumstances, your enviroment etc. The only thing you can do, is to control your response to that. This will give you strength and freedom and peace." Have a wonderful day, Amanda 🤗
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 Жыл бұрын
@@roxymovie3938 Thanks Roxy for sharing that quote. Very much appreciated 🙏 All the very best of positive wishes 🌈🤗
@roxymovie3938
@roxymovie3938 Жыл бұрын
@@amandaliverpool3374 You are welcome, Amanda😊 And thanks for your wishes 🌈🤗
@tbunnyshy1
@tbunnyshy1 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 🎯 They know what they’re doing. Maybe they remember how they became who they are (harsh upbringing -maybe that portion is unconscious and the cruelty is on autopilot?). They CHOOSE to not do better. It’s lifelong revenge or something.
@amandaliverpool3374
@amandaliverpool3374 Жыл бұрын
@@tbunnyshy1 I agree with you on that!
@aunthat6685
@aunthat6685 Жыл бұрын
I think perhaps this was helpful in coming to a resolution to forgive my sister, which is my main goal. My sister and I are in our 70's, and I am the oldest. The truth is that I am autistic and have issues and behaviors that I simply cannot change. There are a few of our issues that are frightening similar although mine don't come from a place of meanness, hatefulness or an intent to hurt and control. Truthfully, although I have nothing to do with her anymore, I suspect that we are both at the same place in life, and that is "alone". I have tried the therapy, and the truth is that therapists really don't seem to be qualified to deal with autism, as they treat you as though your issues are that of a normal person and all that they have to do is change your thinking and you will behave differently. So what we have here are two sisters who have been incompatible from day one, and have been tremendously damaged by life. I will say that in my working through this and coming to the realization that I am nothing to her except to have been used and discarded, that I must finally put her in a place in my life of being nothing to me, and I am working on this in various ways. I do feel as though I have finally taken a step forward.
@lindabell2940
@lindabell2940 Жыл бұрын
Lord let this woman have peace, its not pretty being against a sister, but it is real, im sorry, that we watch this kind of madness, you say you didn't get all of the nonsense, i did , the big why question is ,lack of my mercy, i never, im sorry that stuff like this happens with adults, hec i didn't even want to look at my own sister, please some body in this community needs peace in there well being,
@ellengrace4609
@ellengrace4609 Жыл бұрын
Good for you! My sister is a narcissist, as was my mother. After my mom passed, my sister literally took her place and assumed her role, now even living with my dad. He was under my mom’s thumb for decades and so I get that this is familiar and comfortable to him. I have put so much distance between me and my toxic family so that now I am a casual outside observer. I don’t get involved but I haven’t made any formal declarations of being “out.” I found it wasn’t necessary as they consume each other’s lives with a constant whirlwind of drama, so much that they don’t even appear to notice I’ve escaped. 😂 Occasionally they contact me, but only when they need something,but I have managed to stay uninvolved for about 8 years so far and I plan to keep it that way. I’m glad you’ve found a way to prevent your sister from causing you grief. Sending all my good thoughts!! ❤
@Polyphemus47
@Polyphemus47 Жыл бұрын
@@lucyq7ollie I admire your self-awareness, and hope you don't have one shred of guilt about your decisions in shutting out the hurtful behaviors. Peace.
@ellengrace4609
@ellengrace4609 Жыл бұрын
@@lucyq7ollie I’m so sorry, Lucy! You sound like a kind and compassionate person. I think this may be the only “gift” of being a narcissist’s victim, strengthening our compassion, empathy, resilience… When we use those strengths with non-narcissists, it can be very powerful and greatly appreciated. That’s my way of looking for good in a very damaging situation. Be good to yourself! ❤️❤️❤️
@aunthat6685
@aunthat6685 Жыл бұрын
@@ellengrace4609 I didn't mention it, but my mom was a narcissist (I come from a family of narcissistic (hateful) women. It must be genetic.) My sister took over our family long before my mom died and worked for years to literally shut me out of the family. Finally, she did. Yes, my dad was under my mom's thumb also and this broke my heart because he was the one person that I loved. My greatest regret in life is that i never once stood up for myself, but maybe that is a good thing because I would have probably said or done things that i would have regretted later. There was a time when I would have liked to have walked away from my mother and never seen her again, but, because I am a Christian, I thought that his was the wrong thing to do. I spent my life trying to do things to make her happy, but with her, nothing was ever enough. I seem to be able to forgive her because 1) she is gone and 2) since her sisters were as hateful as she was it obviously goes back to something in her childhood. She did tremendous damage to me as a person and yet there were some things that she did that were good in that they allowed me to cope, whereas, with my sister, there is not one good thing that I can think or say about her. I always thought that my mother had a look of madness in her eyes, but with my sister, what I see is pure evil.
@lordfreerealestate8302
@lordfreerealestate8302 Жыл бұрын
It can be dangerous to underestimate the true intent of an abuser. Perhaps some of it is clueless, but more of it is conscious than people realize. They were careful to conceal their behaviour, look innocent, all while carefully planning their abuse. I've had people defend my abusive parents by saying "they didn't mean it", referring to child abuse as "mistakes, unintentional". As the victim who saw the abuser truly unmasked - it was not. And even if it was unconscious - regardless of intent, the dangers of abuse can be the same and so is the lifelong impact on the victim.
@TerriTemple
@TerriTemple Жыл бұрын
My sibling and I grew up in the same household and by a single parent and were both abused and neglected by our parent, I probably more. However, my sibling turned out to be a narcissist like our parent, while I am not. Because of this, I believe they are born with this inherited shortcoming or personality disorder and or choose to live the way they do.
@mandycote5662
@mandycote5662 Жыл бұрын
NO it’s being in denial of the behaviour- playing stupid even 🙄
@ireneharris4104
@ireneharris4104 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in an unhappy family environment. Got beaten, got no love or hugs. Yet I married had 3 kids n showed them so much love. Which I never had. Thankfully I didn't turn out like my siblings. 2 of them are narcissistic. Yet we all grew up together. I have no contact with them anymore, my choice. I'd had enough of their verbal abuse my whole life. Im 62. I could of been like them, narcissistic. But I'm not. Im an empath I'm proud of myself who I am.
@christinelaford8449
@christinelaford8449 Жыл бұрын
I find it quite interesting in thinking back; Just how hard I was always the one pouring out the thoughts of how I felt: whether was in a simple note, a multi page letter, my journals, etc. I was far from the healthy one...& surely not blameless, however, I question now those in my life, that failed to recognize my attempts to progress to any healthy type of relationship...when i was obviously trying to get to. But instead, I was always seen as the villain...& most others (eventually) saw themselves as the heroic victors in the end...& lacking all accountability for whatever went wrong. Who's really the toxic one in that???? I consciously reflect on my own part played in the consequences of my life...& those that can't; Well.... Thanks Dr. Carter. I always appreciate your videos. :)
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, Christine.
@mattjbirtell
@mattjbirtell Жыл бұрын
I’ve got so good at calling out a narcissists illogical/irrational thought processes that whenever my Dad bursts out in anger I throw it back at him. He totally dissociates and shuts down. He zones out, distracts himself and literally hears nothing you say. Then he wakes up once the retaliation has ended. It doesn’t even feel good because not only have you stooped to their energy level but they absorb none of it and you get nowhere, nothing changes…
@ElsieDee001
@ElsieDee001 Жыл бұрын
I was never good enough for him, no matter what I did. He would go into these high-pitched, whiny temper tantrums, complete with grimacing facial contortions and stopping around. He wanted me to be perfect. He sure wasn’t.
@ckvarnmass
@ckvarnmass Жыл бұрын
If it weren't for other people, I'd have no problems. It is best to be a loner.
@panfried7566
@panfried7566 Жыл бұрын
this explains a lot about how she behaves the way she has. mean, nasty, always blaming me for just about everything. The hope of change died 5 years ago after trying for 20 years. 12:00 - she is unable to fix what she's too ashamed to see or examine. - sadly, she'll take it to her grave before she admits any wrong-doing. thanks, Dr. Carter
@jeannedouglas9912
@jeannedouglas9912 Жыл бұрын
I gotta admit that I have tried for such a long time and fed their egos knowing they crave it and being correct on all issues only to be struck down. It's like that saying of oh what web of lies we conceive. Perhaps they are stuck in their lies and raw hatred. The best advice is.."Whatever"
@michelepascoe6068
@michelepascoe6068 Жыл бұрын
"Very low self-reflection equals very high accusation." "These individuals are unable to fix what they're too ashamed to examine. " Combined with their dishonesty and sadistic capacity, it is no wonder that one cannot resolve conflict or reason with them, and it only increases their irrational hatred if you try, however kindly.
@jeffmyers7062
@jeffmyers7062 Жыл бұрын
The narcissist has no culpability. Oh look the world did me wrong and I have zero culpability
@AnnaMishel
@AnnaMishel Жыл бұрын
IMHO, there at (at a minimum) 2 basic human species. 1) empaths (those having a conscience) 2) narcissists/psychopaths (those having no or impaired conscience) We’re animals after all. We would never expect all dog breeds to have the same innate characteristics. And We should not expect all humans to have the same innate characteristics. IT’S THAT SIMPLE, AND THAT COMPLEX!
@lindabell2940
@lindabell2940 Жыл бұрын
Well ,i mean to tell ya, be what, why, hec i have seen so much unnormal, i already hate my ugly ass, to many nuts, yea let me join the club, im feeding myself to the dogs, i cant take it back, i dont play im sorry, over and over, im off your stage nut, im on my own, just because someone is no good, im like what no good , shame on me, for being lost, your madness didn't do this, its my lazy out come
@poloparker0420
@poloparker0420 Жыл бұрын
Duh But not all breeds are likeable or accepted and tolerated. Some places even completely ban certain types of dogs due to their undesirable traits and inability to coexist in an acceptable manner. We should be able to expect more out of a human......please don't attempt to normalize their behavior.
@kathiejl1
@kathiejl1 Жыл бұрын
I am a dog trainer and I disagree with your statement about all dog breeds not having the same innate characteristics. They do in fact All have innate Canine Behaviors but diverge in having additional special attributes pertaining to each breed. But I do agree with we are all animals and can be dominant or submissive and have basic innate human behaviors but because of our advanced brain every single human interprets events in our lives differently which affects our emotional responses. And that’s where it gets complex.
@fred.k9875
@fred.k9875 Жыл бұрын
Essence,Dr.C always put emphasis on essence, our conscious is rooted in our essence, where there is no essence there is no foundation for conscious.
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism Жыл бұрын
You get it, Fred.
@moirabij734
@moirabij734 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Carter, it's so terribly sad to see how my children's father simply cannot access his childhood pain and the resulting behaviors that occur. But I know I didn't cause it, I cannot cure it and I can't control it. So I have to distance myself from him and block on a regular basis as the insults, attempts at control and manipulation become too much. Thank you for all your helpful work. I have learned so much from you.
@christanatwork
@christanatwork Жыл бұрын
Great explanation, Dr C. It's a question I asked a lot about my ex through the 26 years of marriage. Without even knowing the actual definition of narcissism beyond the mythological story, I had come to the same conclusions that she had conjured her own alternative reality of life and was determined to live by that in order to avoid painful self-examination and reflection. What she was gaslighting me with was part of the narrative she had chosen to believe in so much so she could actively avoid numerous clear and obvious truths. When you could corner her with rationale and reason (no, not recommended), you'd have a cornered animal on your hands. It's almost as if you were dealing with an aggressive, untamed animal whose survival instincts come before all else. So many years would not have been wasted if it weren't for this need to not ever be vulnerable and I really feel sorry for her too, but alas it is what it is.
@tranquility9325
@tranquility9325 Жыл бұрын
Don't ever feel sorry for someone who lies, cheats, steals, and manipulates you and others.
@Ivan-bf2jx
@Ivan-bf2jx Жыл бұрын
Great thoughts on the Origins of Narcissism👍🏻 Yes they are immature, stuck somewhere in childhood. As a defence mechanism they mastered managing impressions, they can be very charming and convincing- master manipulators and very accomplished liers 🎭 Fake.
@killadjango6995
@killadjango6995 Жыл бұрын
bingo!💯🎯
@harmonizedigital.
@harmonizedigital. Жыл бұрын
I don't like when they contact me after not speaking to me for years acting as if there were not decades of abuse. Its like they just don't get it.
@tonihendrix6652
@tonihendrix6652 Жыл бұрын
Dr Carter, Once again, thank you! You just shed a ton of light upon my poor mother. She is, in every aspect, the woman you described-grievously wounded from a child. My father was the same but is no longer living. I have always had huge empathy for them both. My problem is my inability to deal any longer with my elderly mother’s rages, accusations and scarring my name with my children and others. The stress level when with her has become painful. I have finally gone no contact but because of her agedness, and my continued love for her, it really is hard. Your wealth of wisdom is so appreciated! I need help!
@tonihendrix6652
@tonihendrix6652 Жыл бұрын
@Esther I am so sorry, Esther. I pray we will both be healed by the Lord whose love never fails.
@kristenpichler8024
@kristenpichler8024 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I ended my relationship with my narcissist friend six months ago, but have continued to wonder why he behaves as he does AND whether growing his self-awareness could prompt him to change. But I see now that the behaviors are just too deeply ingrained. My time and energy continues to be better spent elsewhere.
@KoolT
@KoolT Жыл бұрын
They rarely rarely change. Maturity stunted. Selfish and screamers.
@miss_whipps
@miss_whipps Жыл бұрын
The last sentence of your comment is beautifully empowering, and it rang like a bell in my head! Yes, yes, yes! 👏❤️
@roxymovie3938
@roxymovie3938 Жыл бұрын
How deliberate is a Narcissist's manner of life? - Narcissists are driven by unconscious forces. Their sense of logic is impacted by unfinished strain and tension. They are stuck in an "arrested development", which means they emotionally remain in a childish state, where no growth is possible. Why are Narcissist not able to grow? 1. Supression = consciously exercizing self restraint, holding in your emotions when it is not safe to show 2. Repression = powerful defense mechanism, which starts very early in life when painful, unacceptable, confusing experiences; driven out of conscious awareness; it is like an unconscious defensive shield 3. Arrested Development = Supressed & repressed; No growth emotionally or relationally; Remaining in a childish state Narcissists have learned to hide their emotions , which began on an early age when reasoning was shallow. Repression and arrested development started and today they can not address what is driving them. Physically they grow, but emotionally they are still stuck and remain as raw reactors. They have no intuitive thinking and can not ask themselves insightful questions. How do Narcissists show their childish behaviours? > childish anger > blame shifting > fear collaboration > stuck in a major victim's complex > yet no give & take > not knowing what love & trust is > magical thinking > too fragile to say, "I was wrong." > quality of life is based on externals only > unable to access their own humanity > wearing a psychological mask > very low self reflection equals > very high accusations > unable to fix > too ashamed to see/examine Conclusion: Mostly of the time Narcissists are like an 'automatic pilot', doing things unconsciously, not knowing what drives them. Dr Carter 👨‍🦳 and Gus 🐶, thank you for another lesson full of insight 🌞🌟🌝🌈
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Roxy!!
@roxymovie3938
@roxymovie3938 Жыл бұрын
@@SurvivingNarcissism You are welcome, Dr. Carter & Gus! 😊
@michelleburstrom2548
@michelleburstrom2548 Жыл бұрын
I have watched many of your video in the last year and I get something positive to work with in every one of them but this video spoke right to my heart and completed some understanding that we’re not fully developed for me. Thank you so much for the assistance you provide. 😊
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism Жыл бұрын
You're quite welcome, Michelle.
@deborahlea5669
@deborahlea5669 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining the Narc however the damage they do is deplorable for everybody around them.
@killadjango6995
@killadjango6995 Жыл бұрын
true💯💯🎯
@snowbear1877
@snowbear1877 Жыл бұрын
I can relate to a lot of this. Being emotionally needy and having a victim complex. I feel the world has done me wrong, by and large. I think it's because people take advantage of me because I am a bit soft, due to low self-esteem due to poor upbringing. And yes, I've been called emotionally needy, and this is true. But I am not a narcissist.
@GrantOakes
@GrantOakes Жыл бұрын
Thank you SOOOOOO MUCH for this insight into the narcissist background. It has given me a lot more compassion for what the people I've been dealing with have evidently gone through and why they are acting that way. I have pity on them now.
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!!
@tranquility9325
@tranquility9325 Жыл бұрын
I don't pity monsters.
@slightlysarcastic3098
@slightlysarcastic3098 Жыл бұрын
This video came right on time after having a crazy making day with an emotionally immature parent. Two separate phone conversations and all I wanted to do was go home and sleep. That person is in contol mode right now during a family matter after being nonchalant for weeks.
@alpersungur6979
@alpersungur6979 Жыл бұрын
This is what I needed to know. Unconscious or not, I have my boundaries, they can be baffled and presumably ask better questions to grow out of their inmaturity, or not. It just does not feel good with these people, that is the acid test. But my mind nerded to have this question answered for more of my own resolve. Thank you Dr.
@CaptainPhilosophical
@CaptainPhilosophical Жыл бұрын
When I repeat my truth and restate my boundaries multiple times a day and Narcissa continue to insert her narrative about how I think, feel, what motivates me, what I should be ashamed of, how I am inadequate, I have several conclusion options: 1. You hear me, understand, but choose to do it anyway. 2. You hear me, understand, but have unconscious motives driving you to communicate to your loved ones in this manner. Unresolved childhood rearing. 3. You hear me don't understand.
@tommytwotoes7636
@tommytwotoes7636 Жыл бұрын
"Shut down mode"... Yes! I was just told by my ex that her defense mechanism for dealing with stressful situations is to not deal with it at all.
@elainewilliams4359
@elainewilliams4359 Жыл бұрын
This is very, very sad. It is very, very sad to me that the person I have loved all these years is so deeply damaged that he is not safe for relationships. I have had to remove myself from the relationship because the damage to him from his early life and young adulthood runs so deep that he turns on me, the one who truly loves and sees him. He cannot trust and he cannot receive the love that I have extended unconditionally for all these years. This is the saddest thing that could possibly happen to a person, and I wish he would get help-- but he refuses. It's over my head. I can only have compassion from a distance from now on, and pray that one day, he'll pursue and accept help. Thank you so much for this video, Dr. Carter.
@trying2survive602
@trying2survive602 Жыл бұрын
Dr. C, thank you so much!! It is because of your videos and the videos of others like you that I was able to contact a lawyer and I served him separation papers a few weeks ago!!❤
@alexandraalmanzar570
@alexandraalmanzar570 Жыл бұрын
I tried to have a conversation with my narcissist about the things that bothered me and that I did not understand and every single time she said that I was at fault. Everything was pointless.
@elainesmith5313
@elainesmith5313 Жыл бұрын
As I look back at my narcissist husband life, it is pittyable to a point. But the abuse I withstood I know now that he did know it was wrong. His death bed confession to our Oldest Son proved it. But to put that quilt on your son because you are truly a Coward was the true tale tale sign that he was truly narcissist and did not care about anyone. Hurtful until the very end leaving a trail of total disaster in the lives of us who lived with him. We don't mention him anymore and he is not missed. Thank you God ! And thank you Dr. C. Still healing and moving forward in N.C. And thank you Team Healthy!🐾🐾🐾🐾
@phild8192
@phild8192 Жыл бұрын
In my experience many people know they are behaving in a way .. they just don’t know that way is wrong and damaging. The world gives them out “out” with language. For example, they’re persuasive, not manipulative or controlling. They kind of know .. but I don’t always think they know how bad it really is, because it’s all they know.
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism Жыл бұрын
You make sense.
@oof2073
@oof2073 Жыл бұрын
i'm here because i want to figure out if i'm a narcissist/covert narcissist or have traits of narcissism. some things i read or hear apply to me, others not at all. i hope all of you who suffered from narcissists find healing.
@noidreculse8906
@noidreculse8906 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are excellent and explain clearly the narcissists behavior. Unfortunately two things: There’s no hope of reasoning, and for me, I seem too attract these types of people. It’s sad, because the problem is them, and they can’t see it and you won’t be able to explain it. Just run at the first sign, your boundaries won’t be respected, EVER
@angeleye4253
@angeleye4253 Жыл бұрын
The problem might be them but it does become u r problem if u keep attracting them. Remember they sniff out good, kind, loyal, forgiving ppl. U become a human magnet for them.
@noidreculse8906
@noidreculse8906 Жыл бұрын
@@angeleye4253 I know and it’s a battle. My empathy is my weakness and offering second chances is my downfall. Thanks for your reply.
@SR-bw3sc
@SR-bw3sc Жыл бұрын
Truly appreciate your professional advice here; and also appreciate that in just a short amount of time, 14 min (give or take) you provide much guidance & support. With admiration & deep gratitude, 🙏❤️
@SendItForward
@SendItForward Жыл бұрын
I have concluded that I must embrace my own reality that I have to go my own way. I have done the reasoning, rationalizing, sacrificing, guilt and depression long enough. I'm tired of waiting for this person to "get it" cuz he is not and it is plainly evident he cannot "get it" from me. I am tired of living in a defeated mindset and I am tired of living as if one of my three blades is off balance. I take full responsibility for my feelings and actions but that means I have to know myself. If coming to know who I am and who I want to be means separating from certain people who interfere or impose their own ideals onto me as if they are actually mine, then I will separate myself. Even more so when that imposing person either cannot or will not explain their own motives driving their actions. Offering no logic or proved debate/example.... just a "do it" mentality. When I need advice I have trusted sources, proven; but even then the final choice is still MINE to make and own even when I cannot explain it to a person who is in an adult body but operates with a child's mindset. I've always prayed "God give me understanding". I believe I have it, now I pray "God, help me to accept the things I cannot change and wisdom to know the difference." I appreciate this channel and all the folks who bare their heart and share their struggles and efforts to live their own purpose. God bless you all.
@user-up5oz2cq6x
@user-up5oz2cq6x Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Carter. I signed up for all your 3 online classes... but havent complete them, but will surely do so. Thank you very much for what you are doing here weekly. Really appreciate your work here. Take good care and blessed weekend to you and your loved ones. I am from Malaysia.
@emmbee1551
@emmbee1551 Жыл бұрын
This was SUCH a good video and was super helpful for me. While watching, I was literally (and strongly) agreeing with each point. Dr. Carter is extremely insightful and his information is spot on! Thank you for your insights, doc. They are very beneficial. I also LOVE the fact that you always find a way to mention/remind how we can be improving ourselves along the way. 💛
@CaptainPhilosophical
@CaptainPhilosophical Жыл бұрын
Using inspiration from this video I texted the following to my partner, "We have some adjustments that need to be made. I know that there are times I respond poorly and I frustrate you and myself. Let's go inside ourselves and take a hard look and try to fix some poor conflict strategies we posess. I look forward to the growth that will result. When can we talk about the areas we have identified in ourselves and hopefully make improvements?" I expect zero response.
@Survivin2Thrivin
@Survivin2Thrivin Жыл бұрын
💯 Dr C! Also, for my situation, this is great timing for you to post this today. I'd come to the conclusion that the narcissist I must deal with most frequently isn't in charge of herself. She self-sabotages her relationships but I've watched her face after she does it and realized she's out of control. However, a narc is a narc & I must self-protect so I can't allow myself to be her victim. My head's held high & my boundaries around her are high too. If she ever decides she needs to change that's good for her. Hope she gets help from a qualified mh professional, it may help her as she lives out her twilight years. I still hope to be long gone from her presence beforehand though.
@robbrewer2036
@robbrewer2036 Жыл бұрын
Make shore your long gone ,more to life than that crap you did not cause.
@and1varsity23
@and1varsity23 Жыл бұрын
Dr. C, Can you talk to the matter of a female covert narcissists who is aware her mother is one… knows all the psych terms and uses them, but is unaware of her behavior?
@MKCarol-ms7lg
@MKCarol-ms7lg Жыл бұрын
WOW! This really clarified some things for me. My mother was kidnapped at age 6 and was quite traumatized by it; however when she was returned home 2 years later the family treated it as a non-issue, just a part of history. She did have one moment of contact with the original feeling when at age 55 at her father's deathbed she 'met' the man who took her. I learned the real trauma of the experience through her reaction to him. Sadly, her trauma became our family's curse.
@masquarra
@masquarra Жыл бұрын
11:08 Dr C I did, quite foolishly I might add, and the narcissist verbally leveled me. I regretted being so energetic and hopeful only to see the anger and accusations aimed at me. I quickly learned my lessons
@sonia-lu2rn
@sonia-lu2rn Жыл бұрын
I’ve listened and read couture hours about narcissism in order to come to some sort of understanding of the behaviour of my parents. This succinct discussion about suppression, repression and arrested development was very helpful and seemed to put the pieces all together. Thank you.
@sonia-lu2rn
@sonia-lu2rn Жыл бұрын
‘Countless’ not couture. Lol
@Darren-yu6hf
@Darren-yu6hf Жыл бұрын
My narcissis went up and died, now I'm left holding the bag from a life time of being on the end of it. Signed Perplexed
@josiah5776
@josiah5776 Жыл бұрын
It is mind boggling. I know at least a dozen senior citizens with arrested development. My mother was that way until she died at 94. The most recent one I cut out of my life was my 67-year-old former father-in-law, who I wanted to keep in my child's life, but it was just too toxic. What you just covered makes it clear how a supposedly wise "elder" can suddenly switch to being an unreasonable brat ... when they otherwise seem to function as an adult. Why is it that some people with horrible back stories of abuse do NOT become like their narcissistic or abusive parents? Apparently there is some element of choice involved. I know more than one person who had a horrible childhood and was dealt many blows in life, but they learned an grew from it. Why don't narcs do the same?
@tranquility9325
@tranquility9325 Жыл бұрын
Experts believe that narcissism has a genetic component, in addition they have brain damage.
@gwendolynwehage6336
@gwendolynwehage6336 11 ай бұрын
Our daughter since a very early age preferred her father, my husband, over me. To this day she is in her forties she gives her father lots of attention, takes his advice and listens to me but doesn't want to pay attention to my wisdom. I have thought over the years it was because when my husband was younger he negated me in front of the children when I would attempt to make some rules or teach them something. He was raised in a family where there were no boundaries and very little training about life so he thought I was being mean by expecting boundaries and training the children. So, our daughter married a man raised the same way my husband was raised and they both dislike me as though I have nothing good to offer. I have given up and keep my distance unless I have to see them, then I still keep my distance while they are in the same room. Even their children, the grandchildren have been taught something is wrong with Granny, so they ignore me too while speaking to Grandpa. Thank the Lord I no longer feel hurt over it, I am just thankful when they leave from their once-a-year visit to our home. Our daughter and her husband snap at me when I disagree or express an opinion no matter what it is. I always look forward to their leaving when they come. We have a joyful and happy life when they are not around. My husband, our daughter, and our son-in-law refuse to discuss anything, they speak but don't listen.
@balto8111
@balto8111 Жыл бұрын
Been asking myself this question for quite some time, thank you for raising it.
@sanjmalik6282
@sanjmalik6282 Жыл бұрын
Dr Carter could you please do a video on bipolar and malignant narcissism and could a person be both.
@Omneyvdwatering
@Omneyvdwatering Жыл бұрын
My narc mother admitted to me one time that when she would be frustrated she would be very mean on purpose.
@CTHou13
@CTHou13 5 ай бұрын
It may be primarily unconscious, but the unfathomable part is that once you pointed out to them, it remains unconscious. I’ve never seen anything like it. No introspective, no willingness to change, no correction to behaviors or actions that are hurtful or detrimental to the relationships. They just double down and continue down the destructive selfish path path. This makes it hard to believe it’s actually unintentional.
@bereal6590
@bereal6590 Жыл бұрын
Raw reactors yes,yes,yes BUT it's always in their favour an how they feel. They refuse to think about where their behaviours come from. No accountability for any of the pain they dish out but do something good for you and they'll want accolades and often it's something you didn't want or ask for! Galling simply galling. Their self back patting whilst putting you down is incredible. Never do they see your good points or good deeds. Crazy accusations whilst they continue to double down on how good they are
@beckyengland7164
@beckyengland7164 Жыл бұрын
Bingo, sir. This resonates off the charts with my experiences with this person in my life.
@theyellowshoe
@theyellowshoe Жыл бұрын
I am so glad i "found" you Dr.C! You AND Team Healthy are helping me. Ive been looking at myself to be a better person. Thank you
@SurvivingNarcissism
@SurvivingNarcissism Жыл бұрын
So pleased, Tammy!
@thehappysheep2023
@thehappysheep2023 Жыл бұрын
My husband suffered from SchizoAffective Disorder w features (he passed on in 2021) And oh Lord!, the features. His psych said his personality was splintered. ie. 3 different personalities at least, maybe more Ever try to cook for 3 different people and you never know which one was going to sit down and eat? One time he said something truly hurtful to me and I called him on it. I caught him w a snicker on his face about it. I told him that it seemed he actually enjoyed hurting me. I got the silent treatment in response. Later, he ended up in-hospital for his MI, a doc asked him, Do you ever feel compelled to do things that you know are wrong but do them anyway. And he answered yes. Well, that explained a lot for me. Also, when he would go on a full out manic tirade, he would have no memory of it the next day. Which his psych confirmed can occur. Only my husband and the Lord knows if that was all or partly true or not.
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